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| 07:50.22 | hno | buZz, yes.4 even I think, but we have no further information or driver. |
| 07:58.51 | buZz | 4 O_O |
| 07:58.52 | buZz | wow |
| 08:02.34 | hno | doesn't help when there is no driver. |
| 08:05.58 | hno | All I know is some conflicting information on possible pins, and a note on which register range and clock gate. No information on actual registers or drivers or confirmed pin information. |
| 08:12.38 | buZz | would be awesome if that could work |
| 08:12.58 | buZz | does a lot of work with CVBS video, in live gigs |
| 08:13.01 | buZz | as a VJ .. |
| 08:13.39 | hno | The pins are not connected on cubieboard. |
| 08:14.56 | buZz | ah :( |
| 08:14.56 | buZz | sad |
| 08:15.18 | buZz | are they connected in that mele a1000 board? |
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| 10:25.42 | hno | buZz, visual inspections indicates there is some components missing apart from the connector. |
| 10:26.39 | buZz | yeah, read something about missing resistors |
| 10:27.03 | buZz | still i wonder if some A10 devices with composite-in exists |
| 10:28.07 | hno | Bisqwit, http://linux-sunxi.org/images/c/c6/Mele-a1000-pcb-front-fel.jpg |
| 10:28.49 | hno | cvbs-in is in the right top corner, second connection from top. |
| 10:32.01 | buZz | ah yeah right |
| 10:37.21 | tinti | hno: nice! are that connector testpoints? |
| 10:37.40 | tinti | some of the white ones? |
| 10:41.40 | hno | tinti, what? |
| 10:42.10 | tinti | hno: never mind :S |
| 10:42.27 | tinti | hno: bad question I did :) |
| 10:43.32 | hno | tinti, http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/ |
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| 11:19.39 | buZz | w000t |
| 11:19.47 | buZz | received my cubieboard :) |
| 11:20.03 | buZz | and it works sweet with motorola lapdock :D yaaay |
| 11:21.30 | buZz | so ehm, is there some common connector we could abuse for these 'shield'plugs? |
| 11:23.02 | buZz | oh hmm |
| 11:23.04 | buZz | http://www.ebay.nl/itm/10Pcs-Pitch-2mm-40-Pin-Female-Single-Row-Straight-Pin-Header-Strip-/180882874995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1d75a273#ht_1403wt_987 |
| 11:23.08 | buZz | that should work, right? |
| 11:26.30 | hno | buZz, yes very likely. |
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| 11:27.07 | buZz | :) |
| 11:27.12 | buZz | well slowly |
| 11:27.22 | buZz | i wouldnt have any perfboard to use it with :/ |
| 11:28.07 | hno | And there is easier ones that is both 2 rows and can be cut to suitable lengths. |
| 11:28.32 | buZz | maybe i should wait for official cubieboard breakout boards ;) |
| 11:32.11 | hno | Yes, that's a lot easier. |
| 11:32.20 | hno | what kind of shield addons are you looking for? |
| 11:33.00 | buZz | no idea exactly, but at least something to avoid the pins being exposed :P |
| 11:36.41 | hno | A box is sufficient for the latter. Adding a shield not. |
| 11:36.56 | hno | you still need a box.. |
| 11:50.24 | buZz | i will build a box anyway |
| 12:21.06 | buZz | what is that second button for btw? |
| 12:21.24 | buZz | there is a power button, but also a 'Fel' button? |
| 12:26.39 | hno | USB recovery mode, for flashing the NAND using Livesuit mainly. |
| 12:34.28 | buZz | ahhh ok |
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| 14:48.17 | debianin | someone know how much transistors are inside a ARMv7 that is in A10? i dont find that info anywere |
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| 15:18.00 | Turl | debianin: over one billon maybe? google certainly doesn't help much |
| 15:19.41 | debianin | one billion? no, these numbers are made by X86 CPUs, not ARM. ARM does some million, but i duno how much million. If this info is difficult to be fount it means ARM deeloper doenst like to spread it, so it is a bad signal of no trasparency. |
| 15:20.39 | debianin | intel is proude to say "we use XXX million of transistors" but ARM seems to be shame to confess how mant transistors their cpu needs. |
| 15:21.01 | Turl | "With over one billion transistors housed on the chip, Cortex-A8 is expected to be the core of next-gen mobile devices such as cellphones and handheld games machines. " |
| 15:21.06 | Turl | from http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/arm-introduces-cortex-a8-chip-design-2005105/ |
| 15:23.21 | Turl | wikipedia says "The ARM core has remained essentially the same size throughout these changes. ARM2 had 30,000 transistors, the ARM6 grew only to 35,000. " |
| 15:24.17 | rm | 1 billion can't be right |
| 15:24.35 | rm | Intel Atom "Diamondville" (45 nm) Transistors: 47 million |
| 15:25.04 | debianin | atom have divverent version stating 47 up to 123 million |
