| 00:00.32 | f1r3 | still not working ? |
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| 00:12.07 | des2 | I haven't tried it since it blocked my $30 cubieboard order. |
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| 06:44.29 | gzamboni | 17 thousends dollars, :) and it keeps raising. |
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| 06:44.58 | gzamboni | it will raise fast when hipboi will notifty the maillist |
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| 06:45.39 | thofle | will they start the production run before the deadline if they meet their goal? |
| 06:45.47 | hipboi | yes |
| 06:45.52 | thofle | nice |
| 06:45.59 | thofle | I want mine tomorrow :P |
| 06:46.11 | hipboi | today indiegogo risk team mailed me |
| 06:46.22 | hipboi | ask me to upload photo id |
| 06:46.28 | hipboi | legal address |
| 06:46.33 | hipboi | etc.. |
| 06:49.22 | f1r3 | tey want to order themselves |
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| 07:58.52 | mnemoc | hipboi: making indiegogo's risk team should be easy.... if they are capable of reading chinese documents :p |
| 07:59.03 | mnemoc | s/team/team happy/ |
| 07:59.09 | mnemoc | hipboi: what about paypal? any feedback on that? |
| 07:59.16 | hipboi | no... |
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| 08:01.59 | mnemoc | :< |
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| 08:36.08 | stefanro1 | hno: do you know why ZFS support is included in the sunxi u-boot images? |
| 08:36.31 | mnemoc | stefanro1: because of crowd request |
| 08:37.17 | stefanro1 | mnemoc: really? i've never used it - but okay, we can keep it, just increases the image size a bit |
| 08:37.18 | mnemoc | but iirc it's not used by the default env |
| 08:37.30 | stefanro1 | has never used ZFS so far |
| 08:37.45 | mnemoc | stefanro1: should be trivial to disable.. |
| 08:38.09 | stefanro1 | mnemoc: yes it is - thats why i ask |
| 08:38.24 | stefanro1 | is cleaning up patches for upstreaming... |
| 08:38.40 | mnemoc | stefanro1: btw, dev talk happens more often at #arm-netbook |
| 08:38.47 | mnemoc | stefanro1: this is more of a support channel |
| 08:38.52 | stefanro1 | yep, sorry wrong channel |
| 08:39.11 | mnemoc | welcome btw :) nice to see more denx people interested |
| 08:42.28 | stefanro1 | thanks |
| 08:42.53 | gzamboni | is it possible to boot from the usart port on the a1x ? in the datasheet i cant see the boot mode possibilities |
| 08:44.07 | hipboi | <gzamboni>: no |
| 08:44.38 | mnemoc | usd -> nand -> fel are the normal options |
| 08:45.10 | mnemoc | s/usd/mmc/ |
| 08:46.46 | gzamboni | i mean, if for some reason we get uboot misconfigured, or for flashing the uboot for the first time. |
| 08:47.13 | gzamboni | how do you flash the uboot into the nand for the first time ? |
| 08:47.21 | mnemoc | fel |
| 08:48.09 | gzamboni | lol, what does fel means, im a noobie |
| 08:49.02 | mnemoc | fel is a low level recovery mode that uses the usb slave and lives on the brom |
| 08:49.27 | mnemoc | you upload a baremetal "installer" and then call it |
| 08:49.56 | mnemoc | gzamboni: there is a fel.c in sunxi-tools to play with it |
| 08:50.23 | mnemoc | to enter fel mode in the cubie you need to keep the button under the mini usb pressed during power up |
| 08:51.10 | gzamboni | humm, ok |
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| 08:52.08 | gzamboni | another dumb question, ttl is the usart without the max232 amplification to 5V, so it keeps the arm voltage 3.3 , right ? |
| 08:52.28 | mnemoc | you can also boot linux from mmc (uSD), and /dev/nand will expose the whole logical nand, so you can repartition it and install whatever you want |
| 08:52.41 | mnemoc | gzamboni: yes, 3.3V |
| 08:52.41 | gzamboni | and the usb ttl is a usb to serial conversor that keeps 3.3V at the output |
| 08:53.16 | mnemoc | yes |
