| 01:05.47 | ganbold | does uart uses interrupt? if so what interrupt? |
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| 02:28.23 | ganbold | does anybody have A10 spec? |
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| 07:59.28 | johang | hno: lund! |
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| 08:42.44 | LIki | is there any cases available for cubieboard? |
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| 09:52.33 | jelly | hi, how do I notify hipboi of address change before shipping? I've received an update that said shipping has started in earnest.. |
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| 10:38.05 | ganbold | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.27 | rellla | http://linux-sunxi.org/images/3/33/A10_Datasheet.pdf |
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| 11:23.21 | mnemoc | ganbold: the best reference you'll have is the code in hno's u-boot sunxi-current and the mainlined core in linux arm-soc's for-next |
| 11:24.00 | mnemoc | ganbold: there is no official documentation with enough depth to implement anything |
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| 12:00.21 | user_ | i guess why is not possible to install a normal distro using a DVD connected via usb. |
| 12:01.57 | pidpawel | because its not x86 or x86_64 |
| 12:03.34 | user_ | ok, but what is the difference that does not allow to ARM to do that? |
| 12:08.58 | Sv2 | user_, if the distro was ARM-based, it would work |
| 12:09.08 | Sv2 | i think debian does make armhf isos, if i recall correctly |
| 12:09.38 | Sv2 | i think what pidpawel meant is most distribs only have isos made for x86/x64, thus wouldn't work |
| 12:10.42 | mnemoc | you can't "just boot" a generic arm distro. need a board specific bootloader and kernel and modules |
| 12:11.05 | pidpawel | yes. the bootloader is main problem |
| 12:11.22 | user_ | Sv2, i home in debian 7 (the next stable) that have a version for ARMv7. the qeustion is: if i connect a cubieboard to an external cd/dvd reader using usb port, can cubieboad boot from cd/dvd and start a normal istallation process as it is normal on debian for x86 on a normal PC x86 based? |
| 12:11.33 | mnemoc | user_: no |
| 12:11.35 | Sv2 | no |
| 12:11.54 | user_ | why no? because cubueboard has not bios? |
| 12:13.18 | mnemoc | user_: it can boot from mmc (uSD), not usb |
| 12:14.32 | user_ | so have I to "reverse" debian 1st cd on a uSD to make it bootable and use to install on 4G flash on board? |
| 12:15.07 | pidpawel | why do you want to run "normal installation" |
| 12:15.25 | pidpawel | its commonw to use tools like debootstrap for embedded installations |
| 12:16.33 | user_ | "why do you want to run "normal installation"" <--- why i should not want? i did it for 15 years, why i have to change my use? |
| 12:17.18 | user_ | take in mind that ARM will go inside pc soon, so to have a "statndard" way of isntallation will help newbies |
| 12:21.37 | pidpawel | i dont know if it will go in pc soon but, your approach seems to be reasonable only when you look from users side |
| 12:22.00 | pidpawel | arm boards dont have anything like bios, everything is done by its bootloader |
| 12:22.49 | pidpawel | most of bootloaders have to be custom for exact board |
| 12:23.24 | pidpawel | so there is no method of creating one, unified bootloader |
| 12:23.55 | user_ | yes, that is a probelm. linux 3.7 is trying to solve it. |
| 12:24.05 | pidpawel | so programmers time is spent for creating new one from scratch rather than extending festures of existing ones. |
| 12:24.13 | pidpawel | how? |
| 12:25.46 | mnemoc | user_: single kernel relies in a file describing the board |
| 12:26.27 | mnemoc | user_: you still need per-board bootloader |
| 12:26.34 | user_ | pidpawel, i justo read a new on magazine, no further info i have. |
| 12:26.53 | pidpawel | oh. ive forgotten about need of dedicated kernels for each board ;) |
| 12:28.01 | user_ | as far as i understood, 3.7 try to be compatible out-of-the-box with larger quantity of soc arm-based. but i dont know the details. |
