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| 00:09.11 | [7] | does the cubie have a real time clock btw? |
| 00:13.42 | alcides | no |
| 00:15.31 | [7] | hm, why are all the good boards lacking rtcs... |
| 00:15.52 | maciel310 | one of the next revisions is supposed to add it |
| 00:16.52 | alcides | yes |
| 00:16.56 | alcides | next netx revision |
| 00:24.12 | [7] | along with gigabit ethernet, wifi, bluetooth, a full size sd card slot, more sata ports and sata multiplier support? ;) |
| 00:26.15 | alcides | I don't think that A10 support more sata ports |
| 00:26.31 | [7] | who says that it must be a10? |
| 00:27.19 | [7] | maybe I'll dig into ahci and check whether it can be made multiplier aware in software |
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| 08:26.27 | grimes99 | how long does it take to issue a temporary password for indiegogo? |
| 08:27.00 | mnemoc | those things are usually instant |
| 08:27.12 | mnemoc | + email delivery delays |
| 08:27.43 | grimes99 | yea thanks.. was a 4 mins delay got it now |
| 08:28.17 | RaYmAn | It's interesting that two people have claimed the 59$ offer when there's still 49$ offers left |
| 08:28.42 | mnemoc | yes |
| 08:29.06 | mnemoc | 1 of them did while there were still $39 offers |
| 08:29.48 | RaYmAn | :) |
| 08:29.59 | RaYmAn | just 45k$ to go :P |
| 08:30.56 | mnemoc | he still hasn't notified the 4k+ people paciently waiting in the [notify me] list |
| 08:31.36 | RaYmAn | yup |
| 08:31.37 | mnemoc | only the nerds in irc and the mailing list |
| 08:31.56 | grimes99 | do indiegogo take payment straight away and hold it? |
| 08:32.02 | mnemoc | yes |
| 08:32.13 | RaYmAn | afaik no |
| 08:32.23 | RaYmAn | they reserve payment on the CC |
| 08:32.27 | RaYmAn | i think? |
| 08:32.37 | RaYmAn | it might be different with flexible campaigns I guess |
| 08:32.45 | mnemoc | reserves can not last longer than a couple of weeks afaik |
| 08:32.58 | RaYmAn | I wonder how kickstarter does it then |
| 08:33.08 | RaYmAn | cause they don't take the money till it succeeds |
| 08:33.16 | mnemoc | they might keep the data to re-do the transaction later |
| 08:33.41 | mnemoc | first a dummy reserve to check if the card is valid, and then wait |
| 08:34.03 | RaYmAn | I guess it's possible - they do use amazon payments which usually saves your info anyways |
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| 08:39.35 | grimes99 | what would I need to run irc client on cubie? |
| 08:39.52 | RaYmAn | apt-get install <your choosen irc client>? |
| 08:39.53 | RaYmAn | :) |
| 08:45.51 | f1r3__ | aptitude install screen irssi |
| 08:47.18 | grimes99 | thanks |
| 08:47.56 | f1r3__ | cd /usr/ports/misc/screen/ && make && make install && make clean && cd /usr/ports/net/irssi/ && make && make install && make clean |
| 08:47.58 | mnemoc | assuming he has debian/ubuntu installed on it... |
| 08:48.18 | f1r3__ | assuming you are on openbsd |
| 08:48.28 | mnemoc | openbsd @ a10? |
| 08:48.35 | RaYmAn | not impossible :P |
| 08:49.15 | f1r3__ | but more likely there will be a netbsd for a10 |
| 08:54.51 | des2 | Openbsd doesn't like closed things. |
| 08:59.53 | mnemoc | you can run an a10 without any closed bit without troubles |
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| 09:09.34 | f1r3__ | is there a rtc batch3 cubieboards ? |
| 09:10.22 | mnemoc | f1r3__: the A10 has an rtc inside. only a battery is missing |
| 09:10.56 | mnemoc | f1r3__: but batch3 is basically the same as batch 1 and 2 (2012-08-08) but with minor pcb corrections |
| 09:11.36 | mnemoc | so it's more like a cubieboard 1.1 than a cubieboard 2 |
| 09:11.45 | f1r3__ | ok, a friend asked me about because he read on homepage : we will add rtc in the future revision. |
| 09:12.32 | f1r3__ | i am sure he is able to add a CR2032 to his cubieboard |
| 09:18.49 | mnemoc | not sure were will he find space for that |
