| 00:03.44 | qermit | should any led ligtning? |
| 00:04.03 | pidpawel | yes |
| 00:04.18 | pidpawel | red power led and sometimes ever green led2/1 |
| 00:06.21 | qermit | ok, second computer gives me correct power |
| 00:07.55 | TheSeven | so that's the FEL: Bus 001 Device 018: ID 1f3a:efe8 |
| 00:08.13 | pidpawel | :D |
| 00:08.49 | pidpawel | I'm curious if anyone have a proper software to communicate in this mode |
| 00:09.46 | TheSeven | do you know if it's USB DFU? |
| 00:11.12 | pidpawel | nope. i have an exam today and im trying to learn while cb lays in front of me and distracts me :> |
| 00:14.03 | qermit | i want to install synergy to have shared mouse |
| 00:14.04 | TheSeven | if someone gets me a rom dump (yes I'm lazy) I might even have a look how that FEL interface works :) |
| 00:17.09 | pidpawel | rom dump? |
| 00:17.30 | pidpawel | look at brom address |
| 00:17.33 | TheSeven | well a readout of that 0xffff0000-0xffff7fff physical memory region |
| 00:17.43 | pidpawel | its 0xFFFF0000 |
| 00:17.48 | pidpawel | oh. ;) |
| 00:23.33 | qermit | oh oh my cubieboard works |
| 00:26.27 | mashku | drivers/ata/sw_ahci_platform.c:42:29: fatal error: plat/sys_config.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:26.34 | mashku | cant compile the kernel |
| 00:26.34 | mashku | :( |
| 00:40.53 | dongs | hmm |
| 00:40.59 | dongs | there's no additional usart on any of the headers on cubie? |
| 00:41.43 | dongs | oh, SPI pins are USART6 |
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| 00:43.32 | mashku | drivers/ata/sw_ahci_platform.c:42:29: fatal error: plat/sys_config.h: No such file or directory |
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| 04:29.32 | dongs | hokay |
| 04:29.41 | dongs | so i suppose its time to set this up |
| 04:30.30 | dongs | its too bad i cant hookup ntfs-formatted external hdd to this. |
| 04:40.29 | lawrence | apt-get install ntfs-fuse or similar? |
| 04:44.53 | dongs | haha, ntfs write support |
| 04:45.31 | dongs | do you know what colors on hte |
| 04:45.35 | dongs | ah screw it not gonna use pl2302 calbe |
| 04:49.27 | lawrence | white ->tx, green -> rx, gnd - gnd |
| 04:50.35 | lawrence | i prefer ftdi, but pl2303 is (barely) acceptable |
| 04:51.56 | dongs | does silk say what I should connect or is that the signal name |
| 04:52.04 | dongs | i.e. should i swap tx/rx |
| 04:52.20 | lawrence | white -> tx |
| 04:52.23 | lawrence | green -> rx |
| 04:52.29 | lawrence | as labelled on silkscreen |
| 04:52.47 | dongs | i know, im not gonna use tha cable, dont wanna install pl drivers, havent had much luck with them b efore |
| 04:53.09 | lawrence | linux has them built in |
| 04:53.25 | dongs | yeah, i prefer working ones. |
| 04:54.07 | lawrence | its the CH302 thats the painful one |
| 04:54.18 | lawrence | although honestly, i use a max232 + serial |
| 04:54.28 | lawrence | as i iz old skool e'se |
| 04:54.30 | lawrence | ;) |
| 04:55.02 | dongs | is there a console on that port |
| 04:55.04 | dongs | or just uboot |
| 04:55.15 | lawrence | depends your kernel config |
| 04:55.22 | dongs | what came with it |
| 04:55.32 | lawrence | console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 is what i use |
| 04:55.37 | lawrence | then i get both |
| 04:55.42 | dongs | looks like just rootshell |
| 04:55.52 | dongs | without login |
| 04:57.23 | lawrence | my kernel boot line looks a little like this - |
| 04:57.27 | lawrence | setenv bootargs console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 noinitrd init=/init root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait panic=10 ${extra} |
| 04:57.37 | lawrence | i add / remove the EDID bits if i need |
| 04:57.49 | lawrence | as i'm still futzing around with fb bits and bobs, and there are bugs |
| 04:58.02 | lawrence | i do have mine doing semi good things now though ;) |
| 05:02.53 | lawrence | eg add in kernel line display.screen0_output_mode=EDID:1280x720p60 |
| 05:03.06 | dongs | dont think im gonna need dispaly on this anytime soon |
| 05:04.24 | dongs | so which "distro" should be on this that I can work on the closest-to-official-a10 kernel w/o hf on? |
| 05:04.32 | dongs | so something with 3.0.8 or wahtever |
| 05:06.22 | dongs | .. imma gonna need a display to do this berryboot shit isnt it. |
| 05:06.22 | dongs | sigh |
| 05:09.10 | dongs | sad panda |
| 05:09.13 | dongs | AND keyboard?! |
| 05:10.53 | dongs | [ 1379.647159] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 |
| 05:10.53 | dongs | [ 1379.650583] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 |
| 05:10.54 | dongs | whats this shit |
| 05:13.00 | lawrence | 3.0.57 or 3.4.whatever off linux-sunxi is what i would use |
| 05:13.12 | lawrence | means your SD card haz issuz? |
| 05:13.20 | dongs | no it doesnt |
| 05:13.33 | dongs | http://linux-sunxi.org/File:Berryboot_installation_step2.png |
| 05:13.45 | lawrence | berryboot is crap, wouldn't touch it |
| 05:13.48 | dongs | ? why woudl it want to install on itself |
| 05:13.50 | dongs | well then what |
| 05:13.55 | lawrence | is ok for beginners |
| 05:13.57 | dongs | i need a normal system w/o display on this shit so i can use it |
| 05:14.06 | lawrence | but make your own FS is the better way |
| 05:14.17 | rm | http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images |
| 05:14.21 | lawrence | as you'll need to ditz around with fex settings and whatnot |
| 05:14.38 | rm | no idea about >something with 3.0.8 |
| 05:14.38 | dongs | http://jas-hacks.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/hackberry-a10-debian-whezzy-headless.html < no HF there, right? |
| 05:14.44 | dongs | (if so good) |
| 05:15.07 | rm | ^ ...I've created using this armhf rootfs |
| 05:15.30 | dongs | Hackberry Debian Wheezy (Headless) image (discussion) |
| 05:15.30 | dongs | Mele headless: Debian wheezy (aka testing) armhf with nand install |
| 05:15.31 | dongs | Minimal Debian Wheezy "Server" image by rm |
| 05:15.37 | dongs | the second one specifically mentions hf. |
| 05:15.58 | rm | mine is too, so it seems all are armhf |
| 05:16.03 | dongs | shitty. |
| 05:16.50 | dongs | well uh |
| 05:16.55 | lawrence | yes, terrible terrible idea to use features present in our cpu to speed stuff up. |
| 05:16.57 | dongs | also none of these seem to be for cubieboard |
| 05:17.16 | dongs | lawrence: ya well, tell that to allwinner. |
| 05:17.30 | lawrence | kernels are the only things that are board specific (that and architecture) |
| 05:17.54 | lawrence | the rest is pretty agnostic as long as on same architecture |
| 05:17.55 | rm | I'd say not even kernels, at most a script.bin+uboot |
| 05:18.18 | lawrence | kernels are board specific really, as you need to init ram etc and thats quite board specific imho |
| 05:18.28 | lawrence | plus tell it where in ram to go etc |
| 05:18.32 | dongs | so uh |
| 05:18.40 | rm | no, it's generic across all A10 |
| 05:18.42 | dongs | where is a working/usable bootable image FOR cubieboard. |
| 05:18.46 | lawrence | hmm, maybe i should say chipset specific as otherwise rm is going to be whiny |
| 05:18.52 | rm | the specific parameters (DRAM frequency) is in script.bin |
| 05:18.55 | rm | people run my image on Cubieboard |
| 05:19.01 | dongs | which is what |
| 05:19.02 | rm | and I made it for the MK802 |
| 05:19.09 | lawrence | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.10 | rm | and it works on Mele too, etc etc |
| 05:19.21 | lawrence | yes yes, bla bla |
| 05:19.36 | rm | some MK802 have the power chip, some don't |
| 05:19.40 | lawrence | chipset specific, with tweaks for hardware present / not present |
| 05:19.48 | lawrence | re kernel |
| 05:19.55 | rm | with chipset being A10 |
| 05:19.56 | rm | sure |
| 05:20.03 | dongs | rm: which is "your" image |
| 05:20.08 | rm | <dongs> Minimal Debian Wheezy "Server" image by rm |
| 05:20.13 | dongs | k |
| 05:22.53 | dongs | why is all this stuff old |
| 05:23.28 | dongs | well, if http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/FirstSteps is what i should read.. |
| 05:23.42 | dongs | then its all confusing |
| 05:23.49 | lawrence | latest kernels are on github |
| 05:24.00 | lawrence | the "official" one you got with the bsp is ancient by now |
| 05:24.07 | lawrence | so the linux-sunxi one is a better choice |
| 05:24.15 | lawrence | as the drivers are in a better state re hardware |
| 05:24.19 | lawrence | and its newer linux versions |
| 05:24.20 | dongs | thats irrelevant, my driver will be running on the "ancient" one |
| 05:24.47 | lawrence | are you going to make .ko modules for 2.6 then? |
| 05:25.03 | dongs | 3.0.wahtever, i lost track when tehy renamed to 3.x crap |
| 05:26.48 | dongs | for people who just want to get shit done, linux sure adds an extra thick layer of bullshit |
| 05:27.06 | dongs | ever tried maintaining kernel drivers for a device? |
| 05:27.13 | dongs | they change APIs with every fucking minor kernel release |
| 05:27.35 | grog | that's why i stick with freebsd |
| 05:27.35 | dongs | .. yet I can take WDM drivers I wrote for windows 2000 in.. 2000, and still use them with windows 8 32bit in 2013. |
| 05:27.59 | dongs | im not even talking recompiling, use same BINARY driver. |
| 05:28.13 | dongs | good luck running anything binary from 2000 in 2013 on linux. |
| 05:30.21 | BigWhoop | 7-10 hours later .... :) |
| 05:31.08 | dongs | what happens then? it stops sucking? |
| 05:31.43 | dongs | or is that how many times you have to recompile your kernel to enable a.out support |
| 05:33.00 | BigWhoop | its the time a wait for tom :) |
| 05:34.58 | dongs | so where is docs about this "script.bin" etc stuff |
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| 06:00.26 | MrCurious | dongs: i bet the trijans, viruses and worms compiled back in 2000 still run on it too :) |
| 06:02.26 | dongs | well, the retarded argument, of course |
| 06:02.32 | dongs | noone writes viruses for a platform noone uses |
| 06:02.34 | dongs | its pretty obvious |
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| 06:15.11 | lawrence | dongs - fex crane docs in bsp |
| 06:15.17 | lawrence | thats the script.bin bits |
| 06:15.30 | lawrence | can be named anything you want as long as you tell the uboot about the name |
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| 08:15.27 | suhanc | bye |
| 08:37.42 | dongs | lawrence: does that basically just play back register writes to configure gpio/pll/whatever? |
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| 08:38.08 | lawrence | the .bin is parsed by the kernel modules to do bits on init |
| 08:38.19 | lawrence | plus the uboot also does stuff too. |
| 08:38.22 | dongs | wich modules? |
| 08:38.26 | lawrence | you have the source, can look |
| 08:38.33 | dongs | k |
| 08:38.35 | lawrence | the sunxi-* ones |
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| 09:00.49 | mateusz_ | Hi |
| 09:00.53 | mateusz_ | where I can get cubieboard_defconfig ? |
| 09:01.14 | mateusz_ | for linux-sunxi |
| 09:01.39 | BigWhoop | still no tom here? |
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| 09:06.53 | lawrence | @mateusz_ make ARCH=arm sun4i_defconfig |
| 09:06.55 | lawrence | or ./configure --cubieboard |
| 09:07.00 | lawrence | in the kernel directory |
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| 09:18.58 | mateusz_ | lawrence, so thanks |
| 09:19.04 | mnemoc | https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2013/jan/china-github-and-man-middle :( |
| 09:27.02 | lawrence | site doesn't even open |
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| 09:45.46 | mnemoc | lovely |
| 09:47.05 | mateusz_ | lawrence, can you give me the link you gave me yesterday where you describe how you compile kernel for cubieboard witht his for.. loop for making links to crosscompiler ? |
| 09:47.19 | mateusz_ | thanks |
| 09:47.36 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux isn't enough? |
| 09:47.53 | lawrence | www.cubieforums.com |
| 09:47.54 | lawrence | in the tips and tricks - building a kernel |
| 09:48.24 | mnemoc | understands forums for discussions, but not for tutorials |
| 09:49.44 | lawrence | wiki you can't ask questions |
| 09:50.06 | lawrence | and some people prefer forums |
| 09:50.17 | lawrence | more community is better |
| 09:50.25 | lawrence | we want the cubie to be popular don't we? |
| 09:50.37 | mnemoc | sure |
| 09:50.50 | lawrence | so that i don't have to delve into fixing drivers and bugs, and other people can do that, and i just leech off their work^H^H^H^H appreciate that. |
| 09:50.56 | lawrence | :) |
| 09:51.07 | mnemoc | but having more partial/incomplete/outdated sources of information only reduce quality |
| 09:52.00 | mnemoc | discussion and questions on forum or ml is fine, as long as there is a single central repository of complete and up to date info |
| 09:52.54 | jelly | <lawrence> more community is better # ubuntu speaks against that theory |
| 09:54.15 | jelly | their forums and bugs reports are full of half-assed advice; best to keep a single referential source for doing things if possible |
| 09:54.29 | BigWhoop | i dont think so. The Ubuntu community makes it better then all other. |
| 09:54.32 | rm | because none of the actual knowledgeable people "prefer forums" ^^ |
| 09:54.48 | rm | so indeed ubuntu forums are filled by newbie users only |
| 09:54.49 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 09:55.16 | rm | sometimes when I google about some problem, I find a result from ubuntuforums |
| 09:55.30 | rm | and invariably it's either a question with zero replies, or with useless replies |
| 09:55.32 | jelly | I've blacklisted ubuntuforums.org from my google results |
| 09:55.49 | lawrence | i'm better at building communities |
| 09:57.05 | jelly | you can still have forums, but it's probably better to reply with links to the wiki and keep it updated in one place |
| 09:57.09 | mnemoc | joining people is good, absolutely. splitting knowledge is bad |
| 09:57.26 | lawrence | the forum links to the wiki |
| 09:57.33 | lawrence | i deliberately didn't try to step on toes |
| 09:57.38 | lawrence | i'm just trying to help |
| 09:57.53 | lawrence | i asked tom/hipboi, he said ok too |
| 09:58.02 | mnemoc | but you have tutorials there which people will follow to the inch |
| 09:58.05 | jelly | (I mean, for specific issues) |
| 09:58.13 | lawrence | sure, but they can ask away |
| 09:58.14 | mnemoc | tutorials that can't be improved |
| 09:58.24 | lawrence | for me its better, as i can actually access it |
| 09:58.25 | mnemoc | unless you get the feedback |
| 09:58.29 | mnemoc | you |
| 09:58.32 | mnemoc | one individual |
| 09:58.34 | lawrence | i can't get at the google groups unless i do email |
| 09:58.38 | lawrence | nor can others in china |
| 09:58.48 | mnemoc | i'm not talking about the cubieboard ml |
| 09:58.52 | mnemoc | i'm talking about the wiki |
| 09:59.08 | lawrence | wiki is a straight link to the linux-sunxi one |
| 09:59.24 | lawrence | the linux-sunxi one is trying to be all encompasing though |
| 09:59.30 | lawrence | cubieforums.com is for cubie |
| 10:00.05 | mnemoc | http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php?topic=20.0 <--- I'm talking about these things |