| 12:28.55 | mnemoc | user_: the bootloader needs to pass a file (device tree) telling the kernel what's there |
| 12:29.32 | mnemoc | user_: but it still relies in a board specific bootloader |
| 12:29.39 | mnemoc | at least platform specific |
| 12:29.40 | user_ | mnemoc, i trust your words. simply i reported a info i read, but i dont assume responzability about it :) |
| 12:30.24 | mnemoc | user_: the goal is to clean the kernel sources, and help distributions to maintain less kernel packages |
| 12:30.37 | mnemoc | user_: not to let you boot a generic dvd |
| 12:31.35 | user_ | i know they want to discontinue 386 support, and reduce complexity about ARM. just that. lets wait some weeks to have more info. |
| 12:37.56 | federico3 | any news on the shipment of the rich packages? |
| 12:41.24 | mnemoc | federico3: they sent an update via indiegogo today |
| 12:42.35 | buZz | cubieboard really needs a communicator |
| 12:42.42 | buZz | some that updates all the websites etc |
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| 13:35.52 | gzamboni | user_ is right: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges 1.1. ARM multi-platform support |
| 13:36.30 | gzamboni | http://lwn.net/Articles/496400/ |
| 13:50.55 | federico3 | mnemoc: thanks |
| 14:00.42 | SquirrelCZECH | it's great :-) |
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| 14:31.40 | mnemoc | gzamboni: multi-platform relies on a file (dts) passed by the bootloader |
| 14:32.23 | mnemoc | gzamboni: it does allow to share a vmlinuz file, but not to share bootloaders or to make generic images like on x86 |
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| 14:36.11 | gzamboni | so thats pointless if for embedeed you should compile the kernel with the minimal driver support that you will need |
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| 14:42.57 | mnemoc | gzamboni: if you want to compile a kernel for a single platform you can include the dts within the vmlinuz file |
| 14:47.57 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: does linux depends on u-boot settings before boot? |
| 14:48.54 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: and what role sunxi-spl.bin plays? |
| 14:49.44 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: as I understand brom seeks SPL which is sunxi-spl.bin and in turn SPL seeks u-boot, am I right? |
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| 14:50.31 | mnemoc | ganbold_: u-boot spl initializes the dram, voltages and the mmc controller, then loads the fat u-boot |
| 14:50.48 | mnemoc | ganbold_: linux relies in the dram been already initialized |
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| 14:51.35 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: so uart/serial setting in u-boot is really doesn't matter for linux? |
| 14:53.17 | mnemoc | ganbold_: linux reinitialize them |
| 14:54.44 | mnemoc | u-boot obviusly initializes the uart0 to have a console to interact with the people. then linux does it again |
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| 14:55.06 | mnemoc | u-boot's is currently hardcoded, linux's is in script.bin |
| 14:55.18 | mnemoc | multi-platform linux has it hardcoded :| |
| 14:55.19 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: ok, and seems uart is compatible with ns16550, I guess nothing special coding in it |
| 14:55.30 | mnemoc | ganbold_: the pins |
| 14:55.43 | mnemoc | ganbold_: you need to tell the SoC what pins to use for uart0 |
| 14:56.08 | mnemoc | after that you talk ns16550 against a known register |
| 14:56.13 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: so otherwise linux doesn't see it? |
| 14:56.22 | mnemoc | linux will do it again |
| 14:56.36 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: if I don't load script.bin, what linux can do? |
| 14:56.45 | mnemoc | nothing |
| 14:57.02 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: so it can't find uart in this case, right? |
| 14:57.59 | mnemoc | linux has the idea of an "early console", which will make it write to the register of uart0 without reinitializing it |
