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| 01:42.15 | ganbold | is interested in finding custom SBC design price in average |
| 02:40.19 | qermit | price falls and the number of SBC |
| 02:40.33 | qermit | price falls with the number of SBC |
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| 09:32.34 | haritot | hi hno, http://gamma.nic.fi/~donut2/cubieboard/cubieboard-output-sd-card.txt here is the correct ouput |
| 09:33.05 | hno | That's still a NAND boot. |
| 09:33.17 | haritot | refresh the page |
| 09:33.26 | haritot | browser cache prolly |
| 09:33.49 | hno | ÿHELLO! BOOT0 is starting! |
| 09:33.53 | hno | that's a NAND boot. |
| 09:40.19 | haritot | I will do these instructions once again.. https://github.com/hno/uboot-allwinner/wiki |
| 09:42.03 | haritot | just to verify is the make command, make CUBIEBOARD or make CUBIEBOARD_config ? |
| 09:48.11 | hno | make CROSS_COMPILE=.... cubieboard |
| 09:49.28 | hno | or grab a prebuild binary from http://www.hno.se/code/A10/u-boot/2012.10-00001-g0c38834/ |
| 09:54.40 | haritot | ok, thx i will test those. |
| 09:59.22 | haritot | Ok, I have nulled the SD card then I have writen the sunxi-spl.bin and the u-boot.bin to the card. Now for the partition table should the first partion be ext3/fat6 or fat 32 ? |
| 10:13.03 | haritot | ok now it is bootin from SD card, learned this the hard way :) http://gamma.nic.fi/~donut2/cubieboard/cubieboard-output-sd-card.txt |
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| 10:42.55 | haritot | OMG :) now the OS is loaded but no HMDI output yet |
| 10:43.11 | haritot | im able to ssh to the box |
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| 11:02.37 | haritot | How can I get the HDMI video output enable, what must I fix and where ? Here is the log from succesfull boot to the OS http://gamma.nic.fi/~donut2/cubieboard/cubieboard-output-sd-card-with-debian-os-HDMI-not-working.txt |
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| 11:33.56 | hno | haritot, is the hdmi module loaded? |
| 11:50.03 | haritot | I just followed these "http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps" instructions when compiling the kernel, so I do not think that the hmdi is enable, I am currently working on to recompile the linux kernel so it will have the hdmi support enabled. |
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| 12:10.20 | ganbold_ | when one can buy cubieboard? |
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| 12:11.48 | npze | hi |
| 12:11.57 | ganbold_ | hi |
| 12:12.49 | npze | well lots of people here :O |
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| 12:31.01 | Sv | haritot, what makes you think it,s not enabled? |
| 12:31.05 | Sv | did you try to modprobe it |
| 12:31.21 | Sv | it might not get loaded at boot, but should be present by default |
| 12:35.10 | haritot | I am a total noob when it comes to linux, just started a few days ago to play around with these :) So please instruct me and i will test it. |
| 12:35.31 | Sv | you have ssh access to it? |
| 12:35.35 | haritot | yes |
| 12:35.47 | Sv | if so just sudo modprobe hdmi |
| 12:35.56 | Sv | if it gives no error, then it means you already have the module |
| 12:36.02 | haritot | root@debian:/usr/src# modprobe hdmi |
| 12:36.02 | haritot | libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.0.42+/modules.dep.bin' |
| 12:36.13 | Sv | hmm |
| 12:36.15 | Sv | try sudo depmod -a |
| 12:36.29 | Sv | then modprobe command again |
| 12:36.42 | haritot | root@debian:/usr/src# depmod -a |
| 12:36.43 | haritot | ERROR: could not open directory /lib/modules/3.0.42+: No such file or directory |
| 12:36.43 | haritot | FATAL: could not search modules: No such file or directory |
| 12:37.01 | Sv | weird |
| 12:37.11 | Sv | seems the modules don't exist at all |
| 12:37.13 | Sv | i wonder how that's possible |
| 12:37.26 | Sv | if you want a pre-compiled 3.0.42 kernel (latest from github) i can link you in pm |
| 12:37.52 | haritot | please do so I can test it, atleast now I know little more what does the kernel do :) |
| 12:39.45 | Sv | ok |
| 12:40.24 | haritot | thx for the instructions i will try to run them in few min |
| 12:40.33 | Sv | np |
| 12:40.38 | Sv | if you need any more help i'll be around |
| 12:40.44 | haritot | thx mate! |
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| 13:18.53 | haritot | now the modprobe command works. |
