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| 02:27.49 | Gumboot | What is the minimum order quantity on A10, anyway? |
| 02:28.49 | Gumboot | I'm used to figures in the tens of thousands, but in China it seems like there are always ways of getting things in modest quantities. |
| 02:29.55 | hno | Gumboot, from Allwinner thens of thousands usually. But there is always the option of buing part of some one elses batch with a little markup on what they paid. |
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| 02:30.16 | Gumboot | Is that a common business practice, or a China special? |
| 02:30.27 | hno | everywhere I would think. |
| 02:30.49 | Gumboot | I guess if it wasn't everywhere then people would simply do it through China until it was practically everywhere anyway. |
| 02:31.29 | hno | but you don't get the same support level dealing this way. |
| 02:31.44 | Gumboot | Indeed. |
| 02:32.02 | Gumboot | Where does one go to make these deals, anyway? |
| 02:32.44 | hno | Your existing contacts primarily, if you want a acceptable deal. |
| 02:34.00 | Gumboot | I guess this is what fills up the likes of taobao with small runs of unusual things. |
| 02:34.55 | Gumboot | I'd never survive in a country like that. Networking is completely not my thing. |
| 02:56.29 | avernos | is there any built android image for cubieboard? |
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| 04:47.09 | avernos | how can i build android img for the cubie? |
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| 17:12.27 | uNMd | anyone alrdy looked for a suitable lcd module ? |
| 17:14.47 | user__ | hi mnemoc |
| 17:15.23 | debianin | finally i got serial/usb converter |
| 17:16.28 | debianin | how to set ul my linuxbox to read the seial from cubieboard? |
| 17:16.51 | debianin | how to set up my linuxbox to read the serial from cubieboard? |
| 17:18.00 | mnemoc | 115200 8N1 |
| 17:18.22 | mnemoc | don't connect vcc, only gnd,rx,tx |
| 17:19.12 | debianin | ok, but how to do exactly? shall i to modifi /etc/inittab or somethin else? |
| 17:20.10 | mnemoc | no... just open a serial terminal to the right /dev/ttyUSBn |
| 17:20.37 | mnemoc | some use gtkterm, others screen, other minicom, .... |
| 17:20.48 | debianin | ahhhh.... ok let me try |
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| 17:21.38 | debianin | ok dmesg say it is ttyUSB0 |
| 17:22.30 | debianin | installing gtkterm... |
| 17:23.04 | Workboot | socat. People should talk more about socat. |
| 17:23.26 | Workboot | Oh, and also PuTTY. |
| 17:23.50 | mnemoc | people mostly only talk about socat and serial when they want to export one over tcp/ip.... |
| 17:23.57 | debianin | putty is for windows. pure linix ppl here :) |
| 17:24.07 | Workboot | There's a Linux port. |
| 17:24.15 | mnemoc | o.o |
| 17:24.19 | Workboot | Yep. |
| 17:24.32 | Workboot | Now it's keeping _Linux_ in its place. |
| 17:25.16 | debianin | my god! it works! my cubieboard workssssss!!!! :D :D :D |
| 17:25.57 | Workboot | I use socat just because it seems redundant running a terminal emulator within a terminal emulator, and it also seems redundant using two different terminal emulators depending on whether or not it's connected to a shell or a serial link. |
| 17:26.33 | debianin | ok ok cam down myself.... |
| 17:26.34 | Workboot | So to be _really_ uptight, one has to prefix it with exec so as to avoid the redundant instance of the shell. |
| 17:26.45 | mnemoc | i tend to use microcom for the same reason.... but less typing than socar :p |
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| 17:27.04 | Workboot | Yeah, with socar you have to type backspace and t, so it's longer. |
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| 17:27.24 | Workboot | (and yes, a bunch of painful link configuration) |
| 17:28.23 | mnemoc | add a socat page in the wiki ;-) |
| 17:28.31 | mnemoc | people loves copy&paste |
| 17:28.48 | mnemoc | well.. better a page on the different options to get a serial console |