| 14:59.31 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: I'm having trouble with setting up uart when booting from freebsd kernel |
| 14:59.34 | gzamboni | mnemoc cant we bypass the u-boot and boot directly the kernel image from the spl ? |
| 15:00.13 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: and I can access to uart address directly to print characters, but not more than that |
| 15:01.43 | ganbold_ | mnemoc: so script.bin tells linux what pins to use for uart? |
| 15:26.42 | mnemoc | ganbold_: for every feature the SoC supports, including uart |
| 15:27.20 | mnemoc | gzamboni: only if the kernel is written raw, without a filesystem |
| 15:27.32 | mnemoc | gzamboni: because the SPL is too small to know about filesystems |
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| 16:29.31 | buZz | man, luffy is not really skilled at emailing O_o |
| 16:29.47 | buZz | also, he is _very_ skilled at being weird and vague :P |
| 16:30.36 | buZz | my china originating cubieboard is being shipped from New York? |
| 16:31.36 | mnemoc | some times couriers use bulk forwarding |
| 16:31.48 | mnemoc | instead of sending one by one from origin |
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| 16:34.39 | pidpawel | have anyone tried connecting ssd to cb? |
| 16:35.02 | pidpawel | mnemoc: how many MB/s do you have on your sata multiplexer? |
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| 16:42.08 | buZz | mnemoc: well i hope this is the case |
| 16:42.17 | buZz | sata multiplexer works on cubieboard? :O |
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| 16:45.21 | mnemoc | buZz: only if the multiplier emulates a single drive |
| 16:45.26 | buZz | ah right |
| 16:45.30 | buZz | that always works :D |
| 16:45.54 | mnemoc | pidpawel: hdparm was like 120MB/s the last time I tested. but I have touched my cubie in over a month |
| 16:46.35 | pidpawel | do you have any comparison with 1 single sata disk without multiplexer? |
| 16:46.55 | pidpawel | or same hdd combination with multiplexer connected to standard PC? |
| 16:47.07 | mnemoc | same hdparm on a 320GB HDD I used to get 50-55 |
| 16:47.25 | pidpawel | im just curious if cb can be boosted by using ssd ;) |
| 16:47.25 | mnemoc | 2.5" drive vs. 2x3.5" on the raid device |
| 16:47.45 | pidpawel | seems nice |
| 16:49.07 | gzamboni | yeap, my cubies are on the way |
| 16:49.30 | gzamboni | for the 2nd time, i hope they will get delivered this time |
| 16:49.55 | buZz | my cubie _should_ be on its way |
| 16:49.59 | buZz | but DHL tracking says no :( |
| 16:50.22 | gzamboni | just dont understand why they come from NewYork, US |
| 16:50.32 | buZz | ah, same with you? |
| 16:50.36 | gzamboni | once they are made in China |
| 16:50.56 | buZz | maybe its cheaper to send with DHL from US vs from CN |
| 16:51.30 | buZz | or maybe they just used a US account to make the DHL shipments |
| 16:51.33 | gzamboni | so you think they sent it to US to send all around the globe ? |
| 16:51.43 | buZz | sounds weird yeah |
| 16:51.44 | gzamboni | or they just made some boards over there |
| 16:51.52 | buZz | that, i dont believe :) |
| 16:52.05 | buZz | US manufacturing is slightly worse than chinese and WAY more expensive |
| 16:52.17 | gzamboni | i agree |
| 16:52.32 | morfoh | gzamboni: where are you located ? |
| 16:52.34 | buZz | i hope its just a US account, so the new york got entered automagically |
| 16:52.45 | gzamboni | France, in the countryside, 160km from Bordeaux |
| 16:52.55 | morfoh | ah ic :) |
| 16:53.31 | buZz | netherlands |
| 16:53.34 | morfoh | I got a package via DHL today ... shipped in hong-kong yesterday... but no cubieboards |
| 16:53.43 | gzamboni | maybe now thats coming from US the french post wont just return it to the sender as the last time. |
| 16:53.46 | morfoh | it took 1 day to berlin |
| 16:53.52 | buZz | morfoh: awesomely fast :D |
| 16:53.57 | morfoh | yes :D |
| 16:54.12 | gzamboni | packages from olimex i get the next day also. |
| 16:54.13 | buZz | had his cubie sent to work, at least there i know CERTAIN someone will be there to accept the package ;) |
