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| 02:45.31 | pcfr33k | 2560 sorry |
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| 03:14.19 | ps2chiper_ | where can i buy a cubieboard in shenzhen? |
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| 09:56.54 | hno | mnemoc, wip/unified-aw might work if you update arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram.c with proper parameters from script.bin. |
| 09:59.12 | hno | should really restructure things to add parameters in a header, and a tool to populate that header. |
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| 10:06.06 | mnemoc | i'll add a uboot output to fexc |
| 10:07.36 | mnemoc | static struct or defines? |
| 10:09.19 | mnemoc | i suppose we can make use of the pmu data too |
| 10:14.17 | mnemoc | hno: is wip/unitied-aw real? (note the t) |
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| 10:25.48 | hno | mnemoc, a typo when I pushed the branch to github. |
| 10:26.17 | mnemoc | git push origin :wip/unitied-aw :) |
| 10:27.30 | mnemoc | but about the uboot output of fexc, do you prefer a header of defines of a board.c with structs? |
| 10:27.49 | mnemoc | s/of a/or a/ |
| 11:10.06 | spm_Draget | Is there a dev mailinglist? Or anything byside the page where you initialy sign up if you show interest? |
| 11:11.02 | mnemoc | spm_Draget: yes, in google groups |
| 11:11.22 | mnemoc | cubieboard for support, and linux-sunxi for patch reviews and more techie stuff |
| 11:11.22 | spm_Draget | Do I need a google account for joining these? |
| 11:11.29 | mnemoc | nope |
| 11:11.49 | spm_Draget | *never worked with googlegroups/code before, tries to find* |
| 11:12.32 | mnemoc | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cubieboard |
| 11:13.07 | spm_Draget | That is where I am on already :P Just trying to figure out how to subscribe, but I will manage. |
| 11:13.15 | mnemoc | spm_Draget: mailto:cubieboard+subscribe@googlegroups.com |
| 11:13.26 | mnemoc | at least it's on the header of the mails |
| 11:13.29 | mnemoc | suppose it works |
| 11:15.36 | spm_Draget | o.O (Sorry, you've been banned due to abuse. (abuse@1und1.com) |
| 11:15.40 | spm_Draget | Interesting. |
| 11:19.13 | spm_Draget | Ah okay, my email provider fucked up. nvm =) |
| 11:23.44 | hno | mnemoc, a binary header with dram_para + PMU settings. But details on what is needed for the latter part is still slightly unclear. |
| 11:25.02 | mnemoc | beside [dram_param] the stuff in [target], [card_boot] and [card_boot%d_para] seems somehow relevant for proper uboot configuration |
| 11:26.35 | hno | yes |
| 11:27.02 | hno | but boot1 is also looking for pmu_para, and maybe other parts as well. |
| 11:27.45 | hno | target & card_boot* is encoded in boot1 header. But it then reads script.bin. |
| 11:28.17 | hno | actually dram_para is in the boot1 header as well, but do not seem to be used, only used in boot0. |
| 11:28.36 | hno | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.50 | spm_Draget | I wants me to join the group - but I have no interest in registering with google. Oh well |
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| 14:00.55 | PCBman | hey Mnemoc |
| 14:01.01 | PCBman | you there? |
| 14:01.20 | PCBman | I saw the pics that you up'ed of your cubieboard :) |
| 14:01.29 | PCBman | so..how is it? |
| 14:02.08 | PCBman | has anyone else got his cubieboard as of today? |
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| 14:05.31 | PCBman | has anyone has got his hands on his shipped* cubieboard..? |
| 14:08.13 | des2 | There are a couple of people here that have one now. |
| 14:12.07 | PCBman | hi des2 |
| 14:12.10 | PCBman | thx for replying |
| 14:12.42 | PCBman | can anyone pls do a review or atleast tell me whether xbmc supports HW acceleration or not on this board? :) |
| 14:13.43 | mnemoc | PCBman: it's still work in progress. search for empatzero/xmbca10 on github |
| 14:14.23 | des2 | http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=126995&page=95 |
