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| 05:47.33 | lawrence | @Buzz - i was the commenter |
| 05:47.39 | lawrence | (on thingiverse) |
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| 06:08.05 | dongs | sup |
| 06:09.58 | lawrence | i have almost finished my writeup of getting x11 and marginally faster gfx going |
| 06:10.06 | lawrence | just need to repeat from scratch |
| 06:10.17 | lawrence | http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php/topic,30.msg105.html#msg105 |
| 06:10.21 | lawrence | yes, its rather basic |
| 06:10.27 | lawrence | but its not aimed at you ;) |
| 06:11.21 | rm | echo 1080000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq |
| 06:11.21 | rm | echo 1080000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq |
| 06:11.23 | rm | wtf |
| 06:11.32 | rm | this will mean no usable frequency |
| 06:11.41 | rm | I dunno what it will actually do in such case |
| 06:11.47 | dongs | smoked. |
| 06:12.11 | lawrence | you want a 3 instead? |
| 06:12.18 | lawrence | 1080000 seems fine |
| 06:12.38 | rm | "I want"? |
| 06:13.32 | lawrence | and of course the multiple - these are unfinished notes. |
| 06:13.53 | rm | there is no 1080000 in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies |
| 06:14.01 | rm | you just copied from http://linux-sunxi.org/Cpufreq |
| 06:14.11 | rm | without any understanding why I have 1080 there |
| 06:14.34 | rm | "let's just put min=max, can't be bad, right" |
| 06:14.37 | rm | wrong |
| 06:14.40 | lawrence | no |
| 06:14.42 | lawrence | anyway |
| 06:14.47 | rm | max there is chosen as a bogus value that doesn't actually exist |
| 06:16.19 | lawrence | i picked from arch/arm/mach-sun4i/cpu-freq |
| 06:16.21 | lawrence | actualyl |
| 06:16.29 | lawrence | form the kernel code |
| 06:18.13 | lawrence | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.02 | rm | picked what? |
| 06:19.12 | lawrence | i love that the fex can be overridden by kernel settings in the driver anyway |
| 06:19.52 | rm | #Set some more reasonable cpu defaults <- this is all from http://linux-sunxi.org/Cpufreq, except one number changed w/o any insight into how or why |
| 06:20.04 | rm | don't take this as accusation that you copy "other people's" content |
| 06:20.12 | rm | it's a wiki and is intended to be used this way |
| 06:20.19 | lawrence | no, i definitely pulled stuff off the wiki |
| 06:20.30 | rm | so you don't have to hide the used source |
| 06:20.33 | lawrence | but i don't like accusation i don't know what i'm talking about |
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| 06:20.53 | rm | echo 1080000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq |
| 06:20.53 | rm | echo 1080000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq |
| 06:20.56 | rm | ^ this makes no sense |
| 06:21.03 | rm | there is no "1080000" |
| 06:21.06 | rm | not in arch/arm/mach-sun4i/cpu-freq |
| 06:21.09 | rm | not anywhere |
| 06:21.23 | w00tc0d3 | rm: at all; maxing CPU freqs is damn stupid |
| 06:21.24 | lawrence | only makes sense #1 if there is ondemand or ladder scaling_governor anyway |
| 06:21.29 | rm | it's a value that *I personally* made up, to be "something random, a bit higher than the value we need it to use" |
| 06:21.33 | rm | that's how I know :) |
| 06:21.39 | rm | w00tc0d3, correct |
| 06:22.05 | rm | lawrence, so you took that random value and stuck it to also be "min_freq", w/o realizing it doesn't exist |
| 06:22.08 | w00tc0d3 | rm: not so energy saving :P |
| 06:22.17 | rm | and NB: 1080000 != 1008000 |
| 06:22.23 | rm | maybe you were looking for the latter? |
| 06:22.32 | lawrence | yes i am |
| 06:22.35 | lawrence | and thats a typo |
| 06:22.48 | lawrence | http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php/topic,24.0.html |
| 06:23.06 | lawrence | as the 1008000 is what i was putting |
| 06:23.20 | lawrence | and yes, i know its not so energy saving, as i specifically note that |
| 06:23.36 | rm | also |
| 06:23.44 | rm | just set the damn thing to "performance" if you want that |
| 06:23.48 | rm | and nuke the rest of the lines |
| 06:23.53 | lawrence | Yes, I know that |
| 06:24.00 | lawrence | and i note that |
| 06:24.27 | lawrence | the min / max is only relevant for the ondemand |
| 06:24.31 | lawrence | for performance, not |
| 06:24.36 | lawrence | which i do clearly state |
| 06:24.55 | lawrence | and go on to discuss for people reading that page |
| 06:25.05 | rm | setting max=min eliminates any reason to use ondemand |
| 06:25.29 | lawrence | I'll explain |
| 06:25.31 | rm | with max=min other tunables like up_threshold and sampling_down_factor make zero sense |
| 06:26.01 | lawrence | not every kernel i've been seeing out there has all the governors built im |
| 06:26.10 | rm | b/s |
| 06:26.14 | rm | performance is always built in |
| 06:26.18 | rm | of all things |
| 06:26.25 | rm | you always have 'performance' |
| 06:26.31 | rm | may not have others, yeah |
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| 06:27.23 | lawrence | so to be safe, I do that for the ones i've been testing as not all have all governors, but i have seen all with ondemand so far |
| 06:27.35 | lawrence | most probably as the sunxi includes that as default .config for kernel |
| 06:27.50 | lawrence | so that is why i have tended to add that even though its not needed |
| 06:28.12 | lawrence | also, i do explain why i do X |
| 06:28.28 | lawrence | and not to copy my X as its unique to my current usage |
| 06:28.41 | lawrence | good, you picked up the typo for 1008000 |
| 06:28.45 | lawrence | i'm fixing that now |
| 06:28.59 | lawrence | it was more about the video side though. |
| 06:29.15 | lawrence | but yes, get nit picky, so i can fix errata |
| 06:29.22 | lawrence | and then everyone is happier. |
| 06:30.56 | rm | actually I was a bit mistaken, we did not have 1080 in the wiki, we used 1030 for that |
| 06:31.24 | lawrence | the 1080 is a typo, it is as you corrected me 10080000 |
| 06:31.30 | lawrence | so you are correct |