| 16:54.16 | gzamboni | Olimex is in Bulgaria |
| 16:54.29 | morfoh | it came to leipzig airport directly from hong-kong |
| 16:54.57 | morfoh | and the local courier got it 6:30am today |
| 16:55.06 | gzamboni | they didnt come to my home, they just returned to the sender telling the adress was wrong, and it wasnt |
| 16:55.23 | morfoh | but he tried to fool me first ... telling that he tried to deliver it but nobody was home |
| 16:55.24 | buZz | mailmans can be SOOO lazy |
| 16:55.28 | morfoh | which was wrong |
| 16:55.35 | buZz | insane |
| 16:55.42 | buZz | was a mailman for a year :D |
| 16:55.51 | morfoh | oh |
| 16:56.14 | morfoh | well ... it is a hard job from what I am seeing |
| 16:56.15 | buZz | i have seen mailmans just DUMP all mail |
| 16:56.18 | gzamboni | Lussant 17430 France |
| 16:56.22 | buZz | mailbags laying around, never being delivered |
| 16:56.23 | buZz | etc etc |
| 16:56.28 | buZz | its such a mess :S |
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| 16:56.45 | gzamboni | yeah, i was so pissed off |
| 16:56.57 | buZz | also, the 'care' they put in packages with 'fragile' written on it O_O |
| 16:57.11 | buZz | makes me want to ship nitroglycerine |
| 16:57.17 | gzamboni | well, i live in a new street, it has 1 year, but post delivery guys should know new addresses |
| 16:57.30 | buZz | yes its their job |
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| 16:57.38 | buZz | if they have a bill they can find you easily |
| 16:57.43 | gzamboni | soon after i added in google maps |
| 16:57.50 | buZz | but if its something you actually want .... |
| 16:57.53 | gzamboni | thats for sure |
| 16:58.09 | gzamboni | it had even my celphone number in the package |
| 16:58.50 | gzamboni | December, i think it will have a lot of post issues in this month |
| 16:59.06 | gzamboni | stolen packages, not delivered |
| 16:59.14 | gzamboni | damaged packages |
| 17:00.07 | morfoh | well... in my case I'm curious if they send me the right device |
| 17:00.16 | morfoh | :) |
| 17:00.23 | gzamboni | people here are kind of against china politics, they think because of it they are loosing jobs and companies and industry are leaving the country |
| 17:01.00 | morfoh | that is a fairy tale |
| 17:01.20 | morfoh | china bashing is very hip again |
| 17:02.00 | morfoh | why isn't apple producing in the US ? |
| 17:02.20 | morfoh | they can put a stamp on "proudly made in the US" |
| 17:02.24 | buZz | morfoh: lol |
| 17:02.33 | buZz | US production is a) expensive b) derpstyle |
| 17:02.44 | morfoh | I saw such a similar thing on a website |
| 17:02.47 | morfoh | lemme check |
| 17:03.25 | morfoh | ah no ... it was a simple "made in USA" :) |
| 17:03.26 | gzamboni | they say that the BRICS polytics of US dollars and euros reserves is a kidnap to its economies. that this money is blocked. and what makes jobs is the money turning around |
| 17:03.30 | morfoh | http://www.yassl.com/yaSSL/Home.html |
| 17:04.13 | morfoh | the funny thing was that on another irc channel some guy said that the yassl people asked him to extend their library |
| 17:04.22 | gzamboni | i think they made a logo here in France, Made in France |
| 17:04.29 | morfoh | and guess ... the guy is not living in the US :D |
| 17:04.40 | morfoh | but in austria :) |
| 17:05.03 | morfoh | that nationalism is b***shit anyway |
| 17:05.06 | buZz | borders are a lie |
| 17:05.48 | morfoh | yes |
| 17:06.02 | buZz | understands morfoh |
| 17:06.17 | gzamboni | i wonder why there is no "opensource" cars in the market yet. |
| 17:06.40 | gzamboni | or other regular stuffs we use everyday |
| 17:07.11 | morfoh | because joe-average-consumer is giving a shit on that |
| 17:07.13 | gzamboni | or standarts for the assembly of a motor |
| 17:08.10 | mnemoc | iirc samsung and lg manufacture in .kr paying decent (by western standards) salaries |
| 17:09.13 | buZz | gzamboni: because the ppl who care about opensource dont care about owning or building a car |
