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| 10:02.20 | pidpawel | hipboi: tracking numbers. shouldnt they be sent by this time? |
| 10:02.50 | hipboi | pidpawel: the tracking numbers are still not trackable |
| 10:02.52 | hipboi | sigh |
| 10:02.58 | pidpawel | :D |
| 10:04.07 | mnemoc | hipboi: espeedpost? |
| 10:04.26 | hipboi | oh, just found the information finally goes to HK post website |
| 10:04.48 | hipboi | the message is The item (RT165152970HK) was posted on 18-Jan-2013 and is being processed for delivery to the addressee. |
| 10:05.10 | mnemoc | hipboi: then mail those tracking numbers away :) |
| 10:05.18 | hipboi | mnemoc: not espeed this time |
| 10:05.19 | hipboi | yes |
| 10:05.22 | hipboi | mail now |
| 10:06.05 | hipboi | there is one person always complaining on indiegogo |
| 10:06.08 | hipboi | recently |
| 10:06.18 | hipboi | many times |
| 10:06.36 | hipboi | and i just found his package wan't sent somehow... |
| 10:06.43 | mnemoc | :( |
| 10:06.45 | hipboi | others are all sent... |
| 10:07.19 | hipboi | i guess he will be angry if he knew it... |
| 10:07.51 | pidpawel | :D |
| 10:08.06 | mnemoc | hipboi: hope you still have stock to send it now |
| 10:08.13 | hipboi | yes |
| 10:08.24 | hipboi | and it was sent today |
| 10:08.45 | pidpawel | this is how indiegogo work. most people think that it is a more complicated shop |
| 10:09.00 | hipboi | but i guess he will have to wait for 3 more days to get the tracking number |
| 10:09.01 | pidpawel | so, as always "I PAY AND I DEMAND" :> |
| 10:09.13 | hipboi | yes |
| 10:09.24 | mnemoc | well.. from the buyer pov it makes sense |
| 10:09.27 | hipboi | and there are also some paid and forgot |
| 10:09.36 | hipboi | never reply the mail |
| 10:09.46 | mnemoc | hipboi: maybe they never got it |
| 10:09.55 | f1r3 | hipboi can you say when the tracking numbers for the lucky dogs will be sent ? |
| 10:10.04 | hipboi | yes |
| 10:10.13 | hipboi | will be sent right now |
| 10:10.21 | f1r3 | great |
| 10:10.32 | mnemoc | hipboi: if they aren't many, try sending a person-to-person mail. it might have better luck passing spam filters |
| 10:11.07 | hipboi | yes, i sent the mail person to person now |
| 10:11.17 | mnemoc | hipboi: and/or add a note in indiegogo's campaign asking people who didn't get their [confirm your address] mail to contact you |
| 10:11.23 | hipboi | found bcc a lot doesn't work well |
| 10:11.27 | hipboi | yes |
| 10:11.28 | hipboi | i will |
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| 11:02.37 | qermit | hipboi: o/ |
| 11:02.41 | qermit | greets hipboi |
| 11:03.11 | hipboi | qermit: hi |
| 11:03.49 | qermit | hipboi: have you tested cubieboard with LTE? |
| 11:04.53 | hipboi | ... |
| 11:04.55 | hipboi | no |
| 11:05.02 | hipboi | i think 3G is ok |
| 11:08.38 | bigx | hi everybody |
| 11:09.04 | bigx | I think this question has been asked a thousand times, but still :) |
| 11:09.31 | bigx | "Is there any way to install an OS on the NAND?" |
| 11:11.26 | hipboi | bigx: yes |
| 11:11.51 | bigx | good news! so the second question would be "how?" :) |
| 11:12.01 | hipboi | the easiest way is to boot from sd card, and mount nand, and copy the rootfs to nand, then boot from nand |
| 11:13.07 | mnemoc | you need to replace linux/u-boot.bin with one made from u-boot-sunxi's lichee-dev too because the open kernel doesn't do allwinner boot hacks |
| 11:13.11 | mnemoc | anymore |
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| 11:18.21 | bigx | thanks guys, |
| 11:19.56 | bigx | if i got my os on the sd card and then copy / on the nand, would that do the tric? (i'm a noob when it comes to that kind of stuff) |
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| 11:36.17 | mnemoc | bigx: sunxi-tools has a tool for repartitioning the nand |
| 11:36.45 | mnemoc | also you'll need to replace nanda's linux/u-boot.bin |
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| 11:55.19 | gzamboni | i got the line in working on CubieBoard |
| 11:55.40 | gzamboni | i think i had a cold solder false contact |
| 11:56.39 | gzamboni | i figured it out when i tried to put 2 connectors, at the headphone and linein at the same time and the line in connector got off the board |