| 10:00.19 | mnemoc | incorrect, outdated and misleading |
| 10:00.35 | mnemoc | and can only be fixed by you |
| 10:00.51 | lawrence | can be fixed by anyone commenting on the thread |
| 10:00.53 | mnemoc | instead of improving/adding tutorials to an open place |
| 10:01.30 | mnemoc | do you have stats of how many people reads your post compared to the people that actually knows that something is inaccurate? |
| 10:01.58 | lawrence | do you have those stats for the wiki? |
| 10:02.05 | lawrence | apples for apples... |
| 10:02.32 | dongs | lol hi guys lets argue about stuff |
| 10:02.32 | mnemoc | at least on the wiki everyone can fix/update/improve content |
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| 10:02.57 | dongs | im gonna be building a new kernel soon |
| 10:02.58 | lawrence | there was need for a forum |
| 10:03.00 | dongs | where should I start? |
| 10:03.03 | lawrence | so i added one |
| 10:03.07 | lawrence | thats pretty much it |
| 10:03.28 | lawrence | if you want to do something bigger / better / whatever, no-one stopping you |
| 10:04.05 | mnemoc | gives up |
| 10:05.06 | jelly | lawrence: let's put it this way -- why not move howtos to wiki, so anyone can keep them updated instead of just the article owner |
| 10:05.06 | dongs | mnemoc: halp me out. wiki/forum page for where2start with kernel. |
| 10:05.27 | lawrence | feel free |
| 10:05.49 | jelly | fairy nuff |
| 10:05.59 | lawrence | i have wiki issues from china |
| 10:06.10 | lawrence | if i do wiki stuff my connection gets chopped |
| 10:06.16 | lawrence | so go ahead take / fix |
| 10:06.23 | lawrence | its all about helping people |
| 10:07.05 | mnemoc | dongs: http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux has basic info, if you can improve it after understanding how it goes, even better |
| 10:07.11 | dongs | yep, JUST found that |
| 10:08.05 | mnemoc | lawrence: you are punished for editing *any* wiki??? not only wikipedia? |
| 10:08.09 | jelly | lawrence: heh what, the firewall doesn't let you edit things on http://linux-sunxi.org? |
| 10:08.14 | lawrence | thats the firewall for you |
| 10:08.23 | dongs | china is awesome |
| 10:08.24 | lawrence | as soon as it see's wiki editing stuff kabloom |
| 10:08.40 | lawrence | then connection resets for everything for about 30 seconds |
| 10:08.45 | jelly | "oh noes, it's a mediawiki formatted POST! Better drop the packets" |
| 10:08.58 | lawrence | so i have reason to be difficult is all :) |
| 10:09.33 | jelly | tries https:// instead |
| 10:09.42 | lawrence | worse |
| 10:09.52 | lawrence | and don't say tor |
| 10:10.02 | lawrence | thats like asking for a knock on the door from the policia |
| 10:10.14 | jelly | wtf would they block any wiki |
| 10:10.52 | lawrence | github was blocked last week |
| 10:10.52 | lawrence | for a bit |
| 10:11.34 | jelly | can you edit... dunno, http://ikiwiki.info/sandbox/ ? |
| 10:11.51 | jelly | wonders if they match mediawiki-like content |
| 10:11.55 | mnemoc | he won't test, for fear to get his company punished |
| 10:11.56 | lawrence | more about url in post, if it triggers then blat |
| 10:12.01 | lawrence | no internet for 30 seconds |
| 10:12.08 | lawrence | if you continue, then 10 min |
| 10:12.20 | jelly | sigh |
| 10:12.37 | lawrence | different in different area's |
| 10:12.40 | lawrence | and different cities |
| 10:12.43 | lawrence | and different locations |
| 10:12.58 | jelly | do local .cn mediawiki instances get cut? |
| 10:12.59 | lawrence | but right now where i am, thats the usual cause/effect i can replicate / see |
| 10:13.02 | lawrence | local is ok |
| 10:13.08 | lawrence | as within the firewall |
| 10:13.13 | lawrence | and anything inside is subject to china law |
| 10:13.16 | mnemoc | quite impressive infrastructure .cn must have there to achive such complexity |
| 10:13.20 | lawrence | so no-one can write whatever they want |
| 10:13.40 | jelly | obvious answer then: lawrence hosts the wiki :-) |
| 10:13.45 | lawrence | its similar to the us in some ways |
| 10:13.56 | lawrence | eg - the US its bad to have music in a video |
| 10:14.00 | lawrence | here, they don't give a crap |
| 10:14.08 | lawrence | but you have some nudity, and BZZT |
| 10:14.24 | lawrence | we have a client who wanted to upload videos of their events |
| 10:14.36 | lawrence | the chinese video sites work fine, but lots of ads |
| 10:14.45 | lawrence | the foreign video sites are either blocked |
| 10:15.12 | lawrence | or anal about licencing - i.e. random deletion of files as it may / may not infringe arbitrary rule |
| 10:15.25 | lawrence | so each country has its own BS you gotta deal with |
| 10:15.56 | lawrence | North Korea internet was less restrictive than china's. |
| 10:16.02 | lawrence | and faster. |
| 10:16.18 | mnemoc | .es doesn't have any similar BS.... but >25% of unemployemnt :< |
| 10:16.34 | mnemoc | maybe they correlate |
| 10:16.42 | mnemoc | more BS, more employment |
| 10:16.44 | lawrence | although thats more a function of less users, and they don't care about foreign content so much. if its South Korea, then yeah, but anything else, they care not |
| 10:17.25 | lawrence | each place has its own twist on arbitrary policies |
| 10:17.42 | lawrence | although the US has been quite firm in implementing its own brand of BS worldwide, despite efforts otherwise |
| 10:18.40 | lawrence | hmm, maybe I should look to doing co-lo in DPRK :) |
| 10:18.59 | lawrence | someone gotta be the first |
| 10:19.02 | lawrence | hehe |
| 10:19.49 | mnemoc | and DPRK doesn't go via .cn anyway? |
| 10:20.04 | lawrence | not all |
| 10:20.15 | lawrence | but they don't have as much filter in place |
| 10:21.51 | dongs | "gcc is only apt-get away" |
| 10:22.11 | dongs | ha ha, I installed debian 6.0.6, apparently that's too old for any recent gcc. |
| 10:22.24 | lawrence | stable, unstable, testing |
| 10:22.29 | dongs | i have no idea what that is. |
| 10:22.36 | lawrence | debian is quite good on NOT being bleeding edge |
| 10:22.38 | dongs | nor do I want to find out |
| 10:22.43 | lawrence | apt-get install -t testing gcc |
| 10:22.45 | dongs | i just wanna get shit done. |
| 10:23.02 | lawrence | debian has diff repos for diff aims |
| 10:23.11 | lawrence | stable, testing, unstable |
| 10:23.23 | lawrence | anything more bleeding edge is in testing or unstable |
| 10:23.50 | lawrence | if you don't like debian, use bsd or similar |
| 10:23.52 | lawrence | its all fine |
| 10:23.58 | dongs | pfft. |
| 10:24.11 | lawrence | but you'll need to find a line on gcc or compile your own |
| 10:24.25 | lawrence | who knows what you prefer, you're a worse complainer than i am |
| 10:24.26 | lawrence | ;) |
| 10:24.34 | lawrence | gentoo is also fine |
| 10:24.41 | lawrence | or arch |
| 10:24.47 | lawrence | or pick your distro.. |
| 10:25.00 | dongs | so how do I find out if this random lunix sdcard image I got is hardfloat or not. apparently if it is, there's no usabvle hf compiler that actually works, so wtf to do? I'll shut up once I can get kernel buliding + booting so I can get this dumb driver figured out. |
| 10:25.03 | lawrence | personally, i pick the easiest route |
| 10:25.17 | lawrence | mount it |
| 10:25.21 | dongs | i dont want to pick distros or wahtever the fuck, I just want shit to work |
| 10:25.23 | lawrence | you have an image |
| 10:25.25 | lawrence | fdisk -l |
| 10:25.30 | lawrence | find your parttions |
| 10:25.33 | lawrence | mount 1 |
| 10:25.39 | lawrence | file XXX |
| 10:25.43 | lawrence | and see what its built with |
| 10:25.52 | dongs | um |
| 10:25.57 | dongs | and? |
| 10:25.59 | dongs | which" file" |
| 10:26.09 | lawrence | one of the many many many binaries on your image |
| 10:26.13 | lawrence | um |
| 10:26.17 | lawrence | and? |
| 10:26.24 | dongs | and why would that tell me hf or not |
| 10:26.31 | lawrence | (passive aggressiveness being order of the day today) |
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| 10:26.43 | lawrence | mostly as the headers in the file will tell you |
| 10:26.51 | dongs | setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x941012920da3eed3d9c113367c26e9e4fcacb75b, stripped |
| 10:26.54 | lawrence | and file will say XXX binary armhf bla |
| 10:26.58 | dongs | says nothing of the sort |
| 10:28.01 | mnemoc | arm's multiabi implementation sucks |
| 10:28.08 | lawrence | then grab a binary off |
| 10:28.16 | lawrence | or make a HF binary |
| 10:28.21 | lawrence | and see if it runs or borks |
| 10:28.25 | dongs | waaat. |
| 10:28.34 | dongs | I cant evne get hf compiler on this "6.0.6" debian |
| 10:28.43 | dongs | never mind wasting time trying to bulid one just to test |
| 10:29.03 | mnemoc | dongs: if you want to get a builder easily, just install ubuntu |
| 10:29.05 | lawrence | you have read-elf |
| 10:29.10 | lawrence | or similar tool? |
| 10:29.14 | dongs | mnemoc: i am not making a 3rd vm with another useless distro |
| 10:29.16 | lawrence | real-elf -A |
| 10:29.26 | lawrence | will show you what the file was compiled with |
| 10:29.35 | lawrence | or objdump |
| 10:29.40 | lawrence | and look for relevant bits |
| 10:29.49 | mnemoc | dongs: android wants ubuntu/64, vm for them. tizen wants ubuntu/32, vm for them. |
| 10:29.49 | lawrence | VFP_ARGS with real-elf |
| 10:29.52 | mnemoc | and so on |
| 10:30.19 | dongs | fuck ubuntu and fuck installing 20 distros just to get shit done. why doesnt stuff work universally |
| 10:30.31 | mnemoc | c'est la vie |
| 10:31.14 | mnemoc | if you want to "get shit done", use whatever it's recommended by the thing you want to make. |
| 10:31.20 | lawrence | if you can't work it out |
| 10:31.28 | lawrence | make a test file and gcc -O2 -march=armv6 -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard |
| 10:31.29 | BigWhoop | i cant install android nativly? |
| 10:31.32 | lawrence | and see if it runs |
| 10:31.39 | lawrence | if it does, you know your answer |
| 10:31.45 | lawrence | if it doesn't ditto |
| 10:31.53 | dongs | ... |
| 10:31.59 | lawrence | its either the red pill or the blue pill |
| 10:32.20 | dongs | lawrence: thre is no hf compiler for "debian 6.0.6" so "testing" it is irrelevant. isnt there some crap in /proc or whatever that returns what the shit was built with? |
| 10:32.25 | dongs | you'd think its the most fucking basic thing |
| 10:32.39 | lawrence | venting is good |
| 10:32.59 | lawrence | you're trying to ascertain if your target uses X or not |
| 10:33.06 | lawrence | its not that difficult |
| 10:33.14 | lawrence | and its prep work you need to do |
| 10:33.24 | lawrence | then bitch about why life is so unfair afterwards |
| 10:33.39 | arete74 | hi, the microsd card SDHC UHS-1 is compatibile with cubieboard? |
| 10:34.02 | lawrence | if you don't have any hardfp compiler, i'm sure one of us would make a test compile of something to assist you if asked nicely |
| 10:34.56 | dongs | that wouldnt do me any good |
| 10:35.13 | lawrence | there should be a way to see what abi is in use anyway, i don't know offhand except for building something and checking |
| 10:35.15 | dongs | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/kCjhlY31.html |
| 10:35.20 | lawrence | Or looking at a file, and checking |
| 10:37.29 | dongs | ^ so? |
| 10:37.52 | lawrence | i didn't offer |
| 10:38.02 | dongs | i pasted readelf of the file. |
| 10:38.11 | lawrence | Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers |
| 10:38.44 | lawrence | If the Output contains the line: 'Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers' it is compiled with '-mfloat-abi=hard'. |
| 10:38.53 | lawrence | voila. |
| 10:38.55 | lawrence | hard float |
| 10:39.16 | dongs | well, fuck. so wehre do I get a "hardfloat" compiler for "debian 6.0.6". |
| 10:39.25 | lawrence | apt-get install it |
| 10:39.35 | dongs | thats too easy, but it doesnt work. |
| 10:39.47 | lawrence | its a wierd name gnueabi-hf or some such that i can never typo |
| 10:39.55 | dongs | yep, and that doesnt work |
| 10:40.40 | lawrence | you are one grateful son of a bitch, aren't you |
| 10:40.45 | lawrence | hang on |
| 10:40.47 | BigWhoop | :D |
| 10:41.15 | lawrence | i can see that debian definitely has a hf compiler |
| 10:41.16 | lawrence | http://packages.debian.org/sid/armhf/gcc-4.5/filelist |
| 10:41.19 | lawrence | so... |
| 10:42.01 | lawrence | i would suggest emdebian though |
| 10:42.05 | lawrence | as theres is nicer |
| 10:42.06 | lawrence | so |
| 10:42.10 | lawrence | i know you *hate* debian |
| 10:42.13 | lawrence | but.. |
| 10:42.26 | jelly | compiler? They have a whole armhf distro! :-) |
| 10:42.32 | lawrence | edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:42.41 | lawrence | add deb http://www.emdebian.org/debian/ testing main |
| 10:43.10 | lawrence | install the keychain for emdebian so stuff will install without more whining |
| 10:43.11 | lawrence | apt-get install emdebian-archive-keyring |
| 10:43.18 | lawrence | apt-get update |
| 10:43.27 | lawrence | then consider |
| 10:43.48 | lawrence | apt-get install gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf or whatever the gcc du jour this week is |
| 10:44.01 | lawrence | may be 4.6 or 4.7, dunno |
| 10:44.02 | dongs | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf' |
| 10:44.12 | lawrence | may i interest you in |
| 10:44.16 | dongs | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabihf' |
| 10:44.20 | dongs | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabihf' |
| 10:44.21 | lawrence | apt-cache search gnueabihf |
| 10:44.28 | dongs | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabihf' |
| 10:44.38 | dongs | zero results. |
| 10:44.50 | lawrence | did you add the emdebian repo? |
| 10:44.55 | lawrence | did you apt-get update after? |
| 10:44.56 | dongs | yep. |
| 10:45.13 | lawrence | apt-cache search gnueabihf shows zlich? |
| 10:45.32 | dongs | yep. |
| 10:45.42 | dongs | :~# apt-cache search gnueabihf |
| 10:45.46 | dongs | :~# |
| 10:45.48 | dongs | blank. |
| 10:45.52 | lawrence | i see a crapload of compilers |
| 10:46.01 | lawrence | so, pastie your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:46.14 | dongs | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/kxSMhM11.html |
| 10:46.27 | dongs | there's otehr garbage in tehre thats default from install. |
| 10:46.29 | lawrence | for me apt-cache search gnueabihf | wc -l |
| 10:46.29 | lawrence | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.40 | lawrence | so i _know_ there are results |
| 10:46.44 | dongs | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/vNNyWz19.html full shit if it matters. |
| 10:46.48 | dongs | (unlikely) |
| 10:47.35 | dongs | why cant this stuff just work. |
| 10:47.36 | dongs | damn |
| 10:48.21 | lawrence | ok, so, the stuff is in testing |
| 10:48.26 | lawrence | so… you'll need to do |
| 10:48.36 | lawrence | apt-cache search -t testing gnueabihf |
| 10:48.44 | lawrence | and you should see a few results |
| 10:48.46 | dongs | zaroo. |
| 10:48.51 | lawrence | assuming i actually spelt that correctly |
| 10:49.02 | lawrence | ok, lets add in some apt- pinning bits |
