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| 09:32.19 | hipboi | good news |
| 09:32.33 | f1r3 | yess ! |
| 09:32.34 | hipboi | money from paypal has arrived |
| 09:32.43 | f1r3 | \o/ |
| 09:33.02 | hipboi | and indiegogo transfered the rest money today |
| 09:33.31 | hipboi | will be arrive at Nov.27 |
| 09:35.31 | pidpawel | yey! |
| 09:40.54 | hipboi | will post on the website and indiegogo update |
| 09:42.32 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 09:43.55 | pidpawel | more updates => less questions :) |
| 09:44.22 | mnemoc | hipboi: in the http://cubieboard.org/buy/ form you wrote "9.6k$" instead of 96 :) |
| 09:44.39 | hipboi | :o |
| 09:44.51 | hipboi | modify it right now |
| 09:45.19 | pidpawel | do anyone actually want 512MB RAM version? |
| 09:48.47 | hipboi | yes |
| 09:49.06 | hipboi | someone want 512MB and number > 1000 |
| 09:49.21 | hipboi | the mail address is windriver |
| 09:49.45 | hipboi | windriver.com |
| 09:50.10 | mnemoc | wind river is a huge company |
| 09:50.38 | pidpawel | wow. nice. |
| 09:50.49 | pidpawel | is 512MB version cheaper or sth? |
| 09:51.24 | mnemoc | hipboi: no nand vs. internal uSD variant? |
| 09:53.15 | mnemoc | 512MB was $4 cheaper in the first batch |
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| 11:02.58 | gzamboni | good news |
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| 14:55.45 | awaaas | hi there |
| 14:55.58 | awaaas | Is cubieboard from Indonesia? |
| 14:56.14 | awaaas | because I see some Indonesian language on the website |
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| 15:03.08 | xxiao | is it possible to add wifi to cubieboard? via usb-host? |
| 15:03.27 | xxiao | two usb hosts are kind of a bit limited |
| 15:03.38 | mnemoc | those are the native usb hosts ports |
| 15:03.45 | mnemoc | the board doesn't have hub |
| 15:03.45 | mnemoc | s |
| 15:03.51 | xxiao | so i will have to use usb-hub to get more |
| 15:03.57 | mnemoc | yes |
| 15:04.19 | xxiao | is this thing shipping, seems sexier than hackberry/olimex |
| 15:05.30 | mnemoc | the third batch will start production as soon as indiegogo money arrives to .cn, they sent the wire today |
| 15:05.54 | xxiao | that implies, if i order today i will get it around christmas? |
| 15:06.02 | mnemoc | you can't order today |
| 15:06.03 | xxiao | how long will be the manufacturing process |
| 15:06.24 | AndrevS | awesome. I ordered when it said 13 hours left. |
| 15:06.25 | mnemoc | i heard 3 weeks |
| 15:06.34 | mnemoc | AndrevS: lucky :) |
| 15:07.01 | xxiao | is this a open design just like olimex |
| 15:07.12 | xxiao | olimex has schematic/layout all available |
| 15:07.17 | xxiao | this has schematic thus far |
| 15:07.38 | AndrevS | Yeah, I just found out about it in a comment on osnews. So I was like I got to order one immediately. |
| 15:07.54 | xxiao | has not read osnews for long time |
| 15:08.07 | mnemoc | xxiao: doesn't qualify as open hardware yet, but schematics are available |
| 15:08.23 | mnemoc | http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/cubieboard_schematic_2012-08-08.pdf |
| 15:08.40 | AndrevS | There was an article "raspberry pi spawns competitors". The link to the cubieboard is now in the article as well. |
| 15:08.57 | xxiao | yeah found that schematic |
| 15:09.48 | mnemoc | also a dxf file to design shields, but doesn't have the "not relevant" components |
| 15:10.12 | AndrevS | Anyways, I got to go to university. ttyl. |
| 15:10.26 | mnemoc | because it's still considered a prototype |
| 15:11.08 | xxiao | looks like a beaglebone to me |
| 15:11.31 | mnemoc | yes, it's more of a beaglebone than a r-pi |
| 15:11.45 | mnemoc | without TI's budget |
| 15:12.32 | xxiao | am335x does have versatile IO pins for various caps |
| 15:12.46 | xxiao | here LCD pins are dorminant |
| 15:13.13 | xxiao | dominant |
| 15:13.56 | mnemoc | most pins in the A10 have several functions |
| 15:14.19 | mnemoc | the schematics only show the "suggested" function |
| 15:14.23 | tinti | xxiao: +SATA :) |
| 15:14.48 | xxiao | tinti: right |
| 15:15.35 | tinti | next todo => cubieboard + 1 TB hd + XBMC :) |
