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| 09:49.08 | rm | yes <mnemoc> he even dedicates a paragraph to tell shit about the cubie |
| 09:49.58 | rm | I know about that one, and my humorous proposal was to do that as "an answer" to that :p |
| 09:54.55 | ssvb | lunra: ARM11 has a faster VFP than Cortex-A8 |
| 09:55.09 | lunra | Ah. TIL. |
| 09:55.39 | lunra | Any idea what NEON is like compared to ARM11 VFP? |
| 09:56.20 | lunra | Hrm, sorry, I guess that's a silly question |
| 09:56.24 | lunra | They don't even work the same |
| 09:57.13 | ssvb | NEON is faster, but it is not fully IEEE-754 compliant and does not support double precision |
| 09:58.46 | lunra | *phew*, fftw3 has NEON optimisations. I can do my FFTs and they should be fast. |
| 09:59.36 | ssvb | clang also uses NEON for scalar single precision floating point calculations on Cortex-A8 :) |
| 09:59.41 | lunra | Oops, I forgot to say thankyou |
| 09:59.47 | lunra | (thankyou!) |
| 10:00.12 | ssvb | for what? |
| 10:00.16 | lunra | clang just got even more awesome |
| 10:00.20 | lunra | Thankyou for the info :) |
| 10:00.31 | ssvb | np :) |
| 10:01.35 | ssvb | in any case, if you need double precision calculations for something, ARM11 is going to be faster |
| 10:02.34 | ssvb | but apparently not too much, based on http://www.freelists.org/post/luajit/LuaJIT-SciMark-IntelARM-comparison benchmark :) |
| 10:02.39 | lunra | In my case, I can get away with single precision. |
| 10:05.06 | lunra | Well, the integer operations surrounding the floating point code should be faster on Cortex-A8 because A8 is superscalar |
| 10:06.36 | ssvb | yes, overall performance for 1GHz Cortex-A8 is still faster than 700MHz ARM11 on the mix of integer and floating point code |
| 10:07.42 | ssvb | and for just primarily integer only code (that's most of the software), Cortex-A8 will run circles around ARM11 :) |
| 10:09.47 | lunra | :D |
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| 10:25.50 | gzamboni | is the pcb of cubieboard available anywhere ? |
| 10:26.40 | gzamboni | i have the schematic but i need to know exactly the pins of the line in connector to see whitch pin is the left and witch one is the right channel |
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| 11:12.29 | Gumboot | In addition to discussing only floating-point performance (and specifically non-vector floating-point performance) there's the whole question of picking on only the cubieboard when there are so many A9 boards on the market. |
| 11:13.55 | Gumboot | And A15, too. |
| 11:15.37 | jelly-home | he jus picked an example |
| 11:22.37 | Gumboot | Try openssl for an example. http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance#Results_3 http://linux-sunxi.org/Benchmarks#Results_2 |
| 11:32.03 | Gumboot | Actually, even linpack comes out in front on A10, if you don't overclock the pi. |
| 11:37.35 | Gumboot | And a naive scaling of ioquake3 puts them about on-par. |
| 11:38.54 | Gumboot | It'd be interesting to see ioquake3 run at 1280x1024 for a fair match. |
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| 11:55.48 | Gumboot | Actually, openssl results are rich with "runs three times faster than the pi" benchmarks. |
| 11:56.07 | Gumboot | Maybe switch around the words 'results' and 'benchmarks', there. |
| 11:58.07 | mikedep333 | hi Gumboot, I just found out about this board & just joined this channel |
| 11:58.43 | mikedep333 | I have a (1st gen I believe) MK802 currently |
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| 12:00.04 | mikedep333 | and a raspberry pi |
| 12:00.50 | mikedep333 | I also have an Efika MX Smarttop |
| 12:01.00 | mikedep333 | so I know how much faster a cortex A8 is than an ARM11 CPU |