| 08:53.41 | mnemoc | but as long as you don't plug the vcc you may be lucky using a 5V ttl/usb adapter too |
| 08:54.25 | gzamboni | humm, i just found some info here http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_boot_process/ |
| 08:55.12 | mnemoc | gzamboni: you are welcomed to migrate that knowledge to http://linux-sunxi.org/A10 :) |
| 08:55.18 | gzamboni | i bought the ttl/usb adapter from olimex |
| 08:55.31 | mnemoc | that will do, yes |
| 08:55.41 | gzamboni | but i have a usb/serial adapter here, before buying that one from olimex i was thinking in using it |
| 08:56.06 | mnemoc | you mean usb/db9 rs232? no, that won't work |
| 08:56.16 | gzamboni | yes |
| 08:56.50 | mnemoc | you would need to turn the uart of the cubie into rs232 first |
| 08:57.34 | gzamboni | i thought the converstion from uart to rs232 was only the voltage. from 3V to 5V |
| 08:58.46 | mnemoc | people uses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAX232 normally |
| 09:00.13 | gzamboni | but when you plug the usb/ttl conversor in the computer it detects a serial comunication port, right ? |
| 09:00.23 | gzamboni | ttyUSB0 for instance |
| 09:00.36 | mnemoc | yes |
| 09:00.39 | gzamboni | i havent plugged yet my cable. |
| 09:01.04 | mnemoc | and then open using 115200 8N1 |
| 09:01.19 | gzamboni | :P i am installing a new table with a soldering station and everything i will need to my project |
| 09:01.30 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:01.31 | gzamboni | k |
| 09:02.09 | gzamboni | thanks for beeing patient mnemoc |
| 09:02.12 | gzamboni | youre the man! |
| 09:02.24 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:03.14 | mnemoc | gzamboni: http://www.ebay.com/itm/220964816040 might be interesting |
| 09:04.22 | mnemoc | exposes quite a lot of the FT2232H functionality in a friednly way |
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| 09:09.50 | mysteryname | Would the Cubie board mailinglist/IRC? be a place to ask about the mele Axxx questions too? |
| 09:10.11 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: wow, if only i had a use for that :D |
| 09:10.34 | hno | stefanro1, don't see much reason to keep u-boot minimal in size. Boot time is not noticeably impacted by some KB. |
| 09:10.50 | hno | stefanro1, if you want a minimal u-boot then ony use SPL. |
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| 09:11.13 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: I bought it as replacement for my dead flyswatter.... and will eventually be able to test spl and i2c with it too... |
| 09:11.20 | gzamboni | apperently this FT2232H can makes jtag also, i saw in another board |
| 09:11.44 | hno | gzamboni, yes, FT2232H is a very common JTAG interface. |
| 09:11.45 | stefanro1 | hno: yes, i was just wondering since ZFS support is quite new and currently generates some compile time warnings |
| 09:12.08 | mnemoc | mysteryname: not really... people normally uses arm-netbook's list for that |
| 09:12.23 | mnemoc | mysteryname: it would be nice to keep the cubieboard list/channel cubieboard centric |
| 09:12.47 | mysteryname | mnemoc: No problem |
| 09:12.53 | mnemoc | mysteryname: the arm-netbook list is already taken over by random A10-related questions :) |
| 09:13.11 | mysteryname | mnomoc: I'll see if I can find a answer there :D |
| 09:23.53 | gzamboni | didnt know FT2232H could make also i2c and spi, interesting |
| 09:27.09 | mnemoc | gzamboni: that's exactly why I suggested you that board |
| 09:31.32 | gzamboni | nice, i will buy one |
| 09:36.07 | gzamboni | maybe i will get this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-to-Serial-UART-I2C-SPI-JTAG-Adapter-FT232H-12-000-000-baud-buffer-RS232-/320963598729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abaebd989 |
| 09:36.43 | gzamboni | just have to sold the pins to make it practical to work |