| 06:31.36 | lawrence | and i've amended that |
| 06:33.41 | lawrence | the next thing in there you'll probably note is the sunxifb stuff isn't quite right for config. |
| 06:33.53 | lawrence | thats due to me not finishing that yet notewise. |
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| 06:34.36 | lawrence | oh, and roman |
| 06:34.42 | lawrence | https://github.com/mortaromarcello/linux_allwinner_arch_arm_mach-sun4i_cpu-freq/blob/master/cpu-freq.h |
| 06:34.50 | lawrence | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.04 | lawrence | thats where the 100800000 comes from… |
| 06:35.32 | lawrence | (although not that repo), but the file most definitely has it in there |
| 06:43.31 | rm | it's still 1008.... not 1080.... |
| 06:44.43 | lawrence | yes, that was a typo |
| 06:44.57 | lawrence | and i have even noted that in the page |
| 06:45.04 | lawrence | echo 1008000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq #roman smacked me for making a typo here 1080000 != 1008000 |
| 06:45.14 | lawrence | good catch |
| 06:45.29 | lawrence | as it was working on my cubie's but yes, it was incorrect |
| 06:46.57 | lawrence | so now you can say, ok that *corrected value* is indeed in the arch/arm/mach-sun4i/cpu-freq like you said. |
| 06:47.09 | lawrence | ducks |
| 06:47.11 | lawrence | :) |
| 06:51.58 | rm | remove the comment, please |
| 06:52.17 | rm | it's not appropriate in a brief instruction and detracts from purpose |
| 06:52.54 | lawrence | you are no fun |
| 06:53.10 | lawrence | i have amended it |
| 06:53.19 | lawrence | its light hearted jesting / humour |
| 06:53.21 | lawrence | nothing serious |
| 06:53.41 | rm | well to be honest, I also don't like how it would imply that I approve the rest of the post |
| 06:54.20 | lawrence | its already removed |
| 06:54.26 | rm | e.g. you now set it to 'performance' |
| 06:54.29 | rm | which is okay |
| 06:54.39 | rm | ...but then change tunables of ondemand |
| 06:54.47 | rm | ("...wat") |
| 06:54.56 | lawrence | yes, and i have explained the reasons for that |
| 06:56.17 | lawrence | as i don't know what governors are compiled into random persons kernel, so i have put things in which don't necessarily make sense for say a performance governor. |
| 06:56.35 | rm | ok |
| 06:57.02 | lawrence | and i have a page which explicitly says that |
| 06:57.18 | lawrence | and explains what / why |
| 06:57.35 | lawrence | so, don't assume i don't understand and just blindly copy paste |
| 06:57.40 | lawrence | i do have valid reasons |
| 06:58.09 | rm | maybe you need to clarify more in the script |
| 06:58.17 | lawrence | if you think i need to put in a full description of why i did that in that page, i probably wouldn't, i'd link to the cpu freq page |
| 06:58.33 | lawrence | again, those are notes, not final revision |
| 06:58.55 | lawrence | so getting nit picky about a minor part isn't really a valuable use of time |
| 06:59.13 | lawrence | although you did point out a valid typo, and i have amended that |
| 06:59.17 | lawrence | so thank you. |
| 07:00.04 | lawrence | i'm trying to make this more accessible to others, which is why i write it up |
| 07:00.42 | lawrence | yes, there is the wiki, but there is a lot of information that needs understanding of why X+y+z, so my writeups are intended to simplify the process for newbies. |
| 07:01.41 | lawrence | i'm grateful that you spent lots of months already making kernel etc with others. |
| 07:01.58 | lawrence | but, thats where i come from anglewise. |
| 07:02.21 | rm | lawrence, I like your X11 howto more than the mess that's on http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400 |
| 07:03.09 | lawrence | once i'm done, someone can freely copy onto the wiki. |
| 07:03.13 | lawrence | its not ready yet though |
| 07:05.36 | icCE | rm simple change ondemand on performance :) |
| 07:05.57 | icCE | is the right way |
| 07:06.53 | rm | discuss that with lawrence :) |
| 07:07.04 | rm | personally I'm fine with using ondemand |
| 07:07.15 | icCE | Ж) |
| 07:07.17 | icCE | :) |
| 07:07.19 | rm | with 408...1008 and tunables for faster ramp-up |
| 07:07.25 | rm | it doesn't slow anything down |
| 07:07.25 | icCE | rm rc.local for dunkers : ) |
| 07:07.41 | lawrence | i think better to explain there are different settings for cpu frequency |
| 07:07.50 | lawrence | for desktop performance |
| 07:07.58 | lawrence | for battery its ondemand typically |
| 07:08.01 | lawrence | and cpu scales up |
| 07:08.22 | lawrence | and provide settings per scenario |
| 07:08.29 | lawrence | rather than do X |
| 07:08.50 | icCE | lawrence there is a separate configuration file, where we define cpu |
| 07:09.10 | lawrence | i'm talking about the wiki page |
| 07:09.23 | icCE | OOk! |
| 07:09.37 | lawrence | i'd also mention kernel config too in there, eg compiling in the different governors |
| 07:10.26 | lawrence | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.33 | lawrence | you know what also might be better |
| 07:11.42 | lawrence | do it with sysctl |
| 07:11.48 | lawrence | in the example |
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| 08:12.16 | pidpawel | just arrived :) |
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| 08:29.21 | pidpawel | hmm. strange. i conected cubie to computer screen and evrything is pink. |
| 08:29.53 | pidpawel | when I click something on the screen (android boots normally) evrything disappears |
| 08:40.49 | cybin | is it your first run? |
| 08:46.27 | rm | there's someone on the forum with the same problem |
| 08:46.28 | pidpawel | yes. |
| 08:46.53 | pidpawel | forum… why havent i been there? ;) |
| 08:47.10 | rm | https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/?place=forum%2Fcubieboard#!category-topic/cubieboard/hardware-issue/Cw4Kmn2DgCE |
| 08:47.23 | rm | > The pre-installed image is for factory testing. It is not very useful for much else. |
| 08:50.07 | cybin | pidpawel: it is configured to use 720p. probably your display does not support it. you will have to connect it to a TV first. |