| 12:01.08 | Gumboot | Hello. I'm not a regular contributor in this channel. I'm just faintly raging against some mad claims about relative performance right now. |
| 12:02.20 | mikedep333 | gotcha |
| 12:03.07 | mikedep333 | ok, so question |
| 12:03.17 | mikedep333 | can the cubieboard be powered by the USB OTG port only? |
| 12:03.23 | mikedep333 | or the USB host ports also? |
| 12:03.47 | mikedep333 | I have a motorola lapdock, which provides power in addition to acting as a usb device (rather than a usb host) |
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| 12:08.22 | mnemoc | mikedep333: yes, it can |
| 12:08.41 | mikedep333 | mnemoc, thanks |
| 12:08.45 | mnemoc | err |
| 12:08.53 | mnemoc | answered the first question only |
| 12:09.02 | mnemoc | it can't be powered by the host ports |
| 12:09.10 | mikedep333 | ok |
| 12:09.27 | mnemoc | but you can connect the power cable to the usb of the lapdock |
| 12:09.38 | mnemoc | just be sure to not close the lid |
| 12:09.50 | mikedep333 | mnemoc, lol, yup, found out about that with my mk802 |
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| 13:20.29 | zench | helo somebody can help me ? to find where buy simple case? |
| 13:23.57 | mnemoc | http://cubieboard.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/a-simple-case |
| 13:24.21 | mnemoc | beware shipping is by weight |
| 13:24.29 | alcides | i want mr. xu's case |
| 13:24.30 | alcides | XD |
| 13:25.18 | mnemoc | i don't know if any of the "third party" cases is on sale yet |
| 13:25.22 | tinti_ | alcides: and a sdbreakou |
| 13:25.36 | alcides | tinti hello :D |
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| 13:26.19 | tinti_ | it is very pleased (a little unpleased) to see things getting sold out at cubieboard shop. Great job guys! |
| 13:26.49 | mnemoc | it seems miniand bought all the remaining stock from the 3rd batch |
| 13:27.05 | alcides | really? |
| 13:27.09 | alcides | how many pieces? |
| 13:27.11 | zench | mnemoc, in mshopify very big cost of shiping |
| 13:27.47 | tinti_ | I am crazy to get cubieboard (next name) too :) |
| 13:27.53 | mnemoc | zench: yes, it's sadly flat rate based on an scale of weights |
| 13:28.02 | mnemoc | dhl is $20 up to 1kg |
| 13:28.20 | alcides | dhl is great but also expensive |
| 13:28.23 | mnemoc | hkp is $10 up to .5kg, and $20 up to 2kg |
| 13:28.34 | zench | case = 4 $ shiping =20 $!!!! |
| 13:28.51 | alcides | yes |
| 13:28.55 | pidpawel | :D |
| 13:28.55 | Turl | yeah dhl costs a lot |
| 13:28.58 | alcides | i also give up to get a case after that |
| 13:29.05 | mnemoc | but you can buy a bunch for the same shipping price |
| 13:29.05 | Turl | both when shipping and receiving :| |
| 13:29.07 | alcides | 20 bucks for shipping |
| 13:29.17 | Turl | tom was supposedly adding HKP back though |
| 13:29.19 | mnemoc | as I said, up to 1kg |
| 13:29.19 | alcides | *gave up |
| 13:29.26 | Turl | for a whitelist of countries |
| 13:29.28 | mnemoc | Turl: he did, but for "selected coutries" |
| 13:29.35 | Turl | yeah |
| 13:29.49 | mnemoc | still aweful for cheap things. $10 |
| 13:30.11 | mnemoc | he really wants to get people buying larger quantities |
| 13:30.16 | Turl | if you know HKP/china post/etc work fine to get you stuff, you can ask him to add your country to the list |
| 13:30.38 | Turl | mnemoc: 10$ is not that bad if you buy a cubie+case |
| 13:30.52 | mnemoc | once the cb is back on stock, yes |
| 13:31.18 | Turl | I was surprised to see it selling on miniand tbh |
| 13:31.29 | Turl | and at the same price |
| 13:31.52 | mnemoc | board price, yes |
| 13:32.36 | mnemoc | doh. miniand is out of stock too |
| 13:32.44 | alcides | bummer |
| 13:32.52 | Turl | that sold quickly |
| 13:32.54 | mnemoc | hates miniand |
| 13:33.21 | Turl | I recall tom saying on the ML that 100pcs wouldn't get you any discount |
