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| 00:48.32 | buZz | hehe |
| 00:48.39 | buZz | i just installed roman's kernel |
| 00:48.49 | buZz | but found it greatly lacking in driver (at least the desktop version) |
| 00:49.08 | buZz | so, now compiling my own |
| 00:49.17 | buZz | on the cubieboard :P |
| 00:49.33 | buZz | with all the possible v4l/wifi/webcam drivers as modules |
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| 02:25.01 | hno | buZz, sure. http://www.hno.se/code/A10/u-boot/ |
| 02:37.36 | buZz | hno: ah, i found an email of you in cubieboard ml that said not to use those? |
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| 02:56.30 | xrosnight | hno: what's the link for? |
| 02:56.47 | buZz | uboot binary |
| 02:56.50 | buZz | with support for ethernet |
| 02:56.57 | buZz | for tftp kernel grabbing :) |
| 02:58.23 | xrosnight | buZz: got it. havent' get my cubieboard yet |
| 02:58.29 | xrosnight | how's yours? |
| 02:59.09 | buZz | yes its plowing away nicely :) |
| 02:59.14 | buZz | still compiling kernel |
| 02:59.44 | xrosnight | you mean you need to compile the kernel on itself? |
| 02:59.51 | buZz | there is no specific need |
| 03:00.07 | buZz | there are precompiled kernels aswell |
| 03:00.23 | buZz | i just needed some more kernel drivers enabled |
| 03:00.28 | xrosnight | yeah. |
| 03:00.37 | xrosnight | yeah. that's what i am talking about. drivers |
| 03:00.41 | buZz | will this be your first linux device? :) |
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| 03:01.00 | xrosnight | nope. i am running Linux mint 13 now. |
| 03:01.13 | buZz | oh ok |
| 03:01.20 | xrosnight | it might be my first linux board :D |
| 03:01.28 | buZz | well i'll be throwing this kernel online somewhere once its ready and working |
| 03:01.43 | xrosnight | raspberry pi hasn't arrive at China now... |
| 03:01.44 | buZz | so you could grab my messy kernel with nearly all possible drivers enabled :P |
| 03:01.49 | buZz | it'll be huuuge |
| 03:02.12 | xrosnight | buZz: yeah. I might continue where you've done |
| 03:02.38 | buZz | very welcome! |
| 03:02.44 | xrosnight | :D |
| 03:03.44 | xrosnight | do you compile the kernel for cubieboad on the PC you are using now? |
| 03:05.25 | xrosnight | buZz: ? |
| 03:06.54 | buZz | on the cubieboard |
| 03:07.29 | xrosnight | buZz: if we can compile a decent kernel for cubieboard, then we could submit to Archlinux community . http://archlinuxarm.org |
| 03:07.43 | xrosnight | alright. how long has it take until now? |
| 03:07.56 | buZz | over 3 hours :) |
| 03:08.00 | buZz | of course |
| 03:08.07 | buZz | or arch could come look at my kernel :P |
| 03:08.12 | xrosnight | buZz: sounds really fine. |
| 03:08.23 | xrosnight | buZz: once you've made one :D |
| 03:08.47 | xrosnight | they support A10 very well as what they said |
| 03:09.22 | xrosnight | how do you think of the price of cubieboard then? |
| 03:09.47 | buZz | its very decent |
| 03:10.11 | buZz | i hope the price will not climb so much when the dualcore version come available |
| 03:12.00 | xrosnight | buZz: i've contacted the producer that they won't increase the price . we don't need to worry |
| 03:12.32 | buZz | i never worry :P |
| 03:12.42 | buZz | just concerned ;) |
| 03:12.48 | xrosnight | buZz: also i am expecting the out-coming of the dualcore ones |
| 03:12.52 | xrosnight | :p |
| 03:12.55 | buZz | soon? |
| 03:13.18 | buZz | i like how cubieboard is really aiming at hobby segment and has all these pins broken out |
| 03:13.34 | buZz | but maybe for more cpu power i should look at the odroid ... |
| 03:13.47 | buZz | not sure if i will need a lot more soon |
| 03:14.12 | buZz | my cubieboard is the brain of a laptop ;) |
| 03:15.52 | xrosnight | that sounds great! |