| 11:57.43 | gzamboni | i did resold it, retried with each of the 8 ADC input mux possibilities as i did before and it worked |
| 11:57.59 | gzamboni | values 0 and 7 for this control is for the line in |
| 11:58.34 | gzamboni | dunno the difference, i supose one is mono and the other is stereo. |
| 11:58.52 | gzamboni | it coudnt be one the right channel and the other the left one. |
| 11:58.59 | mnemoc | weee! my tracking number! |
| 11:59.16 | gzamboni | (because it wountd be possible to use it in stereo mode) |
| 11:59.29 | gzamboni | mnemoc what did you buy ? |
| 12:00.06 | mnemoc | gzamboni: the cheapest |
| 12:00.06 | gzamboni | once i find out all the controls it would be nice to change the driver to a enum instead with detailled user frindly values |
| 12:11.36 | rellla | tracking no. got it. |
| 12:11.49 | f1r3 | [x] |
| 12:16.34 | gzamboni | ?¿ |
| 12:26.44 | txt_file | rellla / gzamboni: standard packages? |
| 12:31.15 | rellla | txt_file: standard, yes |
| 12:31.56 | txt_file | hopefully i will get mine too |
| 12:32.29 | rellla | is crossing fingers... |
| 12:32.41 | txt_file | :-) |
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| 12:53.10 | txt_file | rellla: thanks. I just got an email. ;-) |
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| 13:03.03 | pidpawel | yey. i got mine tracking number too :* |
| 13:03.04 | pidpawel | :> |
| 13:03.27 | buZz | woop |
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| 14:21.35 | jelly | me three |
| 14:23.19 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:43.20 | tinti | get tracking number :) |
| 14:44.45 | tinti | I have got the tracking number I mean :) |
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| 14:58.09 | SquirrelCZECH | naaaah |
| 14:58.40 | SquirrelCZECH | from the time when I got cubie I wanted to say to hipboi, that it is a great thing :-/ |
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| 15:12.47 | Baikonur | by the time i'm getting my board, it's probably going to be obsolete technology |
| 15:14.35 | mnemoc | Baikonur: if you want a fancy media center, yes. if you want a controller for something, no. |
| 15:18.51 | gzamboni | im very happy with the cubieboard, i didnt thought it was so stable with all the performance and low consumption |
| 15:32.49 | jelly | Baikonur: it's obsoletish already, the point is reasonably open and reasonably modern |
| 15:41.44 | AndrevS | What is released today will be outdated tomorrow anyways. |
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| 15:51.03 | bigx | Hi, I'm trying to use pd-extended (new to it) on my cubieboard to do real time audio analysis |
| 15:51.03 | bigx | so i need the line in and line out to work with pd |
| 15:51.03 | bigx | for now i'm trying to run a patch that generates sound |
| 15:51.03 | bigx | it works ok on my computer but pd tells me the following: |
| 15:51.03 | bigx | ALSA error (input start failed): File descriptor in bad state |
| 15:51.04 | bigx | ALSA input error (snd_pcm_open): Device or resource busy |
| 15:51.08 | bigx | ALSA output error (snd_pcm_open): Device or resource busy |
| 15:51.11 | bigx | but when i try to play a .wav file with aplay sound is ok |
| 15:51.12 | bigx | any idea? |
| 15:54.21 | bigx | pd/pd-extended is the following software : http://puredata.info/ I installed it on my linaro with the following: http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended-0-43-3-on-raspberry-pi-raspbian-wheezy-armhf |
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| 16:16.16 | buZz | tried running it as root? |
| 16:17.02 | buZz | tried compiling debian packages for pd-extended on cubie, but failed :) |
| 16:18.17 | pidpawel | btw - right now im running gentoo on 800MHz powerpc based NAS without any cross-compilation :) |
| 16:18.25 | buZz | sweet |
| 16:18.46 | pidpawel | its a little bit slow when it comes to installing new packages (ie emerging gcc took about 6hours :D ) |
| 16:20.29 | buZz | and compiling kernel? |
| 16:21.16 | pidpawel | I'm lazy enough to use original WD's kernel from default Debian |
| 16:21.34 | buZz | meh i like kernel compiles as benchmark :) |