| 13:33.40 | Turl | so miniand must've had more than that considering they sell it at the same price |
| 13:34.13 | mnemoc | yes, that's why i believe they bought all the spare boards tom had |
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| 13:36.39 | gzamboni | it sells well cubieboard |
| 13:36.57 | gzamboni | i found the amixer adc input mux control for the fmin |
| 13:37.04 | gzamboni | its the '1' |
| 13:37.45 | gzamboni | but, it worked only using the left channel. |
| 13:38.14 | gzamboni | (the fminl) |
| 13:38.56 | gzamboni | fminr pin 23 from the gpio doesnt work. maybe its a hardware connection issue between the header and the A10 |
| 13:39.01 | carras | I have just ordered mine |
| 13:39.08 | carras | with other 3 mates |
| 13:39.28 | gzamboni | gotta resell it in France ;) |
| 13:39.32 | carras | shippment price is no to much when you order 3 |
| 13:39.50 | gzamboni | without profits, only to have a good negociated price with dhl , fedex and transports companies |
| 13:40.15 | gzamboni | yeah, its worth to buy in quantity |
| 13:40.41 | gzamboni | but your mates have to want it to :D |
| 13:41.36 | gzamboni | the lin in connector also only record one channel, dunno if its the right or the left, thats why i wanted to check the pcb gerber |
| 13:41.59 | gzamboni | mnemoc, is the gerber or pdf pcb of cubieboard available anywhere ? |
| 13:42.36 | mnemoc | http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/ is what's available |
| 13:42.36 | tinti_ | gzamboni: I think in the front page of cubieboard.org |
| 13:43.32 | carras | now I have one coming.. |
| 13:43.45 | carras | can I use the Rpi software in cubieboard? |
| 13:43.50 | carras | or have I to recompile it ? |
| 13:44.02 | carras | raspbian and things like that |
| 13:44.26 | mnemoc | you can use stock debian for armhf on the cubie, why adding fruits on top? |
| 13:44.34 | gzamboni | maybe i should tell hipboi for the QA control to check the gpios and/or the linein connector |
| 13:44.38 | tinti_ | gzamboni: http://cubieboard.org/download/ |
| 13:44.46 | carras | then debian better |
| 13:45.12 | carras | after I play with it I'll make a seedbox with linux and mldonkey in textmode |
| 13:45.38 | carras | there are how tos for raspbian |
| 13:45.55 | mnemoc | gzamboni: they do test each pin afaik. not sure about linein |
| 13:46.00 | carras | i don't think i need them, but its good to have them |
| 13:46.14 | mnemoc | QA is done in the factory, so longer test, higher cost |
| 13:46.31 | gzamboni | tinti, the block diagram has the solder layer of the botoom and the top of the board, but not the connections. |
| 13:47.40 | mnemoc | the cubieboard is not oshw, but you can try to ask hipboi to make a v1.2 of the .dwg including a few more details if you can justify the need |
| 13:48.09 | tinti_ | gzamboni: sorry |
| 13:48.24 | mnemoc | his idea was to provide just enough to let people make extensions and cases |
| 13:48.44 | mnemoc | without making it clonable |
| 13:50.08 | alcides | hmmm |
| 13:51.28 | gzamboni | well, i know the pin channel from the connector thats working but dunno if its thre right or left channel from the line in |
| 13:51.53 | mnemoc | mail support and update the wiki :) |
| 13:52.17 | carras | mnemoc, will the new batch come with something new ? |
| 13:52.44 | carras | or will be like 9-12? |
| 13:53.04 | gzamboni | gotta talk to hipboi to resell cubiboard here in france/europe |
| 13:53.40 | mnemoc | carras: same board rev. it was told that they will include nand-less variants this time |
| 13:53.47 | gzamboni | buy like a 1000 units to help him with the production |
| 13:53.47 | jelly-home | gzamboni: europe? how many units would you buy |
| 13:53.59 | jelly-home | heh |
| 13:54.02 | gzamboni | just have to put 20% of taxes + the transport costs |