| 09:38.57 | gzamboni | to solder |
| 09:42.14 | mnemoc | gzamboni: i'm a software guy, i prefer headers :) .... but yes, for you looks great :) |
| 09:43.28 | gzamboni | done :) just gotta wait as i think it comes from US |
| 09:51.48 | mnemoc | gzamboni: it's home: http://www.diygadget.com |
| 09:56.11 | gzamboni | thanks |
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| 10:48.07 | debianin | mnemoc, what ttl/usb converter can you suggest me? |
| 10:48.35 | mnemoc | depends on the budget. you can find on ebay for $2 |
| 10:48.51 | mnemoc | crappy ones that do the job |
| 10:51.17 | debianin | better no low quality hardware, if im not sure it works, i can user it with "light heart". some good quality stuff, do you know? |
| 10:52.11 | RaYmAn | If you want better quality go for ftdi based |
| 10:52.44 | debianin | sole ebay vendor? for affordable quality? |
| 10:52.48 | debianin | some* |
| 10:52.53 | RaYmAn | the 2$ ebay ones work just fine, as long as you stay at 115k speed :) (which is really all you need for debugging). |
| 10:53.17 | debianin | RaYmAn, do you know a ebay vendor of that? |
| 10:53.26 | RaYmAn | I haven't really seen anything - it's either 2$ cheap or considerably more expensive ftdi based ones |
| 10:53.33 | RaYmAn | sorry, no - I just buy cheapest=P |
| 10:53.34 | f1r3 | are the jtag pins accessible ? |
| 10:53.36 | mnemoc | search for ft232rl |
| 10:53.40 | f1r3 | morning btw |
| 10:53.49 | debianin | mnemoc, ok |
| 10:53.53 | mnemoc | f1r3: no :( only on the uSD slot |
| 10:54.22 | RaYmAn | cubie is selling a 5$ uSD port converter, so you can get jtag |
| 10:54.25 | mnemoc | f1r3: will need a break out board like: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/TTF-to-USB-Serial-line/511685_665833183.html |
| 10:54.47 | RaYmAn | debianin: one advantage with going cheap - if you break it you just buy another :P |
| 10:55.06 | RaYmAn | but it all depends on your usage |
| 10:55.28 | f1r3 | nice thnx |
| 10:55.58 | RaYmAn | Incidentally that breakout will also work on most a10/a13 tablets (giving jtag + uart) |
| 10:57.11 | debianin | a lot of offer on ebay, noone the right one. guys, who oaredy bought it from ebay and can suggest me the right device? |
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| 11:55.29 | freshman | i just turned on my cubieboard |
| 11:56.05 | freshman | and i saw info:event1,sun4i-ir |
| 11:56.17 | freshman | please oress ir remote |
| 11:56.31 | freshman | what should i do? |
| 11:56.49 | hipboi | press remote |
| 11:57.23 | freshman | i don't know which is the button |
| 11:57.38 | hipboi | do you have any ir remote at home? |
| 11:57.47 | hipboi | a tv remote |
| 11:57.48 | freshman | no |
| 11:57.56 | hipboi | air conditional remote |
| 11:58.05 | freshman | i'm at school |
| 11:58.25 | freshman | no |
| 11:58.44 | hipboi | ok |
| 11:58.57 | hipboi | do you have serial cable? |
| 11:59.05 | freshman | yes |
| 11:59.30 | hipboi | rm /root/.profile |
| 11:59.32 | hipboi | reboot |
| 12:01.02 | freshman | how to connect the cable? |
| 12:01.41 | hipboi | i think you are from China? |
| 12:02.02 | freshman | yeah |
| 12:02.13 | hipboi | <mnemoc> that type of cable is more appreciated than dongles |
| 12:02.21 | hipboi | oops |
| 12:02.25 | hipboi | paste wrong |
| 12:02.33 | hipboi | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/TTF-to-USB-Serial-line/665830339.html |
| 12:02.36 | hipboi | look at this page |
| 12:02.49 | hipboi | the signal of the line |
| 12:04.33 | mnemoc | oh, didn't know you were selling ttl/usb cables again |
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| 12:07.49 | alcides | 40%? :P pretty good |
| 12:10.18 | freshman | should i use putty? |
| 12:15.18 | thofle | I wanna visit the electronic markets in shenzhen again... |
| 12:15.30 | freshman | hello?ihave connected the cable ,what should i do next |