| 09:22.07 | debianin | cubieboard seems to have a lot o f free surface: how many layers are? |
| 09:23.01 | mnemoc | 6 |
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| 09:24.53 | mnemoc | loves the terseness of a10-based boards |
| 09:30.09 | f1r3__ | is http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/cubieboard_schematic_2012-08-08.pdf the latest schematic including the fixes ? |
| 09:31.42 | mnemoc | afaik fixes don't affect the schematics, only routing and and minor layout changes |
| 09:33.02 | mnemoc | some sata pins swapped (currently fixed manually) and more separation of the legs of the IR |
| 09:34.01 | mnemoc | hopefully they'll do something regarding the audio jacks too |
| 09:41.48 | debianin | mnemoc, where is hipboi? neet to talk with. |
| 09:42.46 | mnemoc | not here... try an email |
| 09:43.18 | debianin | cant email. hope he will came :( |
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| 10:05.16 | pidpawel | is paypal payment active right now? |
| 10:05.35 | mnemoc | nope |
| 10:06.00 | mnemoc | and only 28 free shipping boards left |
| 10:11.56 | pidpawel | so… i just bought my cb! ;) |
| 10:12.07 | mnemoc | :) |
| 10:17.20 | pidpawel | btw why either thermal printer or sata multiplexer are more expensive than cb which could be „in charge” of it? ;) |
| 10:19.33 | des2 | because. |
| 10:20.32 | pidpawel | ok :D |
| 10:20.47 | pidpawel | have anyone tried installing gentoo on cb? |
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| 10:22.00 | mnemoc | pidpawel: on other A10 boards, yes |
| 10:23.18 | pidpawel | good enough :) |
| 10:33.49 | debianin | i have cubieboard on table. conncted ket/mouse, connected hdmi. i plug usb cable for power, red led tur on.... and nothing more. what is wrong?, |
| 10:34.28 | pidpawel | turn on the monitor. |
| 10:34.35 | pidpawel | screen. |
| 10:34.40 | debianin | alreday on the monitor, of course! |
| 10:35.09 | debianin | maybe not enough the power? it cam from laptop usb. let me try desktop. |
| 10:36.03 | RaYmAn | you'll probably want to test with a "proper" usb psu that allows drawing well above the 500mA usb allows for |
| 10:36.13 | debianin | monitor report "no signal". |
| 10:36.41 | mnemoc | the power on the hdmi cable is enough to power the red led |
| 10:36.42 | debianin | i have not proper power supply, im using the cable caming with cubieboard. |
| 10:37.18 | mnemoc | debianin: 1-2A usb power supplies for phones or tablets work great |
| 10:37.20 | debianin | mnemoc, no, il i leave only the hdmi cable withoul usb pwer cable, red light dont came on |
| 10:37.38 | debianin | mnemoc, let me chect at home. |
| 10:37.59 | mnemoc | you can also use the 3A power brick of the mele |
| 10:40.49 | debianin | ok, i have 2 power recharger of nokia mobile phone. 1st say "output DC 5.7V/800mA" second say "output 3.7V 355mA-1.3A". |
| 10:41.49 | debianin | mnemoc, ideas? |
| 10:41.51 | mnemoc | :< |
| 10:42.29 | pidpawel | neither should work. |
| 10:43.00 | pidpawel | do you have „power usb” ports in your laptop/pc? |
| 10:43.10 | pidpawel | or esata/usb combined ports? |
| 10:43.29 | debianin | what do you mean with "power usb"? |
| 10:43.37 | des2 | The 5.7v one night actually work if you put a diode in series. |
| 10:43.52 | des2 | The 3.7 one would need a DC-DC converter. |
| 10:44.09 | debianin | what the hell! cubieboard without power supply!!! |
| 10:44.52 | debianin | i bave power supply of raspberry 5V 1200mA but ica came with micro usb connector. |
| 10:44.53 | des2 | uh oh. I forget, how much power in watts does the cubie use ? |
| 10:45.45 | debianin | and of courese it does not match with mini sub port ptesent on cb! damn! |
| 10:46.58 | mnemoc | that's why usb power supplies shouldn't come with the cable built in :< |
| 10:47.04 | debianin | so, how much must be the power supply? 5V 2A? |
| 10:47.23 | mnemoc | 1A is enough if you don't power a sata drive |