| 17:09.42 | buZz | gzamboni: there are a lot of 'opensource' bikes, 'bakbrommers', transport bikes, electric skateboards, segway-clones, etc |
| 17:10.15 | gzamboni | this is the future |
| 17:10.44 | buZz | the future has been now for a couple of years ;) |
| 17:11.13 | buZz | wants to build a 'bakbrommer' next year, and join the racing contest they hold each year here in .nl :P |
| 17:11.25 | buZz | loves building and racing :D |
| 17:11.48 | buZz | 18:06:53 < gzamboni> or other regular stuffs we use everyday |
| 17:11.59 | buZz | did you ever see all the stuff ppl post on thingiverse.com ? |
| 17:12.46 | morfoh | buZz: what is a "bakbrommer" ? ... sound like "backofen" :p |
| 17:12.54 | buZz | wants to design a special purpose cubieboard case, which will also get uploaded to thingiverse, for other people to print |
| 17:12.55 | morfoh | backofen on wheels :D |
| 17:13.08 | buZz | lemme find you a pic |
| 17:13.35 | buZz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brombakbrommer.jpg |
| 17:13.38 | gzamboni | didnt know this site |
| 17:13.45 | buZz | although that one is a bit derpy :P |
| 17:14.24 | buZz | gzamboni: its part of the current personal-digital-fabrication revolution |
| 17:14.52 | gzamboni | do you have experience in making cases ? |
| 17:14.54 | morfoh | :D |
| 17:15.04 | gzamboni | what will you use to do it ? acrylic ? |
| 17:15.09 | buZz | gzamboni: yeah i made a raspi case |
| 17:15.17 | buZz | i will 3D print from PLA plastic |
| 17:15.21 | morfoh | damn ... hope you will only drive alone with your bakbrommer |
| 17:15.35 | gzamboni | how do you 3D print it ? |
| 17:16.03 | buZz | morfoh: for the races someone needs to ride upfront, for balance |
| 17:16.12 | morfoh | oh no |
| 17:16.13 | buZz | gzamboni: with a 3D printer? click here http://embed.bambuser.com/channel/buzztiaan |
| 17:16.25 | buZz | morfoh: oh YES |
| 17:16.30 | morfoh | :D |
| 17:16.31 | buZz | morfoh: i drove upfront 2 years ;) |
| 17:16.47 | morfoh | and no bones broken yet ? |
| 17:16.53 | buZz | no, i am immortal :P |
| 17:17.00 | morfoh | aha ... ic :p |
| 17:19.11 | gzamboni | buzz, its your chan ? |
| 17:19.19 | gzamboni | what are you 3d printing ? |
| 17:19.22 | buZz | yes that is my printer |
| 17:19.29 | buZz | atm i am printing parts for another 3d printer |
| 17:19.31 | buZz | on request |
| 17:19.56 | gzamboni | thats awesome |
| 17:20.10 | buZz | they are supereasy to build ;) |
| 17:20.25 | user_ | where can i find a HI RESOLUITON image of cubieboard from top? i want to print in large size for the school |
| 17:20.35 | morfoh | cannot see it ... my shitty flashplugin crashes :/ |
| 17:21.17 | mnemoc | user_: maybe http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/pictures/cubieboard-2012-08-08/ can do what you want |
| 17:21.26 | gzamboni | buzz is there a howto anywhere ? |
| 17:21.36 | gzamboni | lol, i gotta build one |
| 17:22.16 | user_ | mnemoc, thank you. |
| 17:22.23 | mnemoc | user_: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/pictures/cubieboard-2012-08-08/DSCF4279.JPG seems decendt |
| 17:22.27 | mnemoc | decent* |
| 17:23.02 | morfoh | buZz: I'd like to see your 3D printer too, but I guess I have to check later from home ;) |
| 17:23.07 | buZz | gzamboni: http://reprap.org/ |
| 17:23.14 | buZz | morfoh: channel url will keep working |
| 17:23.24 | buZz | there are recordings of previous prints aswell |
| 17:23.30 | morfoh | maybe our scientific firewall at work is doing bad things |
| 17:23.37 | buZz | morfoh: http://nurdspace.nl/3D_Printer_0 |
| 17:24.03 | user_ | yes it is my preferred, i will use that. |
| 17:24.43 | morfoh | buZz: :) |
| 17:40.25 | morfoh | bbl |
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| 19:39.51 | gzamboni | buzz, thats incredible this 3D printer idea |
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| 19:56.46 | buZz | gzamboni: its no longer an idea :D |
| 19:56.54 | buZz | gzamboni: did you ever read Make Magazine? |
| 19:57.44 | buZz | gzamboni: if so, or not, check out this edition; http://buzz.spacedout.nl/fablab/Make_3D_Printing_web.pdf |
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| 21:19.24 | gzamboni | buzz, yes i do, now i understand |