| 12:22.37 | freshman | hello |
| 12:22.39 | hipboi | next? |
| 12:22.52 | hipboi | do what do you want to do |
| 12:23.17 | freshman | i haven't rebbot it |
| 12:25.15 | Brano | Is it possible to install fedora (for example) on cubie without these cables? |
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| 12:25.31 | Brano | On RaspberryPi, I run it from uSD card |
| 12:25.35 | Brano | (for example) |
| 12:28.13 | hipboi | yes |
| 12:28.36 | hipboi | without serial cable, you can install fedora |
| 12:28.49 | hipboi | but fedora on cubieboard is underdevelopment |
| 12:30.12 | freshman | hipboi,please ,please help me |
| 12:30.46 | hipboi | help you with what? |
| 12:30.58 | mysteryname | freshman; what do you want to do with the cubieboarD? |
| 12:31.45 | freshman | install ubuntu,and use it as a tvbox |
| 12:32.12 | freshman | i'm just start with it |
| 12:32.54 | mysteryname | freshman; as far as I know, Watching videos is limited on the cubieboard. (though I'm unsure if there has been a break though) |
| 12:33.17 | mysteryname | However have you got an SD card to load Ubuntu onto the board? |
| 12:33.37 | freshman | at present i just want to boot it |
| 12:33.47 | freshman | no |
| 12:34.47 | freshman | when reach the step git clone https://github.com/matson-hall/allwinner-buildroot.git -b cubieboard,it stoped |
| 12:36.44 | mysteryname | Interesting, mine seems to work, have you tried to download the "zip" from the git website? |
| 12:37.30 | freshman | no |
| 12:37.47 | mysteryname | https://github.com/matson-hall/allwinner-buildroot |
| 12:37.53 | freshman | i just follow this http://linux-sunxi.org/Buildroot |
| 12:38.07 | mnemoc | zip snapshot = BAD idea |
| 12:38.42 | mysteryname | are the zips not regularly updated? |
| 12:39.27 | mnemoc | they match the commit from which you download it |
| 12:40.15 | mnemoc | but they not only kill symlinks and permissions, but your local tree will be out of sync after the next commit |
| 12:40.37 | mysteryname | aye I see. interesting thank you. |
| 12:41.13 | mnemoc | if you download the next, to extract it over, and it has renamed, you'll get both files (old and new) as a result |
| 12:41.20 | mnemoc | s/renamed/renames/ |
| 12:41.29 | mnemoc | bad idea |
| 12:41.39 | freshman | i really don't know which one to download |
| 12:41.48 | mysteryname | fair enough. |
| 12:42.11 | mnemoc | freshman: git clone, not [download] |
| 12:42.53 | freshman | thank you .i'm doing it |
| 12:46.28 | freshman | it stopped at 5% |
| 12:47.19 | mnemoc | :< |
| 12:49.22 | freshman | if i have a image,can i flash it directly? |
| 12:49.38 | mnemoc | depends on the kind of image |
| 12:49.49 | mnemoc | and for what device it was made |
| 12:49.57 | mnemoc | bbl |
| 12:50.36 | freshman | it's remain 5% now |
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| 12:54.18 | freshman | can i get an ununtu.img for cubieboard from the internet? |
| 13:00.20 | freshman | mnemoc;it stopped at 5%,what can i do? |
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| 13:02.26 | mysteryname | freshman, the ONLY think I can think of is an issue with the internet, I'm out of ideas sorry |
| 13:02.53 | freshman | thank you |
| 13:03.00 | kronos | I bought a $59 regular shipping cubieboard from indiegogo yesterday. What is the estimated time for it to be shipped? |
| 13:04.02 | mysteryname | kronos, at a guess a little while after it ends, It seems like they need the funding to buy the chips before they can manufacture a large amount. (pure speculation) |
| 13:08.04 | freshman | if anyone can send me a OS image for cubieboard .thank you |
| 13:13.40 | mnemoc | yes, this campaign is to fund the components, assembly and testing of the 3rd batch. they already have the 1k PCBs |
| 13:25.23 | pidpawel | what happend if the campaign will be raised before deadline? nothing? |