| 15:26.03 | debianin | turl, i read link |
| 15:27.56 | debianin | i billion transistor in arm cpu is a wong notice. 1billion trnsistor need dissipation, arm cpu has no dissipation coole. |
| 15:28.00 | debianin | cooler |
| 15:36.13 | buZz | i figure the gpu uses a lot of transistors as well |
| 15:47.56 | rm | Atom with GPU: Transistors: 123 million (a significant number of these are from the memory controller and GMA 3150) |
| 16:01.25 | buZz | heh |
| 16:01.32 | buZz | i want to install berryboot from android |
| 16:01.48 | buZz | but android doesnt recognize my wireless usb cards :P guess i need ethernetz |
| 16:06.59 | debianin | we are talking about transistors related ONLY to cpu, not gpu |
| 16:16.36 | buZz | ok |
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| 17:07.11 | buZz | hehe yes |
| 17:07.12 | buZz | ok |
| 17:07.19 | buZz | cubieboard is REALLY SLOW with the default linaro :D |
| 17:07.30 | buZz | guess that scheduler is pretty needed ;) |
| 17:10.36 | Turl | buZz: open a terminal and run |
| 17:10.46 | Turl | buZz: echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 17:13.23 | buZz | that helps yeah :D |
| 17:13.31 | buZz | but why doesnt ondemand just clock it up? |
| 17:13.43 | buZz | isnt that intended behaviour? |
| 17:13.51 | Turl | yeah it probably does |
| 17:14.06 | Turl | but the default is to clock it up when cpu load hits ~95% or so |
| 17:14.30 | buZz | and what is 'fantasy' scheduler? :D |
| 17:14.42 | Turl | an scheduler by allwinner |
| 17:15.10 | buZz | ah, that one does do dynamic clocking it seems |
| 17:15.10 | Turl | you can try going back to ondemand and |
| 17:15.11 | Turl | echo 60 | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold |
| 17:15.15 | Turl | yeah |
| 17:15.17 | buZz | ah right |
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| 17:17.31 | buZz | tnx Turl :) |
| 17:39.10 | buZz | hmm |
| 17:39.26 | buZz | seems none of the berryboot'able openelecs actually works on cubie :P |
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| 17:57.11 | rjd_ | is "Ubuntu_Precise_Userspace" of linux-sunxi wiki all that is needed to build a (bootable) sd with ubuntu? |
| 18:00.44 | rjd_ | nm |
| 18:07.50 | buZz | ok berryboot is cute, but i just want a proper rootfs :P |
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| 20:14.31 | Bisqwit | hno: what? |
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| 20:26.58 | gzamboni | sup, i received today my 2 cubieboards |
| 20:30.29 | mnemoc | gzamboni: back and forth from .cn? |
| 20:31.06 | gzamboni | no, from US. i just bought 2 rich boards as i didnt want to wait aliexpress to return my money back |
| 20:31.17 | mnemoc | ic |
| 20:31.40 | gzamboni | but i dont have internet here, im connected with my celphone android internet |
| 20:32.02 | gzamboni | anyway, tomorow i will start playing around. |
| 20:32.37 | gzamboni | i have to make line in work for my first application |
| 20:33.14 | gzamboni | line in headphone and ethernet. |
| 20:33.23 | gzamboni | usb also |
| 20:33.43 | debianin | gzamboni, are you going to cook a uSD for cubieboard? |
| 20:33.50 | gzamboni | and i didnt pay any taxes |
| 20:34.26 | gzamboni | lol, i cooked my imx233 from olimex when playing around with the gpios |
| 20:34.50 | gzamboni | gotta buy another uSD, will keep uSDs dedicated to the boards |
| 20:34.53 | debianin | cook=burk, install |
| 20:34.59 | debianin | cook=burn, install |
| 20:35.15 | gzamboni | i will to it tomorow debianin |
| 20:35.17 | debianin | i did install linaro on 2G |
| 20:35.24 | gzamboni | as i dont have any uSD free around |
| 20:35.30 | debianin | ok |
| 20:35.43 | debianin | already decided what distro to install? |
| 20:35.56 | gzamboni | i think i will buy a 8 gb |
| 20:36.01 | gzamboni | probably debian |
| 20:36.06 | gzamboni | as im used to it |
| 20:36.23 | debianin | good boy :) |
| 20:36.57 | gzamboni | but at the end for the application i will try to use buildroot with reduced libraries and minimal stuff needed |
| 20:37.10 | debianin | there is a tool running on windows that allow to ustall a dozen od different distro. |
| 20:37.12 | gzamboni | even if with the this board we do have resources .. |
| 20:37.35 | gzamboni | with a system readonly and a partition with the configs and dynamic data |
| 20:38.05 | debianin | i think we should create a repository of images ready to be downloaded and DDed to uSD |
| 20:38.18 | gzamboni | busybox is enougth for a lot of things |
| 20:38.24 | debianin | ah, readnony and dinamic interesting. |
| 20:39.09 | gzamboni | i got some excelents slides on pdf from free electrons |