| 16:21.47 | pidpawel | only udev had to be downgraded to about 164 |
| 16:22.28 | pidpawel | i dont like kernel compilation time as benchmark bacause it strongly depends on configurations options and local kernel modifications |
| 16:22.38 | buZz | make defconfig :) |
| 16:23.10 | pidpawel | still - local kernel modifications :) |
| 16:23.59 | pidpawel | http://wklej.org/hash/32fc81e879/txt/ ie (its an old pastie, sorry for polish translation) |
| 16:24.35 | buZz | Pliki Tylko |
| 16:24.42 | buZz | i have no idea what you just pasted |
| 16:24.55 | buZz | you customized your .gitignore? |
| 16:25.13 | pidpawel | diff -Bbqr linux-2.6.32.11 gpl-source-mybooklive-02.32.05-046/packages/kernel_2.6.32-11 |
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| 16:26.20 | pidpawel | "tylko w" means "only in", "pliki X różnią się" means "files X differ" |
| 16:26.58 | buZz | blegh @ localized linux languages |
| 16:28.33 | pidpawel | I personally prefer localizing. the only disadvantage is that they are mostly poor quality |
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| 16:41.51 | buZz | another big disadvantage is unable to google for errors |
| 16:43.32 | bigx | thanks buZz, i tried as root but there is the same error |
| 16:44.17 | pidpawel | buZz: but google has so huge synonyms database that its not a real problem ;) |
| 16:45.00 | buZz | bigx: meh, i should get pd-extended on my cubie |
| 16:45.02 | buZz | soonish |
| 16:45.23 | buZz | SquirrelCZECH: your posted gcc 'notfound' error is because you didnt do ./gcc |
| 16:45.40 | buZz | but yeah, compile your own kernel, its fun! |
| 16:46.05 | bigx | when i try to reload alsa tells me that |
| 16:46.10 | bigx | sudo alsa reload |
| 16:46.11 | bigx | Unloading ALSA sound driver modules:. |
| 16:46.11 | bigx | Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload). |
| 16:46.46 | bigx | is the (none to reload) is ok? looks like there is no module loaded? |
| 17:02.34 | buZz | do you have a kernel with alsa as modules? |
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| 17:03.06 | bigx | i don't know :) (noob inside) |
| 17:03.21 | bigx | i've installed linaro through berryboot |
| 17:04.13 | buZz | then probably not |
| 17:04.38 | bigx | how to check it? |
| 17:05.26 | bigx | btw the problem has changed, there was a bug with pd |
| 17:05.58 | bigx | you need to introduce a delay on your patch when running it headlessly |
| 17:06.07 | bigx | the error is now the following |
| 17:06.20 | bigx | ALSA input error (restart failed): Broken pipe |
| 17:06.20 | bigx | ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe |
| 17:06.26 | bigx | a lot of times |
| 17:15.20 | bigx | i think alsa is o since i can run and hear sound with aplay |
| 17:17.03 | buZz | i always had issues with alsa in pd |
| 17:17.08 | buZz | but using jack worked fine |
| 17:17.22 | buZz | no idea about pd on arm though |
| 17:18.00 | SquirrelCZECH | buZz: what? |
| 17:18.08 | buZz | what what |
| 17:18.11 | SquirrelCZECH | sort of confused :D |
| 17:18.12 | buZz | you posted to ML |
| 17:18.16 | SquirrelCZECH | I know |
| 17:18.27 | SquirrelCZECH | http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps this is what I followed |
| 17:18.31 | buZz | you posted 'not found' |
| 17:18.39 | SquirrelCZECH | ./configure cubieboard && make .... |
| 17:18.42 | buZz | because you didnt put ./ before your command |
| 17:19.11 | buZz | well, follow that then |
| 17:19.38 | SquirrelCZECH | I followed |
| 17:20.09 | SquirrelCZECH | but I still don't get your point |
| 17:20.17 | buZz | you posted this : |
| 17:20.42 | buZz | P.S: my toolchain error |
| 17:20.42 | SquirrelCZECH | http://pastebin.com/5dQM0JMG |
| 17:20.42 | buZz | squirrel@leverak ~/cubie/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.7-2012.12-20121214_linux $ arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
| 17:20.45 | buZz | -bash: /home/squirrel/cubie/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.7-2012.12-20121214_linux/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc: No such file or directory |
| 17:20.47 | SquirrelCZECH | yep |
| 17:20.49 | buZz | thats not an error |