| 13:54.19 | mnemoc | nice |
| 13:55.02 | mnemoc | would love to have the budget to have done that myself when tom offered it.... |
| 13:55.10 | gzamboni | maybe put a 5 dollars margin for returned boards or lost packages. |
| 13:56.11 | mnemoc | i bet the discount for 1k pieces makes a decent margin already |
| 13:57.45 | gzamboni | gotta check with "commerce chambre" here to open my company, anyway i would do it later |
| 13:58.02 | gzamboni | so i will start reselling and after i can start my planned business |
| 13:58.18 | gzamboni | as my planned business will use cubieboards :) |
| 13:58.59 | gzamboni | i was just waiting for line in/ micin and fmin to work |
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| 14:06.06 | gzamboni | does cubieboard has the CE? or does it complient to the correspondent IECs ? |
| 14:06.47 | mnemoc | the reason to not include a power supply was the CE thing |
| 14:07.01 | mnemoc | for the board itself (afaik) it doens't need certification |
| 14:07.46 | mnemoc | you can buy CE-ed power adapters for the PSP and resell those as for the cubie |
| 14:07.59 | mnemoc | or any CE-ed 2A usb power adapter |
| 14:09.48 | gzamboni | mnemoc maybe its a software thin that on fmin and linein there is only one channel working |
| 14:12.59 | gzamboni | cool, this means if i sell exactly the content that hipboi sells it will be ok |
| 14:16.36 | gzamboni | if i do so im thinking in selling other development stuff like some products from this store for instance: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/407494 |
| 14:16.43 | gzamboni | maybe some products from olimex |
| 14:17.24 | Turl | I think dev boards do not need certification, but if you were to sell it as part of a product it might |
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| 14:52.17 | gzamboni | Turl i thought that also, but gotta check it to be sure. |
| 14:55.14 | Turl | gzamboni: worth a read I guess http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/878 |
| 14:56.27 | mnemoc | gzamboni: wvshare boards are nice |
| 14:59.44 | Turl | doesn't TI offer free samples of similar stuff? |
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| 15:53.29 | carras | hi again |
| 15:54.12 | carras | I just saw a closeup pic and |
| 15:54.22 | carras | the power USB is microUSB or miniUSB ? |
| 15:55.25 | jammi | neither |
| 15:55.48 | jammi | it's just the yellow-size round 5V plug |
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| 16:09.54 | carras | but you can power it with usb too, don't you? |
| 16:13.48 | Turl | I believe so, yes |
| 16:13.56 | Turl | I think it's miniUSB |
| 16:14.31 | Turl | the board also comes with a full size male usb to barrel plug cable so you can use your pc or a phone/ipad charger to power the board |
| 16:16.47 | carras | yeah, My power supply have a female USB port, so i'll use the power cable on it |
| 16:17.18 | carras | but in Europe there is a directive that recommends microUSB> for all phone power supply |
| 16:17.51 | carras | so I hoped I could use a phone charger to power the cubie |
| 16:18.14 | Turl | most of the phone chargers I've seen are a block with a female usb port, and a separate cable |
| 16:22.45 | carras | My lg gw620 come with a female usb port, but my actual i9003 have a fixed microUSB cable |
| 16:24.38 | Turl | http://www.amazon.es/AmazonBasics-Cargador-entrada-enchufe-europeo/dp/B008VSMD08/ |
| 16:25.55 | jammi | you'll need something heftier than a usb charger anyway if you're going to use it for something besides powering the board itself |
| 16:27.23 | Turl | a 2.1A charger should be enough for most stuff |
| 16:27.51 | Turl | I think the cubie allows a max of 2 or 2.5A, don't recall the number now |
| 16:28.49 | jammi | if it's one not doing any handshaking |