| 17:29.12 | mnemoc | just remember the wiki is not cubieboard-specific |
| 17:29.55 | debianin | mnemoc, it woks. what is next step to create my own istallation with monitor output? |
| 17:30.26 | mnemoc | interrupt u-boot and append console=tty0 |
| 17:31.03 | debianin | how to interrupt? calssic ctrl-c? |
| 17:36.36 | Workboot | mnemoc: Will that page also indicate where to find _real_ serial terminals? I think it should. |
| 17:38.31 | debianin | i cant find /dev/shm.... is not in ARM? |
| 17:40.39 | mnemoc | Workboot: up to you :) |
| 17:49.12 | Workboot | There might be some on ebay. |
| 17:49.20 | Workboot | It's impartant to consider all your options. |
| 17:50.15 | Workboot | s/impartant/important/ |
| 17:50.45 | mnemoc | try to not promote sellers |
| 17:54.32 | Workboot | It looks like I ended up with 'socat -,raw,icrnl,echo=0,escape=0x0f /dev/ttyUSB2,b115200,raw,echo=0' as my command line for socat... does that seem sane? |
| 17:55.20 | mnemoc | as wikipedia says, "be bold" |
| 17:57.35 | grimes99 | are there any examples of how to read from the IO pins for cubie? |
| 17:58.55 | debianin | i di a little test on cb, here the result |
| 17:58.57 | debianin | time dd if=/dev/zero of=test.test bs=1M count=8192 |
| 17:58.57 | debianin | 8192+0 records in |
| 17:58.58 | debianin | 8192+0 records out |
| 17:58.58 | debianin | real3m 35.45s |
| 17:58.58 | debianin | user0m 0.04s |
| 17:58.58 | debianin | sys2m 25.88s |
| 17:59.26 | debianin | 38MB/s not bad :) |
| 18:00.07 | mnemoc | check the cpu frequency |
| 18:00.22 | debianin | wait amoment, im doing anoter dd :) |
| 18:00.24 | mnemoc | also, where are you storing that test.test? |
| 18:00.51 | debianin | on /dev/sda2, a 2.5'' connected via SATA |
| 18:01.36 | tinti | Hi, does cubieboard's gpio work on 5v or 3v3? |
| 18:01.52 | debianin | 3v3 afaik |
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| 18:02.50 | debianin | the same 8G file do this: |
| 18:02.52 | debianin | # time cat test.test > /dev/null |
| 18:02.53 | debianin | real2m 5.47s |
| 18:02.53 | debianin | user0m 1.47s |
| 18:02.53 | debianin | sys1m 25.52s |
| 18:03.28 | debianin | mnemoc, how to test fequency? |
| 18:03.56 | mnemoc | look at the bogomips in /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:04.05 | mnemoc | but PLEASE, don't paste the whole thing |
| 18:04.11 | debianin | ok |
| 18:04.31 | tinti | debianin: thanks :). So does UART? |
| 18:04.39 | debianin | 59.63 bogomops |
| 18:04.54 | debianin | tinti, i dont undestand the qeustion |
| 18:04.54 | mnemoc | as expected, running at 60MHz :) |
| 18:05.01 | debianin | !!!! |
| 18:05.11 | debianin | how to mape it 1Ghz then? |
| 18:05.17 | pidpawel | cb can run that low? :) |
| 18:05.19 | debianin | s/mape/make/ |
| 18:05.29 | mnemoc | stress it a bit ;-) |
| 18:05.47 | tinti | debianin: Is UART a standard one (uses 5v logic) or 3v3 logic |
| 18:05.48 | tinti | ? |
| 18:06.07 | mnemoc | also, look at the cpufreq page in the wiki for details about configuring cpufreq/ondemand better |
| 18:06.14 | debianin | mnemoc, do you mean cb modify the frequency dinamically in function of the load? |
| 18:06.24 | debianin | ah ok o go to wiki than tnx |
| 18:06.42 | debianin | tinti, i use a usb/serial converte, it should be 3v3 but im not sure. |
| 18:07.14 | mnemoc | debianin: yes, linux does that to save power when the load is low |
| 18:07.31 | debianin | yes it is 3v3v, i just read it vrom the converter :) |
| 18:07.40 | debianin | mnemoc, linux rocks once more :D |
| 18:08.11 | debianin | i look around inside filesystem, it does not seems to be debian-based. |
| 18:08.34 | mnemoc | but at 60MHz it takes a while to realize it's under stress, so you might want to configure ondemand to not go under 300MHz |
| 18:08.37 | debianin | busyboc on cb... mmm ... i dislike. bash should be better a lot. |
| 18:08.39 | mnemoc | as explained on the wiki |
| 18:08.55 | debianin | mnemoc, i will look the wiki. |
| 18:09.20 | debianin | anyway im still excited by to see it works, ehehehe let me ejoy these moments :D |