| 13:25.54 | mnemoc | it's flexible, it will continue beyond, and more boards will be made |
| 13:26.45 | pidpawel | so there is no chance of getting cb earlier or sth? |
| 13:27.24 | mnemoc | money collected via paypal can be used to manufacture before the end of the campaign |
| 13:28.01 | mnemoc | afaik money collected via CC can only be claimed after the end of the campaign, even if the goal is reached before |
| 13:29.17 | mnemoc | so, damn paypal is screwing us all :| |
| 13:29.26 | pidpawel | yes. |
| 13:30.20 | pidpawel | btw i were trying to send money from my bank account to paypal on wednesday |
| 13:30.30 | mnemoc | the current 20k (-514) will only be received weeks after the end of the campaign |
| 13:30.30 | pidpawel | i still dont have money on my paypal account |
| 13:31.04 | grimes99LT | think they get money 5 days after campaign ends |
| 13:31.04 | pidpawel | on the phone they told me that money will be available by the end of the day |
| 13:31.28 | mnemoc | grimes99LT: 5 days, and then the delay of the wire transfer to their account in china |
| 13:31.40 | pidpawel | after sending emaila they told that their team is looking into the case |
| 13:32.42 | grimes99LT | i asked indiegogo if they allowed projects to be paused.. they said it wasn't possible |
| 13:33.27 | mnemoc | grimes99LT: this is why the people of the notify me list wasn't notified (yet) |
| 13:33.34 | grimes99LT | $20043 raised now |
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| 13:34.19 | mnemoc | grimes99LT: not a nice move, but it's the only way to get some more funds via paypal |
| 13:35.12 | mnemoc | the account was blocked after mere $514, very very early |
| 13:35.31 | mnemoc | tons of frustration involved |
| 13:35.48 | mnemoc | specially considering the perks with promotional price |
| 13:47.14 | freshman | q |
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| 14:49.03 | look | who can tell me how to boot from sdcard? |
| 14:49.50 | mnemoc | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/wiki |
| 14:52.03 | look | ok,i want the laziest way |
| 14:54.01 | look | where can download a finished image |
| 14:55.40 | hno | look, finished image of what? |
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| 15:01.33 | look | cubieboard |
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| 15:48.23 | debianin | hno, i suppose look means he want a "image" of a complete OS to be flashed on cubieboard. |
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| 15:52.16 | Workboot | can I get a cubieboard dmesg somewhere? |
| 15:56.51 | debianin | mnemoc, are you in? |
| 15:57.25 | mnemoc | sort of |
| 15:57.38 | debianin | i got usb-miniUSB cable |
| 15:58.01 | debianin | i connect laptop to cb using that cable |
| 15:58.07 | debianin | red light on |
| 15:58.16 | debianin | i do lsusb on laptop |
| 15:58.37 | mnemoc | for fel you need to do that with the fel button pressed during power up |
| 15:58.47 | debianin | ok i redo. |
| 15:59.14 | mnemoc | then check for a device without name in lsusb |
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| 15:59.56 | debianin | mmm i take pressed the button under minusb, i connect miniusb. i type lsusb (as root) |
| 16:00.48 | debianin | no difference, seems lsusb dont see CB. |
| 16:01.51 | debianin | i try with desktop instea do laptop now. |
| 16:05.24 | mnemoc | remember to keep the fel button pressed _during_ power up |
| 16:06.12 | debianin | ok |
| 16:06.14 | mnemoc | and beware the the miniusb will power up the board |
| 16:06.25 | mnemoc | s/the/that/ |
| 16:06.31 | debianin | i se a new device. 1f3a:efe8 |
| 16:06.52 | debianin | is it? |
| 16:06.52 | mnemoc | that is fel :) |
| 16:06.56 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:06.59 | debianin | !!!!!! the light! |
| 16:07.03 | debianin | i see the light! :) |