| 17:20.50 | buZz | its informing you |
| 17:20.56 | buZz | you are doing it wrong |
| 17:20.59 | SquirrelCZECH | lookt at the pastebin site |
| 17:21.03 | buZz | do ./arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
| 17:21.06 | buZz | instead of arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
| 17:21.23 | SquirrelCZECH | there is no such a file in the directory where I should be... |
| 17:21.42 | buZz | ok |
| 17:21.48 | buZz | is this on cubie? |
| 17:21.55 | SquirrelCZECH | no, crosscompile |
| 17:22.00 | SquirrelCZECH | and, again |
| 17:22.02 | SquirrelCZECH | http://pastebin.com/5dQM0JMG |
| 17:22.12 | tinti | hi, stupid question, where are the sources for a10 kernel? |
| 17:22.15 | SquirrelCZECH | if I ls the file instead of launching it, ti's there |
| 17:22.20 | buZz | tinti: linux-sunxi |
| 17:22.32 | SquirrelCZECH | but if I try to run it, it reports error :-/ |
| 17:22.54 | buZz | try ldd /home/squirrel/cubie/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.7-2012.12-20121214_linux/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
| 17:23.10 | buZz | i guess you are missing some libraries to run it |
| 17:23.32 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 17:23.36 | SquirrelCZECH | not dynamic exec |
| 17:23.40 | buZz | weird |
| 17:23.45 | buZz | file /home/squirrel/cubie/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.7-2012.12-20121214_linux/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
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| 17:23.56 | buZz | the command 'file' will tell you what it is |
| 17:24.32 | SquirrelCZECH | symbol link |
| 17:24.41 | buZz | symbolic link to what? |
| 17:24.47 | buZz | you can check with ls -l |
| 17:24.56 | buZz | ls -ls /home/squirrel/cubie/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.7-2012.12-20121214_linux/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
| 17:24.57 | tinti | buZz: this right? https://github.com/linux-sunxi |
| 17:25.15 | buZz | yes thats the one |
| 17:25.52 | SquirrelCZECH | for arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-4.7.3 |
| 17:26.07 | buZz | probably that file does not exist |
| 17:26.13 | tinti | but should I choose cubieboard_defconfig or something like? |
| 17:26.14 | buZz | either the manual you followed is wrong |
| 17:26.20 | buZz | or you are doing something wrong |
| 17:26.32 | buZz | tinti: there is some defconfig yes |
| 17:26.37 | mnemoc | i should actually remove that defconfig |
| 17:26.42 | mnemoc | it's unmaintained |
| 17:26.50 | buZz | tinti: i just copied the /proc/config.gz from a working kernel |
| 17:27.00 | SquirrelCZECH | buZz: it's possible but I don't know what |
| 17:27.03 | SquirrelCZECH | http://pastebin.com/ATDnDGca |
| 17:27.18 | SquirrelCZECH | the main problem maybe can be that I run it on archlinux |
| 17:27.51 | buZz | pff yeah |
| 17:27.52 | tinti | buZz: hum, which kernel? 3.0? |
| 17:27.58 | buZz | tinti: i run 3.0 yes |
| 17:28.05 | buZz | but i think 3.4 is semi decent aswell |
| 17:28.13 | buZz | but afaik you cant use CedarX in 3.4 |
| 17:28.14 | mnemoc | everything except usb gadget |
| 17:28.17 | tinti | buZz: but it requires device tree |
| 17:28.23 | buZz | a what? |
| 17:28.29 | buZz | mnemoc: cedarx works in 3.4 aswell? |
| 17:28.33 | mnemoc | should |
| 17:28.39 | mnemoc | if not, it's a bug to report |
| 17:28.41 | mnemoc | please do |
| 17:28.57 | tinti | buZz: have you asked for me or mnemoc |
| 17:28.58 | tinti | ? |
| 17:29.11 | buZz | tinti: you, what is a device tree? |
| 17:29.17 | tinti | wait |
| 17:29.19 | buZz | hmm |
| 17:29.48 | buZz | ok, i will try 3.4 this night, will move to the hackerspace in a bit |
| 17:29.49 | mnemoc | it's pretty frustrating neither cubieboard, olinuxino or hackberry actually report any trouble or submit their "fixes" at all |
| 17:30.02 | buZz | cubieboard does fixes? :D |
| 17:30.12 | mnemoc | they do publish images |
| 17:30.20 | mnemoc | and i'm sure they aren't pristine |
| 17:30.29 | buZz | hey i had very little trouble getting the linux-sunxi 3.0 to work |
| 17:30.30 | mnemoc | actually i know they aren't pristine |