| 08:50.18 | pidpawel | thanks for link. ill try to boot another os |
| 08:50.32 | pidpawel | cybin: maybe. but thats evrything i have. |
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| 09:07.19 | shineworld | I hope for next shipment to get one piece... I've missed previous two stocks... |
| 09:08.14 | dongs | lets see where mine is |
| 09:08.53 | shineworld | have you pre-ordered ? |
| 09:09.04 | shineworld | or are just a lucky boy? :) |
| 09:10.15 | dongs | picked up one in shenzhen yesterday |
| 09:10.25 | dongs | should be landing here any hour now, then at my place next day |
| 09:10.41 | lawrence | you in shenzhen? |
| 09:10.46 | lawrence | i thought you were in .jp |
| 09:10.55 | dongs | no but our suppliers and stuff are |
| 09:10.57 | lawrence | shenzhen = shopping |
| 09:13.00 | f1r3 | <3 |
| 09:13.11 | dongs | lucked out before month worth of coma |
| 09:14.18 | dongs | didnt even pay too much for it. i think ~same as 'deluxe' kit on dickstarter. |
| 09:14.48 | lawrence | is around 320-350rmb for the board + casing + usb cables + pl2303 |
| 09:14.50 | shineworld | dongs, have you pre-ordered your board in some site to have one ? |
| 09:14.50 | dongs | or 'rich package' or wahtever. which is what im getting i think |
| 09:15.15 | dongs | lawrence: yea, thats wat it was + 120-ish shipping by SF to here |
| 09:15.16 | lawrence | i reckon hipboi should have stuck a sd card adaptor + small sd in there also and raised the price slightly |
| 09:15.24 | lawrence | plus maybe a CD of source |
| 09:15.29 | lawrence | and make it 400rmb odd |
| 09:15.34 | lawrence | as thats nicer for end users |
| 09:15.44 | lawrence | yeah, japan is cheap to ship to. |
| 09:15.57 | lawrence | i may actually hassle you for arcade parts at some point :) |
| 09:16.01 | dongs | shineworld: no just had a friend pickup. |
| 09:16.11 | dongs | pfft, probably cheaper to clone that in china. |
| 09:16.14 | lawrence | as japan has goodies that i can't get so easily here |
| 09:16.25 | lawrence | i'm a bit of a purist on some things |
| 09:16.42 | lawrence | eg i'd rather have an original dodonpachi board |
| 09:16.53 | lawrence | or other cave board than a knockoff |
| 09:17.40 | dongs | heh, speaking of useless shit, we actually did the pcbs for these guys: http://www.retrocollect.com/News/the-missing-in-action-mr-splash-nintendo-nes-famicom-rom-finally-surfaces-online.html |
| 09:18.08 | dongs | i think they later ended up selling the cartridge+book+dvd for a lot of $ |
| 09:18.19 | dongs | limited edition stuff. |
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| 09:20.02 | pidpawel | hmm. berryboot seems to be working well :) |
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| 09:46.34 | pidpawel | how can i change resolution of hdmi output? |
| 09:51.56 | pidpawel | ok. i think i found it ;) |
| 09:54.06 | pidpawel | oh. what a pity. it has difficulties with running my screen native resolution (2048x1152) |
| 09:54.53 | buZz | yes only a limited list of resolutions is supported |
| 09:55.50 | shineworld | what os are you running ? |
| 09:55.55 | buZz | but it SHOULD get better in time |
| 09:56.48 | pidpawel | linaro ubuntu from berryboot |
| 09:57.14 | pidpawel | but it's just a testing placeholder while ill prepare gentoo ;) |
| 09:58.10 | shineworld | I will use it with android when I will able to have one :) |
| 09:59.19 | shineworld | At this moment I'm using a nexus 7 for industrial human machine interface but we will use a custom board at finish |
| 09:59.31 | rm | > linaro ubuntu from berryboot |
| 09:59.40 | rm | this is just three huge WTFs right there |
| 09:59.42 | rm | for me |
| 09:59.46 | rm | ok maybe ubuntu a bit less :) |
| 09:59.54 | shineworld | I don't know if cubie could be 100% usable in industrial range but is a good start point |
| 10:00.27 | pidpawel | ok. next issue. right now I'm powering cb from USB OTG. when I'm trying to connect the original usb->dc cable it just blinks red led for a moment and stops. is that an issue described in indiegogo update? |
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| 10:01.38 | buZz | hehe cubieboard is hardly ment for this |
| 10:01.50 | buZz | also, with so many issues reported, its bizar ppl would consider it :D |
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| 10:04.42 | Dave77 | is there anyway to control the onboard LEDs from a script? |
| 10:08.13 | buZz | yes |
| 10:08.18 | buZz | enable gpio for those pins |
| 10:08.55 | buZz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/cubieboard/gpio$20leds/cubieboard/SPHsSUorvUg/HUuwf6AR6v8J |
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| 10:21.55 | imRance | is it possible to cross compile gentoo for cubieboard, and where can i start, for example, where can i get kernel patch. sorry about my fool english |
| 10:22.47 | pidpawel | ill i.e. probably try to prepare sdcard with stage3 and /boot from some existing cb distro. |
| 10:29.34 | buZz | imRance: get linux-sunxi kernel from github, make armhf rootfs for gentoo, mix match read docs, should work |
| 10:32.39 | imRance | pidpawel: this's a nice way!! |
| 10:33.52 | imRance | buZz: thanks so much, that all i need, you are my light! |
| 10:34.07 | buZz | i get that a lot :P |
| 10:34.09 | buZz | hehe |
| 10:36.19 | weltall | pidpawel, i've the same issue |
| 10:36.33 | pidpawel | weltall: pink screen? |
| 10:36.58 | pidpawel | just try another distro. evrything is now working fine ;) |
| 10:37.02 | weltall | no the usb/dc one |
| 10:37.21 | weltall | but it works with a psp dc adapter |
| 10:37.23 | pidpawel | oh. that is still unresolved ;P |
| 10:37.35 | weltall | so prolly the power from usb isn't enough |
| 10:37.42 | pidpawel | it has the right plug? |
| 10:37.52 | weltall | yes it's even suggested in the wiki |
| 10:37.59 | weltall | (i didn't buy it for this XD) |
| 10:38.13 | weltall | gonna try with my 5V2A usb psu |
| 10:38.31 | imRance | github banned often at(in....) mainland, so sad. anyway, thank you. |