| 10:48.15 | debianin | from normal usb of laptop (mouse, keyboard, etc) it can came out 500mA.... are they not enough for bare CB? |
| 10:49.10 | mnemoc | mine works powered by the mini usb from my laptop. yours might be giving less than 500mA |
| 10:51.42 | mnemoc | weirdly my a13-olinuxino can't |
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| 11:18.05 | debianin | im back. I connected cubieboard to usb tha i usually use to connect an externale usb disk 2.5''. disk works with usbpowr supply, CB doesnt. |
| 11:19.02 | debianin | i join power usb. the only action of CB is turn on red light. after some second "no signal" advise disappears from monitor thae no else. |
| 11:19.29 | debianin | no blinking light, no plinking cursor on black monitor... no of nothing. |
| 11:19.41 | debianin | mayve CB needs minutes to turn on? |
| 11:20.24 | debianin | there are 2 micro button on CB (near hdmi and near miniUSB) are they for what? |
| 11:20.48 | debianin | please dudes, help me :( |
| 11:21.51 | mnemoc | debianin: use the power cable included, rounded 4.4mm to usb |
| 11:22.26 | grimes99 | which makes of mobile phone charger have 2A? (apple?) |
| 11:22.44 | mnemoc | debianin: my N7 also came with 2A usb charger |
| 11:22.49 | mnemoc | err |
| 11:22.54 | mnemoc | grimes99: my N7 also came with 2A usb charger |
| 11:22.59 | debianin | mnemoc, is exactly what im doing. the cable included in the box. usb one side, round yello head the other side. |
| 11:23.21 | mnemoc | debianin: then plug a serial console |
| 11:23.28 | debianin | mnemoc, i havent :( |
| 11:23.48 | debianin | o gon onlu usb cable and sata cable included, no more :( |
| 11:24.54 | debianin | I got only usb cable and sata cable included, no more :( |
| 11:26.54 | debianin | shall i press the micro buttons? are these two microbuttons for what? |
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| 11:30.36 | mnemoc | debianin: weird, mail tom about it. the power cable was supposed to be included |
| 11:31.15 | debianin | power cable or power supply? i got only power cable? |
| 11:31.17 | debianin | power cable or power supply? i got only power cable. |
| 11:31.40 | mnemoc | power cable |
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| 11:31.48 | mnemoc | rounded on one side, usb on the other |
| 11:32.22 | mnemoc | freeshipping boards sold out |
| 11:32.37 | debianin | mnemoc, yes. dounded one side to plug in cb, usb the other to plug in laptop/desktop usb port. |
| 11:32.46 | debianin | mnemoc, yes. rounded one side to plug in cb, usb the other to plug in laptop/desktop usb port. |
| 11:32.55 | mello | hi, I made the donation of $49 but no perk was shown on my contribuitions page. What it means? |
| 11:32.59 | mnemoc | debianin: or a usb power supply |
| 11:33.22 | mnemoc | mello: you can make perk-less donations |
| 11:33.35 | mnemoc | it depends on what you choose |
| 11:34.13 | mello | yeah, I see that (this is my first donation), but I realy wanna receive a board |
| 11:34.21 | mello | what can I do now? |
| 11:34.44 | mnemoc | mello: no idea :< |
| 11:34.52 | mello | ack |
| 11:35.08 | mnemoc | mello: there are no $49 freeshipping boards available anymore |
| 11:35.36 | mnemoc | mello: I suppose that, if you talk with indiegogo and add the extra $10 you can exchange it for a board |
| 11:36.07 | mello | ok, i will try |
| 12:09.04 | debianin | someone know the function of the 2 mino buttons present on cubieboard? |
| 12:11.58 | grimes99 | think button is something todo with FEL mode? |
| 12:12.22 | debianin | FEL? wat means? |
| 12:13.11 | grimes99 | some kind of recovery mode |
| 12:13.14 | debianin | ok. |
| 12:13.52 | debianin | btw. near round power connector is wrote "5V 2A". so i must buy a power supplier, definitively. |
| 12:15.24 | debianin | btw2: usb, miniUSB microUSB... what the hell how much usb format should exists??!?!?! tomorro i will develop picoUSB format!!! |
