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| 00:47.06 | buZz | ooooo my cubie has been sent \o/ |
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| 04:02.21 | ganbold | mnemoc, hno, what is the role of script.bin? |
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| 08:14.41 | RaYmAn | ganbold: it's essentially allwinners custom device tree implementation (incompatible with anything else of course) |
| 08:16.21 | ganbold | RaYmAn: and only for linux I guess |
| 08:21.15 | RaYmAn | it's used by the linux kernel, yes (which means linux & android) |
| 08:26.17 | kocka | buZz: where did you find the info? |
| 08:26.59 | jelly-home | still wonders where/how to send the address change _before_ the thing is shipped to the old address |
| 08:32.52 | buZz | kocka: i emailed them |
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| 08:52.55 | kocka | ah ok |
| 08:53.15 | kocka | i thought you've been automatically notified |
| 09:18.52 | AndrevS | Morning |
| 09:30.13 | morfoh | good moaning |
| 09:31.19 | pidpawel | do you realize that today will (ie in my timezone) be 12:12:12 12.12.12? :> |
| 09:31.32 | buZz | kocka: it doesnt seem that cubieboard ppl have any automation regarding packages :D |
| 09:33.59 | user_ | pidpawel, so, wait also for 12 hour, 12 minute, and 12 seconds :) |
| 09:38.25 | AndrevS | It's 10:38 here now |
| 09:38.32 | buZz | same |
| 09:38.37 | pidpawel | 2012-12-12 10:38:26 AndrevS| It's 10:38 here now |
| 09:38.54 | AndrevS | :) |
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| 09:41.48 | AndrevS | Anyways... I was wondering about the A10 boot process. As I've seen the mention of script.bin a few hours ago. I am planning to use ArchLinuxARM when I get my cubieboard. On their forums it says, in order to boot an a A10 board, I can use the Mele A100 image, and replace the script.bin file. |
| 09:42.38 | AndrevS | However, on other sources on the internet, it seems I need a custom u-boot per board, as it needs to initialise RAM and without RAM it cannot parse script.bin |
| 09:43.26 | AndrevS | So... what do I need to boot the cubieboard? |
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| 10:31.33 | gzamboni | well, i think i will never get my cubieboard |
| 10:32.59 | rjd_ | gzamboni: what make you think that? |
| 10:36.24 | gzamboni | my package got back to china, aliexpress tells i got refunded, but i wasnt, i payed by paypal 2 rich packages as a solution to send me the boards before getting refunded but they didnt send it yet |
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| 10:37.11 | rjd_ | hm, I paid for one rich package but havent heard anything at all |
| 10:37.24 | rjd_ | where did you get information about the shipment? By email? |
| 10:38.14 | gzamboni | i hope people will have it |
| 10:38.34 | ganbold | AndrevS: sunxi-spl.bin, and u-boot.bin at least to see u-boot prompt when you use SD |
| 10:38.48 | gzamboni | yes, but they should have a better english, its hard even to understand what they say |
| 10:39.58 | gzamboni | i get phrases like: if i have ship is,i will give you the ship number. |
| 10:40.19 | gzamboni | i supose it is, when i will ship it i will give you the ship number |
| 10:40.49 | gzamboni | another: i hace ship it and you can ask me to give you the ship number. |
| 10:41.30 | gzamboni | i supose he meant: once i will ship it you can ask me to give you the tracking number |
| 10:41.49 | rjd_ | so you had to email and ask for it? |
| 10:42.04 | gzamboni | i know i dont have a good english neither but well, i think im understandable |
| 10:42.18 | AndrevS | ganbold, do they have to be specific versions for the cubieboard? if so, where to download them? |
| 10:42.28 | gzamboni | this was the answer of my mail asking the tracking number |
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| 11:05.15 | ganbold | AndrevS: sunxi-spl.bin I think you can use it from ready ones somewhere |
| 11:05.40 | ganbold | AndrevS: u-boot.bin I guess too, unless you need specific features of u-boot |
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| 11:06.34 | ganbold | AndrevS: but if you want to build u-boot there is u-boot-sunxi |
| 11:06.43 | ganbold | from linux-sunxi at github |
| 11:06.49 | ganbold | hno maintains it I think |
| 11:08.04 | AndrevS | ganbold, I have been looking at that, and noticed the board-specific options at compile time. Anyhow, so a Mele A100 image would work without modification? |
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| 11:09.08 | ganbold | AndrevS: I didn't test it, so not sure, but most probably, but also you can run commands from u-boot prompt just in case |