| 10:49.59 | lawrence | hang on |
| 10:50.09 | lawrence | been a while before i had to do that |
| 10:50.17 | lawrence | just out of internet |
| 10:50.20 | lawrence | interest even |
| 10:50.23 | lawrence | apt-get update |
| 10:50.30 | lawrence | you see it talking to emdebian? |
| 10:50.34 | lawrence | and getting files |
| 10:50.36 | dongs | yeah. |
| 10:50.53 | dongs | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/aeRZpn43.html |
| 10:50.56 | dongs | bunch of crap from them. |
| 10:51.12 | dongs | miles of command lines typed by millions monkeys. |
| 10:51.28 | dongs | yet usability is precisely at same level (probably worse) as it was in 2000. |
| 10:51.39 | lawrence | apt-cache search -t testing eabi shows nada? |
| 10:51.50 | dongs | lots of crap |
| 10:52.01 | dongs | gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi - The GNU C compiler |
| 10:52.02 | dongs | gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi-base - The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) |
| 10:52.08 | dongs | among other shit |
| 10:52.27 | lawrence | i definitely see the hf stuff listed |
| 10:52.38 | dongs | ... |
| 10:53.03 | lawrence | can you edit / make a file called preferences in /etc/apt |
| 10:53.06 | lawrence | add in |
| 10:53.12 | lawrence | Package: * |
| 10:53.28 | lawrence | Pin: release a=stable |
| 10:53.33 | lawrence | a fark it, i cut n pastie |
| 10:53.51 | lawrence | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/ALoKWx92.html |
| 10:54.05 | lawrence | if you don't have a /etc/apt/preferences stick that in there |
| 10:54.07 | lawrence | if you do |
| 10:54.17 | lawrence | then make sure stable is the highest number |
| 10:54.23 | lawrence | and add testing in there |
| 10:54.27 | lawrence | post that, save |
| 10:54.29 | lawrence | apt-get update |
| 10:54.43 | buZz | posted a picture of the defective powercable to the mailinglist |
| 10:54.43 | dongs | t# apt-cache search -t testing gnueabihf |
| 10:54.45 | dongs | blank. |
| 10:54.46 | lawrence | apt-cache search -t testing gnueabihf |
| 10:54.47 | buZz | its so insanely thin |
| 10:54.48 | BigWhoop | you can find these tutorials in ubuntu forums :D |
| 10:55.03 | dongs | fuck this |
| 10:55.06 | dongs | raging out. |
| 10:55.06 | dongs | bbl |
| 10:55.12 | buZz | hugs dongs |
| 10:55.27 | lawrence | i'm going to add the repo to a 6 box i haz lying in data centre just to double chekc |
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| 10:55.31 | lawrence | cos this is simple shiat |
| 10:55.48 | BigWhoop | yep it is |
| 10:57.28 | lawrence | i had a vision |
| 10:57.35 | BigWhoop | changes the nick to "justwaitingfortom" :D |
| 10:57.36 | lawrence | amd_64 != x86_64 |
| 10:57.46 | lawrence | and dongs was pasting amd_64 |
| 10:57.52 | BigWhoop | or i64 :) |
| 10:58.15 | lawrence | and i'm on x86_64 |
| 10:58.18 | lawrence | not amd_64 |
| 10:58.33 | lawrence | which means, that emdebian no haz amd64 compiler in repo |
| 10:58.37 | lawrence | n'est pas? |
| 10:58.51 | lawrence | pinging mr dongs |
| 10:59.26 | lawrence | go get thee a release of x86_64 |
| 10:59.31 | lawrence | vs amd64 |
| 10:59.41 | lawrence | and you shall find the promised land. er files |
| 10:59.44 | BigWhoop | he bloat away :D |
| 10:59.55 | lawrence | in a rage of anger and malice |
| 11:00.11 | lawrence | he'll be back to thank me tomorrow with a snarl and a fuck this shit. |
| 11:00.19 | BigWhoop | :) |
| 11:00.24 | lawrence | d:) |
| 11:01.04 | lawrence | its them little gotcha's that everyone loves. |
| 11:01.29 | lawrence | i did tell him to built a toolchain hisself earlier |
| 11:01.49 | BigWhoop | :D |
| 11:01.49 | lawrence | buildtools or simlar or crosstools is not too hard |
| 11:02.17 | rm | amd64 is, in fact, x86_64 |
| 11:02.22 | rm | different names for the same thing |
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| 11:04.50 | lawrence | looks like emdebian doesn't have compiler chain if you are amd64, but does if you are x86_64 |
| 11:04.58 | lawrence | to me |
| 11:05.10 | BigWhoop | amd64 is the old name. because amd has the first one |
| 11:05.21 | lawrence | i know why that is |
| 11:05.45 | BigWhoop | try to install i64 on the board :D |
| 11:05.47 | lawrence | and was confused about it many many many years ago |
| 11:06.06 | lawrence | i left my other itanium at home |
| 11:06.24 | BigWhoop | cubitanium-board :D |
| 11:06.28 | lawrence | actually did have a DEC one at one point |
| 11:06.35 | lawrence | although it was running a mini vms |
| 11:07.05 | lawrence | oh wait, don't i mean hp |
| 11:07.11 | lawrence | as hp was itanium, not dec |
| 11:07.16 | lawrence | i forget |
| 11:07.18 | lawrence | one of those |
| 11:07.29 | lawrence | been a good few years of trying to forget the pain |
| 11:12.41 | BigWhoop | no tom and no email reply :( |
| 11:14.23 | lawrence | 7pm now china time |
| 11:14.39 | lawrence | he may have left zhuhai to go home already |
| 11:14.42 | lawrence | it is cny soon |
| 11:15.24 | lawrence | and china has the tiny issue of roughly 3/4 billion people on the move |
| 11:15.52 | lawrence | so not necessarily easy to get plane or train tickets back home when you decide you want. you get what you get for when its available |
| 11:16.32 | BigWhoop | without a smartphone? :D |
| 11:16.39 | rm | on Debian systems the x86_64 architecture is called amd64 |
| 11:16.45 | rm | so what you say is impossible |
| 11:16.51 | rm | since they are em*debian* |
| 11:17.31 | lawrence | i check what i have in random vm du jour here |
| 11:17.36 | lawrence | ah tis ubuntu |
| 11:17.37 | lawrence | not debian |
| 11:18.11 | rm | ubuntu too |
| 11:18.30 | rm | only on CentOS/RedHat/Fedora that architecture is called x86_64 |
| 11:18.37 | rm | (and probably some others) |
| 11:19.00 | lawrence | Linux lawrence-virtual-machine 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/L |
| 11:19.09 | lawrence | oh yeah? |
| 11:19.55 | lawrence | says its wheezy/sid |
| 11:20.13 | rm | yeah |
| 11:20.16 | rm | dpkg --print-architecture |
| 11:20.33 | lawrence | you didn't like uname -a? |
| 11:20.40 | rm | nope |
| 11:21.07 | lawrence | anyway, on this box i see hf gcc |
| 11:21.08 | rm | rm@rm:~$ uname -a |
| 11:21.08 | rm | Linux rm 3.7.2-rm1+ #32 SMP Wed Jan 16 15:49:30 YEKT 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:21.08 | rm | rm@rm:~$ dpkg --print-architecture |
| 11:21.08 | rm | amd64 |
| 11:21.22 | lawrence | both |
| 11:21.23 | rm | and hence on that box I need to look for "amd64" packages |
| 11:21.49 | lawrence | uname -a says x86_64 these days |
| 11:21.59 | rm | that is correct |
| 11:22.16 | lawrence | stop nitpicking, and think of why its not picking up files from emdeb repo |
| 11:22.24 | rm | dpkg-architecture is always amd64, though |
| 11:22.28 | lawrence | y |
| 11:22.30 | rm | on debian and debian-based distros |
| 11:22.31 | BigWhoop | yup |
| 11:22.41 | lawrence | well, assuming you are using that |
| 11:22.43 | rm | hence like I said <lawrence> amd_64 != x86_64 <lawrence> which means, that emdebian no haz amd64 compiler in repo |
| 11:22.46 | rm | is impossible |
| 11:23.05 | lawrence | was a thought |
| 11:23.11 | lawrence | i have been known to be wrong |
| 11:23.19 | lawrence | on occasion |
| 11:24.44 | lawrence | you have some idea's why his isn't picking up the files |
| 11:24.45 | lawrence | ? |
| 11:25.43 | BigWhoop | he made something wrong! :) |
| 11:25.53 | lawrence | i'm checking if its wheezy has and testing doesn't |
| 11:26.01 | lawrence | but we deliberately added testing |
| 11:27.08 | lawrence | ahah! |
| 11:27.11 | lawrence | its in sid |
| 11:27.14 | lawrence | but not in testing |
| 11:27.45 | lawrence | so he'll need to specify sid for the repo |
| 11:27.46 | lawrence | bingo |
| 11:27.54 | BigWhoop | !!! |
| 11:28.04 | lawrence | someone want to double check? |
| 11:28.17 | lawrence | (talking about on emdebian.org) |
| 11:29.15 | lawrence | 32bit has hf in sid |
| 11:29.16 | lawrence | http://www.emdebian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/ |
| 11:29.37 | lawrence | as does 64 bit |
| 11:29.55 | rm | yes, using "unstable" instead of testing seems to work |
| 11:29.59 | rm | and it has gcc-4.7 there |
| 11:30.06 | lawrence | and testing doesn't have hf |
| 11:30.09 | lawrence | so voila |
| 11:30.10 | lawrence | thats why |
| 11:30.11 | rm | need to try building my kernel with that, instead of 4.4 |
| 11:30.38 | lawrence | i need to update to write unstable or sid |
| 11:30.41 | lawrence | vs testing |
| 11:30.44 | lawrence | in my notes |
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| 11:30.51 | lawrence | and someone needs to put in the wiki too |
| 11:34.26 | dongs | now i know why all lunix "developers" and "users" always talk about "beer" |
| 11:34.34 | dongs | you have to be basically piss-drunk 24/7 to tolerate this crap |
| 11:35.13 | lawrence | change the /etc/apt/source.list to |
| 11:35.14 | lawrence | deb http://www.emdebian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 11:35.18 | lawrence | instead of testing |
| 11:35.27 | lawrence | seems its now moved to unstable from testing |
| 11:35.28 | dongs | 19:59 < lawrence> go get thee a release of x86_64 |
| 11:35.29 | dongs | 19:59 < lawrence> vs amd64 |
| 11:35.29 | dongs | 19:59 < lawrence> and you shall find the promised land. er files |
| 11:35.32 | lawrence | oh well. |
| 11:35.33 | dongs | you have to be shitting me |
| 11:36.00 | dongs | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ i see nothing that says "x86_64" |
| 11:36.03 | lawrence | was trying to rack my brain for ideas |
| 11:36.06 | lawrence | anyway |
| 11:36.18 | lawrence | issue is that the hf stuff is now in unstable vs testing |
| 11:36.22 | lawrence | so use the unstable repo |
| 11:36.27 | lawrence | yes, news to me too |
| 11:36.42 | lawrence | quite ya whining ;) |
| 11:36.49 | lawrence | help is help |
| 11:37.11 | dongs | two guys walk into a bar (to drink beer, of course). guya: what debian version do you run guyb: "squeeze" |
| 11:37.40 | dongle | lawrence: so wtf d oI do |
| 11:37.44 | dongle | delete vm and install something else? |
| 11:37.48 | lawrence | no, its fine |
| 11:37.55 | lawrence | just go to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:37.59 | lawrence | change that one single line |
| 11:38.09 | lawrence | deb http://www.emdebian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 11:38.11 | dongle | which line |
| 11:38.16 | dongle | k |
| 11:38.21 | lawrence | please guess |
| 11:38.37 | lawrence | apt-get updat |
| 11:38.38 | lawrence | e |
| 11:39.02 | lawrence | apt-cache search gnueabihf |
| 11:39.08 | lawrence | install whatever you fancy. |
| 11:39.24 | dongle | yes, fucking finally. |
| 11:39.45 | dongle | ill just install 4.7 because i dont give a shit at this point |
| 11:39.47 | lawrence | @BigWhoop - see I said he'd be really grateful. |
| 11:40.35 | lawrence | ps dongle - my mommy always told my to watch my fucking mouth. |
| 11:40.38 | dongle | oh i got news for you |
| 11:40.44 | dongle | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/pQSdlh11.html |
| 11:40.45 | dongle | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.11 | lawrence | it needs bits |
| 11:41.17 | lawrence | i'm going to suggest this |
| 11:41.21 | lawrence | delete the vm |
| 11:41.27 | lawrence | forget it ever existed |
| 11:41.34 | lawrence | go get a mint or ubuntu version |
| 11:41.36 | lawrence | and install |
| 11:41.38 | dongle | no. |
| 11:41.41 | lawrence | then peace will ensure |
| 11:41.53 | lawrence | or add unstable to your debian repo's |
| 11:42.01 | lawrence | and let it update |
| 11:42.08 | lawrence | probably quicker to download and wipe though |
| 11:42.27 | lawrence | OR |
| 11:42.30 | dongle | why the fuck someting released in "septeber 2012" contains obsolete shit |
| 11:42.33 | lawrence | compile your own toolchain |
| 11:42.37 | BigWhoop | grateful? ;) |
| 11:42.53 | lawrence | totally |
| 11:43.04 | lawrence | i bathe in his thanks |
| 11:43.20 | lawrence | its either sit here and watch compiles |
| 11:43.24 | lawrence | and chat on irc |
| 11:43.36 | lawrence | or go to CNY dinner for a client i don't really want to go to |
| 11:43.50 | dongle | http://news.danawa.com/News_List_View.php?nSeq=2307456 do want |
| 11:44.24 | dongle | 20:41 < lawrence> or add unstable to your debian repo's |
| 11:44.27 | dongle | how the fuck do I do this |
| 11:44.43 | lawrence | i don't fucking know, try asking nicely |
| 11:44.56 | dongle | i'm already banned from #debian |
| 11:45.04 | dongle | pre-emptively |
| 11:45.08 | lawrence | :) |
| 11:45.23 | lawrence | you see them lines saying things like stable |
| 11:45.28 | lawrence | in the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:45.35 | dongle | no. i pasTED it before |
| 11:45.43 | dongle | < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/vNNyWz19.html |
| 11:45.47 | lawrence | imagine if you decided to add unstable to like somewhere in there |
| 11:45.47 | dongle | it says shis like "squeeze" |
| 11:45.50 | lawrence | on those lines |
| 11:46.03 | lawrence | squeeze is a name |
| 11:46.09 | lawrence | unstable = sid i think these days |
| 11:46.15 | lawrence | squeeze = stable |
| 11:46.24 | lawrence | i usually stick to stable, testing , unstable |
| 11:46.25 | dongle | jesus Iremember talk of "sid" in like 2006 |
| 11:46.26 | dongle | in debian |
| 11:46.32 | lawrence | as i never remember the bloody naming |
| 11:46.42 | lawrence | and stable , testing, unstable makes more sense to me |
| 11:46.53 | mnemoc | sid is a perpetual name |
| 11:47.03 | mnemoc | not a particular version |
| 11:47.05 | lawrence | i thought it was toys from toy story |
| 11:47.08 | BigWhoop | a noob with a board....second part |
| 11:47.15 | lawrence | as i remember other names in distant part |
| 11:47.32 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:47.53 | lawrence | gee, now its still in development = sid |
| 11:47.57 | lawrence | they changed that |
| 11:48.39 | lawrence | wheezy sid squeeze. bleh |
| 11:48.58 | dongle | so, i added something. |
| 11:48.59 | dongle | then? |
| 11:49.03 | lawrence | apt-get update |
| 11:49.13 | dongle | well now getting 4.7 stuff works |
| 11:49.17 | dongle | so whatevers. |
| 11:49.18 | BigWhoop | the same thing you did in the past :) |
| 11:49.19 | lawrence | yeah, i was right its toy story |
| 11:49.27 | lawrence | woody ... |
| 11:49.58 | lawrence | so don't you give me that a noob with a board shit mr bigwhoop |
| 11:50.00 | lawrence | ;) |
| 11:50.44 | BigWhoop | angry noob with a board :D |
| 11:51.05 | lawrence | noob who's been doing dev for > 30 years |
| 11:51.16 | BigWhoop | dongle <--- |
| 11:51.21 | dongle | http://bcas.tv/paste/results/F7uFcc35.html do I need to give a shit about this? |
| 11:51.54 | lawrence | just be aware |
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| 12:15.58 | dongle | why do I need to compile uboot if all i want to do is compile kernel and work on driver? |
| 12:16.14 | lawrence | you don't |
| 12:16.26 | lawrence | you can use the nightlies off of the sunxi site |
| 12:16.34 | lawrence | for uboot etc |