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| 12:30.21 | grimes99 | $10053 raised |
| 12:31.11 | des2 | There are too many USB cable formats. |
| 12:31.35 | mnemoc | des2: but there are adapters ;-) |
| 12:33.06 | debianin | mnemoc, adapters are the hell of complexity |
| 12:33.30 | debianin | o get out to buy power supply 5V@1/2A :( |
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| 12:33.56 | mnemoc | debianin: a cheap usb power supply for "ipad" will do |
| 12:34.18 | debianin | mnemoc, thanks for suggestion. |
| 12:34.34 | mnemoc | pretty stupid the r-pi's psu comes with cable built in :< |
| 12:35.50 | debianin | but it run rpi out of the box |
| 12:36.39 | mnemoc | debianin: it could do with a normal usb/microusb cable as all other sane devices |
| 12:37.05 | mnemoc | and it would let you reuse the psu for any 5V usb device |
| 12:37.18 | pidpawel | will it run on a dlink ap psu? |
| 12:37.29 | debianin | mnemoc, power supply for raspberry give microusb connector, what is tht wrong? |
| 12:37.33 | pidpawel | what are the dimensions of power socket? |
| 12:37.59 | grimes99 | is DC connector on CB centre positive? |
| 12:38.46 | debianin | the helll! my router power supply is 5V 1A but yhr rounf plug is to much larger to fit cb!!!! |
| 12:40.25 | mnemoc | debianin: having a female type a usb and a separated usb/microusb is what civilized devices do |
| 12:40.47 | debianin | bye i go. |
| 12:42.17 | pidpawel | but civilized companies attach all cables needed to run device ootb ;) |
| 12:42.37 | mnemoc | the cubie comes with all needed cables |
| 12:42.49 | pidpawel | and psu? |
| 12:43.15 | mnemoc | I have at least a dozen unused usb PSU. i don't want yet another |
| 12:44.00 | mnemoc | custom rounded to normal usb cable is good |
| 12:44.03 | pidpawel | oh. i found it ;) |
| 12:44.22 | pidpawel | http://imgur.com/a/vP2T6 |
| 12:44.39 | pidpawel | this usb->dc whatever cable comes with cb? |
| 12:44.57 | mnemoc | funny, that picture is mine :p |
| 12:45.05 | mnemoc | yes, that is the power cable I'm talking about |
| 12:45.13 | pidpawel | :D |
| 12:45.47 | mnemoc | plug it to a quality charger from any modern phone or tablet and you are done |
| 12:46.02 | mnemoc | no need to ship crappy power supplies |
| 12:46.12 | pidpawel | i thought that is comes with no dc cable at all |
| 12:46.21 | pidpawel | so now its [solved] ;) |
| 12:46.40 | mnemoc | comes with that cable, and with a sata+power cable |
| 12:46.55 | mnemoc | to use the 2 pin 5V header to power a sata drive |
| 12:46.56 | pidpawel | btw have you ever thought if deatachable ir receiver wouldnt be more useful? |
| 12:47.31 | pidpawel | could you (or anyone) make photos of everything whats in the package? |
| 12:47.40 | mnemoc | it might be more expensive than a cheap ir receiver to solder in |
| 12:47.50 | pidpawel | i can do hq photos (like stock) but i dont have cb ;) |
| 12:48.00 | mnemoc | mine is pre-package |
| 12:48.17 | mnemoc | http://cubieboard.org/2012/09/30/ready-to-ship/ |
| 12:48.18 | pidpawel | if its tht i can always desolder it ;D |
| 12:48.39 | pidpawel | not so nice photos |
| 12:48.44 | mnemoc | you can see both cables there |
| 12:48.55 | pidpawel | ie they dont show attached cables right |
| 12:49.14 | pidpawel | i se only that there are some cables attached |
| 12:49.15 | mnemoc | http://cubieboard.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/boxes_of_cb_sample.jpg |
| 12:49.35 | mnemoc | two cables, sata (with power) and dc |
| 12:49.35 | pidpawel | this dc cable usb male plug is looking like hdmi cable ;) |
| 12:50.08 | mnemoc | flat red is sata |
| 12:50.19 | mnemoc | black with yellow head, usb/dc |
| 12:50.43 | pidpawel | btw - a nice way of making „photos” of varios devices is scanning them with casual scanner ;) |
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| 12:51.39 | mnemoc | i'm not into phones, blogs or reviews. I only made 3 simple pictures and uploaded them to imgur |