| 11:09.23 | ganbold | like "md address" etc |
| 11:09.30 | ganbold | fatload .... etc |
| 11:09.58 | ganbold | or even ext2load |
| 11:10.08 | ganbold | to load from ext2 |
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| 11:22.47 | AndrevS | ok. I have been using uboot on a beagleboard before, so I guess I know the basics about uboot. just wanting to be sure I can get that far. let's say, just to be prepared, when my cubieboard arrives, I can start usign it right away |
| 12:09.37 | mnemoc | ganbold: script.bin tells the kernel how to use each pin of the soc and how to configure the units |
| 12:10.32 | mnemoc | ganbold: it's a dumb data table |
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| 12:19.33 | AndrevS | mnemoc, so, with a different script.bin some components of the board might not work. But the script.bin is the compiled fex file from https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards/blob/master/sys_config/a10/cubieboard.fex right? |
| 12:24.38 | AndrevS | Also, uboot is responsible for setting up memory, right? Does that include things like voltage? Can uboot/script.bin for a different board cause damage? |
| 12:29.43 | mnemoc | AndrevS: it shouldn't cause damage... but the board is likely to not work |
| 12:31.28 | mnemoc | we try to collect verified .fex files for all boards, so we can learn more about the chips, and later we are able to generate .dts files for them and make the transition from allwinner style to mainline style smoother |
| 12:33.41 | mnemoc | hwpacks are also generated for those boards for which we have verified .fex files |
| 12:35.13 | AndrevS | ok, thanks. |
| 12:35.47 | mnemoc | AndrevS: u-boot sets up the memory. from a datastructure generated out of verified .fex files |
| 12:36.42 | mnemoc | AndrevS: the normal .fex files don't come with all the info about the dram because the flashing tool (livesuit) probes it adjusts the proprietary boot0 accordingly |
| 12:37.45 | mnemoc | AndrevS: so to add a new board we need to dump the dram controller registers (using a10-meminfo) from android to complete/verify the [dram_para] section of the .fex |
| 12:38.03 | mnemoc | it's a pretty simple process these days |
| 12:38.15 | tinti | mnemoc: is there an official cyanogenmod port for cubie? |
| 12:38.36 | mnemoc | tinti: not for the cubie in particular, but for A10 |
| 12:38.52 | mnemoc | tinti: see https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/ |
| 12:39.32 | mnemoc | there is a device/allwinner/common there which needs to be sources from the device dir of each device |
| 12:40.06 | mnemoc | some more info at http://linux-sunxi.org/Starting_a_CyanogenMod_device_tree |
| 12:41.57 | mnemoc | mr1-stage branch |
| 12:43.37 | tinti | nice, they use the cyanogen tree itself |
| 12:43.50 | tinti | but what about the video drivers for hardware acceleration? |
| 12:44.56 | tinti | no open video drivers right :( |
| 12:46.15 | mnemoc | but cedarx and mali drivers are generic across all A10 and A13 devices |
| 12:46.31 | mnemoc | hopefully also for A10s, A12 and A20 |
| 12:56.06 | tinti | but still binary :S https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/android_external_cedarx/tree/master/CedarAndroidLib/LIB_ICS_F23 |
| 12:56.16 | tinti | anyway better than nothing :) |
| 13:01.12 | mnemoc | allwinner considers cedarx their most important IP. they won't ever release sources of that library.... even when it includes ffmpeg code :| |
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| 13:06.25 | AndrevS | I wonder if there is any SoC around without proprietary graphics. I'm not aware of any. |
| 13:07.04 | Turl | AndrevS: there are some without graphics at all |
| 13:07.10 | mnemoc | TI has a bunch |
| 13:07.38 | AndrevS | Let me rephrase, with open graphics. |
| 13:07.47 | mnemoc | nope |
| 13:08.20 | mnemoc | or you do neon based acceleration or you are stuck with proprietary stuff |
| 13:09.01 | mnemoc | the A10 has open 2D acceleration, but no driver to use it |
| 13:09.14 | AndrevS | How is the status of the TI drivers nowadays. I recall them having soft-float binaries, so they won't work on hard-float compiled systems. |
| 13:09.21 | mnemoc | i mean, directfb driver only |
| 13:10.05 | mnemoc | AndrevS: TI uses powervr crap, like allwinner's A31. |
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| 13:10.52 | mnemoc | in the beagleboard channel they can tell you better what's the state of their blobs |