| 15:15.37 | mnemoc | xxiao: you are welcomed to take the A10 and cubieboard schematics and help completing http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard#Expansion_ports and http://linux-sunxi.org/A10/PIO so people can easily find what's behind each pin |
| 15:15.44 | xxiao | i got a project lined up for A10, would like to have 4 usbs on the board, no LCD, no ethernet, but CAN/serial/wifi |
| 15:16.25 | mnemoc | tinti: careful about the power, you can't take max around 1A from the board, anything larger needs it's own power source |
| 15:16.54 | mnemoc | xxiao: there are no public drivers or info about A10's CAN controller |
| 15:17.02 | xxiao | busy on omap stuff last few weeks, is the new allwinner chip out? |
| 15:17.11 | mnemoc | xxiao: nope |
| 15:17.40 | xxiao | maybe it's 后发制人 again |
| 15:17.43 | tinti | mnemoc: btw, good to remember. Is somewhere specified how much a GPIO pin can drive? I have a relay that drives up to 4 mA on each of its four ports |
| 15:18.06 | xxiao | means it always comes late, but will steal the thunder quickly once it arrives |
| 15:18.47 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:19.13 | mnemoc | tinti: no idea, but sounds risky to use the relay directly... those pins go unprotected directly to the SoC |
| 15:19.29 | tinti | the relay has protector transistors :) |
| 15:19.42 | xxiao | it appears there are quite some folks want to leverage the tablet chip for industrail usage |
| 15:20.07 | xxiao | check coldfire :) |
| 15:20.08 | mnemoc | the A10 is old for tablets, but awesome for industrial |
| 15:20.33 | tinti | mnemoc: These ones http://dx.com/p/4-channel-relay-module-extension-board-for-arduino-avr-arm-51-141651 |
| 15:20.45 | xxiao | frankly i'm a little concerned about A10's stability in a harsh env |
| 15:21.16 | mnemoc | tinti: try it ;-) |
| 15:21.21 | mnemoc | xxiao: protect it ;-) |
| 15:22.05 | mnemoc | xxiao: there is no reason to expose the board to the harsh env |
| 15:22.58 | xxiao | no it's more than just a sheild box |
| 15:23.45 | xxiao | i was told the 100Mbps interface is very slow in practice, have you ever tested it? |
| 15:24.17 | xxiao | also unsure about SATA performance, in general the best media CPU has the worst IO performance |
| 15:24.24 | xxiao | vice versa |
| 15:24.48 | mnemoc | currently it starts at 10Mbps/HD, but mii-tools/ethtool solves the problem easily |
| 15:25.00 | mnemoc | and sooner than later the driver will get fixed |
| 15:25.30 | xxiao | i recall a few days ago i looked at that driver, it's not doing dma for packets |
| 15:25.48 | xxiao | dragging down the cpu at 100mbps i assume, which is why it defaults to 10mpbs i guess |
| 15:26.42 | mnemoc | hdparm -t gives me 120MB/s on an externally powered RAID1 device, on a 2.5" hdd powered by the board I get ~60 |
| 15:26.45 | xxiao | SATA got people excited including me, but i wonder what the performace would be if i ran it as a NAS box |
| 15:27.07 | mnemoc | it's limited to one drive |
| 15:27.14 | mnemoc | so forget about a NAS |
| 15:28.13 | mnemoc | what does work is a cluster of A10 boards each with one SSD |
| 15:28.27 | mnemoc | much more cost effective than a multiplier |
| 15:29.00 | xxiao | with multiplier i don't think A10 can handle the work load |
| 15:29.03 | xxiao | esp with raid |
| 15:30.08 | xxiao | not sure how about SATA+USB as a simple RAID1 |
| 15:30.26 | xxiao | must be very sluggish |
| 15:31.11 | mnemoc | get a raid1 device with esata output |
| 15:32.11 | xxiao | it's also possible to let cubie hook two cameras |
| 15:32.25 | xxiao | i noticed CSI0 and CSI1 are both at the pinout |
| 15:32.55 | xxiao | maybe a cheap IPCAM |
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| 15:48.25 | qermit | xxiao: kvmIP :) |
| 15:48.28 | qermit | dual |
| 15:49.10 | xxiao | qermit: link? |
| 15:49.57 | qermit | what link? |
| 15:50.48 | xxiao | i |
| 15:51.01 | xxiao | 'm confused by you mentioning kvmIP |
| 15:52.08 | qermit | oh, instead camera sensor chip i want to connect HDMI Recievers |
| 15:54.27 | Guest57662 | hmm |
| 15:54.40 | Guest57662 | is it possible to connect usb-webcame to these pins? :-) |
| 15:54.49 | qermit | no |
| 15:54.59 | xxiao | usb-camera...connect it to usb |
| 15:55.14 | Guest57662 | hmm, ok :-/ |
| 15:55.32 | Guest57662 | have three usb-need devices and cubie only 2 ports O:-) |