| 10:38.55 | pidpawel | oh. so ill have to remember to take it when im next time home ;) |
| 10:40.24 | weltall | nope |
| 10:40.29 | weltall | with the 5V2A usb psu i've the same behaviour |
| 10:40.47 | weltall | an usb cable done to power the psp doesn't light the red led at all instead |
| 10:41.12 | buZz | some usb powercables that are being sent are broken |
| 10:41.20 | buZz | Tom sent email about this to the mailinglist |
| 10:44.07 | weltall | not a biggie, but discovered my psp usb+power cable is broken as well XD |
| 10:52.46 | imRance | i was wondering, what's the sunxi means? it looks like "孙喜" in Chinese. |
| 10:53.24 | lawrence | happy bud? |
| 10:53.38 | lawrence | where does it say sunxi in chinese, i'll take a look |
| 10:53.46 | lawrence | 孙 means bud/flower |
| 10:54.05 | qermit | bud? |
| 10:54.09 | buZz | eh |
| 10:54.27 | qermit | is bud some kind of flower? |
| 10:54.31 | buZz | sunxi , replace X with version number |
| 10:54.32 | lawrence | he just pasted sooon (sun) 孙 |
| 10:54.48 | buZz | sun3i, sun4i, sun5i, cubieboard is sun4i |
| 10:54.57 | imRance | i been puzzled few days..... |
| 10:54.59 | lawrence | and 恭喜的 喜 |
| 10:55.06 | lawrence | doesn't seem like its correct to me |
| 10:55.07 | buZz | wtf8 |
| 10:55.12 | lawrence | where do you see that in chinese? |
| 10:55.17 | buZz | please stick to 7bit ascii |
| 10:55.38 | lawrence | pfft. learn some 8bit mr needs to amend his plastic box about 3mm ;) |
| 10:55.41 | qermit | utf8++ |
| 10:55.47 | imRance | i'm trying to understand this words..... |
| 10:59.05 | lawrence | what words? |
| 10:59.22 | lawrence | as i'm not sure what you are trying to understand is correct translation anyway |
| 11:07.25 | imRance | 就是我在努力解理你们说的话，主要是关于名称的，但好像我的中文影响了大家 |
| 11:08.58 | imRance | lawrence: did you eat?吃了没？ |
| 11:11.14 | lawrence | 还么有 |
| 11:12.45 | imRance | has yet? go home eat，这好像是不见不散的台词儿:-D |
| 11:13.08 | imRance | just joke |
| 11:14.04 | lawrence | 在公司有事情所以没办法 |
| 11:15.42 | buZz | great way to kill a channel yes |
| 11:18.25 | imRance | O:-) sorry buZz |
| 11:18.36 | rm | 中国的语言是很难的 |
| 11:18.41 | lawrence | 不好意思 :D |
| 11:18.46 | rm | I know zero of it |
| 11:19.01 | lawrence | we can do russian if you need ;) |
| 11:19.17 | lawrence | well, actually we can once a colleague is back, we have a russian in the office. |
| 11:19.24 | rm | even google translate can't understand chinese properly |
| 11:19.29 | rm | sometimes |
| 11:20.43 | lawrence | sed s/sometimes/lots/g |
| 11:35.29 | mnemoc | imRance: I was told they pronounce sunxi as sun-cha-i |
| 11:35.38 | mnemoc | or something like that |
| 11:36.04 | lawrence | i should just look at the chinese doc's, will be clearer |
| 11:36.17 | lawrence | A10 is from BoxChip in Taiwan originally, no? |
| 11:37.49 | mnemoc | it might be a join vernture. i know the founders of allwinner were from action semiconductors, also in zhuhai |
| 11:38.14 | lawrence | i really need to head back to zhuhai this year |
| 11:38.15 | mnemoc | but sun3i (F14/F20...) are branded boxchip |
| 11:38.19 | lawrence | if only to sell my apt there |
| 11:38.26 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:38.37 | lawrence | over near gongbei |
| 11:39.02 | mnemoc | how's the air there compared to the other chinese cities? |
| 11:39.10 | lawrence | zhuhai is quite nice actually |
| 11:39.12 | lawrence | decent beaches |
| 11:39.17 | lawrence | good food / weather |
| 11:39.23 | lawrence | its tropical |
| 11:39.42 | lawrence | the honkies complain about the pollution, but its a billion times better than upcountry. |
| 11:39.49 | lawrence | seafood galore there |
| 11:41.57 | lawrence | looks like boxchip copied the SoChip stuff |
| 11:42.06 | lawrence | lots of intermingling at some point |
| 11:42.22 | lawrence | which is why lots of features are similar in a lot of SoC's |
| 11:42.33 | lawrence | eg ChinaChip et al… |
| 11:44.05 | lawrence | ooh, found some history here - http://www.iboum.com/artkill/chipsets.php |
| 11:48.14 | lawrence | interestingly the first thing i see on SoChips home page is the quad core AllWinner one.. |
| 11:48.54 | lawrence | so everyone still is intermingled. |
| 11:49.16 | lawrence | i'd guess SoChip / AllWinner / BoxChip all subsiduaries of one company |
| 11:51.31 | mnemoc | axp is made by x-powers which is also from the same |
| 11:51.51 | mnemoc | and the original source dump (2.6.37) had different company names on every subsystem |
| 11:51.56 | lawrence | yup, that i know |
| 11:52.00 | lawrence | knew |
| 11:54.41 | lawrence | gotta run, leaving my lapper at occif. |
| 11:54.46 | lawrence | drink night :) |
| 11:57.23 | mnemoc | enjoy |
| 11:59.49 | cybin | i'm still looking for how to enable CEC support in android. any hints, points, clues? |
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| 12:07.57 | mnemoc | no one knows how to use the CEC support on A10 |
| 12:09.01 | cybin | mnemoc: unfortunately, yes. even allwinner doesn't seem to know that. i've contacted them and they said, that there is no documentation for the hdmi controller available. :( |
| 12:12.57 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 12:13.02 | RaYmAn | you have to wonder how they make their chips :P |
| 12:13.15 | cybin | i do.... i do... |
| 12:13.18 | RaYmAn | just grab random IP from web and stuff it all together and hope it all works? :P |
| 12:14.18 | jammi | pretty much, just grab a reference design, and send it to a chip plant |
| 12:14.24 | cybin | "A10/A10s all can support CEC, but now we have not more documentation about that." that's their answer. |
| 12:15.08 | jammi | some others go trough much more trouble ensuring various aspects are working perfectly |
| 12:16.09 | cybin | at least, they must know a model number, or manufacturer, or similar. they can't just have nothing at all. |
| 12:17.06 | RaYmAn | there has been some speculation that some of the IP used is unlicensed |
| 12:17.16 | RaYmAn | which would explain the lack of documentation =P |
| 12:17.37 | cybin | :D |