| 16:29.28 | jammi | a to-spec (actual usb) charger wouldn't give that without negotiating, which the barrel plug doesn't do |
| 16:30.08 | jammi | just get a generic 5V power supply instead |
| 16:32.01 | jammi | a computer port shouldn't give more than 100 mA without negotiation, and charging ports shouldn't give more than 500mA without digital negotiation |
| 16:32.42 | jammi | if a port does, it's not an actual usb port but something else with a usb connector slapped on |
| 16:35.17 | jammi | anyway, a generic 5V power supply with a barrel connector shouldn't be more expensive than a usb power supply, quite the contrary |
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| 16:39.49 | mogurakun | jammi: hm, but it seems to actually work by powering from a single usb port.. |
| 16:40.25 | mogurakun | jammi: i think that 100mA is the theory, in practice all new mobos come with far more powerful ports.. |
| 16:40.56 | jammi | until you plug in something like an usb wifi stick or something else than draws as much power as a typical usb device should |
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| 16:41.55 | jammi | a 2.1A usb charger makes no difference to a 500mA usb charger in this case. it just cuts power over 500mA |
| 16:42.17 | jammi | whereas a generic 2A power supply would give the 2A |
| 16:42.47 | jammi | even a 1A power supply would give twice as much as a 2A ano |
| 16:43.03 | jammi | *2A usb psu |
| 16:45.08 | jammi | 1A, 2A usb power supplies don't make any difference. it's easily demonstrated plugging in a 500mA device into one of the cubie's usb ports |
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| 16:46.02 | jammi | whereas it has no problem powering such devices on a proper power supply |
| 16:49.05 | jammi | using a better power supply also means you can use the sata port without issues |
| 17:04.10 | carras | Turl: thank you. I was thinking in something like this http://www.pccomponentes.com/cargador_para_tablets_2_35mm_5v_2a.html |
| 17:05.34 | Turl | yeah that would work too, you will need to use the cubie supplied usb cable though as that barrel plug looks too small to me |
| 17:05.55 | Turl | jammi has a point however, depending on what you want to do with it you might be better off buying a power supply |
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| 17:12.44 | hrs | Hi. I've got a wall adapter that can do 4.5v and 6v. Can either mode be used for the cubieboard or do I definitely need to get a 5v adapter? |
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| 17:13.31 | mnemoc | 5v only |
| 17:13.50 | hrs | ok, thanks |
| 17:14.27 | jammi | isn't the cubieboard's barrel an EIAJ-02? |
| 17:14.44 | jammi | the one on the spanish site seems like a EIAJ-01 |
| 17:15.01 | hrs | I dont know, but it's 4.0mm x 1.7 mm |
| 17:15.16 | mnemoc | probably you can get 4.4mm in too |
| 17:15.23 | jammi | hrs: it's EIAJ-02 |
| 17:16.15 | mnemoc | but 4.0/1.7mm plugs fit perfectly |
| 17:16.18 | jammi | the jack is 4.4 and plus 4.0. the connector spec is rated for 2A and 3.15V to 6.3V |
| 17:16.29 | jammi | *plug 4.0 |
| 17:17.02 | jammi | the next size is 4.75mm plug with a 5.15mm jack |
| 17:17.06 | mnemoc | plug 6.3V and let us know if it survives |
| 17:17.28 | jammi | no, that's for the connector itself. |
| 17:17.35 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:17.48 | jammi | up-to spec devices would be anything within that range |
| 17:17.50 | hrs | I think I'll pass :) |
| 17:18.20 | jammi | the EIAJ-01 on that spanish site is strange though, because it's rated only up to 3.15V |
| 17:18.36 | mnemoc | likes the provided cable because I can use my already existing usb power adapters |
| 17:18.51 | mnemoc | instead of a crappy chinese one |