| 17:31.11 | buZz | tinti: also, i will post my kernel config to web, so you can just copy it |
| 17:31.22 | tinti | that would be great |
| 17:31.42 | tinti | I am not finding the lwn article |
| 17:31.59 | mnemoc | buZz: patches to the _defconfigs are more useful than publishing random configs |
| 17:32.22 | buZz | but, is there a cubieboard defconfig? |
| 17:32.27 | buZz | to actually patch? |
| 17:32.35 | tinti | http://devicetree.org/Device_Tree_Usage |
| 17:32.56 | mnemoc | tinti: for sunxi that's only since 3.8+ |
| 17:33.16 | mnemoc | buZz: sun4i_defconfig for linux, sun4i_crane_defconfig for android |
| 17:33.23 | tinti | Also this is a good link about it http://omappedia.org/wiki/Device_Tree |
| 17:33.27 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: http://pastebin.ca/2304311 |
| 17:33.30 | buZz | mnemoc: ahhh thats what crane stands for |
| 17:33.42 | mnemoc | buZz: crane is the name of their android sdk for a10 |
| 17:33.47 | buZz | mnemoc: but stuff like sata driver would have no place in sun4i_defconfig, i guess? |
| 17:33.50 | mnemoc | nuclear is the name of their android sdk for a13 |
| 17:34.15 | tinti | mnemoc: so for cubie I need to use sunxi4_defconfig |
| 17:34.15 | mnemoc | buZz: it is already there |
| 17:34.15 | tinti | ? |
| 17:34.15 | buZz | ah, ok |
| 17:34.15 | mnemoc | tinti: for any A10-based device |
| 17:34.29 | mnemoc | and improvements are welcomed |
| 17:34.47 | tinti | Nice that all boards are assembled following the same pins |
| 17:35.00 | mnemoc | tinti: pins are irrelevant to the kernel bin |
| 17:35.18 | mnemoc | tinti: the board setup comes in the script.bin file. similar to a modern .dts |
| 17:35.22 | mnemoc | but more readable :p |
| 17:35.30 | tinti | mnemoc: ? |
| 17:35.46 | mnemoc | .dts describes a board in mainline |
| 17:35.58 | mnemoc | script.bin describes a board in allwinner linux |
| 17:36.03 | tinti | mnemoc: wow. That is nice, and said ... they could use dts or kernel should use their pattern |
| 17:36.14 | tinti | or merge the best of each other |
| 17:36.26 | mnemoc | tinti: the mainlining effort is DT based |
| 17:36.41 | mnemoc | tinti: but not usable on a real device yet |
| 17:37.07 | tinti | well, I am using it on MX51 |
| 17:37.16 | mnemoc | eventually we will add fex2dts support to sunxi-tools' fexc |
| 17:37.33 | mnemoc | tinti: sure, fsl is upstream friendly. allwinner isn't |
| 17:38.15 | tinti | mnemoc: I dont agree that fsl is upstream friendly but ok. :) |
| 17:38.35 | mnemoc | tinti: compared to chinese manufacturers they are |
| 17:38.44 | mnemoc | and they are also in linaro |
| 17:38.48 | mnemoc | fsl i mean |
| 17:38.51 | tinti | mnemoc: you have a point. |
| 17:39.02 | tinti | No, freescale is not in linaro anymore |
| 17:39.07 | mnemoc | :< |
| 17:39.24 | tinti | As far as I know, at least as the main contributors no |
| 17:39.31 | buZz | i dont like linaro that much |
| 17:39.38 | tinti | That is way they removed the support for MX53 |
| 17:39.45 | tinti | really sad |
| 17:39.53 | buZz | i like how they are doing good work for some tools and kernel stuff |
| 17:39.59 | buZz | but their distro is quite meh |
| 17:40.02 | bigx | can I use oss instead of alsa with the cubieboard? |
| 17:40.07 | mnemoc | buZz: having companies paying people to get stuff standarized and mainlined is good |
| 17:40.14 | buZz | bigx: no, there is no oss driver |
| 17:40.18 | buZz | mnemoc: yes! |
| 17:40.36 | buZz | mnemoc: but i dont see how building another distro helps |
| 17:40.39 | mnemoc | tinti: fsl still listed in http://www.linaro.org/ |
| 17:40.59 | mnemoc | buZz: they upstream all their changes |
| 17:41.09 | buZz | yes that is awesome |
| 17:41.14 | buZz | i like that part |
| 17:41.18 | bigx | and if I can use aplay, it means that the alsa driver is ok? |
| 17:41.22 | mnemoc | so indirectly everyone wins |
| 17:43.00 | tinti | mnemoc: listed! just that. They before had monthly releases for their boards. |
| 17:43.28 | tinti | as the others |
| 17:43.30 | mnemoc | tinti: :) |
| 17:43.35 | mnemoc | fair point |
| 17:44.28 | mnemoc | but my point is that allwinner invests in making "their" android and their socs harder to open up |