| 16:07.06 | debianin | ok! |
| 16:07.12 | debianin | now? |
| 16:07.28 | debianin | some other thest with lsusb? |
| 16:07.43 | debianin | s/thest/test/ |
| 16:08.08 | mnemoc | you could use livesuit to reflash your cubieboard |
| 16:08.23 | mnemoc | (livesuit uses fel mode) |
| 16:08.40 | debianin | ok. |
| 16:09.17 | mnemoc | power up your board normally and check if the fel mode gets enabled "by default" or not |
| 16:09.21 | mnemoc | that would mean your nand is not bootable |
| 16:09.55 | debianin | wait a moment. |
| 16:10.43 | debianin | i re-done lsusb with laptop.. laptop dont see CB. this is the finally test that my laptop is a shit. |
| 16:10.57 | debianin | i must move to desktop to do the activities |
| 16:11.10 | mnemoc | if it's not in fel, you need either 1) look at the serial consolde, 2) get a known-to-work bootable uSD with fbcon pre-enabled |
| 16:11.46 | mnemoc | solving problems in arm devices without a serial console is.... complicated |
| 16:12.02 | debianin | i have uSD "empty" i must write on it the image. |
| 16:12.18 | debianin | yes, i must have a console line. |
| 16:12.33 | debianin | but i must order on line, need time to do. |
| 16:14.11 | debianin | i did what you say, i power up CB noemally and she is not seen by desktop. it means fel mode does not start automatically. |
| 16:14.36 | debianin | does it means nand is not bootable? |
| 16:14.36 | mnemoc | then nand booted |
| 16:14.46 | debianin | ah, nand booted. |
| 16:14.59 | mnemoc | problem is you don't see what it wants to tell you |
| 16:15.11 | debianin | so i should see somethin on hdmi monitor? |
| 16:15.21 | mnemoc | no, on the serial console |
| 16:15.25 | debianin | ah ok. |
| 16:15.48 | debianin | o got a image of 75M from hipboi, he told me to flash it on nand. |
| 16:16.09 | debianin | but i was wihout cable, i just buy it few minutes ago. |
| 16:18.30 | mnemoc | enter fel mode and use livesuit to flash that image |
| 16:20.14 | debianin | is livesuit working on gnu/linux 64bit? |
| 16:20.52 | mnemoc | never tried it, but there is a livesuit for linux |
| 16:21.27 | debianin | i can do using the windows version |
| 16:22.03 | mnemoc | needs a weird awusb kernel driver on your desktop, it's in linux-sunxi's allwinner-tools repo |
| 16:22.14 | mnemoc | if you can use windows, you'll have it easier there |
| 16:22.58 | debianin | good. is long the path to have this board working. but longer the street, bigger the sutisfation. |
| 16:24.37 | mnemoc | you were just unlucky, boards all come properly preinstaslled |
| 16:25.04 | debianin | anyway i hope a "good man" will do a image for uSD asap. |
| 16:25.12 | debianin | yes, trongly unluky. |
| 16:25.28 | mnemoc | that good man can be you ;-) |
| 16:25.41 | debianin | !!!! windows bsod!!!! nooo! |
| 16:25.54 | debianin | XP bsod :( |
| 16:26.00 | mnemoc | you don't buy a dev board if you don't want to learn and experiment |
| 16:26.04 | debianin | is windows Seven usable? |
| 16:26.14 | mnemoc | my last windows was 98se |
| 16:26.25 | debianin | im not complain the board, vbe sure of this. |
| 16:26.27 | debianin | s/vbe/be/ |
| 16:27.26 | mnemoc | get livesuit from matson-hall's repo |
| 16:27.33 | mnemoc | cubieboard branch |
| 16:27.59 | debianin | i am in hurry to make it working cos tomorros i wish to sho it working to some ppl, just that. |
| 16:28.17 | mnemoc | fair enough |
| 16:28.38 | mnemoc | but making your own uSD is simple |
| 16:29.49 | debianin | I have this link, http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit, is ok? |
| 16:30.01 | mnemoc | my xubuntu card has 7.8M used in the boot partition and 2.1G used in the rootfs |
| 16:30.31 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:30.32 | debianin | shrink down to a 2G and tottet it :) |
| 16:30.36 | debianin | torrent |
| 16:31.00 | mnemoc | nope |