| 03:16.04 | xrosnight | do they have GPIO ? |
| 03:16.16 | buZz | odroid? no :( |
| 03:17.16 | buZz | well |
| 03:17.23 | buZz | there is a version with 400 pins .. |
| 03:17.27 | buZz | but impossibly tiny |
| 03:17.34 | buZz | not so hackerfriendly as cubie |
| 03:17.39 | xrosnight | 400 pins. to do what... |
| 03:17.45 | buZz | everything |
| 03:17.54 | xrosnight | like a forest . lol |
| 03:18.03 | buZz | hdmi,csi,i2c,uarts,etc |
| 03:18.21 | buZz | cubie already has almost 100 pins ;) |
| 03:18.42 | xrosnight | i haven't known much about csi, uarts. i ought to learn it. |
| 03:18.54 | buZz | csi is camera sensor interface |
| 03:19.03 | buZz | there are cool cheap cameras to connect to it on ebay |
| 03:19.15 | buZz | and uart is .. dont know what it means. but its a serial port |
| 03:19.23 | buZz | for debugging, or for other devices |
| 03:19.40 | buZz | like arduino also has a uart, you can connect together and skip usb ;) |
| 03:20.16 | xrosnight | camera sensor interface CSI sounds cool . now get it. uart , hrmm |
| 03:20.34 | xrosnight | by the way, how could you control the IO on cubieboard |
| 03:20.47 | buZz | linux has a gpio interface |
| 03:20.55 | buZz | some IO is controlled by drivers |
| 03:21.08 | buZz | but most needs to 'appointed' to do so |
| 03:21.20 | buZz | because the pins have different modes |
| 03:21.25 | buZz | you select one at boot |
| 03:22.26 | xrosnight | hrmm |
| 03:34.13 | xrosnight | is 4 Gb NAND flash large enough to have a desktop environment on cubieboard ? |
| 03:34.20 | xrosnight | buZz: :) |
| 03:34.25 | buZz | yeah i think so |
| 03:34.32 | buZz | you can do a lot in 4GB |
| 03:34.55 | buZz | i have 4gb in use for my laptop now, on a 8gb sd card |
| 03:35.05 | buZz | but i am compiling kernel so its a bit big ;) |
| 03:36.48 | buZz | i have gimp, iceweasel, full build environment |
| 03:38.08 | xrosnight | in safe, how much room can ensure a functional kernel compiling ? |
| 03:38.45 | xrosnight | by the way, your laptop you mean your cubieboard ? |
| 03:38.49 | buZz | yeah |
| 03:39.15 | buZz | i dont know, i hope the 8gb card will be enough |
| 03:39.20 | buZz | i am quite sure it will be enough |
| 03:40.23 | xrosnight | cool ! since i don't have a HDMI to VGA adapter, i need to get one. Yeah. I am thinking so. These days i might buy a 8GB or 16GB sandisk SD card. maybe class 10 preferred . |
| 03:40.40 | buZz | or you could get a HDMI screen ;) |
| 03:41.00 | buZz | 16gb is not so expensive |
| 03:41.11 | buZz | i just used 8gb because i had one spare |
| 03:41.56 | buZz | i'll stick to 8gb i think.. might move some stuff into nand and some other stuff to a sata disk :) |
| 03:42.45 | xrosnight | i have 3 monitors. 2 of them only support VGA input. 1 of them is a 22'' one which has DVI and VGA input. but i haven't had one with HDMI. anyway, VGA monitors are extincting now. |
| 03:43.40 | buZz | you can also convert HDMI to DVI-D with a cable |
| 03:43.59 | buZz | but by default raspi doesnt output a monitor-friendly resolution afaik |
| 03:44.02 | buZz | 1280x720 |
| 03:44.35 | xrosnight | the moment when you are installing linux on it, can you manage which part of the NAND and SD card will install anything? |
| 03:44.53 | buZz | well .. |
| 03:45.03 | buZz | there is no 'linux installer' really |
| 03:45.13 | buZz | oh, there is berryboot |
| 03:45.17 | xrosnight | yeah. in fact |
| 03:45.19 | buZz | that will download + install linux |
| 03:45.50 | buZz | i just prefer to do it all myself |
| 03:46.36 | xrosnight | but if you want to have your own linux. you need to specify how much room it could use as '/' folder of linux. and you need to set where the '/' folder locates |
| 03:47.05 | xrosnight | do you mean you will set '/' in NAND? |
| 03:47.13 | buZz | i might |