| 17:45.06 | mnemoc | removing .git and core .c files from the sdk was the first step |
| 17:45.19 | mnemoc | now they don't include `su` and nanda is "invisible" |
| 17:45.52 | mnemoc | they also scrambled the copyright notes on the code to a random not-allwinner company |
| 17:46.30 | mnemoc | A31 devices are all designed in-house |
| 17:46.41 | mnemoc | i really don't understand that people |
| 17:52.39 | ganbold_ | hm, why they don't include su? |
| 17:53.02 | mnemoc | to annoy? |
| 17:53.04 | ganbold_ | which is ridiculous |
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| 17:53.33 | mnemoc | fortunatelly adb is exploitable |
| 17:54.02 | mnemoc | but still annoying |
| 17:54.52 | ganbold_ | maybe I'm not correct but android sdk is kind of slowly fading away to closed/commercial, that is what I read somewhere |
| 17:55.03 | ganbold_ | maybe on slashdot |
| 17:55.09 | ganbold_ | but I could be wrong |
| 17:56.15 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 17:56.19 | SquirrelCZECH | personally hates android sdk |
| 17:56.26 | SquirrelCZECH | like |
| 17:56.28 | SquirrelCZECH | a lot |
| 17:56.37 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: but all devices are made with it |
| 17:56.47 | SquirrelCZECH | but it's morel like I hate java... |
| 17:56.53 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: so to open up your device you face their crap |
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| 17:57.26 | SquirrelCZECH | just |
| 17:57.34 | SquirrelCZECH | wanted to make simple app for android |
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| 17:57.40 | SquirrelCZECH | just to control my robot |
| 17:57.59 | SquirrelCZECH | you know, 2x 2-way joysticks, what's hard with that? send data over network... |
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| 17:58.13 | SquirrelCZECH | ... |
| 17:58.38 | ganbold_ | SquirrelCZECH: you can use IR :) |
| 17:58.45 | SquirrelCZECH | nope |
| 17:58.45 | ganbold_ | and TV remote :) |
| 17:58.51 | SquirrelCZECH | I really want network ;-) |
| 17:59.03 | SquirrelCZECH | it's robot controlled over network, so... |
| 17:59.05 | SquirrelCZECH | :-) |
| 17:59.24 | SquirrelCZECH | the "mobile phone" is just to be able to control it without laptop :D |
| 17:59.27 | ganbold_ | ah, then maybe gsm/3g |
| 17:59.30 | f1r3 | SquirrelCZECH: i used bluetooth steering wheel for this purpose |
| 17:59.42 | SquirrelCZECH | oh |
| 17:59.51 | SquirrelCZECH | f1r3: link? :D |
| 17:59.57 | f1r3 | it is an free app and i used their "protocol" for my app |
| 18:01.03 | anon9002 | Anyone knows if Miniand offers a cheaper shipping method than DHL? $20 is a bit too expensive. |
| 18:01.58 | f1r3 | SquirrelCZECH: http://www.karelbruneel.com/blog/2011/01/android-controlled-robot/ |
| 18:03.00 | SquirrelCZECH | f1r3: thanks |
| 18:04.44 | f1r3 | i control my lawn mower whith it |
| 18:04.51 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 18:04.58 | ganbold_ | lawn mover :) nice |
| 18:05.04 | SquirrelCZECH | but as I look at it it looks little bit "worse" than what I found :D |
| 18:05.06 | f1r3 | m0wb0t |
| 18:05.34 | SquirrelCZECH | http://code.google.com/p/ipgamepad/ |
| 18:05.46 | SquirrelCZECH | I just took the "android app" part "D |
| 18:05.48 | SquirrelCZECH | :D |
| 18:06.10 | f1r3 | we started to code our own customizable remote for android, but it is far from a release |
| 18:06.20 | SquirrelCZECH | I wanted too |
| 18:06.32 | SquirrelCZECH | but didn't now that android's SDK is so "fucking bullshit" |
| 18:06.38 | SquirrelCZECH | I know I am rude, but I just hate it |
| 18:07.07 | f1r3 | it took me a day to get the bt wheel code compile |
| 18:07.11 | SquirrelCZECH | :D |
| 18:07.19 | SquirrelCZECH | you know |
| 18:07.28 | f1r3 | i prefer assembler to java |
| 18:07.52 | SquirrelCZECH | it took me a 2 days to have working client app and server app for communication in python |
| 18:08.22 | SquirrelCZECH | it spend 2 days trying to connect with android sdk to my laptop... unsuccess |
| 18:08.34 | SquirrelCZECH | *I spend |
| 18:08.48 | unkle_george | is the SATA connected to the SOC via USB (limited to 480Mb)? |
| 18:09.29 | f1r3 | unkle_george: no the SATA controller is inside the A10 |