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| 21:54.49 | buZz | gzamboni: awesome :) if you need printed parts just ask ;) my prices are reasonable |
| 21:56.51 | morfoh | :) |
| 21:57.30 | morfoh | I had luck btw, they have send exactly what I ordered :p |
| 21:57.53 | buZz | you just received it? |
| 21:58.33 | morfoh | well... I received it in the late afternoon |
| 21:58.42 | morfoh | when being at work |
| 21:58.48 | buZz | did it contain cubieboards? :D |
| 21:59.12 | morfoh | nope ... I told you that this delivery had nothing to do with cubieboards :) |
| 21:59.16 | buZz | ah right |
| 21:59.21 | buZz | so, what was in it? |
| 21:59.46 | morfoh | I ordered a phone for my girlfriend :) |
| 21:59.54 | buZz | ha, which phone? |
| 22:00.06 | morfoh | jiayu g3 |
| 22:00.36 | buZz | ooo nice |
| 22:00.40 | buZz | even dualcore |
| 22:00.42 | morfoh | yes |
| 22:00.49 | morfoh | and a very nice display |
| 22:00.58 | morfoh | with gorilla glas |
| 22:01.07 | buZz | i dont like this big screen though |
| 22:01.16 | buZz | reminds me of my old HP iPaq phones |
| 22:01.20 | morfoh | hehe |
| 22:01.24 | buZz | NOT nice :P |
| 22:01.35 | morfoh | well... now she told me that I should use it ;) |
| 22:01.40 | buZz | lol |
| 22:01.44 | buZz | going to swap? |
| 22:01.56 | buZz | is there cyanogenmod available for that jiayu? :D |
| 22:01.58 | morfoh | because my nearly 12y old phone is slowly going to hell :) |
| 22:02.11 | buZz | ah retrophone |
| 22:02.18 | buZz | yeah you should upgrade :) |
| 22:02.34 | buZz | its nice to have a linux computer in your pocket running all day ;) |
| 22:02.41 | morfoh | uh :) |
| 22:02.44 | morfoh | of course |
| 22:02.57 | buZz | you run linux on a 12y old phone? :O |
| 22:03.00 | morfoh | our household is completely M$ free :) |
| 22:03.12 | morfoh | well ... symbian it is :) |
| 22:03.15 | buZz | ah ok :) |
| 22:03.34 | buZz | not even latest symbian probably? |
| 22:03.43 | buZz | upgrades were hard back in the day |
| 22:03.47 | morfoh | I don't even know how to deal with post XP stuff |
| 22:04.02 | morfoh | nah |
| 22:04.02 | buZz | i do, just complain a lot that you cant find shit :P |
| 22:04.12 | morfoh | :D |
| 22:04.42 | morfoh | I won't try to solve that "issue" :) |
| 22:04.50 | buZz | hrhr |
| 22:04.52 | morfoh | I cannot deal with it ... so what ?!?! ;) |
| 22:05.01 | buZz | well i get paid to work with windows |
| 22:05.03 | buZz | so meh |
| 22:05.10 | morfoh | I use linux machines everywhere |
| 22:05.21 | buZz | same here, for all my own stuff |
| 22:05.27 | morfoh | also at work |
| 22:05.40 | buZz | used to |
| 22:05.47 | buZz | but i stopped doing 'work i enjoy' |
| 22:05.54 | buZz | as it will suck me dry |
| 22:05.59 | morfoh | well ... the stuff I am doing at work is based on linux |
| 22:06.02 | buZz | into investing all my free time into more work |
| 22:06.19 | buZz | which i do not like, as i like my free time |
| 22:06.25 | buZz | so i just work 24 hrs a week |
| 22:06.33 | buZz | hunting bugs in some crappy windows program |
| 22:06.41 | morfoh | :) |
| 22:06.49 | buZz | which i dont like, so wont invest my time & soul into |
| 22:06.57 | buZz | world saved \p/ |
| 22:06.59 | buZz | \o/ |
| 22:07.01 | morfoh | well |
| 22:07.09 | morfoh | that is a kind of strategy |
| 22:07.25 | buZz | its mine and i like it |
| 22:07.38 | buZz | it allows me to run a hackerspace and now help startup a fablab next to it |
| 22:07.41 | morfoh | sure... it wasn't sarcastic |
| 22:07.55 | buZz | oh me neither, dont worry :) |
| 22:07.55 | morfoh | I understand very well |
| 22:08.18 | buZz | is quite laid back |
| 22:08.38 | buZz | i dont need to rush anything, can help where and what i want, all the freedom in the world :P |
| 22:08.41 | buZz | well |
| 22:08.45 | buZz | beside running linux for my dayjob |
| 22:08.56 | morfoh | problem is, if you are like to do sth. some upper "layers" in the company you work for will steadily trying to exploit you |
| 22:09.06 | buZz | they gave me root to all server on the 3rd day i worked there |