| 17:19.21 | jammi | I just used leftover plugs from some universal power supplies I previously got |
| 17:19.41 | mnemoc | afaik the power adapters for PSP are compatible, and cheap |
| 17:19.44 | tinti_ | hrs: take care to get at least 2A or more for sata. |
| 17:20.07 | tinti_ | better more |
| 17:20.15 | jammi | yeah, 4-5A or so |
| 17:20.53 | hrs | tinti_: yes, I've read that, thanks. I will be adding a hdd later. But first I'll try it without. |
| 17:21.07 | carras | you can use a PSP adapter ? |
| 17:21.10 | jammi | it doesn't hurt to have some safety margin on the power supply and it also helps preventing the power supply frying itself. it's never a good idea to use a power supply at its peak limits |
| 17:21.24 | carras | i have one getting dust over it :) |
| 17:21.36 | hrs | PC hub provides 5v at ~500mA. but my understanding is that PC usb hubs are not very stable |
| 17:21.53 | tinti_ | jammi: +1 |
| 17:23.16 | carras | my lg adapter is rated 0.7A |
| 17:23.20 | carras | i can use it only for cubie |
| 17:23.44 | carras | but if I plug a keyboard it would be at limit |
| 17:24.23 | carras | and I absolutely can't plug sata disk |
| 17:24.43 | hrs | Hmm, I think I need to accept the fact that I'll need to buy a PSU that costs the same as the board ^^ |
| 17:25.09 | carras | wat about the psp adapter ? |
| 17:29.08 | jammi | a 4-5A psu shouldn't be more than 10-20€ depending on the quality and where you buy it from |
| 17:29.17 | hrs | I dont know much about electronics but isn't a psp adapter a charges in stead of a power supply? |
| 17:29.38 | jammi | and usually found in some electro-garbage almost everyone has left from old devices |
| 17:29.50 | mnemoc | bought a nice 5V/4A powered 4x usb hub |
| 17:29.57 | mnemoc | for $23 |
| 17:30.01 | Turl | yeah but a psp adapter is designed to charge psps, I doubt it requires auto negociation at all |
| 17:30.28 | jammi | anyhow, it's not much different from pc's either. a good psu easily costs more than the mobo, and you'll just fry your stuff with a shitty power supply |
| 17:31.34 | jammi | for instance, with the ones included in the cheapest-possible atx cases |
| 17:34.26 | jammi | actual electronics component stores are usually the best places to buy regulated switching power supplies from |
| 17:34.53 | jammi | like, the same places you'd buy components like resistors and capacitors from |
| 17:35.02 | carras | is asking himself where mnemoc bought it |
| 17:35.18 | jammi | typically the cheapest too |
| 17:36.15 | jammi | fixed margins, like on all other stuff they sell, not like random stores where the sales people try to figure out how much they can charge for every piece separately |
| 17:36.22 | carras | jamy my objetive with my cubie is to run a cheap linux server |
| 17:36.40 | hrs | Ok, thanks jammi, good info. |
| 17:37.02 | carras | using a cheap atx psu with 10% efficiency at low load don't make sense |
| 17:37.39 | jammi | carras: umm, why would you do that? |
| 17:38.51 | carras | ohh, a missunderstand you when you talked about atx cases |
| 17:41.25 | carras | mnemoc: where did you buy your powered usb hub? |
| 17:44.09 | jammi | powered usb hubs can be bought almost anywhere |
| 17:50.32 | carras | yeah, but i'm searching for the data sheet of the internal power supply and can't found any |
| 17:53.05 | jammi | internal power supply of what? |
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| 17:58.20 | carras | what máx current support the power hub |
| 17:58.28 | carras | or external |
| 18:00.30 | jammi | a powered hub can power each port at 500mA, and the power supply depends on how many of such ports the hub has |
| 18:01.54 | mogurakun | carras: and you plan to run cubie with as server with many hdds ? |
| 18:02.54 | jammi | btw, an external 3.5" usb hdd case might be a good option for such an application |