| 18:09.38 | f1r3 | it is connected right |
| 18:09.41 | unkle_george | oooh, Thanks |
| 18:19.24 | bigx | I'm struggling with alsa and pure data, here is the error |
| 18:19.31 | bigx | ALSA input error (restart failed): Broken pipe |
| 18:19.31 | bigx | ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe |
| 18:20.18 | bigx | someone told me alsa modules are not present, how to check it? |
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| 18:29.10 | lunra | bigx: lsmod lists modules, but I don't know what modules are responsible for it |
| 18:31.32 | bigx | i ran the alsa-info.sh script |
| 18:31.36 | bigx | here is the output |
| 18:31.38 | bigx | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=15b4fd9af5c991036019dedd698deeacb37b553b |
| 18:34.31 | bigx | i'm just lost with that stuff |
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| 18:44.45 | cybin | bigx: you can check in /proc for asound or something like that. if it's not exist, no module is loaded. |
| 18:45.36 | bigx | thanks, here is the content of /proc/asound |
| 18:45.39 | bigx | dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Jan 18 18:44 ./ |
| 18:45.40 | bigx | dr-xr-xr-x 81 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ../ |
| 18:45.40 | bigx | dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 card0/ |
| 18:45.40 | bigx | dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 card1/ |
| 18:45.40 | bigx | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 cards |
| 18:45.40 | bigx | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 devices |
| 18:45.42 | bigx | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 pcm |
| 18:45.44 | bigx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jan 18 18:45 sun4icodec -> card0/ |
| 18:45.46 | bigx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jan 18 18:45 sun4isndhdmi -> card1/ |
| 18:45.48 | bigx | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 timers |
| 18:45.52 | bigx | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 18 18:45 version |
| 18:46.30 | bigx | more version outputs "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24." |
| 18:46.45 | bigx | so alsa is correctly installed? |
| 18:47.12 | cybin | bigx: maybe pure data is using the wrong output device. or if it's hdmi, it's probably muted. |
| 18:47.48 | bigx | maybe, i'll try to plug the board to hdmi |
| 18:49.53 | cybin | bigx: you can try to run 'lsof -p <pidofpuredata>' to see, wether it has an open file descriptor for /dev/asound/... or /dev/sound/... |
| 18:55.15 | bigx | tried with hdmi with the same problem |
| 18:55.33 | bigx | and the lsof command returns me the following |
| 18:55.42 | bigx | linaro@linaro-alip:~$ lsof -p 37972 |
| 18:55.42 | bigx | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() squashfs file system /squashfs |
| 18:55.42 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.00 | bigx | no sorry |
| 18:58.06 | bigx | the output is |
| 18:59.45 | bigx | http://pastebin.com/1PtWzxnd |
| 19:00.02 | bigx | (put in a pastebin since it quite big) |
| 19:01.32 | bigx | so there is some /dev/snd but nothing lie /dev/asound |
| 19:01.49 | cybin | /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c and /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p. these are the control and output devices. |
| 19:02.24 | cybin | you may find more informations about these devices in /proc/asound/devices and .../cards...and so on. |
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| 19:03.17 | cybin | use alsactl and amixer to unmute and configure this device then. |
| 19:03.33 | cybin | sorry, but i don't remember it exactly. ;) |
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| 19:03.54 | carras | hi |
| 19:04.05 | bigx | linaro@linaro-alip:/proc/asound$ more devices |
| 19:04.06 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.06 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.06 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.06 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.06 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.08 | bigx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.12 | bigx | hi carras |