| 16:31.10 | debianin | so i can create a uSD bootable? does it skip internal nand flash? |
| 16:31.17 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:31.36 | debianin | i mena, during boot, what is the precedence? 1st SD, 2nd flash? |
| 16:31.57 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:32.09 | debianin | if so, where are the link to crate a uSD? |
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| 16:33.50 | mnemoc | first zero the first MB of the card, (unmounted) |
| 16:33.54 | mnemoc | then https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/wiki |
| 16:34.30 | debianin | ok i go to read |
| 16:34.57 | mnemoc | be sure to add console=tty0 to the kernel command line |
| 16:35.15 | mnemoc | to have fbcon |
| 16:35.18 | debianin | ok |
| 16:36.04 | debianin | i bookmark he page :) |
| 16:45.42 | hno | mnemoc, do /dev/mem work for you? |
| 16:47.46 | mnemoc | never tried it |
| 16:53.52 | mnemoc | hno: anything in particular you would like me to try? |
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| 17:27.10 | bfree | 368 cubie perks claimed, $21,617 raised (43%) and it's now up on the indiegogo homepage :-/ hurry up paypal! |
| 17:29.06 | mnemoc | :o |
| 17:31.49 | bfree | though I guess hipboi will have to re-enable paypal on indiegogo once they clean up their mess, so it's possible they've done their bit by now |
| 17:32.59 | mnemoc | yes, possible |
| 17:33.41 | mnemoc | 1:30am over there, he might be sleeping.... |
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| 18:11.39 | QME | Is there anyone interested in A.I.? |
| 18:12.21 | debianin | Artificial Intelligence? |
| 18:12.44 | QME | You're right! |
| 18:12.52 | debianin | i am interested. |
| 18:13.30 | QME | =] |
| 18:13.34 | debianin | so? |
| 18:14.19 | debianin | QME, so what is the topic about AI? |
| 18:14.42 | mnemoc | $topic is cubieboard... |
| 18:14.43 | QME | Just ask. I might have a project which related in AI |
| 18:15.07 | debianin | QME, you can contact me directy. |
| 18:16.37 | QME | It could be need a Large database which can be host in house by ARM based board storage cluster |
| 18:17.04 | QME | Really? |
| 18:17.31 | debianin | i mena in private chat without disturb the channel |
| 18:18.06 | QME | I must find out some project for cubieboard for sure. =p |
| 18:18.22 | QME | OK I see |
| 18:18.32 | debianin | light desktop linux is tipical use. |
| 18:21.55 | *** part/#cubieboard QME (5fd35cea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.211.92.234) |
| 18:23.29 | mnemoc | there is an #ai channel iirc |
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| 18:28.07 | f1r3 | QME: yes i am working on a ai project, too, but not with the cubieboard |
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| 19:45.28 | mnemoc | uhm... what happened to the 2 10x claims? it's in zero now |
| 19:46.57 | grimes99 | yea saw the $ raised go backwards.. it was $21???? @ 44%.. |
| 19:48.38 | mnemoc | the 2 lost 10x claims were $1400 |
| 19:48.45 | mnemoc | very weird |
| 19:55.08 | nyrb | maybe they have some reasons to cancel and get money back to pay bills, maybe don't like cubieboard's specifications, or impatient to wait, etc.. :) |
| 19:55.27 | mnemoc | both at the same time? |
| 19:55.46 | mnemoc | also, I didn't know one can cancel the them... |
| 19:56.04 | mnemoc | at least i don't see how to cancel mine |
| 19:56.13 | nyrb | true.. i don't know |
| 19:56.50 | nyrb | maybe its bug in indiegogo or maybe fraudster :) |
| 19:57.28 | rm | how come the $29 one has "21 claimed" |
| 19:57.32 | rm | wasn't there only 20 of them :D |
| 19:57.52 | mnemoc | timing and the cloud :p |
| 19:58.05 | mnemoc | there can be many "last ones" |
| 20:47.43 | mnemoc | not sure if it means something to anyone, but connected my cubie to a power metter and when idling at 300MHz with xubuntu open, and using the crappy psu of my mele a1000 it takes 3.5W |