| 18:03.04 | jammi | both to power the cubieboard as well as the hdd |
| 18:03.14 | jammi | and might fit the cubieboard itself too |
| 18:03.39 | jammi | just cut some new holes for the ports |
| 18:06.09 | mogurakun | jammi: but those have 12V adapters.. no ? |
| 18:07.10 | jammi | they supply 5V to the hdd anyway |
| 18:07.15 | jammi | just use that |
| 18:10.25 | buZz | cubie uses more than 500mA |
| 18:10.30 | carras | a 3.5" HD need 12 and 5V inputs |
| 18:10.33 | buZz | my calculations showed about 650mA |
| 18:11.38 | carras | mogurakun: I'm thinking in cubieboard with a 2.5" HD |
| 18:12.08 | carras | but jammi suggestion of 3.5" HD box and got 5V from hd power supply is a good option |
| 18:12.36 | jammi | at least they're fairly cheap, easy to work on and provide a case |
| 18:12.48 | mogurakun | i have one |
| 18:13.00 | mogurakun | but cubie definitely doesnt fit in there |
| 18:13.11 | mogurakun | unless i put a 2.5 hdd + cubie |
| 18:13.24 | carras | the boxes are cheap, and you can reuse some old HD |
| 18:13.27 | carras | I have many |
| 18:13.31 | jammi | chances are some old pata cases are lying around being useless for other things |
| 18:13.47 | carras | I was thinking just in that |
| 18:14.05 | carras | a IDE/sata HD box cost about 10/15€ here |
| 18:14.18 | carras | and I have 2 or 3 3.5 IDE HDs |
| 18:14.39 | carras | hate the web irc client. It don't do autoscroll |
| 18:14.57 | mogurakun | yeah it's a bit clumsy |
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| 19:11.37 | titankiller | Ordered a cubieboard today ! |
| 19:11.57 | titankiller | I see cubie board has a HDMI out |
| 19:12.12 | titankiller | but i dont have a hdmi monitor :-( |
| 19:12.30 | titankiller | will a usual monitor/tv help ? |
| 19:12.39 | pidpawel | i dont have hdmi monitor as well |
| 19:12.46 | pidpawel | i use hdmi -> dvi adapter |
| 19:13.33 | titankiller | hmmm .. So the only output on the board is HDMI ? |
| 19:13.44 | titankiller | how much does it cost ? |
| 19:13.55 | titankiller | the converter |
| 19:14.10 | carras | titankiller: me too. Congrats |
| 19:14.21 | pidpawel | ablut 10zł it means about 3$ |
| 19:14.26 | pidpawel | *about |
| 19:14.36 | carras | titankiller: you can use a DVI monitor with the adapter |
| 19:14.49 | carras | or you can just use a hdmi TV |
| 19:15.15 | pidpawel | its linux - it should work without a monitor :> |
| 19:15.33 | carras | titankiller: the converter cost about 4-5€ |
| 19:15.57 | carras | but the graphic card used to come with one |
| 19:16.07 | titankiller | hmm where's all the fun without output ???:-) |
| 19:16.54 | carras | titankiller: i want mine to make a seedbox |
| 19:17.15 | carras | i will use it without monitor. Only ssh |
| 19:17.37 | titankiller | i'm planning on some R&D on arm arch |
| 19:17.40 | carras | i will use a monitor only first time for the install and initial play with the gadget |
| 19:18.18 | pidpawel | btw - http://pliki.pidpawel.eu/random/nas_nas.jpg gentoo powered, no monitor at all :> |
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| 19:18.43 | jammi | btw, adapter, not converter. hdmi and dvi signals are essentially the same, it's just the plugs that are different |
| 19:18.54 | jammi | *connectors |
| 19:19.26 | carras | pidpawel: what board is that ? |
| 19:19.40 | carras | i had gentoo on my main system a few years ago |
| 19:19.55 | pidpawel | its wd my book live. 800MHz powerpc, 256MB ram. |
| 19:20.09 | titankiller2 | jammi:tat is why its less costly |
| 19:21.28 | jammi | titankiller2: yes, an adapter is just two connectors and a piece of wire. there's no reason why a dvi to hdmi cable would cost more than a hdmi-hdmi or dvi-dvi cable of the same length would |
| 19:22.33 | titankiller2 | the adapter would do perfect for me |