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| 19:04.28 | hno | haritot, modprobe looks in /lib/modules/<kernelversion/... for the requested module and injects it into the running kernel. |
| 19:04.43 | hno | for it to work you need to have modules for your kernel build installed there. |
| 19:05.04 | hno | Did you build kernel yourself, or download a prebuilt one? |
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| 19:13.30 | tinti | Sv: please check if uname -a |
| 19:13.51 | tinti | Sv: do you have a folder /lib/modules/$(uname -r) ? |
| 19:26.02 | haritot | I have now been reading quite alot of info :) And as I suspected i am making noob mistakes, the modules were not present as the instructions as somewhat crappy when your a total newbie in the world of linux. |
| 19:27.35 | haritot | Instructions are written to somebody who has done these things quite a few times :( |
| 19:28.13 | RaYmAn | usually people start out with playing with kernel options on their desktop or laptop device - to learn the basics. It's a lot easier because of tools like the grub bootloader |
| 19:29.22 | haritot | I want to do it the hard way :) Always done them the hard way, I think that is the only way to truly learn them. |
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| 19:29.59 | haritot | But this should be so hard, this is quite simple when you first figure out how the pieces fit together. |
| 19:30.12 | haritot | shoudn't* |
| 19:36.12 | haritot | Now I atleast understand how the sd card, uboot,boot sectors and partitions work. Could somebody please tell me when cross compiling should I prefer to the HardFloat or not ? what is the real difference ? |
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| 19:38.31 | Turl | depends on what you're compiling and what's your base distribution |
| 19:39.33 | Turl | if you're building the kernel, hardfloat or softfloat doesn't matter, as the kernel doesn't do float ops |
| 19:41.08 | haritot | My goal is to run self compiled Debian and my Cubieboard, now for reference i have been using the instructions on http://linux-sunxi.org/ Debian + FirstSteps, but these instructions are missing alot of useful data for newbies :) |
| 19:42.21 | Turl | haritot: I'd use debootstrap on your PC to install an armhf debian on a sdcard |
| 19:42.32 | Turl | then add kernel and uboot and get it running :) |
| 19:43.05 | haritot | I have gotten everything up and running, but I have alot of questions :) |
| 19:44.10 | haritot | debootstrap --verbose --arch armhf --variant=minbase --foreign sid debfs-armhf http://ftp.debian.org/debian <-- This command contains the --foreign sid what does this do ? also --arch armhf <-- is this correct or should this be something else how can i check this ? |
| 19:45.01 | RaYmAn | --foreign is a seperate argument from sid |
| 19:45.28 | RaYmAn | foreign is for when you do it cross, e.g. from a x86 host or similar (because it tends to be a lot faster) |
| 19:45.29 | Turl | haritot: read "man debootstrap" :) |
| 19:45.37 | Turl | it explains foreign there |
| 19:45.46 | Turl | armhf means hard float userspace binaries |
| 19:45.51 | Turl | armel is soft float |
| 19:46.13 | Turl | you should use armhf unless you prefer stuff being slow :p |
| 19:46.41 | haritot | ok, this is excatly the info I need :) |
| 19:47.04 | haritot | Nobody really understand the "man manuals" hate them. |
| 19:47.21 | RaYmAn | they are quite useful. |
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| 19:47.48 | RaYmAn | if you don't at least read them before asking questions, eventually people will refrain from answering ;) |
| 19:48.47 | Turl | ^ what he said :) |
| 19:48.57 | haritot | Usually the manual rise 10more questions and 10 more manuals will answer those questions, so it's an never ending cycle. |
| 19:49.03 | Turl | :p |
| 19:49.59 | haritot | I am have been avoiding the use of linux since the year 1999, but now I have to cave in :) |
| 19:51.42 | haritot | Ok thanks for your inputs so far, i will continue the strugles on my own. |
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| 20:06.12 | Squirrel1ZECH | haritot: manuals aren't infinite... so it ends someday :D |
| 20:07.57 | simosx | I updated http://cubieboard.org/download/ Are there any comments or other material that are suitable for the download page? |
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| 22:04.42 | haritot | nice on Squirrel :) |
| 22:05.02 | haritot | one*, my keyboard is breaking up |
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