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| 12:21.20 | PolyTicks | Can anyone here answer how I can know if I have a bad cable? If I use a single cable, 5V 2A, from a computer the power LED lights up and the Ethernet lights indicates traffic, but there's no life. No HDMI output, no controlled shutdown by holding the power button, no ADB interface if I add the second cable later. Any ideas? What's bad about the cables? |
| 12:26.05 | pidpawel | where can i fine the list of supported video modes? |
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| 12:26.31 | pidpawel | PolyTicks: have you tried usb otg power? |
| 12:28.02 | PolyTicks | yes, and it behaves the same way |
| 12:28.12 | PolyTicks | if I use both OTG and the power coord it works |
| 12:28.13 | mnemoc | pidpawel: see the F18 support announcement mail for details about using EDID |
| 12:28.28 | PolyTicks | unless it gets too high load |
| 12:28.41 | mnemoc | PolyTicks: have you tried a multitester to see if the cable works? |
| 12:28.50 | PolyTicks | e.g. installing an application when HDMI is attached |
| 12:29.28 | PolyTicks | yeah, the cable gives me 5V 2A from the computer and 5V 1.5A from the charger I'm hoping to be able to use |
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| 12:34.01 | Dave77 | is cubiebox_tvbox_rel2.img the image that shipped with cubieboard in january? |
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| 12:44.59 | pidpawel | hm. is there a way of getting documentation for CAN controller in A10? |
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| 12:47.43 | buZz | did you read the datasheet? |
| 12:48.04 | buZz | http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/A10/ |
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| 12:51.25 | pidpawel | actually not. i only found a topic on forum saying that thare is a can controller but we actually do know nothing about this because of lack of documentation |
| 12:51.37 | buZz | nice |
| 12:53.07 | buZz | ok |
| 12:53.16 | mnemoc | if you have a $$$project$$$ that requires CAN you might be able to convince allwinner to share some info... |
| 12:53.20 | buZz | had a quick browse through docs, seems there is indeed 0 docs about CAN |
| 12:53.33 | mnemoc | we know the pinmuxes :) |
| 12:53.50 | mnemoc | also for the gps! |
| 12:54.12 | mnemoc | but for the gps we are a bit better, there is a .ko |
| 12:54.20 | mnemoc | with debugging symbols |
| 12:55.42 | pidpawel | hardly 0. we know the interrupt number, address space, and description of 1 or 2 registers |
| 12:56.02 | pidpawel | i dont have $$$project$$$. i just want to play with it. ;) |
| 12:57.36 | buZz | why arent you playing with it already then? :P |
| 12:58.37 | mnemoc | pidpawel: writting down a http://linux-sunxi.org/CAN might be a good start ;-) |
| 12:59.07 | pidpawel | mnemoc: right now i dont have anything meaningul to write there. ;) |
| 12:59.33 | mnemoc | pidpawel: "we know the interrupt number, address space, and description of 1 or 2 registers" |
| 13:00.22 | mnemoc | that counts as meaningful |
| 13:00.32 | pidpawel | it's in the docs. :> |
| 13:00.59 | buZz | pidpawel: documentation! |
| 13:01.00 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/CAN is clearer than diving into leaked docs and .h files :p |
| 13:02.21 | mnemoc | (same for all IPs) |
| 13:07.11 | pidpawel | hmm. googling for even topics like "alwinner a10 board CAN bus" returns nothing helpful |
| 13:07.43 | mnemoc | fix that writting down the existing knowledge in http://linux-sunxi.org/CAN ;-) |
| 13:09.34 | pidpawel | btw - who is maintaining this wiki? |
| 13:10.50 | mnemoc | people from here and from #arm-netbook mostly |
| 13:11.32 | pidpawel | http://linux-sunxi.org/A10/disp thats the documentation style im looking for :D |
| 13:11.58 | mnemoc | that's oliv3r's work |
| 13:13.20 | pidpawel | ok. but cubie have to wait. right now i have to get back to studying :) |
| 13:14.38 | buZz | booooooo |
| 13:16.07 | PolyTicks | anyone else with power problems? |
| 13:16.13 | pidpawel | again a nice but useless link http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/A10_register_guide/ |
| 13:16.17 | pidpawel | PolyTicks: yep. me. |
| 13:17.18 | PolyTicks | pidpawel: how does you problem manifest themselves? |
| 13:18.06 | pidpawel | original power cable makes cb blink once and dead. ;) |
| 13:18.13 | pidpawel | i power mine from OTG |
| 13:18.21 | pidpawel | s/from/using/ |
| 13:18.36 | pidpawel | thx ibot |
| 13:18.43 | buZz | my cable just worked :P |
| 13:18.59 | pidpawel | happy you ;) |
| 13:19.14 | pidpawel | ill check it with multimeter later |
| 13:19.37 | PolyTicks | pidpawel: but powering with OTG fixes your problem? |
| 13:19.56 | PolyTicks | I've checked mine with a multimeter, the cable semes fine, but the unit still just blinks and dies |
| 13:19.58 | pidpawel | for now. yes. |
| 13:20.11 | PolyTicks | are you using HDMI? |
| 13:20.27 | pidpawel | yes. |
| 13:21.49 | PolyTicks | my board doesn't work as well as yours then :( |
| 13:22.05 | pidpawel | do you have pink screen? |
| 13:22.08 | PolyTicks | if I use only OTG I get no ADB interface |
| 13:22.12 | PolyTicks | no, no HDMI at all |
| 13:22.25 | pidpawel | do you use a tv or computer screen? |
| 13:22.28 | buZz | does your screen support 1280x720x60hz? |
| 13:22.44 | PolyTicks | Projector that supports that resolution |
| 13:23.00 | PolyTicks | I can get it to work by plugging both my power cable AND the OTG cable |
| 13:23.09 | pidpawel | does projector have hdmi or dvi input? |
| 13:23.18 | PolyTicks | but heavy loads gives me a pinkish screen |
| 13:23.28 | pidpawel | very stange. |
| 13:23.32 | PolyTicks | purple |
| 13:23.36 | PolyTicks | HDMI |
| 13:24.01 | buZz | so, green disconnects on load? |
| 13:24.12 | pidpawel | i changed os and pink screen issue has gone |
| 13:24.15 | PolyTicks | green disconnects? |
| 13:24.26 | buZz | did you try pushing on the HDMI connector or A10 chip ? |
| 13:24.27 | PolyTicks | pidpawel: what are you using now? |