| 12:16.35 | dongle | why do i even need to change it at all |
| 12:16.44 | lawrence | you don't |
| 12:16.55 | lawrence | if you have a working bootable sd then you don't |
| 12:17.03 | dongle | great. |
| 12:17.03 | lawrence | if you don't then.. you do |
| 12:18.49 | dongle | you've almost got rid of me. |
| 12:19.02 | lawrence | kernel config? |
| 12:19.11 | dongle | once i have this kernel built + booted + env to do driver build i will ahve no further questions. |
| 12:19.14 | dongle | no |
| 12:19.26 | mnemoc | if you want to boot your kernel from nand you'll need to update your u-boot |
| 12:19.36 | dongle | i dont. |
| 12:19.49 | BigWhoop | and you´ll send a pack of beer to lawrence :) |
| 12:19.56 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:20.03 | lawrence | nah mnemoc |
| 12:20.07 | lawrence | he has to put up with my shit |
| 12:20.09 | lawrence | ;) |
| 12:20.16 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:22.21 | dongle | I have a feeling I shouldn't be doing git clone on https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi |
| 12:22.30 | dongle | isnt tehre a freaking tarball I can just download |
| 12:22.36 | lawrence | yes |
| 12:22.43 | lawrence | look at the top in github |
| 12:22.54 | lawrence | you can grab in a variety of formats, including a zip or tar |
| 12:22.59 | lawrence | github is nice |
| 12:23.06 | lawrence | except when its banned |
| 12:23.10 | lawrence | but i digress |
| 12:23.20 | mnemoc | if you pick .zip it won't compile |
| 12:23.35 | mnemoc | because there are some symlinks |
| 12:23.49 | lawrence | then its git clone for you sonny jim! |
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| 12:23.59 | mnemoc | .tar should work |
| 12:24.07 | dongle | i dont want kernel's entire history back to 1986 |
| 12:24.38 | mnemoc | i don't think they imported the history when they switched to .git |
| 12:24.43 | lawrence | dongle - that chip on your shoulder is really heavy you know |
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| 12:25.10 | lawrence | should try take it off occasionally and enjoy life |
| 12:25.20 | BigWhoop | now its 8 pm in china :D |
| 12:25.23 | dongle | I do, each time I use my windows 8 pro desktop |
| 12:25.39 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: don't worry, lawrence doesn't sleep |
| 12:25.41 | lawrence | 8:30 in china |
| 12:25.50 | lawrence | or go to dinner with clients |
| 12:25.55 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:26.18 | lawrence | instead he'll stay in office till about 11 |
| 12:26.19 | lawrence | then go home |
| 12:26.32 | mnemoc | and re-join irc from there |
| 12:26.45 | lawrence | its the laptop |
| 12:26.47 | lawrence | i drag it home |
| 12:26.49 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:26.54 | BigWhoop | i dont need lawrence mnemoc :) |
| 12:26.57 | lawrence | my desktop is at apple |
| 12:27.07 | lawrence | as it don't want to wakey wakey consistently from sleep |
| 12:27.15 | lawrence | and i like my machines to run perfectly |
| 12:27.27 | lawrence | so i told them keep it till they can reproduce and fit |
| 12:27.29 | lawrence | fix |
| 12:27.39 | dongle | remote: Counting objects: 1768240 |
| 12:27.42 | dongle | .... |
| 12:27.53 | lawrence | now is a good time to go for a beer |
| 12:27.58 | lawrence | or a vpn -> usa |
| 12:28.46 | mnemoc | and a vpn to usa won't get you punished? |
| 12:28.51 | lawrence | not from japan |
| 12:28.59 | mnemoc | doh |
| 12:29.00 | lawrence | but it improves things somewhat |
| 12:30.44 | dongle | remote: Counting objects: 3043873, done. |
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| 12:56.12 | mateusz_ | lawrence, isnt cubieboard one with multicore cpu ? |
| 12:56.31 | mateusz_ | lawrence, but I dont see any symmetric processing option in kernel options for that platform |
| 12:56.31 | dongle | `arch/arm/configs/cubieboard_defconfig': No such file or directory |
| 12:56.31 | lawrence | no |
| 12:56.42 | lawrence | a20 is multicore |
| 12:56.44 | lawrence | a10 is single |
| 12:56.51 | lawrence | dongle, you're back |
| 12:56.54 | lawrence | we missed you |
| 12:57.02 | mnemoc | dongle: just use sun4i_defconfig |
| 12:57.44 | mateusz_ | lawrence, aahht hanks |
| 12:57.45 | mateusz_ | thanks |
| 12:58.06 | dongle | mnemoc: k |
| 12:58.16 | dongle | except that isnt there either |
| 12:58.25 | dongle | o wait, nvm |
| 12:58.43 | lawrence | make ARCH=arm sun4i_defconfig |
| 12:58.59 | lawrence | in kernel folder you just pulled |
| 12:59.22 | mateusz_ | lawrence, if I want to build kernel for i.MX 6 with Quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 which platform is that then? |
| 12:59.30 | lawrence | and perhaps not a bad idea to change CONFIG_CPU_FREQ to performance |
| 12:59.33 | mateusz_ | lawrence, this is the other product https://www.miniand.com/products/GK802%20Android%20Mini%20PC |
| 12:59.36 | lawrence | so you dont go god this is slow |
| 12:59.58 | lawrence | i.MX is quite probably freescale |
| 13:00.06 | lawrence | as thats how they label stuff |
| 13:00.11 | mateusz_ | ah |
| 13:00.22 | lawrence | but i need to wait for page to load |
| 13:00.38 | mateusz_ | yes itr says Powered by a quad-core Freescale |
| 13:00.42 | lawrence | so i can go see the big large bit that says, and i state: |
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| 13:00.54 | lawrence | powered by a quad core freescale 1.2 |
| 13:00.56 | lawrence | as you note |
| 13:01.29 | mateusz_ | lawrence, so if I want to boot debian for that device, the same procedure as just for cubieboard expect different kernel right? |
| 13:01.37 | mateusz_ | lawrence, well and script.bin |
| 13:01.39 | lawrence | diff compiler too |
| 13:01.55 | lawrence | and script.bin is only for the Ax Allwinner series |
| 13:01.59 | mateusz_ | oh different compiler ? |
| 13:02.01 | lawrence | as thats per their uboot config |
| 13:02.13 | lawrence | well, you _could_ use an arm7 compiler |
| 13:02.47 | lawrence | well what i should say is gcc with relevant arm9 settings |
| 13:02.50 | lawrence | rather than compiler |
| 13:03.11 | lawrence | otherwise rm is going to surface and whinge at me for incaccuracy as his wont |
| 13:03.11 | dongle | iMX sucks |
| 13:03.34 | mateusz_ | I find android on iMX faster then Cubieboard |
| 13:03.38 | lawrence | but you generally want to grab a toolchain and bits for the platform in question |
| 13:03.49 | lawrence | no doubt, its a faster chip |
| 13:03.58 | dongle | i find android on $X faster than $random_chinese_cpu |
| 13:04.09 | lawrence | i find my quad core i7 outruns my pentium pro |
| 13:04.31 | mateusz_ | that must be a supprise |
| 13:04.44 | mateusz_ | dongle, why it sucks then? |
| 13:04.49 | lawrence | you'd probably compare the quad core i.mx6 with similar arm9 quad cores |
| 13:05.03 | lawrence | like the HiScale quad core, or the MTD oen |
| 13:05.04 | dongle | mateusz_: chip sucks, periperhals suck, devtools suck. |
| 13:05.14 | dongle | freescale codewarriod shit is pure aids |
| 13:05.19 | lawrence | i figured out the problem |
| 13:05.25 | lawrence | dongles significant other doesn't suck |
| 13:05.28 | lawrence | :) |
| 13:06.02 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 13:06.13 | mateusz_ | well would be nice to buy something like cubieboard with arm quadcore allwinner |
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| 13:06.18 | mateusz_ | but I havent seen anything like that |
| 13:06.31 | lawrence | i could make one |
| 13:06.52 | lawrence | but give it like 3 months and everyone and the ktichen sink will have "keys" doing them |
| 13:07.08 | lawrence | eg MTK6577 based |
| 13:07.22 | lawrence | or HI-802 based |
| 13:07.51 | lawrence | eg - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.78.2fuaKL&id=16663646130 |
| 13:07.52 | mateusz_ | so I have to wait for better alternative |
| 13:08.00 | lawrence | depends what you need |
| 13:08.00 | mateusz_ | hence iMX does not sucks |
| 13:08.08 | lawrence | for my needs the cubie is adequate |
| 13:08.16 | lawrence | although i could also look to the mips ingenic stuff |
| 13:08.23 | lawrence | as thats also adequate for my needs |
| 13:08.58 | mateusz_ | I need small arm for running small webserver with python applications on it |
| 13:09.19 | rm | lawrence, you could do much better than becoming petty and vengeful about being publicly pointed out wrong about something |
| 13:09.24 | mateusz_ | but I also want to use it as a fully functional desktop with debian |
| 13:09.47 | lawrence | yup, petty and vengeful, thats me |
| 13:10.19 | lawrence | issue at moment is more graphics side on the various options |
| 13:10.31 | lawrence | as the graphics haven't necessarily been opened up |
| 13:10.47 | lawrence | so they may work nicely in android with a binary blob |
| 13:11.07 | lawrence | but in *nix no support unless you reverse engineer it or redo |
| 13:11.53 | focus | Got two cubies - both have different problems :( - log of TTL/USB converter http://www.gplsquared.com/cubie_notes/cubie_error1.txt one has no video, while other has video spash screen but does not complete its boot into Android |
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| 13:12.47 | lawrence | #2 sounds like grounding |
| 13:13.15 | focus | The one that shows some video can't be powered by external 2A power supply - it can only be powered from same power as PC |
| 13:13.36 | lawrence | #1 try a known working image |
| 13:13.41 | lawrence | there are some on the wiki |
| 13:13.41 | focus | lawrence: what should I ground? |
| 13:14.04 | focus | yep - images next |
| 13:14.07 | lawrence | ignore me |
| 13:14.22 | lawrence | was reading your if power obtained from x works, but y doesn't |
| 13:14.27 | lawrence | re crashing |
| 13:14.28 | lawrence | for #2 |
| 13:14.46 | lawrence | may be flaky psu - eg power not 5v or whatever |
| 13:15.04 | lawrence | does it work on the other board? |
| 13:15.11 | focus | psu ok - i got dozens |
| 13:15.30 | focus | i have to try the power experiment on other board later |
| 13:15.42 | focus | not physically near it at the moment |
| 13:15.57 | lawrence | used same hdmi cable / screen for both? |
| 13:16.04 | lawrence | hdmi cables can be flaky things |
| 13:16.07 | focus | same hdmi cables and screen |
| 13:16.09 | lawrence | make sure to use decent ones |
| 13:16.27 | focus | I got several hdmi |
| 13:16.43 | focus | I am electronic engineer :) |
| 13:16.48 | lawrence | great |
| 13:16.54 | lawrence | so less arguing :) |
| 13:17.01 | focus | yes :) |
| 13:17.03 | lawrence | try X - WHY? |
| 13:17.07 | lawrence | :) |
| 13:17.18 | focus | any hint is good enough for me to go work on it |
| 13:17.59 | lawrence | http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images |
| 13:18.02 | focus | one board had solder splash on the underside - yanked it before powering up luckily |
| 13:18.06 | lawrence | download an image from there |
| 13:18.33 | focus | lawrence: wow thanks for that link! |
| 13:18.34 | lawrence | martins are for the cubie |
| 13:18.44 | lawrence | the wiki is at linux-sunxi.org |
| 13:19.07 | lawrence | and my hopeless advice is also on cubieforums.com |
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| 13:20.20 | focus | The solder splash was near the USB - and it must have been powered up and tested before I got it. No telling what that might have done :( |
| 13:20.44 | lawrence | i've been lucky so far |
| 13:20.49 | lawrence | 3 boards, no issues |
| 13:21.09 | lawrence | but for me its 1-2 days to get / return so no big deal |
| 13:21.35 | focus | I'm far away in EU, a long delay. |
| 13:21.45 | lawrence | far away in .cn |
| 13:22.19 | focus | I used to live in CN for 2 years - Guanzhou doing manufacturing :) |
| 13:22.36 | lawrence | i have an apt in zhuhai |
| 13:22.41 | lawrence | not quite the same |
| 13:22.46 | lawrence | but closeish |
| 13:23.01 | lawrence | guangzhou full of darker skinned people |
| 13:23.03 | focus | I know of shilong, shenzhen, donguan |
| 13:23.27 | focus | and hong kong |
| 13:23.29 | lawrence | shenzhen is great, dangerous but great |
| 13:23.50 | focus | big electronics market in shenzhen - I never stayed there - just visit |
| 13:23.53 | lawrence | oh, also - the shipping boards have a known bad power cable |
| 13:24.04 | lawrence | so toss it, and use an OTG cable to power up |
| 13:24.06 | focus | the power cables are ok lukily |
| 13:24.09 | lawrence | (the micro usb) |
| 13:24.13 | lawrence | ok, not all are bad |
| 13:24.26 | lawrence | but apparently 600 odd out of the recent ones are |
| 13:24.38 | lawrence | so assume 1 in 5 are bad |
| 13:24.50 | focus | micro usb power and dc socket power both produce identical results |
| 13:25.04 | Dave77 | does the board power up with the bad cable or fail during boot? |
| 13:25.23 | focus | Dave77: power cables are good |
| 13:25.25 | lawrence | can't say |
| 13:25.43 | lawrence | the bad cables are too thin, and can't carry much current |
| 13:25.50 | lawrence | so if you need load, won't work |
| 13:26.27 | focus | how much current does the cubie need? USB is only about 500mA |
| 13:26.39 | focus | I got 20A supply :) |
| 13:26.43 | lawrence | 500ma is enough to run without too many things |
| 13:26.59 | lawrence | wifi or sata for sure no |
| 13:27.04 | lawrence | but usb keyboard or mouse should be ok |
| 13:27.07 | Dave77 | has anybody had hdmi working via USB 500ma power? |
| 13:27.12 | lawrence | yes |
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| 13:27.19 | lawrence | all the time for days at a time |
| 13:27.31 | lawrence | multiple boards too |
| 13:27.33 | mnemoc | my cubie even feeds from the hdmi |
| 13:27.35 | mnemoc | 1W |
| 13:27.35 | lawrence | in multiple locations |
| 13:27.47 | lawrence | http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheedl/8428776137/in/photostream - thats my desk psu |
| 13:27.48 | focus | jealous |
| 13:28.10 | lawrence | only goes up to 10A though |
| 13:28.12 | lawrence | but its rock solid |
| 13:28.22 | dongle | finally the trash is compiling. |
| 13:28.28 | dongle | lets see how long until it fails |
| 13:28.28 | lawrence | i have a little 5A one i'm afraid to use as its wobbly |
| 13:28.39 | lawrence | dongle - always an optimist |
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| 13:30.38 | dongle | does this shit need initrd or anything else retarded lie ktaht |
| 13:30.44 | dongle | or can I just copy over uImage to sd card and go? |
| 13:31.29 | lawrence | uImage = kernel |
| 13:31.37 | dongle | that wasnt my question |
| 13:31.49 | lawrence | so copy it to first partition with rest of your boot config |
| 13:32.00 | lawrence | that wasn't my final answer |
| 13:32.28 | lawrence | you can specific noinitrd in your kernel load params if you don't want initrd |
| 13:33.23 | dongle | im asking is default config going to need it. |
| 13:34.08 | lawrence | depends on your mood |
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| 13:36.49 | dongle | ok, uImage + modules moved in place. |
| 13:36.53 | dongle | just reboot and it shodul work right. |
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| 13:37.17 | lawrence | you have a ttl - > usb |