| 12:51.58 | mnemoc | easier than describing what's in the box |
| 12:52.54 | mnemoc | btw, about the IR, after taking the last picture of that album i realized you can twist the legs of the IR enough to close the "case" correctly |
| 12:53.42 | pidpawel | yhm ;) |
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| 12:56.20 | pidpawel | http://hexus.net/tech/news/systems/46653-raspberry-pi-now-comes-standard-512mb-ram/ nice cases :D |
| 12:57.09 | mnemoc | there is a dwf file in dl.cubieboard.org if you want to design a case |
| 13:00.17 | pidpawel | right now i just want to get it :) |
| 13:00.30 | pidpawel | cases and other fancy stuff have to wait ;) |
| 13:02.26 | pidpawel | its not cb related but maybe you can help. http://wklej.org/hash/b9d68f0ff06/ its on mips router. |
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| 13:03.06 | alcides | $10,477 |
| 13:03.07 | alcides | Raised of $50,000 Goal |
| 13:03.07 | alcides | 44 days left |
| 13:03.14 | alcides | 1/5 in 1 day |
| 13:03.15 | alcides | not bad |
| 13:06.36 | des2 | WHen is he going to inform all the people waiting on the list ? |
| 13:07.26 | pidpawel | probably when his paypal account gets unlocked |
| 13:18.05 | mnemoc | yes |
| 13:18.51 | mnemoc | these 10k won't be received until the campaign ends, so they can't be used to manufacture boards before december |
| 13:20.50 | mnemoc | tom already uploaded all the papers they wanted, but paypal takes it's time |
| 14:10.11 | QME | HELLO! Could Cubieboard be support by Ubuntu 12.04? |
| 14:11.20 | mnemoc | mine runs xubuntu 12.04 without troubles |
| 14:14.25 | QME | I see. Thanks! mnemoc |
| 14:16.18 | QME | Did you tried this? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm |
| 14:24.02 | mnemoc | i debootstrapped mine |
| 14:27.27 | QME | Some what like this? http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Installation/Linux#Using_32Bit_on_64Bit |
| 14:28.20 | mnemoc | get a cubie first ;-) |
| 14:29.40 | QME | OH! That would be a great idea. =] |
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| 14:55.15 | debianin | mnemoc, are you in? |
| 14:55.46 | mnemoc | depends |
| 14:56.12 | debianin | look, i bought power supply. 5V 2250mA |
| 14:56.20 | debianin | no success, boad does not boot. |
| 14:56.30 | debianin | same beaviour: red lignt no more. |
| 14:56.54 | debianin | question: is the power supply connector POSITIVE INSIDE, NEGATIVE OUTSIDE or viceversa? |
| 14:57.39 | debianin | because standard is negative outside and positive inside, so i did it. |
| 14:58.17 | mnemoc | get a serial console or try fel |
| 14:59.18 | debianin | you mean to press button during boot? |
| 14:59.53 | debianin | there are 2 buttons, what choose? |
| 15:00.48 | mnemoc | the FEL button is under the miniusb port |
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| 15:00.59 | mnemoc | keep it pressed during power up |
| 15:01.11 | debianin | ok let me try, wait. |
| 15:01.17 | mnemoc | then connect microusb and check if you see an unnamed device in lsusb |
| 15:03.00 | debianin | pressed button. poerr up. nothin happen. only usb keibord is in. |
| 15:03.43 | debianin | pressed button. power up. nothing happen. only usb keibord is in. |
| 15:04.25 | mnemoc | who said something about a keyboard? |
| 15:04.26 | mnemoc | connect the cubie to your computer using the otg port and check lsusb |
| 15:04.55 | debianin | i have not otg cable |
| 15:05.16 | mnemoc | normal miniusb/usb cable |
| 15:05.17 | debianin | the hell, what more i need? |
| 15:05.24 | debianin | i have not. |
| 15:07.14 | debianin | i did other test. connect 2.5 hdd using included sata wire, powered by cb. the cb is powered by 5V@2.25A. but hdd does not start to rotate. |
| 15:09.09 | mnemoc | experimenting like that won't tell you anything |
| 15:10.09 | debianin | mmm... it tell me thyat maybe problem is on electrical side. power does not reach hdd, so it dont rotate. |