| 13:24.35 | PolyTicks | I did not |
| 13:24.40 | buZz | yes, pink/purple screen = no green |
| 13:24.41 | pidpawel | ubuntu linaro from berryboot |
| 13:24.43 | PolyTicks | but I get no green LED while the board is working |
| 13:24.47 | buZz | thats fine |
| 13:24.50 | buZz | green LED says nothing |
| 13:25.03 | PolyTicks | I thought so, just wanted to make sure :) |
| 13:25.13 | buZz | :) |
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| 13:25.24 | buZz | but it seems some cubieboards are badly soldered |
| 13:25.36 | PolyTicks | but the display, it's not lacking in green, it's turning all purple |
| 13:25.46 | PolyTicks | and the entire board has frozen |
| 13:25.49 | buZz | ah ok |
| 13:26.06 | buZz | 14:24:29 < pidpawel> i changed os and pink screen issue has gone |
| 13:26.10 | buZz | you should try that |
| 13:26.19 | buZz | grab SD card, write some image with current hwpack |
| 13:26.20 | buZz | and boot |
| 13:26.36 | jammi | PolyTicks: your monitor isn't yuv |
| 13:26.59 | PolyTicks | buZz: ok, I'll try that tonigth, but I'm using the recommended image when it happens |
| 13:27.18 | PolyTicks | jammi: yuv? |
| 13:27.24 | jammi | that's what happens when your display expects rgb |
| 13:27.59 | PolyTicks | oh, but the colors aren't dissorted, it's just that it clears into purple when the card freezes |
| 13:28.32 | buZz | PolyTicks: wow wtf |
| 13:28.39 | buZz | there is a recommended image???? |
| 13:29.00 | PolyTicks | recommended Android image, that is |
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| 14:21.00 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks |
| 14:21.06 | SquirrelCZECH | hope you are doing well ;-) |
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| 15:07.25 | Dave77 | is there a guide as to how the livesuit works? do I have to press any buttons the cubie? |
| 15:07.54 | Dave77 | trying to fix nand partition.. goes to cursor now but nothing works |
| 15:08.02 | PolyTicks | Hold the button under the OTG mini usb, turn on the device |
| 15:08.10 | PolyTicks | it should now show up under devices in windows |
| 15:08.33 | PolyTicks | plug it in while running livesuit |
| 15:08.57 | PolyTicks | I'm afraid I have to run now, but hopefully that helps you in the right direction |
| 15:09.06 | Dave77 | ty |
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| 15:20.27 | Dave77 | is there any other way apart from livesuit to upload android? |
| 15:21.51 | Dave77 | what is the newest version of livesuit? |
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| 15:40.30 | Baikonur | usb is hard |
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| 16:21.12 | Dave77 | has anybody seen 2mm solderless breadboards? |
| 16:24.37 | pirea | lawrence i can use vga pins from cubieboard for output? |
| 16:24.48 | pirea | without sftware |
| 16:25.06 | pirea | i think i can set this from uEnv.txt , is it? |
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| 16:33.25 | pirea | Somebody know if this works? |
| 16:36.40 | RavenII | Is there an ETA on when the board will be back in stock? Or somewhere that's updated with a timeframe? |
| 16:37.01 | jammi | topic. |
| 16:37.18 | RavenII | Offff?..course |
| 16:37.22 | RavenII | Sorry. |
| 16:44.46 | RavenII | So?(again, even though the answers will be biased) is there a similar solution (price/specs) that will allow me to do simple things like NAS, small file serving, etc? |
| 16:45.01 | RavenII | or is the Cubie the best way to go? (I'm thinking that it is the best)... |
| 16:48.51 | mnemoc | marvell plug computers are for that |
| 16:49.09 | mnemoc | but not on the cubie's price range |
| 16:50.40 | RA3OR | are we allowed to talk about other boards? or is against the rules? |
| 16:50.57 | mnemoc | #arm-netbook is board neutral |
| 16:51.03 | grog | lots of 'simple NAS' solutions, depends on your requirements... anything from a HD with an ethernet port, to slightly more powerful ones that run linux and can do some downloading for you, to full-featured NAS chassis... |
| 16:51.47 | RA3OR | whats the use of a nas? |
| 16:52.21 | RA3OR | vs leaving a pc on |
| 16:52.33 | RA3OR | in a lan |
| 16:52.46 | grog | load, availability, features |
| 16:52.54 | RA3OR | lower power consumption? |
| 16:53.01 | grog | it can be, yes |
| 16:53.10 | RA3OR | what features? |
| 16:53.43 | grog | lots, look at something like http://www.freenas.org/ or http://www.openfiler.com/ |
| 16:54.40 | grog | for example, instead of leaving a 200-300W+ PC on, i can have a <10W box that can stream content to my TV, download things for me, serve FTP externally, etc |
| 16:55.11 | grog | those solutions ^^ are more full-featured, but you can balance power vs. functionality |
| 16:55.37 | RA3OR | i just dont see its use in a home |
| 16:55.47 | RA3OR | on a firm/company yes |
| 16:55.50 | grog | lol, so dont get one |
| 16:55.57 | RA3OR | im not |
| 16:56.12 | RA3OR | id rather spend the cash on ssd;s |
| 16:57.16 | RA3OR | on a small LAN of under 5 pc's I just dont see the benefit |
| 16:58.09 | grog | well |
| 16:58.14 | RavenII | RA3OR, power consumption... |
| 16:58.34 | RA3OR | I keep my pc on 24/7 anyways |
| 16:58.39 | grog | do you play games? |
| 16:58.51 | RA3OR | and I can c/p datat to my usb stick |
| 16:58.52 | RavenII | Me? no. |
| 16:59.07 | RA3OR | me? occasionally d3 and ql |
| 16:59.17 | grog | there you go |
| 16:59.23 | RA3OR | where? |
| 16:59.34 | RA3OR | ql is just under 1gb |
| 16:59.37 | RA3OR | quakelive |
| 16:59.51 | RA3OR | d3 also fits in a usb stick |
| 17:00.03 | grog | no HDs to use power and generate heat means more resources available for beefy videocard... no torrent/nzb/ftp client putting load on the system... no hw/sw RAID using more resources... |
| 17:00.24 | grog | if the game is online, packetshaping can be easily handled by the firewall |
| 17:00.46 | RA3OR | HDs? you meand drives? |
| 17:00.59 | RA3OR | hdd |
| 17:01.02 | grog | no ftp/samba/media servers on the machine, so if someone turns on the TV and starts streaming a movie, your game doesnt slow to a crawl |