| 18:09.21 | tinti | debianin: nice. For those who had a MSP430 it is possible to use its UART to connect to Cubieboard/Raspberry. |
| 18:10.22 | debianin | i rea PL2303MDL on the circuit od converter... hope it can help. |
| 18:11.48 | debianin | the cat command sent in bakground consume 70-74% of cpu |
| 18:12.29 | debianin | now bogomoips are 524 :) |
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| 19:04.59 | debianin | little stange: il i stom the u-boot i can read this: BOARD: A10-EVB Dram: 512. so it seemst there are only 512Mram. but i o boot nd go into top command, i see used mem: 10180K, free: 823252K |
| 19:05.07 | debianin | if i stop* |
| 19:07.28 | mnemoc | the gpl-violating u-boot in nand doesn't know how much memory you have. then linux from nand uses a hack to read the size from an address were allwinner decided to inject that info |
| 19:07.49 | mnemoc | when booting from uSD the world is more civilized |
| 19:07.51 | debianin | good. |
| 19:08.26 | debianin | u-boot is not gpl complain? |
| 19:09.12 | rm | is there a microphone input on the cubieboard? |
| 19:09.21 | rm | or line-in? |
| 19:09.51 | mnemoc | yes |
| 19:10.02 | mnemoc | but you need very very slim plugs |
| 19:11.06 | pidpawel | btw jacks in cb are 3.5mm? |
| 19:11.08 | mnemoc | debianin: we have working gpl complaint u-boot. but the one coming in the nand of A10 devices is built from closed souces |
| 19:11.15 | mnemoc | pidpawel: yes |
| 19:11.26 | mnemoc | but hp and linein are way too close |
| 19:11.36 | pidpawel | oh. ok:) |
| 19:11.38 | mnemoc | so only slim connectors fit |
| 19:12.37 | debianin | mnemoc, ok. btw there is a file on flash named test1.mp4... it is a audiofile? can i play it to test audio output? |
| 19:12.58 | debianin | how to play it? |
| 19:13.12 | pidpawel | mplayer test1.mp4 ? |
| 19:13.32 | pidpawel | i dont have cb yet so im just guessing |
| 19:13.38 | debianin | is not mplayero on cb, pidpawel |
| 19:18.13 | debianin | mnemoc, you say u play xubutu on CB... what program you run? firefox? cromium? |
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| 19:19.27 | mnemoc | i rarely do anything beside testing new kernels |
| 19:20.54 | debianin | ok. im curious to know prestations, respondeness if A10 when sollecitated by desktop applications |
| 19:21.57 | debianin | btw, i dont see eth in dmesg.... |
| 19:23.46 | mnemoc | wemac |
| 19:26.16 | debianin | wemac? |
| 19:26.29 | mnemoc | the name of the ethernet driver |
| 19:26.43 | mnemoc | dmesg prefix I mean |
| 19:26.49 | debianin | ok |
| 19:26.50 | debianin | mmm |
| 19:27.09 | debianin | i see message: emac MAC isn't valid! |
| 19:27.49 | debianin | can't get information emac_power gpio |
| 19:28.11 | debianin | tht is the dmesg report |
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| 19:42.24 | Nicky13 | hello |
| 19:45.38 | debianin | hoi |
| 19:48.57 | Nicky13 | can i ask aboput this device |
| 19:49.08 | Nicky13 | about |
| 19:54.36 | debianin | go |
| 19:54.40 | debianin | with question |
| 19:57.40 | mnemoc | he left |
| 20:00.08 | debianin | ??? |
| 20:00.16 | debianin | ah yes |
| 20:00.19 | debianin | :) |
| 20:16.29 | debianin | mnemoc, seems my eth0 is not recognized. |
| 20:16.34 | debianin | any suggeston? |
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| 21:25.45 | debianin | mnemoc, ok, i stopped u-boot and i am inside a kind of "menu". the problem is that i can indestand how and how set console=tty0 |
| 21:27.32 | mnemoc | printenv |
| 21:27.55 | debianin | console=ttyS0,115200 |
| 21:27.56 | mnemoc | but it's a command prompt, not a menu |
| 21:28.13 | debianin | ok, ok command prompt. i was raw... |
| 21:28.51 | mnemoc | try: setenv console "ttyS0,115200 console=tty0" |
| 21:29.00 | mnemoc | and then: boot |
| 21:29.07 | debianin | ok, wait... |
| 21:29.54 | debianin | booting |
| 21:30.18 | debianin | serial console works, hdmi monitor still blind. |
| 21:31.07 | debianin | maybe should be: setenv "console ttyS0,115200 console=tty0" ? |
| 21:32.09 | mnemoc | no |