| 15:11.03 | debianin | anyway i must find miniusb/usb cable and connect cb to nomal pc and run on it lsusb? i soppose this is the only way. |
| 15:11.16 | mnemoc | if your nand is not bootable it's stuck in FEL mode, and that is VERY early |
| 15:11.21 | debianin | what lsusb should answer me? |
| 15:11.27 | mnemoc | even before the sata pins are configured |
| 15:11.40 | mnemoc | lsusb will tell you if fel mode is active or not |
| 15:11.53 | MarkusBec | lsusb under a linux distribution |
| 15:13.08 | debianin | run lsusb against your CB and tell me what os the output of the command. |
| 15:13.46 | MarkusBec | lsusb is a tool that shows all USB devices connected to a linux PC |
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| 15:15.02 | debianin | MarkusBec, I know what is linux since 1999 and also what lsusb is. i need only to know what lsusb see "reading" Cubieboard. |
| 15:22.59 | debianin | mnemoc, lets say nan is not bootable. can have here 2 empty microSD, one 512M, the second 2G. shat can I do? can i reverse on these a bootable image? |
| 15:24.39 | mnemoc | you can boot from those, yes. but you won't get anything on the hdmi by default. you need a ttl/usb adapter for a serial console |
| 15:24.55 | debianin | !!! the hell !!! |
| 15:25.19 | debianin | so i MUST have that bastard ttl/usb console :( |
| 15:25.27 | debianin | not so easy to find here. |
| 15:25.32 | debianin | i must order. |
| 15:25.33 | mnemoc | have i mentioned the cubie is a development board? |
| 15:25.37 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:25.53 | debianin | mnemoc, yes you did. |
| 15:26.08 | mnemoc | having a usb power supply, a miniusb cable and a ttl/usb adapter isn't such a big req. :) |
| 15:26.40 | debianin | but i cant beleave noone did already a image. someone say his xubuntu is well running... |
| 15:27.23 | mnemoc | debianin: another way is to try to reflash your nand. building a new buildroot image and using livesuit as described at http://linux-sunxi.org/Buildroot |
| 15:27.45 | mnemoc | my xubuntu runs, yes. from uSD |
| 15:27.47 | debianin | mnemoc, thanks, i go to read. |
| 15:28.12 | debianin | mnemoc, so, can you "dd" your uSD and share it? |
| 15:28.31 | mnemoc | i tend to ignore the nand of these things as it's awfully slow |
| 15:28.46 | mnemoc | 16GB, not nice for dd |
| 15:28.59 | mnemoc | instruction wannabes are at http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card |
| 15:29.00 | debianin | !!! |
| 15:29.05 | debianin | ok |
| 15:29.24 | mnemoc | that page assumes you know how to build u-boot and the kernel |
| 15:30.10 | mnemoc | while inside the qemu-ed chroot you might want to `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop` or similar |
| 15:30.23 | debianin | never used u-boot before, but i can try. btw is 2G uSD enough? |
| 15:30.29 | mnemoc | yes |
| 15:30.40 | debianin | ok. |
| 15:30.50 | debianin | what is that "EPOT"? |
| 15:31.04 | mnemoc | EOT? |
| 15:31.39 | debianin | dd if=/dev/zero of=$card bs=1M count=1 |
| 15:31.39 | debianin | sfdisk -R $card |
| 15:31.39 | debianin | cat <<EOT | sfdisk -uM $card |
| 15:31.39 | debianin | 1,16,c |
| 15:31.39 | debianin | 17,,L |
| 15:31.39 | debianin | EOT |
| 15:31.39 | mnemoc | a marking for to tell the shell where to end sending stuff to stdou |
| 15:31.41 | debianin | mkfs.vfat ${card}1 |
| 15:31.44 | debianin | mkfs.ext4 ${card}2 |
| 15:32.01 | mnemoc | don't paste that stuff to the channel, please |
| 15:32.08 | debianin | ok sorry. |
| 15:32.23 | debianin | let me try to work on it, i wll came here again if question. |
| 15:33.27 | mnemoc | EOT marks where the text to dump to sfdisk ends |
| 15:33.31 | mnemoc | can be any token, but needs to match what's after << |
| 15:33.31 | mnemoc | depending on the geometry of your card -uM might not work |
| 15:33.32 | mnemoc | the first partition goes at 2048*512 bytes |
| 15:33.45 | mnemoc | (that is 1M( |