| 17:01.21 | grog | yes HDs == hard drives |
| 17:01.28 | RavenII | Right, that's another thing?torrent client/nzb?etc?etc?I think the Cubie is probably my best option. |
| 17:01.29 | RA3OR | i dont stream from my pc |
| 17:02.08 | RA3OR | usb sticks, if someone wants to see a movie, they can take 5 mins for a drink while the file is copied to usb stick |
| 17:02.22 | grog | wow that is so 2003 lol |
| 17:02.58 | RA3OR | well, life has taught me that anything that comes so easily is not appreciated |
| 17:03.25 | RA3OR | a list of 200 movies on tv screen and "oh, there's nothing to see" |
| 17:03.30 | RA3OR | sounds bad |
| 17:04.05 | grog | RavenII: for casual use it would be fine but painfully slow imho... personally my downloading box is a dual xeon with 12GB RAM, u320 scsi system drives and external chassis, dual GigE, etc ;) |
| 17:04.10 | RA3OR | if you want to watch a movie, take 5 mins to make it an important 'task' |
| 17:04.54 | RA3OR | i have a little over 200 movies and I dont watch any of them |
| 17:05.08 | RA3OR | maybe one in a month or so, avg |
| 17:05.21 | RA3OR | and it takes just under 2 mins to download it |
| 17:05.32 | grog | i dont have cable TV... i have sabnzbd/sickbeard setup to download TV series i like, then i sit down and stream them |
| 17:05.43 | RA3OR | i watch tv online |
| 17:06.02 | RA3OR | but cant, no more than 2-3 hours, the ads are annoying |
| 17:06.29 | RA3OR | tv is so 80's |
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| 17:08.13 | Cy-Gor | anyone find a better deal on a small hdmi monitor than this http://www.amazon.com/Lilliput-interface-dedicated-high-definition-Koolertron/dp/B0041I8UAO/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp |
| 17:10.23 | RA3OR | wow, thats so expensive for a small monitor |
| 17:10.42 | Cy-Gor | 1080 |
| 17:10.51 | RA3OR | 7" |
| 17:11.30 | RA3OR | wonder is someone hooked up a galaxy s3 screen onto cubie |
| 17:11.31 | RA3OR | :D |
| 17:11.44 | RA3OR | or s2 |
| 17:11.56 | rm | Cy-Gor, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/N5-7-Inch-HD-Touchscreen-Car-Monitor-HDMI-AV-VGA/450362690.html |
| 17:12.08 | rm | I hope you "don't mind" this one is also a touch screen |
| 17:12.24 | Cy-Gor | lol |
| 17:12.26 | grog | native res 800x480, fail |
| 17:12.27 | rm | aaaand wtf in the world are you doing there |
| 17:12.35 | rm | just get an $55 A13 tablet |
| 17:12.50 | rm | rather than a zomgexpensive monitor+ (I assume) the cubie |
| 17:12.51 | RA3OR | o_0 |
| 17:13.08 | rm | to achieve likely pretty much the same, but a less integrated and more bulky result |
| 17:13.16 | grog | oh, the lilliput is a native 800x480 too, ha, nice how they call them "1080" |
| 17:13.43 | Cy-Gor | blarg |
| 17:13.44 | Cy-Gor | lol |
| 17:14.36 | RA3OR | when will they release those flexible oleds? |
| 17:14.42 | RA3OR | we want them already |
| 17:14.53 | Cy-Gor | the monitor would stay on my bench probably |
| 17:15.02 | mnemoc | i have that one on the aliexpress link.... but paid half of that... on chinavasion.com iirc |
| 17:15.25 | RA3OR | I dream the day I would go to the shop and buy a wallpaper like screen |
| 17:15.27 | Cy-Gor | not for a specific project |
| 17:15.34 | rm | it always surprises me, people who "want to build a tablet from cubieboard", |
| 17:15.35 | RA3OR | go home and unroll it on the wall |
| 17:15.47 | RA3OR | maybe put nails in it, on the edges :D |
| 17:16.06 | rm | when there are tablets $5 more expensive than the board |
| 17:16.14 | rm | with screen/battery/case/everything |
| 17:16.16 | Cy-Gor | lol, yeah |
| 17:16.21 | Cy-Gor | thats not my goal rm |
| 17:16.22 | RA3OR | tell me you dont share my dream? |
| 17:16.43 | rm | happines does not lie within screens, RA3OR |
| 17:16.50 | rm | not even wall-sized ones :D |
| 17:17.02 | RA3OR | not wall sized, jesus |
| 17:17.31 | RA3OR | flexible thin wallpaper like |
| 17:17.33 | RA3OR | screens |
| 17:17.54 | RA3OR | turned off it looks like translucent polimer |
| 17:18.05 | RA3OR | or nylon bags |
| 17:18.22 | RA3OR | in stand-by its a themed wallpaper |
| 17:18.26 | mnemoc | and happiness lies on translucent polimers? |
| 17:18.31 | RA3OR | turned on its a tv/monitor |
| 17:18.52 | RA3OR | mnemoc: happiness lies in everythin |
| 17:18.53 | RA3OR | g |
| 17:19.24 | RA3OR | in a kid's smile, in a blossomed flower, in a first snow |
| 17:19.49 | RA3OR | everywhere you see it |
| 17:20.11 | RA3OR | and yes, its a joy to have such a 'tv' |
| 17:20.12 | mnemoc | in the power bills... |
| 17:20.13 | RA3OR | or monitor |
| 17:20.30 | RA3OR | mnemoc: if you have thrown parties all month, yes :D |
| 17:20.40 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:21.01 | RA3OR | you would even thank them for supplying power |
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| 18:08.29 | tinti | lets see |
| 18:08.33 | tinti | ibot: fortune |
| 18:08.33 | ibot | somebody said fortune was a kickass app available for Linux. Packages are in OZ and http://frob.us/modules.php?name=Fortune lets you use fortune over the web. |
| 18:08.45 | tinti | ibot: fortune |
| 18:08.46 | ibot | from memory, fortune is a kickass app available for Linux. Packages are in OZ and http://frob.us/modules.php?name=Fortune lets you use fortune over the web. |
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| 18:12.28 | mnemoc | please, don't play with the bot here |
| 18:17.26 | tinti | mnemoc: sorry. No more playing. |
| 18:29.43 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:30.39 | Cy-Gor | lol |
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| 19:11.28 | w00tc0d3 | ibot: hello |
| 19:11.28 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
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| 19:22.46 | suhanc | re |
| 19:24.35 | RavenII | What do you guys use the cubie for? |
| 19:24.48 | RavenII | I couldn't italicize "you"... |
| 19:25.50 | RavenII | I'm not asking what the point of it is?rather I would like to know how you guys utilize it?in which ways. |