| 13:12.46 | AndrevS | I guess I should start looking around again. I mean, I still have a BeagleBoard lying around (Rev C3. with USB issues) And yeah, I should ask there. It's just seeing TI mentioned made me wonder about this. |
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| 15:28.41 | debianin | no hiboi around? |
| 15:30.49 | mnemoc | ibot: seen hipboi |
| 15:30.55 | ibot | hipboi <~hipboi@static.88-198-149-134.clients.your-server.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #arm-netbook, 2d 23h 55m 42s ago, saying: 'the ethernet phy'. |
| 15:37.23 | debianin | mnemoc, alway ready :) |
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| 16:47.47 | SquirrelCZECH | hello folks |
| 16:47.51 | SquirrelCZECH | I've problem... |
| 16:51.03 | SquirrelCZECH | I've send a email to support@cubieboard.org and there's no response :-/ |
| 16:51.25 | pidpawel | so tell us whats your problem ;) |
| 16:53.08 | SquirrelCZECH | that I've payed for 2 rich packages and I am on holiday next week |
| 16:53.29 | SquirrelCZECH | so I am afraid that it can arrive in that term |
| 16:53.50 | tinti | SquirrelCZECH: cant you ask for some neighbor to take it |
| 16:54.26 | SquirrelCZECH | not sure if possible... |
| 16:55.57 | tinti | :S cant you let your id card and a letter there |
| 16:57.19 | SquirrelCZECH | I definetly can't let my id card somewhere :D |
| 16:57.34 | buZz | leave* |
| 16:57.53 | SquirrelCZECH | I only wanted to know if they allready send it, or what company they want to use |
| 16:58.19 | SquirrelCZECH | if I know the company I can call them and ask them etc/// |
| 16:58.37 | buZz | i think cubieboard uses DHL for most |
| 16:59.13 | mnemoc | once having the tracking number you can contact the courier to arrange the delivery |
| 16:59.26 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm, which I don't have :D |
| 16:59.31 | SquirrelCZECH | but, thanks for info |
| 16:59.49 | LKK | do we have to provide address again? |
| 16:59.53 | SquirrelCZECH | it's like when I receive the number I can move forward |
| 16:59.56 | LKK | (non rich package) |
| 17:00.39 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: When they finish sending rich packages? |
| 17:01.37 | SquirrelCZECH | if I can ask... |
| 17:02.01 | mnemoc | no idea |
| 17:02.50 | SquirrelCZECH | thanks anyway |
| 17:05.14 | SquirrelCZECH | and one last thing! |
| 17:05.35 | SquirrelCZECH | was there ever idea about making account where people can send money to support cubieboard team? |
| 17:06.04 | SquirrelCZECH | not funding, but actually donating it |
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| 17:06.29 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: i suppose tom's paypal account would do |
| 17:06.49 | SquirrelCZECH | you know, when I see the work behind it (I can't see I know.. but...) |
| 17:06.53 | SquirrelCZECH | *when I imagine :D |
| 17:07.06 | SquirrelCZECH | I feel like sending them little more money could be ... nice |
| 17:07.12 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:07.17 | mnemoc | indeed |
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| 19:54.50 | morfoh | mtr: :) |
| 19:55.03 | morfoh | long time :) |
| 20:07.28 | johang | fedex tried to deliver my board today. wasn't home :| |
| 20:12.42 | mnemoc | johang: just for curiosity, did you receive a tracking number from tom? |
| 20:13.32 | johang | no, I got nothing. just a txt from fedex that they tried to deliver. |
| 20:14.04 | johang | the txt contained the tracking number the trace showed the package was sent from hong kong so I figured it has to be the board. |
| 21:01.34 | debianin | where can i find some embedded application for cb? some easy task, i.e. turn on/off a led on external bus or read digital input signal. |
| 21:20.07 | hno | debianin, you don't need an application for that. http://linux-sunxi.org/GPIO works the same for Cubieboard. |
| 21:20.44 | hno | http://olimex.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/a13-olinuxino-playing-with-gpios/ is a more detailed article. |
| 21:21.57 | debianin | hno, i was not clear, play with GPIO was exactly what i was loking for. thanks for links. |
| 21:23.34 | hno | johang, so now you just need to contact fedex and shedule a new delivery when you are home. |
| 21:26.48 | debianin | for the moment, CB can be seen as a proof of comcept: i wonder when massive production will be avaialbe (ie 50-100k pieces) to make CB able to "fight" against raspberry on world market and create a support community as rpi already has. |
| 21:28.03 | johang | hno: right. that's what I did. |