| 21:32.21 | debianin | restart, and printend same like before, seems not get change |
| 21:32.55 | mnemoc | got a prompt? check what /proc/cmdline said |
| 21:33.08 | mnemoc | over the serial |
| 21:33.13 | debianin | wait |
| 21:33.45 | debianin | console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/nandd init=/init loglevel=8 |
| 21:34.16 | debianin | the is a file to edit? simolato tu grub.conf? |
| 21:34.21 | debianin | similar |
| 21:35.18 | mnemoc | it's possible your kernel image has arguments hardcoded |
| 21:35.36 | debianin | mmmm |
| 21:35.37 | mnemoc | it should have shown the extra console=tty0 you passed |
| 21:35.45 | mnemoc | go back to u-boot |
| 21:35.56 | debianin | so it means my "image" is old and i have to update? |
| 21:36.02 | mnemoc | and paste the whole output of printenv to dpaste.com |
| 21:36.17 | debianin | ok |
| 21:36.18 | debianin | wait |
| 21:37.58 | debianin | http://dpaste.com/820308/ |
| 21:39.44 | debianin | mnemoc, here http://dpaste.com/820308/ |
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| 21:46.00 | mnemoc | debianin: and you are sure you did: setenv console "ttyS0,115200 console=tty0" last time, right? |
| 21:46.25 | debianin | mnemoc, yes, i can repeat, if necessary. |
| 21:46.37 | mnemoc | then your kernel has hardcoded command line, and needs to be rebuilt |
| 21:47.05 | mnemoc | can you boot and check what linux version you have there? |
| 21:47.12 | mnemoc | I would bet for 3.0.8+ |
| 21:47.31 | mnemoc | in which case you should reflash it |
| 21:47.41 | debianin | the unluky bastard i am :( |
| 21:47.50 | debianin | 3.4.5+ |
| 21:48.20 | debianin | #9 PREEMPT Sun Sep 23 03:39:52 EDT 2012 armv71 |
| 21:48.59 | mnemoc | very weird |
| 21:49.36 | mnemoc | it's a good version. built from open sources |
| 21:49.37 | debianin | uname -a told me that |
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| 21:50.05 | mnemoc | unfortunatelly it seems who made the .config wasn't in a good day |
| 21:50.36 | debianin | ok, we see the problem. now the solution is.... ? |
| 21:50.51 | mnemoc | rebuild your kernel |
| 21:51.16 | mnemoc | get github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp |
| 21:51.19 | debianin | ok, i know. im skilled in kernel rebuild for x86, how to proceed dor ARM? |
| 21:51.44 | debianin | shal i prepare it on a x86 PC, i suppose. |
| 21:51.50 | mnemoc | yes |
| 21:51.56 | debianin | wait. |
| 21:52.40 | debianin | hipboi gave me a 75M image to flash on cb... maybe it is the one i need to solve the situation withoud to "redo the wheel". |
| 21:53.07 | debianin | what do you thinnk? |
| 21:53.35 | mnemoc | that who made the .config isn't used to hackable devices |
| 21:54.01 | debianin | no, i mean of you think a good idea to use a image from hipboi |
| 21:54.11 | mnemoc | you haven't already? |
| 21:54.37 | debianin | let me clarify the situation. |
| 21:55.21 | debianin | im working with cb out-of-the-box as i got it from post office, the cb is untouched, it is "original". |
| 21:55.39 | debianin | i only plug in ttl/usb converter for serial console and no more. |
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| 21:55.45 | mnemoc | ok. |
| 21:56.08 | debianin | 2 days ago hipboi link me to donwload a 75mb if image to flash on cb |
| 21:56.11 | mnemoc | you have two paths. reflash it with what tom sent you |
| 21:56.18 | mnemoc | or build your own stuff |
| 21:56.25 | debianin | i prefere to flash. |
| 21:56.29 | mnemoc | go ahead |
| 21:56.54 | debianin | because i suppose image came perfect form hipboi, to rebuild by myself can drive me into errors. |
| 21:57.13 | mnemoc | fair enough |
| 21:57.17 | debianin | but now here is time to sleep. |
| 21:57.25 | mnemoc | you can later play making your own on uSD |
| 21:57.30 | mnemoc | good night |
| 21:58.05 | debianin | plan is: 1. flash image, 2. create my own uSD. 3. ENJOY DESKTOP APPLICATIONS!!! :D :D :D |
| 21:58.27 | debianin | but tomorrow. now i mus sleep, i am over the power. |
| 21:59.44 | mnemoc | :) |
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