| 20:39.09 | debianin | busybox is ok for embedded, if i install a "similar-to-PC" distro, i prefere the more complete and standard bash and related application, prorams and tools |
| 20:39.27 | debianin | free electrons? what is that? |
| 20:39.42 | gzamboni | i think its the best didatic material i have read about embedded systems |
| 20:40.04 | gzamboni | http://free-electrons.com/doc/training/embedded-linux/slides.pdf |
| 20:40.11 | debianin | mnice, i read |
| 20:40.26 | gzamboni | i learned some interesting things over there |
| 20:41.06 | gzamboni | the 2 rich package is 512mb ? |
| 20:41.17 | debianin | 528 slices!!! |
| 20:41.18 | gzamboni | of ddr3 sdram ? |
| 20:42.32 | gzamboni | yeah, but just jump what you already know |
| 20:43.35 | debianin | yep |
| 20:46.03 | debianin | gzamboni, afaik, there is not a pure debian istallation avaiable: do you user debostrap tool to do it? |
| 20:46.43 | gzamboni | yes, its the best and esiast way i know |
| 20:47.18 | debianin | at the endo of process there wll be a real and pure debian isntallation at 100% ? |
| 20:47.25 | mnemoc | someone made a recent debian armhf rootfs iirc |
| 20:47.42 | gzamboni | sure debianin |
| 20:47.47 | debianin | mnemoc, do you talk about rasbian? |
| 20:48.03 | mnemoc | i don't talk about anything starting with ras |
| 20:48.07 | gzamboni | well, its a nude installation, after you will have to apt-get install everything you will need |
| 20:48.08 | debianin | gzamboni, there are a link to isntruction to foolw to do all the process with debootstrap? |
| 20:48.35 | gzamboni | what does iirc means ? |
| 20:48.45 | debianin | i i rembemer correctly |
| 20:48.55 | debianin | If I Rembemer Correctly |
| 20:49.01 | gzamboni | loo, i am a noobie |
| 20:49.24 | debianin | to ave a CLI is enough for me, then i will play apt-get |
| 20:50.04 | gzamboni | debianin i think there is one on cnx |
| 20:50.12 | debianin | link me pls. |
| 20:50.17 | gzamboni | its for the mele, but it works on the cubieboard |
| 20:50.41 | gzamboni | let me search for it |
| 20:50.50 | mnemoc | http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/rellla/debian-unstable-armhf.tar.bz2 |
| 20:50.56 | mnemoc | ^--- debian rootfs |
| 20:51.14 | gzamboni | one sec, my internet is so slow, im using my android phone internet as my adsl is not syncronizing |
| 20:51.27 | debianin | ok ok take your time, gzamboni |
| 20:51.30 | gzamboni | mnemoc is faster then me |
| 20:52.12 | gzamboni | try this one: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Building_Debian_From_Source_Code_for_Mele/ |
| 20:52.21 | debianin | tnk |
| 20:52.43 | gzamboni | it wasnt cnx, but rhombustech |
| 20:52.49 | mnemoc | the tarball I pasted will save you a long an annoying debootstrap |
| 20:52.49 | debianin | do you know 100% it works? |
| 20:53.03 | gzamboni | anyway the process is the same, just get the idea |
| 20:53.13 | debianin | ok tkns to both :) |
| 20:53.35 | Waterfox | o3o |
| 20:53.37 | gzamboni | maybe you will have to put the modules compiled from the kernel on the filesystem |
| 20:54.06 | gzamboni | dunno as i have not already done it on allwinner |
| 20:55.12 | debianin | gzamboni, the link you passed me... well, the operation can be done on a normal x86 that will create a image for ARM cpu, right? |
| 20:55.24 | mnemoc | yes |
| 20:55.52 | gzamboni | yes |
| 20:56.01 | debianin | ggod |
| 20:56.18 | debianin | now i know how to spend my xmas holiday :D |
| 20:59.05 | gzamboni | i have the 2012-09-09 rev, is there any difference to the last one ? |
| 20:59.21 | gzamboni | i think there is even a serial number on my boards |
| 21:00.20 | mnemoc | gzamboni: minor fixes on the pcb |
| 21:01.44 | gzamboni | debianin, apapt yourself to the tuto as i see there are some olds gits repo on it |
| 21:02.10 | gzamboni | get the repo from http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard |
| 21:02.12 | debianin | apapt? |
| 21:03.10 | gzamboni | yes, this tuto is old, just get the idea |
| 21:03.31 | gzamboni | or wait me do it tomorow, i will create a tuto for linux-sunxi.org |
| 21:03.47 | gzamboni | if there isnt one already |
| 21:08.56 | gzamboni | well gotta go. bye bye, now im happy with my cubieboards :) |
| 21:09.55 | qermit | http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184399_10200153688353800_1426659652_n.jpg |
| 21:11.05 | debianin | gzamboni, ok i will wait for your tutorial. |
| 21:21.13 | buZz | meh |
| 21:21.26 | buZz | would it have been SO hard just to compile ALL the wireless drivers in the kernel? |
| 21:21.35 | buZz | hates cleaning up other ppls mess |
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| 23:31.21 | hno | Bisqwit, nothing, just bad tab completion. |
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