| 13:37.23 | lawrence | suggest plug in, and watch |
| 13:37.27 | lawrence | + screen watch |
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| 13:38.42 | dongle | well, it hasnt crashed, so I guess thats progress. |
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| 13:39.24 | dongle | Linux (none) 3.0.57+ #1 PREEMPT Thu Jan 31 22:31:35 JST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 13:39.31 | dongle | ok, im done, see now that was easy and I dont have to bother you anymore. |
| 13:39.57 | dongle | lol @ preeempt, etc. cheap attempt to make a piece oef shit, shinier. |
| 13:39.57 | lawrence | so long, and thanks for all the fish. |
| 13:40.00 | dongle | ^_- |
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| 13:54.19 | SquirrelCZECH | :D |
| 13:54.23 | SquirrelCZECH | lawrence: 42! :-) |
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| 13:54.33 | lawrence | sup |
| 13:55.53 | BigWhoop | waaaaaaaaaaaaaiting |
| 14:00.08 | lawrence | for godot? |
| 14:00.30 | BigWhoop | when tom is godot then eyes |
| 14:00.36 | BigWhoop | :D |
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| 15:00.30 | BigWhoop | 11 pm :D |
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| 15:10.37 | imRance | 11pm too :D |
| 15:10.50 | pidpawel | 16pm |
| 15:10.54 | pidpawel | 50minutes to exam. :> |
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| 15:23.46 | BigWhoop | here it is 16 pm. but i wait for a guy from the 11pm timeline :) |
| 15:24.41 | GeorgeIoak | lawrence: how'd your day go? better than mine I bet! |
| 15:24.54 | lawrence | everyone is an asshole here |
| 15:24.59 | lawrence | so no |
| 15:25.19 | lawrence | here as in office |
| 15:25.20 | lawrence | not irc |
| 15:25.35 | mnemoc | change it now... |
| 15:25.36 | GeorgeIoak | sorry to hear that. at least you don't have a project deadline staring you in the face! |
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| 15:26.36 | GeorgeIoak | i just couldn't find out why my build wasn't using the Mali drivers but I did find a bunch of similar errors reported and they seemed to be tied to linaro? |
| 15:29.09 | lawrence | did you compile in libumb |
| 15:29.12 | lawrence | libump |
| 15:29.15 | lawrence | etc |
| 15:29.39 | BigWhoop | iam not a ashole! |
| 15:29.48 | lawrence | are you in my office? |
| 15:30.42 | BigWhoop | maybe. can you see me? |
| 15:31.01 | lawrence | dog would bark |
| 15:31.15 | lawrence | and my cunning msn thingy light would go green |
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| 15:31.48 | BigWhoop | iam to row behind you and wave my hands |
| 15:31.48 | mnemoc | wasn't msn deprecated in favour of skype? |
| 15:31.50 | BigWhoop | BUH! |
| 15:31.56 | lawrence | http://www.computersolutions.cn/blog/2011/12/product-integration-ebuddy-zoneminder-and-me/ |
| 15:32.02 | lawrence | its not tied to msn |
| 15:32.15 | lawrence | it just looks like an msn thingy |
| 15:32.20 | lawrence | its a physical device |
| 15:32.27 | lawrence | that i hooked up to go flashy flashy |
| 15:32.41 | lawrence | when people come upstairs and trigger the ipcam monitoring |
| 15:33.05 | lawrence | its stupid, but it works |
| 15:33.13 | lawrence | and i also have one for server load |
| 15:33.21 | lawrence | as you can do yellow, green, red |
| 15:33.35 | lawrence | and its easy to read json data and do that |
| 15:33.42 | lawrence | even in python |
| 15:33.43 | BigWhoop | dont mistake both :D |
| 15:34.14 | GeorgeIoak | yes i did compile libump, I see this in one of my X.org logs, maybe it's something to do with using LVDS? 31.891] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable but this log could be from before the Mali driver trial. i need to check |
| 15:34.40 | lawrence | i needed to wipe off the libump.so's and recompile |
| 15:34.57 | lawrence | also - george, the modules need to load in right order |
| 15:35.01 | lawrence | as drivers are fussy |
| 15:35.14 | lawrence | so do the /etc/modules as per ordering in wiki or my docs |
| 15:36.54 | lawrence | i did some more random playing of bits |
| 15:36.54 | lawrence | http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheedl/8431935087/in/photostream |
| 15:37.19 | lawrence | seems can only concurrently play about 4 roms before frame rate gets iffy < 25fps |
| 15:37.24 | lawrence | :) |
| 15:37.46 | lawrence | i got it doing audio today too |
| 15:37.47 | GeorgeIoak | i pretty sure they are being loaded in the right order since i'm able to use the LVDS panel but where can I check the actual order they're loaded |
| 15:37.51 | lawrence | so progress |
| 15:38.07 | lawrence | look in /etc/modules |
| 15:38.23 | lawrence | (on the device) |
| 15:38.24 | GeorgeIoak | does look like making progress |
| 15:44.06 | lawrence | i posted a complete kernel log of mine from uboot to prompt so you can take a look at load |
| 15:44.13 | lawrence | in that forum which must not be named |
| 15:44.16 | lawrence | ;) |
| 15:45.17 | GeorgeIoak | lcd, hdmi, ump, disp, mali, mali_drm, 8192cu is the order |
| 15:45.42 | lawrence | stick the sata at top if you need that also |
| 15:45.56 | lawrence | its sata_uhci or something along those lines |
| 15:46.01 | lawrence | look at wiki or my posts |
| 15:46.02 | GeorgeIoak | i was going to look there to see if anything happened. didn't mean to clutter it up just thought it was a good place to list stuff for reference |
| 15:46.18 | GeorgeIoak | no need for sata at this point |
| 15:46.24 | lawrence | forum is for interactivity imho |
| 15:46.31 | lawrence | not this is concrete set in stone |
| 15:46.47 | lawrence | but we already had that conversation earlier, and we agree to disagree ;) |
| 15:46.59 | GeorgeIoak | it's just a pain noe, mailing list, irc, forum, wiki |
| 15:47.09 | GeorgeIoak | r/noe/now |
| 15:47.33 | GeorgeIoak | agree to disagree, agreed! |
| 15:48.45 | GeorgeIoak | know what teh 8192cu is off the top of your head? that list order is correct |
| 15:49.01 | lawrence | thats the chipset for the realtek ethernet |
| 15:49.11 | lawrence | although its called WEMAC for some reason inside the soc |
| 15:49.14 | Turl | wifi, not ethernet |
| 15:49.20 | lawrence | just going to double check that |
| 15:49.23 | Turl | wemac driver is called wemac |
| 15:49.42 | mnemoc | the rtl in the cubie is a PHY only |
| 15:49.53 | lawrence | realtek is an 8201 on the board |
| 15:50.21 | mnemoc | that's the phy companion of A10's wemac |
| 15:50.54 | mnemoc | and 8192cu seems to be the cheapest usb/wifi on .cn |
| 15:50.58 | lawrence | nyet |
| 15:51.01 | lawrence | there are cheaper |
| 15:51.15 | lawrence | so george, no need for the 8192 as we don't have one |
| 15:51.26 | Turl | lawrence: their "crap factor" must be higher then :P |
| 15:51.32 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:51.40 | Turl | 8192cu is pretty unreliable already |
| 15:52.02 | mnemoc | the cheaper must really be useless |
| 15:52.10 | lawrence | the peanut gallery has arrived |
| 15:52.17 | lawrence | you guys woke up alreday? |
| 15:52.29 | mnemoc | .oO(eh?)o |
| 15:52.58 | mnemoc | goes to make another espresso just in case |
| 15:53.02 | lawrence | i did some basic costing on ethernet other day |
| 15:53.13 | GeorgeIoak | that could be why my internet connection is so flaky, maybe i need to remove that? |
| 15:53.34 | lawrence | ethernet phy 2.5-3 rj45 .8 misc bits +-.5. ethernet is like 5rmb <$1 |
| 15:53.35 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: first confirm you got it 100FD |
| 15:54.09 | lawrence | and, i can actually buy full ethernet cards here new for 4.5 |
| 15:54.12 | lawrence | which is a bit sad |
| 15:54.17 | Turl | lawrence: almost 1PM over here |
| 15:54.26 | lawrence | 11:54pm here |
| 15:54.36 | Baikonur | how easy is wlan with cubieboard |
| 15:54.46 | GeorgeIoak | mnemoc: what's a quick way to check, i'm only using wired, no need for any wireless stuff at this point. just started coffee so brain=slow |
| 15:54.49 | lawrence | depends on your power supply :) |
| 15:55.06 | lawrence | george - you DONT HAVE IT, SO CAN REMOVE IT |
| 15:55.06 | Baikonur | i assume you can't just plug & play an usb wireless dongle and expect it to work |
| 15:55.18 | mnemoc | lawrence: his brain? |
| 15:55.37 | lawrence | if its supported in your kernel and you've compiled in wifi network drivers should just work (famous last words) |
| 15:55.56 | lawrence | oh, and you have whatever firmware blobs may be necessary to init |
| 15:56.24 | BigWhoop | dumdidum.....bad chances to meet tom today i guess |
| 15:56.30 | Turl | is there any mainstream wifi chip not supported on mainline nowadays? |
| 15:56.39 | Turl | (other than marvell crappy ones) |
| 15:57.03 | GeorgeIoak | lawrence: UNDERSTOOD!, thanks, thought i was checking wired, so solly/sorry |
| 15:57.16 | lawrence | NO PrObLeM |
| 15:57.21 | buZz | Turl: some broadcoms |
| 15:57.26 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: dmesg output, or mii-tool or ethtool |
| 15:57.29 | buZz | also, many 5ghz devices seem to not work |
| 15:57.33 | lawrence | lots of atheros |
| 15:57.50 | Baikonur | i've got an upcoming project at school, in which we need to use a Raspi, Beagleboard "or a similar device" to grab weatherdata on a wlan and display it on some led cable configuration |
| 15:57.51 | buZz | lots of atheros _are_ supported |
| 15:58.00 | Turl | ath9k works great these days |
| 15:58.02 | GeorgeIoak | thanks, ifconfig wasn't showing it |
| 15:58.09 | buZz | so does ath5k |
| 15:58.22 | lawrence | if you follow the openwrt boys not a few complaints about things |
| 15:58.32 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: ifconfig is a pre linux 2.5 tool |
| 15:58.53 | buZz | openwrt guys have very specific needs, harsh to compare it to general linux users :) |
| 15:59.02 | GeorgeIoak | showing my age, am I ;) |
| 15:59.15 | buZz | bah, i still use ifconfig |
| 15:59.21 | lawrence | i would like to know what the magic new replacement for ifconfig is |
| 15:59.22 | buZz | /sbin/ip is weird |
| 15:59.26 | lawrence | as i'm also ifconfig |
| 15:59.29 | buZz | its that |
| 15:59.34 | lawrence | i no haz |
| 15:59.38 | lawrence | but i haz ifconfig |
| 15:59.42 | buZz | yah, doesnt come installed usually |
| 15:59.42 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: showing how harmful blog/forum tutorials and google's popularity based answers are |
| 15:59.59 | buZz | cause hardly anyone uses it |
| 16:00.16 | lawrence | i stick poke bits at the hardware to init |
| 16:00.23 | lawrence | on 2.4 |
| 16:00.28 | lawrence | with uclinux |
| 16:00.30 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: since 2.6 you should use `ip`, not `ifconfig/route/....` |
| 16:00.36 | lawrence | cos i likes pain and suffering i does |
| 16:01.00 | lawrence | and because 2.4 kernel and fs can actually fit in 2m flash |
| 16:01.09 | Turl | mnemoc: really? :| I've never booted 2.4 and still use ifconfig |
| 16:01.11 | lawrence | unlike bloaty mcbloat 3.x |
| 16:01.27 | mnemoc | Turl: happens a lot, not your fault :< |
| 16:01.34 | Turl | ip is weird |
| 16:01.45 | GeorgeIoak | so you want my brain to change? it bugged me before that wondows was ipconfig and nix was ifconfig and now they're the same! |
| 16:02.04 | Turl | it's "ip" not "ipconfig" |
| 16:02.05 | Turl | :P |
| 16:02.14 | BigWhoop | :D |
| 16:02.27 | lawrence | ooh, new shiny old bits - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.120.52IYIz&id=16286438037 |
| 16:02.34 | lawrence | software radio on a budget |
| 16:02.36 | Baikonur | it hertz when /sbin/ip |
| 16:02.40 | lawrence | should i shouldnt i... |
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| 16:03.02 | BigWhoop | you should! |
| 16:03.12 | Turl | lawrence: SDR for 8USD? :O |
| 16:03.23 | lawrence | yeah, its a bit overpriced |
| 16:03.25 | Turl | I saw a kickstarter or so for a SDR chip and the perk for one was like 400$ |
| 16:03.29 | lawrence | i'll look for cheaper |
| 16:05.23 | GeorgeIoak | WTF, I commented out 8192cu in /etc/modules, rebooted, an it's coming up complaining about graphics not properly set??! something strange is going on... |
| 16:05.43 | lawrence | http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.263.OtUu3q&id=15942525922 |
| 16:05.51 | buZz | got two free rtlsdr cards :P |
| 16:06.08 | buZz | but they were bought for under 20 euros a piece |
| 16:06.14 | lawrence | and? |
| 16:06.17 | buZz | cheaper than the dvb-t stick i have in use ;) |
| 16:06.18 | buZz | AND |
| 16:06.20 | buZz | ? |
| 16:06.23 | lawrence | they're < 8$ new with antenna |
| 16:06.28 | buZz | cool |
| 16:06.28 | lawrence | whats your point? |
| 16:06.31 | buZz | buy some |
| 16:06.45 | buZz | also, plz figure out how to get gnuradio working on cubieboard ;) |
| 16:06.50 | buZz | tried but failed so far |
| 16:06.57 | Turl | fm too? :P |
| 16:07.04 | mnemoc | lawrence: when are you going to open a free shipping shop for us poor westerns? :p |
| 16:07.06 | buZz | rtlsdr does FM aswell |
| 16:07.10 | lawrence | i'm concentrating on doing SDL gaming at the moment thank you very much |
| 16:07.16 | lawrence | so i can start on hardware bits |
| 16:07.28 | buZz | SDL gaming? sdlquake? |
| 16:07.34 | buZz | frozenbubble? :D |
| 16:07.49 | lawrence | i registered openjamma today |
| 16:07.56 | buZz | nice |
| 16:07.56 | lawrence | http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheedl/ |
| 16:08.12 | lawrence | first 3 are indicative of my special back of the bus needs |
| 16:08.44 | lawrence | a10 + ram + flash + sd + vga + usb host + pcb + casing BoM is roughly 120rmb odd |
| 16:08.51 | lawrence | + a few months of time |
| 16:08.51 | buZz | instagram >_< |
| 16:09.14 | lawrence | yes, let me go grab the 5dii for dinky shots why don't i... |
| 16:09.19 | lawrence | iphone is fine for that |
| 16:09.28 | buZz | iphone can make normal photos |
| 16:09.36 | buZz | why degrade them with instagram :P |
| 16:09.49 | lawrence | as then i can upload to 3 or 4 places at the same time |
| 16:09.54 | lawrence | assuming china plays ball |
| 16:09.59 | lawrence | which it doesn't always |
| 16:10.14 | lawrence | so i can dump to email, flickr, instagram and other bits in 1 app |
| 16:10.19 | lawrence | its called convenience |
| 16:10.28 | lawrence | plus, then i have silly filters too |
| 16:10.31 | buZz | cant you let instagram not edit the photos? |
| 16:10.32 | lawrence | to annoy buzz with |
| 16:10.39 | buZz | :P |
| 16:10.44 | buZz | it works ;) |
| 16:10.56 | buZz | also, it lowers your perceived age |
| 16:10.59 | buZz | to about 14 |
| 16:10.59 | lawrence | my 5dii is perpetually borrowed |
| 16:11.10 | BigWhoop | normal photos with iphone... LOL :D |
| 16:11.19 | lawrence | 4s is perfectly adequate |
| 16:11.27 | lawrence | i've taken some nice photos with one |
| 16:12.09 | Turl | lawrence: are there any ISDB-Tb things on there? :) |
| 16:12.28 | lawrence | yes |
| 16:12.39 | lawrence | http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.2.lp5nPq&id=9725341977 |
| 16:12.52 | lawrence | http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.9.lp5nPq&id=10847025455 |
| 16:12.56 | lawrence | that sort of thing? |
| 16:13.02 | lawrence | or you mean other? |