| 22:09.19 | buZz | and it was unupdated suse linux for >5 years |
| 22:09.23 | buZz | terrible mess |
| 22:09.46 | buZz | also unfixable, as suse just doesnt upgrade over versions |
| 22:10.14 | morfoh | :/ |
| 22:10.18 | buZz | and they dont even _want_ me to fix it really |
| 22:10.32 | buZz | sooo i will never lose my soul at work :D yay! |
| 22:11.08 | morfoh | I do not really deal with major distros |
| 22:11.32 | buZz | well, debian is nice |
| 22:11.37 | buZz | imho :) |
| 22:12.38 | morfoh | last time I had to touch a suse it was at my former job setting up a cluster for some "fancy" german telecom which like to have strange pink colors :p |
| 22:12.49 | morfoh | and they wanted suse |
| 22:13.03 | morfoh | so they got the crap |
| 22:13.04 | morfoh | :D |
| 22:13.46 | buZz | hehe |
| 22:13.52 | buZz | yeah i dont like suse that much either |
| 22:14.04 | morfoh | in fact I like to build my own stuff |
| 22:14.26 | morfoh | and that is what one of the major parts is I am doing at work |
| 22:15.10 | morfoh | but for my hobby ideas there isn't much room anymore since my little daughter was born 2y ago |
| 22:15.49 | buZz | nice, so you are looking at cubieboard for work stuffs? |
| 22:15.58 | morfoh | but still doing what I used to do together with my dear friend mnemoc :p |
| 22:16.07 | buZz | :) |
| 22:16.34 | morfoh | even if he is not that active anymore within our project :p |
| 22:16.37 | morfoh | hint hint :D |
| 22:17.06 | buZz | lol |
| 22:17.07 | morfoh | but I like him a lot and I know that he has lots of other things to do :) |
| 22:17.44 | buZz | i am mostly interested in cubieboard for a laptop project i am working on |
| 22:17.54 | buZz | cubieboard will be the mainboard |
| 22:17.57 | morfoh | and maybe I will have some time in the near future to make sth. cubieboard related |
| 22:18.01 | buZz | in a upgradable laptop :P |
| 22:18.11 | morfoh | modular thingy ? |
| 22:18.26 | buZz | yeah, ment for cellphones, 'webtop' motorola called it :)\ |
| 22:19.07 | buZz | i am just remixing offtheshelf stuff to make my own ultimate laptop |
| 22:19.09 | morfoh | well ... I am more a "network guy" and I'd like to have sth. similare with min. 2 gigabit nics on it :D |
| 22:19.13 | buZz | no deadline, no customer, etc :P |
| 22:19.21 | buZz | heh |
| 22:19.33 | buZz | isnt there a soekris with gbit? or routerboard? |
| 22:20.04 | morfoh | soekris I haven't checked for quite some time now |
| 22:20.19 | morfoh | and routerboard ... well... |
| 22:20.21 | buZz | me neither, but it sounds plausible |
| 22:20.44 | morfoh | I want to get more into non x86 based stuff ;) |
| 22:20.56 | morfoh | and the last time they only had thatstuff |
| 22:21.02 | buZz | yeah i agree x86 is boring |
| 22:21.33 | buZz | i started collecting game consoles just because of their sexy cpu architectures :P |
| 22:21.59 | morfoh | guess your are living in a "lab" :p |
| 22:22.17 | buZz | i am living in a shed, but i spend a _LOT_ of time in our hackerspace :D |
| 22:22.20 | morfoh | saying good night to your 3d printer every night :D |
| 22:22.33 | buZz | hehe no, i dont sleep near the hardware |
| 22:22.42 | morfoh | ok :) |
| 22:23.12 | buZz | well, near _some_ hardware, of course :P |
| 22:23.51 | buZz | but the hackerspace is just a ~2 minute walk from my house |
| 22:24.14 | morfoh | :) |
| 22:25.00 | mnemoc | the mirabox has dualgigabit ethernet and dual usb3 |
| 22:33.06 | morfoh | mnemoc: yup ... we talked about that :) |
| 23:39.17 | debianin | mnemoc, if you hear hiboi, tell him to chec mailbox and reply :) |
| 23:45.36 | mnemoc | debianin: checking his mailbox probably has more priority than coming to irc |
| 23:45.54 | debianin | so i hope in a fast answer then :) |
| 23:46.03 | mnemoc | no idea |
| 23:46.31 | mnemoc | I only mean that I won't "see" him before he has seen your mail |
| 23:47.03 | mnemoc | that doesn't imply it will be soon, or that you'll get a reply at all |
| 23:47.25 | mnemoc | only that if he is too busy to do email, he won't come at all |
| 23:48.13 | debianin | got it |
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