| 19:23.06 | titankiller2 | But it would help if i could connect the out from cubie board to my Laptop |
| 19:23.16 | titankiller2 | which doesnt have a video input |
| 19:23.19 | titankiller2 | :-( |
| 19:23.24 | Turl | you can use a serial console :) |
| 19:23.53 | titankiller2 | serial console ? |
| 19:24.03 | titankiller2 | Turl? |
| 19:24.49 | titankiller2 | Well which cable do you use for that ? |
| 19:26.00 | Turl | you use an USB to UART adapter/cable and connect it to the cubieboard's UART header |
| 19:26.02 | Turl | https://cubieboard.myshopify.com/products/ttl-to-usb-serial-cable |
| 19:26.51 | Turl | you can find them everywhere, they're really cheap |
| 19:26.56 | titankiller | oh you guys call that a serial cable ? |
| 19:27.03 | titankiller | i thought that was UART |
| 19:27.12 | Turl | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0203/2266/files/ttl2.jpg?35 |
| 19:27.49 | Turl | well, UART is serial :) |
| 19:27.49 | pidpawel | uart =/= rs232 |
| 19:28.02 | titankiller | hmmm |
| 19:28.09 | titankiller | i did not order that |
| 19:28.25 | titankiller | can i get it in market ? |
| 19:29.01 | Turl | you can get them everywhere; ebay, aliexpress, dealextreme |
| 19:29.08 | Turl | local shops even, depending on where you live |
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| 19:33.01 | titankiller | well i see a 3.3v version and 5v version |
| 19:33.08 | titankiller | which one to choose ? |
| 19:36.09 | qermit | UART is universal asynchronous reciever transmiter |
| 19:39.10 | Turl | 3.3v |
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| 19:42.28 | carras | can you power the board with the ttl cable ? |
| 19:42.57 | Turl | I think hno had hacked it to be able to do so |
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| 19:43.44 | jammi | no, you shouldn't power it with the ttl cable |
| 19:44.51 | Turl | I think he had installed the module inside the device and connected a usb cable to feed it and get data lines to a pc |
| 19:45.41 | Turl | if you're running headless and 'peripheral-less', a computer usb port is enough to boot these devices |
| 19:47.41 | carras | well, for the installation i will use the TTL and can power it from Pc's usb port or from my phone charger |
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| 20:51.28 | mnemoc | carras: http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170966582369 ... it comes with a pretty decent 12V/2.5A |
| 20:51.42 | mnemoc | carras: and there is a usb3 variant too |
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| 21:13.05 | wooy | no more free shipping? |
| 21:16.48 | Turl | shipping was never free |
| 21:27.49 | Baikonur | in aliexpress, it was included in the price |
| 21:35.53 | rm | on indiegogo it was, but not on aliexpress afaik |
| 21:36.09 | rm | on Ali there was the China Post shipping available |
| 21:36.17 | rm | which costed like $7 |
| 21:36.39 | rm | not $20-30 for DHL/FedEx/EMS as it is now |
| 21:40.26 | wooy | on ali i saw $49 with international shipping included, but final cart price might be different, dunno. |
| 21:40.51 | RaYmAn | rm: there is a thread on ml about cheap shipping. He enables it per country when people say they receive packages fine using that |
| 21:43.50 | rm | yeah I know that |
| 21:43.57 | rm | but it is out of stock on shopify |
| 21:44.05 | rm | and just checked -- even out of stock on Miniand |
| 21:44.29 | wooy | well, the sata is killer feature |
| 21:44.34 | rm | Miniand offering me only $26 EMS shipping |
| 21:44.38 | rm | was * |
| 21:45.48 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mele-A2000-TV-box-debug-board-pack/593210702.html |
| 22:23.25 | carras | thank you mnemoc I was afk |
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