| 16:13.26 | lawrence | this is hd |
| 16:13.27 | lawrence | http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w17345770682.8.doiUaK&id=13684675371& |
| 16:13.35 | mnemoc | lawrence: have you seen 2x24 2mm cables/headers as for the cubie? |
| 16:13.40 | lawrence | i have |
| 16:13.48 | lawrence | and i even gave george links to buy them |
| 16:13.52 | lawrence | as he asked nicely |
| 16:13.55 | lawrence | right george? |
| 16:14.29 | GeorgeIoak | OK this is REALLY weird. if I comment out that 8192cu module in /etc/modules my desktop doesn't boot, complains about graphics not being set |
| 16:14.33 | Turl | lawrence: I mean USB dongle-ish |
| 16:14.50 | lawrence | usb dongle ish you need to give me some chipset that do |
| 16:14.56 | lawrence | as easier to find like that |
| 16:14.58 | Turl | GeorgeIoak: sure your editor doesn't break the file in some way? |
| 16:15.06 | RA3OR | what are those? |
| 16:15.11 | GeorgeIoak | mnemoc: i'm building up more baseboards today so can ship next week, no need for cables |
| 16:15.27 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: do you USPS? :) |
| 16:15.52 | lawrence | did 倪小姐 talk to the people with the headers? |
| 16:15.54 | GeorgeIoak | that's what i was planning on USPS PRiority mail ahould be ~$5.15 |
| 16:16.06 | mnemoc | GeorgeIoak: awesome! |
| 16:16.17 | GeorgeIoak | my first edit was done with gedit on the desktop so i don't think so |
| 16:16.18 | lawrence | i spoke to ems today, they wanted like 150 odd vs 250 for dhl |
| 16:16.23 | buZz | ahhh GeorgeIoak is the cubiebaseman |
| 16:16.25 | mnemoc | ems is BS |
| 16:16.25 | buZz | awesome |
| 16:16.55 | GeorgeIoak | but ems is like 1-2 weeks and dhl is 2 days to me from cn |
| 16:17.00 | lawrence | yup |
| 16:17.04 | mnemoc | takes the same channels as normal post, takes at best as long as normal post, and costs a lot more |
| 16:17.12 | lawrence | but doesn't make sense for 1.5rmb parts though george |
| 16:17.35 | GeorgeIoak | very true but i never buy just 1 thing, that's why Anly is in Shenzhen |
| 16:17.38 | lawrence | @turl - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w56644465.64.mwHpSq&id=16732031092 |
| 16:17.47 | lawrence | so she found after i gave you link? |
| 16:17.59 | lawrence | or that was enough for her to go, oh, *thats* what you wanted |
| 16:18.41 | GeorgeIoak | she's kind of brain dumb sometimes. she already shipped my other stuff and 5 hours agao sent me an email asking if i still needed the connectors?!! |
| 16:19.04 | lawrence | well, if you don't get them, lemme know, but clock is ticking |
| 16:19.12 | GeorgeIoak | i asked her to see how many are available to ship B4 your Holiday |
| 16:19.12 | lawrence | getting closer to shut down .. |
| 16:19.25 | GeorgeIoak | will do, thanks! |
| 16:19.30 | Turl | mnemoc: not at all, at least on my experience |
| 16:19.32 | GeorgeIoak | don't remind me! |
| 16:19.44 | dongle | um, should i be able to plugin a USB device and see some usual linux spam in dmesg? |
| 16:19.51 | lawrence | yup |
| 16:19.52 | dongle | or do i need to push some button or something. |
| 16:19.56 | dongle | well, its certainly not doign that |
| 16:20.05 | dongle | the only difference from default config is I enabled SPI driver |
| 16:20.05 | Turl | mnemoc: EMS gets stuff shipped on a week, normal mail is a month+ |
| 16:20.05 | GeorgeIoak | when i commented out that line i found in Xor log that /dev/fb0 was not found |
| 16:20.25 | lawrence | i gotta head home |
| 16:20.27 | lawrence | leaving lapper here |
| 16:20.40 | dongle | [ 0.220000] [usb_manager]: CONFIG_USB_SW_SUN4I_USB0_OTG |
| 16:20.44 | lawrence | knowing my luck a server will fail and i'll have no computer at home except the mac mini |
| 16:20.45 | dongle | [ 0.300000] [sw_hcd_host0]: Set USB Power ON |
| 16:20.46 | dongle | etc. |
| 16:20.52 | dongle | wait, does 5V from power supply go to USB too? |
| 16:20.56 | lawrence | laterz |
| 16:21.01 | lawrence | uh yeah dongle it does |
| 16:21.06 | mnemoc | Turl: here EMS stuff is always stopped at customs, and that makes it slower than normal post :| |
| 16:21.18 | lawrence | EMS is ok -> US |
| 16:21.24 | lawrence | DHL is ok -> most places |
| 16:21.31 | lawrence | FEDEX is useless |
| 16:21.40 | lawrence | China Post = avoid at all costs |
| 16:21.51 | mnemoc | loves HKP |
| 16:21.53 | lawrence | TNT is decent to SA for larger stuff i ship |
| 16:22.04 | dongle | well huh |
| 16:22.11 | lawrence | (South Africa) |
| 16:22.17 | lawrence | as they actually follow up |
| 16:22.19 | Turl | mnemoc: if it's 'normal sized' EMS stuff, yeah, it'll be stopped |
| 16:22.29 | dongle | no, i am definitely NOT getting power over usb port. |
| 16:22.30 | lawrence | DHL -> .za is farking awful |
| 16:22.35 | Turl | mnemoc: but it won't sit for two weeks on customs doing nothing |
| 16:22.48 | lawrence | each country is different |
| 16:22.56 | lawrence | if you ship lots you learn who to use -> where |
| 16:22.58 | Turl | mnemoc: if it's small EMS stuff, think a document sized envelope, it won't even hit customs |
| 16:23.14 | lawrence | yeah DHL < 1kg shoots through as its "documents" |
| 16:23.31 | mnemoc | Turl: in .es "small, under 2kg" packages via normal post are never stopped.... regardless the price on the custom declaration sticker |
| 16:23.50 | Turl | DHL/FedEX/etc have a different post regime |
| 16:24.03 | lawrence | generally you have to be truthful and put "its a gift of 5$ value" |
| 16:24.05 | Turl | they will always charge you whatever says on the thing |
| 16:24.05 | dongle | so uh, how do I enable power to usb port |
| 16:24.08 | Turl | and charge you for handling it |
| 16:24.09 | lawrence | coughs |
| 16:24.34 | Turl | so you end up wasting like 4x the cost paying customs fees, handling fees, and whatever fees to DHL/FedEX/etc |
| 16:24.48 | lawrence | 88 |
| 16:25.09 | Turl | lawrence: yeah they don't believe the 5$ gift thing anymore |
| 16:25.24 | mnemoc | $20 gift? :p |
| 16:25.29 | Turl | they don't even look at the sticker if they stop your package |
| 16:26.14 | Turl | they ask you what is it and how much did you pay, and they may tax you on what you said, or google for a reasonable market price and tax you on that |
| 16:26.19 | lawrence | generally if its from china, and something small like a usb key sized device, its considered cheap crap, so $5 is believable. |
| 16:26.32 | Turl | ie if you get a 5$ phone they'll tax you on 200$ |
| 16:26.39 | lawrence | as they don't know usb key from quad core 16g + bla |
| 16:26.40 | dongle | lawrence: USB has 2 voltage regs on it. whose enable pin goes to gpio. |
| 16:26.46 | lawrence | i'm not here |
| 16:26.49 | lawrence | i'm leaving |
| 16:26.52 | dongle | ok. |
| 16:26.55 | lawrence | go hassle another kind person |
| 16:26.58 | dongle | right. |
| 16:27.14 | mnemoc | received a 500E camera, declared as a 500E camera, delivered to his home by the mailman totally untaxed :p |
| 16:27.27 | buZz | sweet |
| 16:27.30 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah, that stuff happens |
| 16:27.31 | buZz | in which country? |
| 16:27.33 | mnemoc | .es |
| 16:27.36 | buZz | nice |
| 16:27.38 | lawrence | @mnemoc - it arrived @ siesta time thats why |
| 16:27.39 | lawrence | ;) |
| 16:27.44 | mnemoc | lawrence: :D |
| 16:27.56 | lawrence | anything arrives at 11-3pm forget them doing anything |
| 16:28.01 | mnemoc | lawrence: probably there is a laziness factor involved, yes |
| 16:28.01 | lawrence | ok, leaving |
| 16:28.07 | Turl | mnemoc: on the other hand you might get a 1$ thing stopped and have to pick it up and waste a lot of time :< |
| 16:28.35 | mnemoc | .ar is .... special :p |
| 16:28.56 | mnemoc | but parcelforce (uk) seems to be similar |
| 16:29.24 | Turl | is there any completely sane post office? ;) |
| 16:32.44 | GeorgeIoak | still trying to figure out why i can't get the Mali drivers to work if any brains are available |
| 16:33.26 | dongle | mnemoc: any idea why USB port power on host ports is disabled |
| 16:34.13 | Turl | GeorgeIoak: you're using GLES apps for testing right? |
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| 16:34.44 | dongle | [ 5.760000] [sw-ohci2]: Set USB Power OFF |
| 16:34.44 | dongle | hmm |
| 16:34.48 | dongle | i wonder where to change that. |
| 16:34.50 | GeorgeIoak | yes, es2_info shows DRI2: failed to authenticate |
| 16:35.07 | GeorgeIoak | and the rendereder is software rasterizer |
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| 16:40.17 | GeorgeIoak | Turl: I see a bunch of these in the X log, is that common, (EE) SUNXIFB(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument |
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| 16:42.45 | mnemoc | dongle: check your script.bin |
| 16:43.59 | GeorgeIoak | can you take a look at my X log, http://pastebin.com/EMS1qHSA |
| 16:44.08 | dongle | mnemoc: i havent touched it |
| 16:44.22 | dongle | as in its default that shipped |
| 16:44.40 | mnemoc | no idea what's shipped |
| 16:44.47 | dongle | whats shipped works wiht usb ports. |
| 16:44.55 | dongle | if I boot android or wahtever. |
| 16:45.44 | dongle | actually, i lied. whats shipped is this dumb debian image off jas-hacks. t hats probably why it doesnt work. |
| 16:45.49 | BigWhoop | Tom? :D |
| 16:45.49 | dongle | ill dick with that tomorow though. coma time. |
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| 16:46.13 | Turl | GeorgeIoak: you'll have to ask ssvb |
| 16:46.15 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: mail him. he doesn't come often |
| 16:46.38 | BigWhoop | hipboy address? |
| 16:46.50 | mnemoc | hipboi@ |
| 16:47.11 | BigWhoop | yea with two chars and a point infront? :D |
| 16:47.15 | GeorgeIoak | Turl: thanks, I'll ping him and see if he can look |
| 16:47.34 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: based on your log, looks like xf86-video-sunxifb is compiled without libUMP support |
| 16:49.08 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: hmm, so does that mean this "failed" somehow?, autoreconf -vi |
| 16:49.37 | GeorgeIoak | i tried your drivers initially and when i couldn't get it to work i tried xf86-video-mali |
| 16:50.30 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: if you compiled it before installing libUMP, then it probably did not find it and just disabled this functionality |
| 16:51.08 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: ok, did xf86-video-mali compile correctly? does it provide gles acceleration? |
| 16:51.44 | GeorgeIoak | as far as i could tell everything compiled correctly but i always get software renderer |
| 16:52.04 | BigWhoop | mnemoc? |
| 16:52.14 | mnemoc | BigWhoop? |
| 16:52.25 | BigWhoop | [17:47] <BigWhoop> yea with two chars and a point infront? :D |
| 16:52.49 | BigWhoop | just to make clear that its the right address. |
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| 16:52.59 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: the domain name is kind of obvious |
| 16:53.19 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: i'll go do a make clean on libUMP and then compile it again, then do the same for xf86-video |
| 16:53.28 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: or I would have typed it |
| 16:53.57 | BigWhoop | yea domain is short google :D but whats infront of it. Two chars, a dot and hipboi |
| 16:54.07 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: sigh, if you precisely follow the instructions from http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400 then it should work |
| 16:54.09 | mnemoc | hipboi@cubieboard.org |
| 16:54.25 | BigWhoop | hm |
| 16:55.21 | BigWhoop | yesterday it was another mail address |
| 16:55.37 | BigWhoop | thanks. But public is not a good idear :) |
| 16:55.46 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: i did and i even followed lawrences after my first attempts didn't work. i did compil vlc w/CedarX last night and that does work, not sure if it's going to help me though |
| 16:56.16 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: I tried to not be that explicit, but you didn't get it |
| 16:56.45 | BigWhoop | irc has privat massages. hasnt it? |
| 16:57.19 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: just don't change the order of operations and do exactly what is written there without any improvisations |
| 16:58.18 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: including the tweaks for permissions, etc. |
| 16:58.20 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: as you didn't get hipboi@ chances were high you would miss the /q too |
| 16:58.30 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: i really tried, i'll do it again right now. anything i should do 1st to clean any mistakes? |
| 16:58.45 | GeorgeIoak | i've checked permissions many times |
| 16:58.51 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: but it's done. now write that mail |
| 16:59.08 | BigWhoop | yea but the address from yesterday includes hipboi too but was different. |
| 16:59.16 | BigWhoop | i did allready |
| 16:59.21 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: if something does not work exactly as written there, better ask for an advice instead of inventing your own workarounds |
| 16:59.33 | mnemoc | mr hipboi at G is also his |
| 16:59.49 | BigWhoop | then he has now two mails :D |
| 16:59.49 | mnemoc | from pre-cubieboard times |
| 17:00.00 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: understood, that's why I'm here ;) |
| 17:00.04 | mnemoc | and indiegogo@ and support@ and and and |
| 17:00.25 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: I think the cleanup is unnecessary, so you can just retry all the steps |
| 17:00.26 | mnemoc | but those probably have filters in place |
| 17:02.01 | BigWhoop | when you see him you can give him a hint :) |
| 17:02.39 | mnemoc | i don't see him more often than anyone else here |
| 17:03.10 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: at the beginning of the page they list the Mali-400 libraries in a table, i did not d/l 1 of those, i thought the compile did that, is that my mistake? |
| 17:04.03 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: you need to start from the "Mali-400 X11 DRI2 drivers" section, just skip the tables |
| 17:04.31 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: OK, that's what I thought, just double checking |
| 17:05.02 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what kernel are you using? |
| 17:07.07 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: 3.0.57 |
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| 17:11.47 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: the up to date sunxi-3.0 branch? |
| 17:12.31 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: i compiled the kernel late last week from that branch |
| 17:12.45 | ssvb | ok, it should be fine |
| 17:13.26 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: when i go to compile libump i get an error that /usr/include/ump file exists |
| 17:13.42 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: ok to just manually delete and compile again? |