| 21:29.05 | mnemoc | debianin: that will most likely require an investor |
| 21:29.48 | debianin | mmm investor... how much money do you think it is necessart? 2/300K USD? |
| 21:30.32 | mnemoc | maybe |
| 21:30.52 | debianin | mmmm |
| 21:31.22 | debianin | pity i am too far fro china to have a step in the business. |
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| 21:37.21 | AndrevS | Anyhow, all this I am reading means the boards have been shipped. I suppose that means mine should arrive soon as well |
| 21:42.27 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 21:42.30 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: ehm |
| 21:43.07 | SquirrelCZECH | as I read it looks that somehow they didn't send the tracking number... |
| 21:43.09 | SquirrelCZECH | which is bad |
| 21:43.23 | mnemoc | nods |
| 21:43.24 | SquirrelCZECH | because I am really afraid about my ... cubies |
| 21:43.36 | SquirrelCZECH | johang: can I ask you a question? |
| 21:43.39 | SquirrelCZECH | where are you from? |
| 21:45.27 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: I don't want to blame you :D but now it looks like you are the only one which can help me |
| 21:45.32 | SquirrelCZECH | hipboy isn't here |
| 21:45.55 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: but I can't help you |
| 21:46.00 | SquirrelCZECH | :-/ |
| 21:47.02 | SquirrelCZECH | some received it on 9th Dec |
| 21:48.07 | SquirrelCZECH | next step: forum |
| 21:48.42 | johang | SquirrelCZECH: .se! |
| 21:48.58 | SquirrelCZECH | .se ? |
| 21:49.10 | johang | sweden |
| 21:49.21 | SquirrelCZECH | ok, thanks |
| 21:49.47 | SquirrelCZECH | it's like your country is 1600km from mine |
| 21:50.02 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 21:50.34 | SquirrelCZECH | if I use all my brain capacity... and think about how close you are to sea (I think that cubies were "shipped")... and that I am in the middle of Europe |
| 21:50.41 | johang | I don't think that matters in terms of delivery time |
| 21:50.52 | SquirrelCZECH | and fact that "fast" delivery companies are ... fast? |
| 21:51.19 | SquirrelCZECH | it can be on it's way from some harbour to my country? |
| 21:51.21 | mnemoc | you have to consider that the 1k pieces aren't all done the same day |
| 21:51.21 | SquirrelCZECH | hope so :D |
| 21:51.26 | SquirrelCZECH | I know |
| 21:51.49 | SquirrelCZECH | it's more like I am here for next 2 days |
| 21:52.19 | SquirrelCZECH | after that I am leaving... |
| 21:52.37 | johang | did you order standard or fast shipping? |
| 21:52.39 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: no one here can help you |
| 21:52.59 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: this is a community channel |
| 21:53.13 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: only support cubieboard org can help you |
| 21:53.50 | SquirrelCZECH | I know :-/ |
| 21:53.55 | SquirrelCZECH | johang: 2x rich package |
| 21:54.16 | SquirrelCZECH | anyway thanks a lot |
| 21:54.30 | SquirrelCZECH | I will just hope that delivery company can store the cubies for next weekend |
| 21:55.19 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: they'll probably call you if they can't deliver it |
| 21:55.38 | mnemoc | that's a critical diff between standard postage and fancy couriers |
| 21:56.38 | SquirrelCZECH | hope so |
| 21:58.22 | mnemoc | assuming you gave a good number when tom asked you :) |
| 21:58.29 | SquirrelCZECH | I hope so :D |
| 21:58.31 | mnemoc | (the google form thing) |
| 21:59.19 | SquirrelCZECH | it's more like I am thinkig that I would leave something on postbox: please leave the package in "...." family |
| 22:02.47 | morfoh | SquirrelCZECH: I haven't ordered a cubieboard but I bought a mele from tom and I bet he is doing the best to make everyone happy |
| 22:03.07 | morfoh | guess this guy has a a big todo list |
| 22:09.58 | SquirrelCZECH | I know |
| 22:10.06 | SquirrelCZECH | it's just :-/ |
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| 22:33.11 | hno | hej johang. |
| 22:35.27 | hno | nice to see more people from .se here. |
| 23:01.13 | johang | hno: hej :) |
| 23:06.54 | hno | johang, where in sweden are you? |
| 23:07.22 | hno | is in Tumba south of Stockholm. |
| 23:08.26 | morfoh | gammelsvensk |
| 23:11.37 | morfoh | I am not from sweden but now I remember that I wanted to call my uncle who is living there since more than 50 years |
| 23:14.31 | morfoh | we went there this summer and now my little daughter is telling me every day that she wants to go there "tomorrow" :) |
| 23:42.05 | thulle | hno: hässelby här:) |