| 15:55.33 | xxiao | usb-camera is a little demanding for cpu |
| 15:55.41 | Guest57662 | arduino,webcame,wifi adapter |
| 15:55.48 | Guest57662 | I know ;-) |
| 15:56.03 | xxiao | Guest57662: that's what i'm saying, wish it put a usb-hub |
| 15:56.19 | Guest57662 | ok |
| 15:56.20 | xxiao | however it may not be able to source all the current |
| 15:56.41 | Guest57662 | hmm |
| 15:56.50 | Guest57662 | arduino powers only itself... |
| 15:57.14 | Guest57662 | but Maybe I could hack the usb-hub and connect it to 5v power source |
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| 15:58.34 | Guest57662 | WOW, found perfect candidate for this |
| 15:59.12 | Guest57662 | AXAGO - HUE-C1 ... allready got special USB connectior for additional power source :-) |
| 15:59.25 | xxiao | usb hub? there are many |
| 15:59.38 | xxiao | most with its own power |
| 16:00.03 | mnemoc | make a powered usb-hub shield to mount on the cb :p |
| 16:00.20 | Guest57662 | give me designes and I am OK with that :D |
| 16:00.53 | Guest57662 | was always that one that buyed pcbs, connects them together, programms them and that's ok |
| 16:00.59 | Guest57662 | not like I enjoy doing my own pcb :-/ |
| 16:01.43 | Guest57662 | mnemoc: anyway... are there any designs of shields? |
| 16:03.51 | mnemoc | there is a cad file with the standoffs and the expansion headers only |
| 16:04.04 | Guest57662 | hmm :-/ |
| 16:04.58 | grimes99 | what is pitch for headers? |
| 16:05.05 | mnemoc | 2mm |
| 16:06.08 | Guest57662 | wow, redesign for forum, nice one |
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| 16:29.36 | xxiao | nexus7 is neat indeed, better than ipad |
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| 18:06.33 | tinti | shield documentation example: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/BYOB |
| 18:39.55 | mnemoc | tinti: http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Shields is waiting for you :) |
| 18:40.26 | tinti | mnemoc: lets do it? |
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| 18:41.37 | tinti | mnemoc: no permission to edit :( |
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| 18:41.59 | mnemoc | tinti: a good start is finishing the cross references between http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard#Expansion_ports and http://linux-sunxi.org/A10/PIO |
| 18:42.10 | mnemoc | tinti: tried... signing in? |
| 18:42.23 | tinti | mail confirmation |
| 18:45.32 | tinti | mnemoc: http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Shields |
| 18:46.05 | mnemoc | tinti: for internal links use [[...]] |
| 18:46.13 | tinti | oops |
| 18:46.29 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 19:27.02 | tinti | hi, can someone pass me a link for that yellow pages about A10? Or do someone knows a link where I can buy A10 processor (I am quite sure that I have found one few days ago). Thanks :) |
| 19:28.17 | xxiao | for small quantity why just not buy from olimex |
| 19:28.34 | xxiao | or try alipexress/taobao? |
| 19:28.57 | xxiao | s/why just not/why not just/ |
| 19:29.25 | tinti | xxiao: mass production :) I am quite sure that I found one site saying that over 10000 it coats 8 dollar + pmic |
| 19:29.38 | mnemoc | tinti: then contact wits |
| 19:29.52 | xxiao | ok...for that volume talking to wits, or maybe allwinner |
| 19:30.00 | mnemoc | tinti: if you can, please try to get us info about the CEC and CAN controllers |
| 19:30.21 | xxiao | tinti: volume speaks, you can get more info certainly |
| 19:30.27 | tinti | tinti: about CAN controllers I think I can |
| 19:30.45 | tinti | mnemoc: about CAN controllers I will try to manage |
| 19:33.39 | mnemoc | tinti: awesome |
| 19:34.00 | mnemoc | tinti: afaik they don't have linux drivers, but having the registers we can try to get something working |
| 19:36.22 | tinti | mnemoc: but do you want to know about prices right? |
| 19:38.12 | mnemoc | no... I'm just a software ape |
| 19:38.26 | mnemoc | I want to know how to use the CAN controller within the A0 |
| 19:38.29 | mnemoc | A10 |
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| 19:39.12 | tinti | mnemoc: ok I will check |
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