| 17:15.06 | ssvb | I guess so |
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| 17:15.33 | GeorgeIoak | figured, just wanted to let you know so i don't miss anything odd |
| 17:15.51 | ssvb | sure |
| 17:18.03 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: fyi, i'm using autoreconf2.50 |
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| 17:25.24 | r4v5 | so 2d acceleration is working? |
| 17:26.13 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: ok, restarting the whole system just to be sure, i'll double check the permissions when i'm back up but they should be set in my rc.local file |
| 17:30.13 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: uh oh, no desktop and the X log shows open /dev/fb0: no such file or directory |
| 17:31.11 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: hmm, but that's related to the framebuffer kernel modules |
| 17:31.24 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: nothing mali specific yet |
| 17:32.15 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: i've powered down twice but i'll do it again just to be sure |
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| 17:40.50 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: can you take a look at the boot log, http://pastebin.com/ZMVzDbEn I get console message on the LCD, just no desktop |
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| 17:42.58 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: heh, that's https://groups.google.com/d/msg/linux-sunxi/kZNl9bFdE-g/4k8z2_i4nJgJ |
| 17:44.09 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what is the value of fb0_framebuffer_num in your .fex file? and what is the screen resolution? |
| 17:44.54 | Davn | Hi all, Who have experience connecting LVDS? In Rolando Quivira, successfully made it! But the topic is not specified what PIN PDx use : ( |
| 17:45.08 | GeorgeIoak | i'm running a LVDS panel so my resolution should be set to 1366x768 |
| 17:45.57 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: yes, that link looks similar to my issue |
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| 17:47.12 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: try to set fb0_framebuffer_num to 4 in your .fex file |
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| 17:48.03 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: my X log is at http://pastebin.com/dxqaQ1hZ |
| 17:48.40 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: the X log is unnecessary, it's the kernel problem |
| 17:49.47 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: but at least it looks like it is trying to do something to initialize mali, so you are on the right track |
| 17:49.50 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: fb0_framebuffer_num = 2, fb1_framebuffer_num = 2 |
| 17:51.24 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: hmm, this looks bad, there is not enough memory for setting both fb0_framebuffer_num=4 and fb1_framebuffer_num=4 |
| 17:51.40 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: do you also use HDMI output? |
| 17:52.15 | GeorgeIoak | i only need LVDS but let me check my FEX i think both are set but i don't have the mode numbers committed to memory |
| 17:53.19 | ssvb | you can just set only fb0_framebuffer_num=4 and try if it works |
| 17:54.09 | GeorgeIoak | disp_mode = 0, both screen0 and screen1 type=1 and mode=4. maybe a mistake in teh fex to set both? |
| 17:54.54 | GeorgeIoak | lcd0 is used, lcd1 is not |
| 17:55.24 | ssvb | ok, then it's fine, I guess fb1_framebuffer_num is irrelevant and just ignored |
| 17:56.57 | GeorgeIoak | should I try setting fb0_framebuffer_num = 4? The sdesktop booted fine this morning before I went and redid the Mali drivers though |
| 17:58.04 | ssvb | yes, 4 buffers is just as good as 2, in fact it is even better :) |
| 17:58.45 | ssvb | and the problem is triggered because mali stuff is trying to initialize itself |
| 17:59.06 | GeorgeIoak | k, I'll do that now. have to shit down and do it on the card, don't have SSH on the board now |
| 17:59.08 | Davn | +GeorgeIoak, sorry, photos can be connected to PIN cubieboard? |
| 17:59.39 | GeorgeIoak | Davn: ?? |
| 18:02.27 | MrCurious | anyone know where berryboot rasperian places the kernel (i want to install a new kernel) |
| 18:04.15 | Davn | GeorgeIoak, I can not connect to LCD ldvs, I do not know how to decipher the PD2 (LCDD2/LVDS0P1) |
| 18:08.14 | GeorgeIoak | Davn: sorry, busy at the moment |
| 18:08.52 | Davn | GeorgeIoak: okey |
| 18:12.43 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: OK, slightly better but now I get a warning that the system is running in low graphics mode because settings could not be detected correctly |
| 18:13.06 | ssvb | hmm, what exactly is providing this warning? |
| 18:13.14 | GeorgeIoak | Davn: both Rolando and I have LVDS working but I am working on Mali drivers right now |
| 18:14.15 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: do you have a log? |
| 18:14.36 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: X log looks interesting, let me post it |
| 18:17.47 | Davn | GeorgeIoak: Good job. I can not explain how to connect the PIN. I have a standard connector LDVS |
| 18:19.26 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: http://pastebin.com/6tSqvp9j |
| 18:25.30 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: well, you have no /dev/fb0 |
| 18:26.01 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: are the "lcd" and "disp" modules loaded? |
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| 18:26.28 | GeorgeIoak | ls -l lists it though. yes, lcd-hdmi-ump-disp-mali-mali_drm |
| 18:26.30 | PolyTicks | anyone here who managed to get bluetooth working on android? |
| 18:26.50 | PolyTicks | the android tv images |
| 18:26.50 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what about lsmod? |
| 18:27.33 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: and if you indeed have /dev/fb0, what about its permissions? |
| 18:28.08 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: it might be easier to just compile the framebuffer modules statically in the kernel (unless you have done this already) |
| 18:28.15 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: disp_ump, mali_drm, drm, mali, ump, hdmi, cpefreq_stats, lcd, disp... |
| 18:28.39 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: from lsmod |
| 18:28.45 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: looks about right, what happens if you try to restart X server? |
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| 18:29.20 | GeorgeIoak | right now the LCD screen is sitting on that window warning |
| 18:29.49 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: i click OK, and then have different options |
| 18:29.50 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: maybe the framebuffer modules were just loaded a bit later than X server tried to access /dev/fb0 |
| 18:30.18 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: let me take a quick peek at my kernel config |
| 18:31.38 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: the frame buffer hardware drivers section is blank but I see CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y |
| 18:32.10 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: http://linux-sunxi.org/Framebuffer |
| 18:33.16 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: it has the list of kernel options for the stuff that is better to be compiled in statically |
| 18:33.32 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: the choices i have are 1) run in low graphics mode, 2) reconfigure graphics, 3) troubleshoot, 4)exit to console |
| 18:34.03 | ssvb | I guess all of them might be bogus |
| 18:34.37 | ssvb | beats me what this "low graphics mode" could mean |
| 18:35.06 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: yeah, for now I'd rather drop to console to be safe |
| 18:35.07 | ssvb | the real problem is the failure to access /dev/fb0 in the Xorg log |
| 18:37.26 | GeorgeIoak | looking at my config I see the LYCHEE_FB=m SUNXI=m SUNXI_RESERVED_MEM=y UMP=y LYCHEE_LCD_SUN4I=m SUNXI_LCD=m LYCHEE_HDMI_SUN4I=m FB_SUNXI_HDMI=m |
| 18:37.45 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: cut off the CONFIG_ to shorten this post |
| 18:38.28 | Turl | do you have modules loaded? |
| 18:38.32 | Turl | disp, lcd, hdmi |
| 18:38.57 | Turl | ssvb: low graphics is vesa iirc |
| 18:39.10 | ssvb | Turl: now he has, but the X server could not access /dev/fb0 in http://pastebin.com/6tSqvp9j |
| 18:39.37 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: crw-rw---- 1 root video 29, 0 Dec 31 1969 /dev/fb0 |
| 18:39.38 | ssvb | Turl: so I suspect a race condition between the loading of these modules at start and the initialization of X server :) |
| 18:39.52 | Turl | yeah possibly |
| 18:39.58 | Turl | try running X again |
| 18:40.07 | GeorgeIoak | Turl: yes, lsmod lists them and ssvb confirmed they look OK |
| 18:40.19 | Turl | try 'startx' |
| 18:40.23 | GeorgeIoak | Turl: OK, i'll drop to console and try startx |
| 18:41.03 | PolyTicks | I/USB3G ( 95): cmd=/system/etc/usb_modeswitch.sh /system/etc/usb_modeswitch.d/0a12_0001 &, I/USB3G ( 95): excute ret : 0,err:No such file or directory |
| 18:41.11 | PolyTicks | anyone got a solution for that error? |
| 18:41.35 | PolyTicks | I guess I need USB drivers for my 0a12_0001 usb bluetooth dongle |
| 18:42.06 | GeorgeIoak | Turl: OK, couldn't get console on the board but UART was still alive so I started X from there and desktop is up. let me see what the X log says |
| 18:43.15 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: in this case I strongly recommend just compiling the framebuffer related modules statically, it will save you from spurious X server startup failures like this |
| 18:43.35 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: but now it's a good time to check if Mali acceleration works :) |
| 18:43.49 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: yes, that is where i was going right now |
| 18:45.35 | ssvb | and just in case, are you running "glmark2-es2" program for testing? |
| 18:47.06 | ssvb | because there is another one named "glmark2", which uses full fledged OpenGL and can't be accelerated |
| 18:47.14 | Turl | PolyTicks: you need usb modeswitch support |
| 18:47.20 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: just ran es2_info and glmark2-es2 and both report software |
| 18:47.32 | Turl | you have one of those dongles that show like a usb drive and need to be switched to modem mode |
| 18:47.42 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: hmm, that's very strange |
| 18:47.54 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb, Turl: let me peek in the X log to see if anything is different since now framebuffer num=4 |
| 18:48.25 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: you're telling! i'm loosing sleep over this one and all eyes are on me to get it working |
| 18:48.41 | PolyTicks | Turl: I think I have modeswitch support, those files are there, what's missing seems to be usb_modeswitch.d/0a12:0001 |
| 18:50.17 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: can you also try to check if "/usr/lib/libGLESv2.so" is a symlink to libMali.so? |
| 18:50.33 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: at the top of the X log I see No layout section. Using the frst screen section... no monitor specified for Mali Screen |
| 18:50.54 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: can you pastebin the current X log? |
| 18:51.20 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: 1min |
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| 18:57.17 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: http://pastebin.com/wNL1n3j0 I pasted the directory listeing of the libraries at the top |
| 18:57.48 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: FYI when I startedX it logged me in as root for this session |
| 19:01.04 | Turl | [ 1814.633] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/Mali DRI2_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/Mali DRI2_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) |
| 19:02.10 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: everything looks good |
| 19:03.05 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: at least on the X server side |
| 19:03.11 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: crap, you were supposed to find the key! I'm nervous about shutting down but I think I'll try it and see if at least I boot back up |
| 19:03.51 | GeorgeIoak | Turl: yes, what's up w/ DRI2_dri.so failed? |
| 19:04.14 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: well, now the problem is glmark2-es2 and why it wants to fallback to software |
| 19:04.36 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: one of the ways to find out is to run it under strace |
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| 19:05.27 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: the other important library is also libEGL.so, it should symlink to libMali.so too |
| 19:05.59 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: and permissions for /dev/ump, /dev/mali and /dev/dri/card0 should be tweaked to allow full access |
| 19:06.41 | Turl | ssvb: maybe LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH needs tweaking? |
| 19:06.43 | Turl | just a thought |
| 19:06.58 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: actually strace is the tool which could be used to see what the application tried to open and failed, that's why I mentioned it earlier |
| 19:08.00 | GeorgeIoak | there is no Mali directory in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/ |
| 19:08.25 | GeorgeIoak | and find / -name DRI2_dri.so comes back with nothing |
| 19:08.48 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: it's not a problem, this is a bogus error message about the failure to initialize full OpenGL |
| 19:09.10 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: those were set in rc.local but in this session i'm logged in as root so permissions shouldn't be an issue right now, right? |
| 19:09.19 | ssvb | yes |
| 19:09.43 | ssvb | does strace show anything useful? |
| 19:10.55 | ssvb | I even wonder about how does it find the software backend |
| 19:11.37 | ssvb | are the applications linked with libGL.so instead of GLES? |
| 19:13.16 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: hmm, wait, there is 1814.447] (EE) MALI(0): mali_drm_open_master DRM OPEN (fd: 0x7) in Xorg log |
| 19:14.49 | RavenII | http://www.watterott.com/en/Cubieboard ??? |
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| 19:15.28 | Davn | ssvb, sorry, you are unable to connect to LVDS? |
| 19:15.31 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: sorry, computer glitch |
| 19:15.58 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb:strace isn't installed will do now |
| 19:19.40 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: for comparison, here is my Xorg log with xf86-video-mali - http://pastebin.com/zjdWBQzQ |