| 15:33.50 | mnemoc | (that is 1M) |
| 15:34.17 | debianin | ok |
| 15:34.28 | mnemoc | that first partition is 16M, and the rootfs partition goes right after that |
| 15:34.38 | debianin | let me try first with the "little" 512M uSD. |
| 15:35.14 | mnemoc | you won't get a desktop there |
| 15:35.31 | mnemoc | fine if you want serial console or ssh-only |
| 15:35.37 | mnemoc | but not a desktop on hdmi |
| 15:35.56 | debianin | mnemoc, desktop is not really required, i wish at least CLI on hdmi |
| 15:36.01 | debianin | mmm |
| 15:36.39 | debianin | can i got mommand line interface on hdmi? my fist goal is this. |
| 15:37.19 | debianin | can i got Command Line Interface on hdmi? my fist goal is this. |
| 15:38.28 | mnemoc | fbcon (framebuffer console), yes |
| 15:38.53 | mnemoc | but you'll need to modify the u-boot env, and be sure to enable fbcon on your kernel |
| 15:40.22 | debianin | mmm sfdisk dilike my uSD :( |
| 15:40.33 | debianin | mmm sfdisk dislike my uSD :( |
| 15:40.42 | mnemoc | try fdisk |
| 15:40.48 | debianin | ok |
| 15:40.51 | mnemoc | or any other partitioning tool |
| 15:41.11 | mnemoc | 1M empty, 16MB for the boot partition, the rest for the rootfs partition |
| 15:41.33 | debianin | fdisk does not accept "-R" option, ARGGHH!!!! |
| 15:41.57 | mnemoc | you can ignore that line |
| 15:42.13 | mnemoc | it's to force a re-read of the partitions |
| 15:42.18 | debianin | ok |
| 15:42.20 | mnemoc | which were emptied in the first step |
| 15:42.33 | mnemoc | but sure the card is not mounted |
| 15:42.38 | mnemoc | s/but/be/ |
| 15:43.21 | debianin | yes it is not mounted |
| 15:43.42 | debianin | fdisk dislike also -M. |
| 15:43.45 | debianin | mmm |
| 15:43.55 | debianin | ok, lets go with 2G uSD |
| 15:44.11 | mnemoc | what -M ? |
| 15:44.25 | debianin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.34 | debianin | it is parto pf the istruction to type. |
| 15:44.42 | mnemoc | that's -uM, not -u -M |
| 15:44.47 | debianin | http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card |
| 15:44.51 | mnemoc | but that is sfdisk-specific |
| 15:45.11 | debianin | yes, i typed -uM, i got "-M not allowed" ansver |
| 15:45.53 | mnemoc | you can't just copy arguments from one tool to another |
| 15:46.29 | mnemoc | each partitioning tools has it's own ways |
| 15:46.30 | debianin | you are right. sorry im nervous and do "unthinked" actions. |
| 15:46.38 | mnemoc | tool* |
| 15:46.55 | mnemoc | 1M empty, 16MB for the boot partition, the rest for the rootfs partition |
| 15:47.02 | mnemoc | ^--- that's your goal |
| 15:48.28 | debianin | idea: cfdisk and create sdc1 1M. then sdc2 adn so on. then clean sdc1. it means 1Mhole at beginning. |
| 15:48.47 | debianin | let me try.... |
| 15:48.53 | mnemoc | no |
| 15:49.08 | debianin | no? |
| 15:49.17 | mnemoc | it will inject a gap before the sdc1 |
| 15:50.02 | debianin | mmm. all in all why it in needed than 1M empty? |
| 15:50.11 | mnemoc | for u-boot |
| 15:50.18 | debianin | ok. now i know. |
| 15:50.29 | debianin | so u-boot will be wrote there? |
| 15:50.37 | mnemoc | yes |
| 15:50.47 | mnemoc | using two dd calls |
| 15:50.58 | debianin | ok now i can see the light at the end of tunnel of my ARM ignorance. |
| 15:52.08 | debianin | now i read man sfdsik to understand the -uM option. |
| 15:52.47 | mnemoc | btw, with the sunxi device in fel mode `lsusb` will show a 1f3a:efe8 device without description |
| 15:53.11 | debianin | btw: cant you "dd" the mbr of your uSD? i can reverse on my one. |
| 15:55.30 | mnemoc | ok ok. let me find my cubie |
| 15:55.47 | debianin | ehehe good. |
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| 15:58.47 | mnemoc | https://filetea.me/t1s70872 |
| 15:59.17 | debianin | ok |
| 15:59.52 | debianin | on the go |
| 16:01.31 | debianin | ok, i dd-ed on uSD |
| 16:02.07 | debianin | if i do cfdisk it cannot read /dev/sdc |
| 16:02.36 | gzamboni | anyone have news about the 2nd batch ? |