| 03:47.33 | buZz | but that might be a bit too small |
| 03:48.44 | xrosnight | i am thinking 4 Gb may be enough. but for a user interface desktop it is not enough. we might could mount '/tmp', '/usr/local','/home' or etc on the 8Gb flash card |
| 03:49.31 | xrosnight | i installed archlinux in my virtualbox, i gave 4 GB to '/' . never enough |
| 03:49.38 | buZz | hehe |
| 03:49.51 | buZz | i think all storage will eventually be 'never enough' |
| 03:50.18 | xrosnight | but i only use that Archlinux for python programming. it just works. |
| 03:50.44 | buZz | i think python works on many linux systems :P |
| 03:50.45 | xrosnight | :D yeah. cubieboard has a great advantage that it has SATA socket |
| 03:51.12 | buZz | soon i will find out if the sata is hotpluggable :P |
| 03:51.35 | xrosnight | yeah. it works. I am using the newest python 3.3.0 so i get an archlinux which is so amazing and convenient to use. |
| 03:51.39 | buZz | i think all sata is, but if this works, i can just turn on/off the sata disk in my laptop :D |
| 03:52.18 | buZz | maybe add a small relay controlled by gpio to cut the power :D |
| 03:52.21 | buZz | w000 |
| 03:52.45 | xrosnight | the SATA? i don't know. As for CPU, i heard that kernel 3.8 is going to be hot-pluggable |
| 03:53.24 | buZz | pff i can only dream of owning computers with hotpluggable cpus :D |
| 03:53.43 | xrosnight | if the kernel can control , then it might be hot-pluggable. |
| 03:54.30 | buZz | well, i'll know soon :) |
| 03:55.14 | xrosnight | yeah. its like going into a supermarket. you pick all kinds of cpus, and insert them in or take them out. it's like a desk. |
| 03:55.35 | xrosnight | lets see :) |
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| 03:58.49 | buZz | :) |
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| 06:22.53 | buZz | right |
| 06:23.03 | buZz | attempt #20 at compiling a working kernel :P |
| 06:40.05 | drilly | buZz, do you trying to install to internal flash? |
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| 08:54.59 | rjd__ | buZz: you compiling on the cubie itself? |
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| 09:13.08 | Linux34 | Hi. |
| 09:13.15 | Linux34 | My board is working .. |
| 09:13.16 | Linux34 | :) |
| 09:13.30 | Linux34 | cubie+debian = home server. |
| 09:14.09 | Linux34 | I have pi and 2. brother cubie. |
| 09:14.32 | Linux34 | pi: http://pi.selfip.com/ |
| 09:14.37 | Linux34 | cubie is comming. |
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| 10:11.14 | qermit | Linux34: nice |
| 10:26.04 | Linux34 | here is cubie video: http://youtu.be/E0HzTT7I4EQ |
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| 10:33.32 | Linux34 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0HzTT7I4EQ |
| 10:45.59 | Linux34 | 2. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9IxLaHOv0M&feature=youtu.be |
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| 11:30.02 | Linux34 | 3. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igBsFYIwpoc&feature=youtu.be |
| 11:39.51 | rjd__ | got a rasp yesterday too, but it was doa |
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| 13:48.38 | buZz | rjd__: yes on cubie itself |
| 13:48.41 | buZz | almost finished :P |
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| 14:04.12 | buZz | arg |
| 14:04.14 | buZz | ´package architecture does not match system' |
| 14:04.25 | buZz | i compiled it for arm but system is armhf |
| 14:04.26 | buZz | damnit |
| 14:04.37 | buZz | and ARCH=armhf of course doesnt fix it |
| 14:06.19 | buZz | ah i shouldnt specify it .. |
| 14:06.24 | buZz | lets see |
| 14:09.24 | buZz | of course, compile everything again \o/ |
| 14:09.26 | buZz | :P |
| 14:19.31 | solarian | which is the tidiest way to have a fix mac address with linaro? |