| 20:49.37 | mnemoc | i have ondemand set to keep 300MHz as minimal freq, the default is 60 but takes to long to react when needed |
| 20:53.54 | mnemoc | will try other combinations of usage later having mali and cedarx working |
| 20:57.06 | debianin | mnemoc, if you wil do a paper with the list of power consuming ad differend clock speed, i will read with interest. |
| 20:58.19 | mnemoc | nah, i don't have personal interest in that topic to make something detailed |
| 20:59.16 | debianin | ok |
| 21:03.06 | rm | yeah 3.5 to 4.5 |
| 21:03.13 | rm | for Mele A2000 |
| 21:03.15 | rm | afair |
| 21:03.34 | rm | the CPU frequency does not seem to impact power consumption alot |
| 21:07.35 | debianin | so what is the real impacting hardware? gpu? |
| 21:09.29 | rm | I can't say I measured it precisely beyond "around 4W" |
| 21:09.47 | rm | but it does seem that running with "no-Mali" kernels make it run cooler |
| 21:10.07 | rm | I remember my MK802 being extremely hot when in Android, connected to an HDMI display |
| 21:10.44 | rm | but in GNU/Linux with Mali disabled it runs at a tolerable temperature |
| 21:11.27 | maciel310 | Good to know, thanks for the info mnemoc |
| 21:11.45 | maciel310 | happen to have measured ~ how much it consumes in a low-powered state? Something like a sleep mode with a fast resume? |
| 21:12.06 | maciel310 | (assuming that is possible on these boards) |
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| 21:21.41 | mnemoc | not sure I how to send it to sleep |
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| 21:25.28 | maciel310 | would pm-suspend work? http://linux.die.net/man/8/pm-suspend |
| 21:25.50 | maciel310 | no clue if that'd be desktop/architecture specific |
| 21:40.12 | mnemoc | new boot, with the esata connected this time. it's standing on gdm. 2.5W |
| 21:40.16 | mnemoc | 2.0 now |
| 21:40.59 | mnemoc | pm-suspend |
| 21:41.04 | mnemoc | kernel panic :p |
| 21:41.05 | mnemoc | 0W |
| 21:41.10 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 21:53.13 | mnemoc | mailed indiegogo asking what happened with the 2 lost 10x claims. they replied the campaign was flagged for risk review and gave me the verification steps :| |
| 21:53.44 | mnemoc | so first blocked by paypal, now blocked by indiegogo itself |
| 21:53.45 | mnemoc | narf |
| 21:54.11 | pidpawel | yey. my money are at my paypal account at last ;D |
| 21:54.16 | pidpawel | *is? |
| 21:54.32 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:58.17 | maciel310 | haha, thanks for trying mnemoc. maybe the android builds will have better support for suspending. |
| 22:01.59 | mnemoc | aha. it's feeding from the hdmi... 1-1.5W diff if I plug/unplug the hdmi display |
| 22:04.51 | pidpawel | :D |
| 22:09.31 | debianin | mnemoc, hdmi cable can give power to cubieboard? |
| 22:10.45 | mnemoc | seems so |
| 22:11.11 | pidpawel | actually it should be working otherwise. |
| 22:11.23 | mnemoc | but it's the hdmi of a motorola lapdock, it might be designed to cheat |
| 22:11.55 | pidpawel | ie my monitor is properly recognised by laptop even if its disconnedted from power source. |
| 22:13.06 | mnemoc | afaik the computer only neads to read an eeprom in the display |
| 22:13.51 | mnemoc | that probably doesn't need much power |
| 22:14.56 | mnemoc | but been on GDM with hdmi disconnected 3.5W. connected 2-2.5W |
| 22:14.56 | mnemoc | s/GDM/gdm/ |
| 22:16.05 | mnemoc | but as the lapdock has it's own battery and it's supposed to feed the phone, it might do tricks to use both, the microhdmi and the microusb connector to send power somehow |
| 22:16.31 | mnemoc | but I'm only connected to it via hdmi right now |
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| 23:53.02 | discopig | 2-2.5W isn't so bad |
| 23:53.56 | mnemoc | that's cheating. it's feeding from the HDMI |