| 19:28.05 | rm | I only have MK802 and Mele A2000 but both are pretty similar to CB hardware-wise |
| 19:28.21 | rm | one MK802 is a router/server |
| 19:28.36 | rm | 2nd MK802 and the Mele are Debian desktops with X11 and Firefox for web browsing |
| 19:32.05 | D-Tick | rm: do you know a device with >1GB ram? |
| 19:32.17 | rm | the A10 CPU does not support more than 1GB, afaik |
| 19:33.08 | rm | on different CPUs, yes there are some, e.g. http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451 |
| 19:33.13 | rm | but much more expensive |
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| 19:43.09 | RavenII | rm?didn't think of that?the router usage. |
| 19:44.32 | w00tc0d3 | Arndale FTW. But it's costing damn much money. |
| 19:45.07 | mnemoc | w00tc0d3: try armbrick |
| 19:45.54 | w00tc0d3 | mnemoc: what is it? |
| 19:46.02 | w00tc0d3 | ARM Cortex A15 board? :D |
| 19:46.07 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: doesn't start shipping for another few months unfortunately :/ |
| 19:46.17 | RaYmAn | it's basically a cheaper version of arndale |
| 19:46.43 | mnemoc | http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/26/135-armbrix-zero-exynos-5-development-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/ |
| 19:47.06 | jammi | at the moment, mine is just sitting around waiting for more/better software support |
| 19:47.11 | rm | > Shipping via Fedex is about $35 to $45 depending on destination |
| 19:47.14 | rm | f*ck them |
| 19:47.21 | mnemoc | :( |
| 19:47.25 | rm | > Shipping via Fedex is about one MK802 depending on destination |
| 19:47.27 | rm | :D |
| 19:47.29 | w00tc0d3 | mnemoc: nice =) |
| 19:48.04 | rm | also, if you think you "need" quad core and 2GB of RAM, hint - for the vast majority of tasks YOU DONT |
| 19:48.25 | rm | now if only we sorted out video/3D acceleration |
| 19:48.30 | rm | and some 2D acceleration too |
| 19:48.38 | rm | which I believe we will |
| 19:49.12 | rm | the A10 is like a top of the line computer from 5 years ago |
| 19:49.23 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: "12 weeks after closing each batch." - so it'll be like 3 months or something :/ |
| 19:49.33 | RaYmAn | not that I ordered one |
| 19:49.34 | rm | people did browse the web, ran office apps and played games back then, too |
| 19:49.45 | RaYmAn | 5 years? |
| 19:49.52 | RaYmAn | more like 10 |
| 19:50.09 | rm | okay |
| 19:50.25 | rm | time flies :/ |
| 19:50.28 | Gumboot | I was a bit shocked to discover that the machine I've been using as my main machine since I can't remember when benchmarks more poorly than the A10. |
| 19:50.42 | mnemoc | people still runs 8bit MCUs.... |
| 19:50.49 | Gumboot | Except at crypto, where even an i7 still can't beat it. |
| 19:51.12 | rm | mnemoc, but not for their main (or at least secondary) desktop |
| 19:51.19 | rm | which is what I am advocating for here |
| 19:51.53 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Alejandro_Mery/Lapdock <--- I advocate for this :) |
| 19:55.02 | mnemoc | sort of eoma-ish on some ways.... |
| 19:56.41 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: wth happened to your avatar? no rayman anymore? |
| 19:56.47 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: eh? |
| 19:56.55 | mnemoc | i see an owl |
| 19:56.57 | RaYmAn | where? |
| 19:56.59 | mnemoc | no rayman |
| 19:57.20 | RaYmAn | adium changes it to the owl sometimes on gtalk, lol |
| 19:57.25 | ssvb | w00tc0d3: Arndale board seems to have some issues - https://bugs.launchpad.net/arndale/+bug/1081417 |
| 19:57.28 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: :p |
| 19:57.31 | RaYmAn | github etc should still show the right one |
| 19:58.03 | w00tc0d3 | ssvb: =P |
| 19:58.31 | mnemoc | dog |
| 19:58.33 | mnemoc | doh |
| 19:59.12 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: how do you ever get any development done on arm devices without touchscreen/screen? |
| 19:59.15 | RaYmAn | It seems..painful |
| 19:59.15 | RaYmAn | :P |
| 19:59.29 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: :p |
| 20:00.03 | RaYmAn | I guess I just need to stuff linux on there instead and get serial console |
| 20:00.11 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: my arm devices with ts do phone calls and play music... not much beyond that |
| 20:00.21 | RaYmAn | heh |
| 20:01.49 | RaYmAn | It just seemed easier on my adam, tfs and such, with nice buttons for booting various modes and such :P |
| 20:02.00 | RaYmAn | I guess I should just stay away from stick-form, lol |
| 20:02.16 | RaYmAn | btw, the gk802 looks 100% identical to the hi802 pictures I've seen |
| 20:02.31 | RaYmAn | with UART points possibly being a size where even I can manage to solder them |
| 20:02.44 | mnemoc | :D |
| 20:03.11 | mnemoc | you can even solder a nice header |
| 20:03.15 | rm | RaYmAn, http://liliputing.com/2013/01/install-ubuntu-linux-on-the-100-zealz-gk802-quad-core-mini-pc.html |
| 20:03.33 | rm | "how do you ever get any development done on arm devices without touchscreen/screen?" <- by installing a GNU/Linux distro on them and sshing in |
| 20:04.09 | RaYmAn | I suppose =P |
| 20:06.02 | RaYmAn | I just wish they'd bother releasing sources |
| 20:06.10 | RaYmAn | but at least it's unbrickable =P |
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| 20:15.56 | rm | and they don't? |
| 20:16.08 | rm | > One of the key things that sets the GK802 apart from other ARM-based mini computers is the fact that it’s powered by Freescale’s quad-core i.MX6 processor. Since Freescale offers documentation and support for Linux, it’s easier for developers to port Linux-based operating systems to this chipset than to some others. |
| 20:17.41 | RaYmAn | yeah, they don't. |
| 20:17.51 | RaYmAn | Freescale does, but it obviously lacks all the device specific stuff |
| 20:18.14 | RaYmAn | and they haven't quite gotten to device-tree yet, so there's no just grabbing that and moving it across ;) |
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