| 14:22.08 | buZz | i am not sure, but maybe you can give a kernel parameter to set the mac address |
| 14:22.19 | buZz | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.53 | buZz | mehh, kernel doesnt turn on framebuffer :( |
| 14:33.07 | buZz | gotta go compare configurations .. |
| 14:38.52 | jammi | ok, got a tv (basically as a dedicated display for my other cubieboard) |
| 14:42.47 | buZz | woot |
| 14:43.01 | jammi | my first tv ever |
| 14:43.09 | buZz | :D congratz |
| 14:43.13 | buZz | is it HDMI? |
| 14:43.21 | jammi | even my oldschool consoles were using dedicated real video monitors |
| 14:43.36 | jammi | (including c64, amiga etc) |
| 14:43.54 | buZz | i owned my first TV back when i was ... 7 years old? |
| 14:44.09 | buZz | for a Sharp MZ721 on which i learned programming ;) |
| 14:44.27 | jammi | sure, one of those 42" thingies, has a couple of hdmi and a vga, plus some useless scart ports for video recorders and such |
| 14:44.34 | buZz | cool cool |
| 14:44.36 | jammi | vhs and such |
| 14:45.07 | buZz | i used VHS quite recently as a poor-mans-DVR |
| 14:45.16 | jammi | this one doesn't have a usable tuner, so it's practically a monitor |
| 14:45.29 | buZz | yeah there is nothing good on TV anyway ;) |
| 14:45.36 | buZz | too much commercials |
| 14:46.12 | jammi | I never liked the concept of having to adjust my schedule according to what's airing at certain times; rather just download + watch when I have time, and pause if I need to do something |
| 14:46.25 | buZz | yeah |
| 14:46.40 | buZz | i used to run VDR with a DVB-T stick and a smartcard reader |
| 14:46.55 | buZz | so i would get raw DVB dumps of some programs i liked over time |
| 14:47.10 | buZz | raw DVB is really such a nice quality of video :) |
| 14:47.42 | buZz | i am curious if cubie would be fast enough to play with DVB-T |
| 14:47.45 | jammi | I used to subscribe to a remote tv recorder service. records all the channels airing, keeps them for a couple of weeks and offers them for streaming and downloading in various different formats |
| 14:48.09 | buZz | in my 'new kernel' there will be DVB drivers enabled aswell |
| 14:48.17 | jammi | and well as storing forever certain programs (I don't remember the limit) |
| 14:48.36 | buZz | hmm all this talk makes me want to watch the news |
| 14:48.37 | buZz | brb |
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| 18:36.29 | pidpawel | http://blog.parts-people.com/2012/12/20/mobile-raspberry-pi-computer-build-your-own-portable-rpi-to-go/ :> |
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| 18:58.16 | jammi | that's fugly stuff. I'd rather see something to retrofit an old macbook/powerbook/ibook with |
| 18:59.21 | jammi | the eoma-68 seems to address that niche though |
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| 19:38.29 | buZz | grlmb |
| 19:38.39 | buZz | wtf do i need to fix in my kernel to get a working framebuffer ;((( |
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| 21:01.02 | buZz | annoooooooying |
| 21:06.46 | AndrevS | Yeah, I still have to take a look at the framebuffer. I already suspected it was probably not in the kernel (sunxi-linux.org one). (and the archlinuxarm sun4i kernel crasheson the cubieboard) |
| 21:07.57 | AndrevS | at least.... I have verified the hdmi port. a CRT monitor on my HDMI to VGA adaptor understands the 1280x720 resolution it uses (even though aspect radio is incorrect) |
| 21:15.34 | buZz | ha, it works! |
| 21:16.08 | buZz | i was lucky that the screen of my lapdock supports 1280x720 |
| 21:45.50 | buZz | finally <3 working wifi! |
| 21:45.50 | buZz | woohoo |
| 21:46.45 | jammi | the maintainer of sed etc quits because of rms: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.gnu.general/7873 |
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