| 19:20.25 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: what do you want me to run with strace? |
| 19:20.41 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: glmark2-es2 |
| 19:21.47 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: it will spam quite a lot, but you can search for "open" calls in the log and see which files it tried to access and with what outcome |
| 19:22.11 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: does it create the log automatically or do I need a switch |
| 19:22.29 | ssvb | it will spam to the console, a lot |
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| 19:31.44 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: strace log at http://pastebin.com/N638LxGL |
| 19:33.48 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what the hell, "open("/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/libEGL.so.1", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3" |
| 19:34.26 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: maybe Turl was right about LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH or any other tweaks |
| 19:35.13 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: anyway, we may try a crude bruteforce solution, just go to /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/ directory and symlink all of this to libMali.so :) |
| 19:35.19 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: hate to admit it but you kind of lost me on that |
| 19:35.40 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: but probably backup it first |
| 19:35.47 | GeorgeIoak | symlink everything in that directory? |
| 19:37.04 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: this directory contains the software emulated implementations of GLES libraries, for some reason glmark2-es2 goes straight there and loads the libraries from it |
| 19:37.35 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: you can also check "ldd /usr/bin/glmark2-es2" to see what libraries it links to |
| 19:38.31 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: but basically yes, you want glmark2-es2 to use libMali.so instead of these libraries to get hardware acceleration |
| 19:39.09 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: so replacing these libraries in the same way as they are replaced in /usr/lib may do the job |
| 19:40.21 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: k, looking at the glmark2-es2 now, a little slow because this machine and the cubie are on 2 sides of the room |
| 19:42.52 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: here's the ldd of glmark2-es2, http://pastebin.com/3gtH5yTa |
| 19:44.49 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: well, based on the ldd log it's obvious that it is set up to use mesa implementation :) |
| 19:45.26 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: so still symlink the files in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/ directory? |
| 19:45.43 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what happens if you just temporarily rename /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/ to something else |
| 19:46.04 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: and run ldd for glmark2-es2 again? |
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| 19:49.48 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: you get: http://pastebin.com/TDQ6iNm5 |
| 19:52.55 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: now what happens if you try to run it? |
| 19:54.14 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: symbol lookup error |
| 19:54.55 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: which symbol? |
| 19:55.05 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1: undefined symbol: XextCreateExtension |
| 19:55.23 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what is the size of /usr/lib/libUMP.so? |
| 19:56.33 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: you need to make sure that it is the library you have compiled yourself when installing libump |
| 19:56.38 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb:30814 |
| 19:56.59 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: that's bad, the real one should be around ~33K |
| 19:57.09 | GeorgeIoak | it's dated from this morning |
| 19:57.21 | GeorgeIoak | 2.5hrs ago |
| 19:57.33 | ssvb | yes, you were supposed to compile it as part of libump |
| 19:58.11 | GeorgeIoak | so it was compiled but why is it different size than what you're expecting? |
| 19:58.16 | ssvb | just go to the directory with libump sources and check if you can find libUMP.so there |
| 19:58.46 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: unfortunately there is another bad libUMP.so, which is bundled with libMali.so blob |
| 19:58.54 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: looks like you got it installed |
| 19:59.03 | titankiller2 | The parcel has not arrived at our sorting center and we do not confirm the above information. |
| 19:59.12 | titankiller2 | As on 16 jan |
| 19:59.29 | titankiller2 | does this take so long ? |
| 19:59.52 | GeorgeIoak | yes, i see it in the directory i used when i did this yesterday and this morning i started in a new directory just to be sure. let me check sizes |
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| 20:01.00 | ed___ | hi |
| 20:01.16 | ed___ | anybody is online? |
| 20:01.33 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: all the files are 30814 according to ls -l |
| 20:01.56 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: hmm, what does ldd say for libUMP.so? |
| 20:02.18 | GeorgeIoak | in the usr/lib directory, right? |
| 20:02.19 | ed___ | can i ask a question ssvb? |
| 20:02.39 | ed___ | my cubieboard is 512mb |
| 20:02.44 | ed___ | i bought it indigogo |
| 20:03.06 | ed___ | is wrong item shipped? |
| 20:03.43 | ed___ | do you know? |
| 20:04.12 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: ok, looks like the bad library should have size 30301, so it must be a correct one for you |
| 20:04.32 | pidpawel | ed___: or wrong board confguration (software) |
| 20:04.54 | ed___ | no, i checked hardware |
| 20:04.55 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: just in case, is /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1 symlinked to libMali.so ? |
| 20:05.05 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: just in case here is the ldd of libUMP.so, http://pastebin.com/jVdZUtZD |
| 20:05.07 | ed___ | 256x2 ddr3 used |
| 20:05.19 | pidpawel | 256x16x2 ? |
| 20:05.48 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: looks good, so it was false alarm about libUMP.so :) |
| 20:05.49 | ed___ | yes |
| 20:05.50 | ed___ | i write wrong |
| 20:06.13 | pidpawel | so it's ok. |
| 20:06.15 | ed___ | 2 pcs 256x16 ddr3 ram |
| 20:06.24 | pidpawel | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.24 | pidpawel | Mem: 815 365 449 0 58 238 |
| 20:06.28 | ed___ | but it must be 1 gb? |
| 20:06.38 | pidpawel | it is 1GB |
| 20:06.39 | mnemoc | 1GB - reserves |
| 20:06.55 | pidpawel | but it is organized in 16bit blocks |
| 20:07.24 | ed___ | i know |
| 20:07.41 | ed___ | it is too faster than raspberry and beaglebone |
| 20:09.16 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1 is NOT symlinked to libMali.s it is linked to libEGL.so.1.4 |
| 20:09.24 | ed___ | Do you know 64bit alternative live suit pack? |
| 20:09.34 | ed___ | it is not work |
| 20:09.56 | ed___ | i'll install virtual machine |
| 20:10.06 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: is libEGL.so.1.4 symlinked to libMali.so? |
| 20:10.16 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: good question |
| 20:10.47 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: yes it is |
| 20:10.47 | ed___ | but it is last solution |
| 20:11.19 | GeorgeIoak | ed___: there is a version of LiveSuit 1.07 which works on Win7 x64 |
| 20:11.49 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: but in any case, initially glmark2-es2 was pulling in a lot of libraries http://pastebin.com/3gtH5yTa |
| 20:11.57 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: I feel like we're close but haven't found the needle |
| 20:12.06 | ed___ | Geaorge you are the best |
| 20:12.09 | ed___ | thank you |
| 20:12.17 | ed___ | i'll try it now |
| 20:12.25 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: just try to make sure that libEGL* and libGLES* alre really symlinking to libMali.so |
| 20:13.00 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: restore the /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/ and tweak some symlinks |
| 20:13.05 | GeorgeIoak | let me look, i feel like i should install ssh on that board again, removed it when i thought i was close to shipping |
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| 20:15.21 | mashku | Hi |
| 20:15.31 | mashku | my sd card made with debian is not booting |
| 20:15.34 | mashku | what is wrong? |
| 20:15.40 | mashku | I followed this http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps#Setting_up_the_boot_partition |
| 20:15.57 | mnemoc | mashku: does it boot from nand instead? |
| 20:16.03 | mashku | yes |
| 20:16.09 | mashku | Android booted |
| 20:16.15 | mnemoc | then your card isn't bootable |
| 20:16.22 | mnemoc | check the dd/u-boot steps |
| 20:16.41 | mnemoc | and blow the slot, it can have dust |
| 20:18.09 | mashku | I can one more time follow the guide |
| 20:18.17 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: just so I don't miss anything here's the symlinks, http://pastebin.com/K94f1qyM |
| 20:19.46 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: seems OK, is that all the right files? |
| 20:19.55 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: what about the libraries from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/ ? |
| 20:20.51 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: is it linaro, right? |
| 20:21.13 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: yes, linaro |
| 20:21.41 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: you seem to have some rather unusual problems with these libraries, I think many people have successfully used GLES acceleration in linaro |
| 20:22.12 | GeorgeIoak | but why me?? |
| 20:22.29 | mnemoc | life |
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| 20:23.12 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks :-) |
| 20:23.16 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: http://pastebin.com/MWFikEAg is for the /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/ directory |
| 20:26.01 | ed___ | i've tested live suit pack 1.07 but not working in win7 64bit |
| 20:26.32 | ed___ | device not starting error occured |
| 20:26.34 | mashku | mnemoc, I hope logitech wireless usb keyboard will work :( |
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| 20:28.38 | GeorgeIoak | ed___: I've done it successfully several times. Does LiveSuite fail or the booting of the board fail |
| 20:29.46 | mnemoc | mashku: wireless usb keyboards just fake a normal usb keyboard |
| 20:30.10 | mashku | mnemoc, for some reason it does not work on rasbian |
| 20:30.17 | mashku | mnemoc, but does on android |
| 20:30.40 | mashku | but mayb rasbian is not what I should try booting on cubieboard |
| 20:33.27 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: anything change in the repos perhaps? I haven't checked but I thought they were all a few months old |
| 20:33.46 | ed___ | board is ok. But USB driver has problem. I tried again and again but not starting |
| 20:34.10 | pidpawel | GeorgeIoak: You were the one who wanted brom dump? |
| 20:34.36 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: well, I have run out of ideas and now I also need to go to sleep |
| 20:41.37 | ed___ | thank you good bye |
| 20:41.38 | GeorgeIoak | ssvb: last question, do you think it's because i'm not using hdmi output? |
| 20:42.18 | ssvb | GeorgeIoak: no, there seems to be just something wrong with the libraries and symlinks |
| 20:43.04 | mashku | mnemoc, no keyboard does not work |
| 20:47.12 | mashku | mnemoc, logitrch-djreceive: claimed by neither input, hiddev nor hidraw |
| 20:47.26 | mashku | mnemoc, logi_dj_probe: hid_hw_start returned error |
| 20:48.45 | mashku | but I guess input should take it over |
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| 21:15.54 | mashku | mnemoc, ok keyboard solved hidraw was needed |
| 21:16.11 | mashku | my cubieboard does not see my sata hard drive |
| 21:16.13 | mashku | :( |
| 21:16.22 | Pedro | Hello, can someone tell me where I can get this from within the UK, i am looking for a Cubieboard 1gb version? |
| 21:16.37 | mashku | Pedro, I ordered from china and it took 1 week |
| 21:17.03 | Pedro | Mashku, I assume your from UK too? |
| 21:17.14 | mashku | Pedro, no |
| 21:17.29 | mashku | Pedro, cannot people in UK buy from China / |
| 21:18.49 | Pedro | Any idea when this will come back in stock? |
| 21:18.50 | Pedro | https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard%20Developer%20Board |
| 21:19.26 | mashku | Pedro, I also ordered from the same website and it was in stock one day, another was not, and then again it was..:P |
| 21:20.10 | Pedro | So, it is not very accurate or does all the stock get blown in one day?!? |
| 21:20.35 | mashku | I dont know, my friend from Berlin also got one, after me, but he had to wait one day |
| 21:22.04 | Pedro | What is the board quality like? Is it anygood at normal day to day internet browsing? |
| 21:25.16 | Pedro | What is the board quality like? Is it anygood at normal day to day internet browsing? |
| 21:26.19 | mnemoc | tom said miniand first got a 100 pieces batch, and then another 200 |
| 21:28.26 | Pedro | How often do they restock |
| 21:30.19 | mnemoc | read the topic |
| 21:30.48 | Pedro | what topic? |
| 21:31.00 | mnemoc | channel's topic |
| 21:31.31 | Pedro | This is my first time on freenode and i have no idea where it is |
| 21:31.44 | mnemoc | probably on the title of this window |
| 21:32.04 | Pedro | Is it this? |
| 21:32.06 | Pedro | [SOLD OUT - NEXT AFTER THE SPRING FESTIVAL - http://cubieboard.org - http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard - logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23cubieboard/] |
| 21:32.12 | mnemoc | yes |
| 21:32.43 | Pedro | When is spring festivel? |
| 21:32.57 | mnemoc | ask google ;-) |
| 21:33.19 | Pedro | 1-5 March? |
| 21:33.24 | f1r3 | is it same as chinese new year, or another thing ? |
| 21:33.37 | mnemoc | f1r3: same |
| 21:33.46 | mnemoc | google knows that too |
| 21:35.10 | Pedro | 1-5 March |
| 21:35.51 | mnemoc | Pedro: your google-fu is awful |
| 21:35.52 | Pedro | ???? |
| 21:36.57 | Pedro | Please can I have a straight answer? |
| 21:37.34 | mnemoc | next batch will go into manufacturing after CNY holidays |
| 21:41.36 | *** topic/#cubieboard by ChanServ -> SOLD OUT - NEXT AFTER THE SPRING FESTIVAL (CNY) - http://cubieboard.org - http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard - logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23cubieboard/ |
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