| 16:02.57 | mnemoc | mostly shipped afaik |
| 16:03.19 | gzamboni | i made a command on aliexpress but it is still waiting for shipment ... |
| 16:03.34 | gzamboni | oh, ok, so mine should be one of the last :P |
| 16:05.04 | mnemoc | wait 48h since the last comment and ask him again |
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| 16:07.58 | debianin | mnemoc, i thank for you help but for today i have to resign. anyway the link you gave to me, http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card, seems only a section of a more big process. fron where can i start to realize a working uSD? |
| 16:10.13 | mnemoc | it's not a tutorial, but includes all the details about making a bootable sd card |
| 16:10.45 | mnemoc | doesn't tell you how to build u-boot, or the kernel or how to tweak your target's userspace. it's out of scope |
| 16:14.38 | debianin | mmm long will be the way to make usable my cb :( |
| 16:15.18 | mnemoc | debianin: don't forget to order a ttl/usb adapter |
| 16:17.24 | debianin | i will not forget. |
| 16:18.49 | MarkusBec | sd cards with less than 4gb are extrem slow |
| 16:18.57 | MarkusBec | use SDHC cardes |
| 16:19.00 | debianin | it is 3.3V ot 1.8V? i dont wat to "cook" the board. |
| 16:19.06 | mnemoc | 3.3V |
| 16:22.14 | gzamboni | its cubieboard, not cookieboard, lol |
| 16:24.22 | bfree | debianin: sounds to me like you got the dd command or partitioning wrong if cfdisk stopped being able to read the sd after the dd? did you remember "bs=1024 seek=32" for dd of uboot (and the bs and seek for the .bin also)? did your first partition really start at 1M (e.g. 2048*512) into the card? |
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| 16:56.42 | debianin | bfree, i just follow step-by-sher the "partitioning" section of http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card#External |
| 16:57.33 | mnemoc | it's not intended to be blindly followed |
| 16:57.59 | mnemoc | don't run any line without understanding what it does and why |
| 16:58.19 | debianin | i supposed it was. my fault. |
| 16:58.37 | mnemoc | i don't do tutorials, only write notes |
| 16:58.56 | mnemoc | maybe someone can eventually turn it into a tutorial |
| 16:59.29 | debianin | tutorial is welcome |
| 16:59.30 | mnemoc | i actually hate tutorials becomes people follows them dumbly |
| 16:59.39 | mnemoc | s/becomes/because/ |
| 17:00.05 | debianin | at least tutorial make readers to get a working result. |
| 17:00.42 | debianin | anyway in this case i will appreciate a "already done" working image for uSD:) |
| 17:00.48 | mnemoc | sure, feel free to turn it into a tutorial after you digest it :) |
| 17:01.17 | debianin | i wonder if raspbian will boot on cubieboard... |
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| 20:59.19 | nyrb | $15,352 and 253 funders :) |
| 21:00.31 | nyrb | 273 cubieboards |
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| 21:02.22 | debianin | cubieboard rocks! :D |
| 21:06.00 | mnemoc | paypal sucks! :( |
| 21:07.56 | pidpawel | yep. |
| 21:10.09 | mnemoc | hipboi said he will be mailing the [notify me] people tomorrow, regardless how the paypal thing goes |
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| 21:25.13 | TheSeven | <mnemoc> paypal sucks! :( << absolutely |
| 21:26.33 | TheSeven | if only bitcoin had some more acceptance... |
| 21:28.32 | mnemoc | with international projects it's not juect aobut acceptance, but legality |
| 21:28.54 | mnemoc | uh.... asty typios |
| 21:28.56 | mnemoc | f* |
| 21:29.32 | mnemoc | ok, going offiline |
| 21:29.35 | mnemoc | aaarg |
| 21:29.38 | mnemoc | offline* |
| 21:29.40 | mnemoc | cu |
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| 21:41.14 | TheSeven | well, governments keep telling it isn't money, that makes things easier :P |
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| 23:47.27 | des2 | Damn paypal!! |