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| 19:04.25 | carras | we have fresh new stock |
| 19:04.27 | carras | :) |
| 19:04.39 | carras | what batch are from? |
| 19:07.45 | bigx | cybin: I don't know what to do next with alsactl and alsamixer |
| 19:08.41 | carras | what's your problem bigx ? |
| 19:09.54 | bigx | I'm trying to use pd-extended (new to it) on my cubieboard to do real time audio analysis |
| 19:10.25 | bigx | but the error is the following |
| 19:10.36 | bigx | ALSA input error (restart failed): Broken pipe |
| 19:10.49 | bigx | ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe |
| 19:11.38 | bigx | but beside of that I can play sound with aplay for example |
| 19:13.57 | carras | umm |
| 19:14.01 | carras | don't know :( |
| 19:14.17 | bigx | me neither :) |
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| 21:16.34 | buZz | hmmf |
| 21:16.41 | buZz | is printing a raspi case |
| 21:16.46 | buZz | but i cant remember why i needed one |
| 21:30.11 | mnemoc | "because I can"? |
| 21:37.01 | rm | to defecate into then post a photo to twitter instagram flickr facebook google+ |
| 21:38.20 | rm | like... "got a new case for my raspberry pi" |
| 21:38.27 | rm | THAT'LL SHOW THEM |
| 22:11.07 | mnemoc | rm: read http://www.zdnet.com/we-thought-wed-sell-1000-the-inside-story-of-the-raspberry-pi-7000009718/ :) |
| 22:11.32 | mnemoc | he even dedicates a paragraph to tell shit about the cubie |
| 22:20.12 | lunra | Hold up, why would the floating point performance of a Cortex-A8 -- which has both VFP and NEON -- be worse than the Pi? Or is he including the GPU's performance(which is kinda unethical)? |
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| 22:23.04 | jelly-home | one thing tho, rpi has working hdmi-cec |
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| 22:33.28 | simosx | Hi All. The Cubieboard is available again for purchase. Would it make sense to add this to the channel /topic? URL: http://cubieboard.org/buy/ |
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| 22:50.51 | mnemoc | something like that? |
| 22:51.15 | mnemoc | or... |
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| 22:52.09 | pidpawel | why photo on blog is so small? |
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| 22:53.15 | mnemoc | pidpawel: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/pictures/cubieboard-2012-08-08/ |
| 22:54.13 | pidpawel | mnemoc: i was talking about picture in blog note. a thumbnail os opening when thumbnail is clicked |
| 22:54.18 | simosx | mnemoc, thanks. |
| 22:54.28 | simosx | pidpawel, which photo? URL? |
| 22:54.41 | lunra | $75.90USD including shipping and GST (I'm in AU)... I hope it comes back on shopify, especially considering that's without the serial cable which I do need |
| 22:55.03 | pidpawel | http://cubieboard.org/2013/01/18/the-cubieboard-available-now-for-purchase/ poto here |
| 22:55.17 | mnemoc | lunra: you can get uart/usb cables for $2 on ebay |
| 22:56.11 | lunra | Hmm, still. Thanks for the info :) |
| 22:56.18 | mnemoc | lunra: new stock after the string festival. miniand must have bought all the slack |
| 22:56.30 | simosx | lunra, I posted a message on Miniand so that they add an open for standard Airmail. You should contact them as well for Australia. |
| 22:56.38 | mnemoc | tom said he had ~800 "spare" boards |
| 22:56.58 | lunra | Miniand are also an Australian company, but I wonder where they keep their stock |
| 22:57.29 | simosx | lunra, isnt's it 49 + 20 = 69 USD? |
| 22:57.41 | lunra | I have to pay GST since Miniand are Australian |
| 22:57.50 | lunra | so it's an extra $6.90 USD |
| 22:58.13 | lunra | GST = Goods and Services Tax, 10% on the item + shipping |
| 22:59.08 | mnemoc | lunra: feel luky, here in europe you usually end up pay the ~20% of VAT + service fees |
| 22:59.15 | mnemoc | paying* |
| 22:59.34 | lunra | VAT is also for all things within the EU isn't it? |
| 23:00.07 | mnemoc | yes, inter-EU the VAT of the seller country is charged |
| 23:00.28 | lunra | So it's a big area too :<. It's a shame. |
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