| 14:14.31 | PCBman | hi mnemoc.. have you tried it on your board? can u please post more pics on the google forums? :D (hungry for some infos*) |
| 14:15.03 | PCBman | also can you do a review of ubuntu/puppy linux performance on the board? maybe use the raspbian on it? :D |
| 14:17.57 | mnemoc | PCBman: nothing interesting to picture yet |
| 14:18.31 | PCBman | how about to do a video review of ubuntu / any ~nux OS on it and posting it on youtube? :P :P |
| 14:18.49 | PCBman | this community is hungry for moreee* :D |
| 14:19.16 | PCBman | just for the sake of "whats its gonna be like.." |
| 14:19.31 | PCBman | that's a request :) |
| 14:19.35 | PCBman | please... |
| 14:20.09 | mnemoc | http://imgur.com/a/vP2T6 |
| 14:29.06 | PCBman | @mnemoc: seen ....waiting for more.. |
| 14:29.10 | PCBman | :) |
| 14:32.02 | hno | mnemoc, any luck with unified-aw? |
| 14:34.48 | mnemoc | hno: haven't tried yet. I'm finishing the code to make `fexc` generate the struct from bin/fex |
| 14:35.10 | hno | ok |
| 14:46.16 | hno | hmm.. obviously have not tried sun4i in that tree. Hang on. |
| 14:57.30 | hno | ok, fixed. Not both sun4i and sun5i compiles. |
| 14:57.50 | mnemoc | need to leave :< |
| 14:57.52 | mnemoc | back in 1h |
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| 16:45.16 | mnemoc | hno: sorry for the delay. just pushed the first rev (only dram_para for now) uboot output for fexc |
| 16:46.48 | mnemoc | I was thinking that until we can load a binary header maybe we should do a collection of board_foo.c selecting the board on compile time |
| 16:48.02 | mnemoc | later we can use the same .c to generate the binary headers |
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| 17:13.00 | mnemoc | hno: did wip/unified-aw work for you? |
| 17:14.24 | mnemoc | i'm not getting anything on the uart :< |
| 17:17.35 | mnemoc | ok, i'm missing tons of dram_para stuff :| |
| 17:20.31 | mnemoc | hno: the cubie's dram_para has several null sections |
| 17:20.37 | mnemoc | hno: so we need "good defaults" |
| 17:27.17 | mnemoc | sucks |
| 17:29.54 | mnemoc | hope we don't need different "good defaults" between sun4i and sun5i :< |
| 17:30.58 | hno | there is no "good defaults". |
| 17:31.36 | mnemoc | [dram_para] |
| 17:31.36 | mnemoc | dram_baseaddr = 0x40000000 |
| 17:31.36 | mnemoc | dram_clk = 408 |
| 17:31.36 | mnemoc | dram_type = 3 |
| 17:31.36 | mnemoc | dram_rank_num = |
| 17:31.38 | mnemoc | dram_chip_density = |
| 17:31.41 | mnemoc | dram_io_width = |
| 17:31.43 | mnemoc | dram_bus_width = |
| 17:31.46 | mnemoc | dram_cas = 6 |
| 17:31.48 | mnemoc | snif snif snif |
| 17:32.04 | mnemoc | initializing those NULLs are 0 doesn't really work :p |
| 17:32.09 | mnemoc | s/are/as/ |
| 17:32.50 | hno | Yes, I see.. |
| 17:33.21 | mnemoc | that's from the script.bin of your cubie |
| 17:34.44 | hno | so we need boot0 from nand., unless livesuit also populates boot1. |
| 17:35.35 | hno | but most are easy by visual inspection. |
| 17:35.43 | hno | rank=1 |
| 17:36.04 | mnemoc | 1 2048 16 32 ? |
| 17:36.14 | mnemoc | "good defaults" :) |
| 17:36.39 | hno | yes. |
| 17:36.46 | mnemoc | but.... maybe the default dram_bus_width for sun5i is 16 |
| 17:37.04 | hno | it is. |
| 17:37.25 | hno | and other stuff differ as well. |
| 17:38.00 | mnemoc | that means two options. fexc needs to know the chip before generating, or uboot set "good defaults" to fields set to 0 |
| 17:39.10 | hno | or dynamic probing at boot time. |
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| 17:39.29 | mnemoc | is that possible without crashing? |
| 17:39.47 | hno | probably. |
| 17:40.54 | hno | and crashing isn't too bad either. we have 4 butes of secure storage in the pmu to build a nice state machine between resets |
| 17:41.15 | hno | and watchdog to kick us out of any crashes |
| 17:41.44 | hno | but first of all we need to get a hang of the pmu. |
| 17:42.04 | hno | or grok it |
| 17:43.05 | mnemoc | hno: should I invent an struct_pmu ? |
| 17:43.12 | mnemoc | err |
| 17:43.16 | mnemoc | struct pmu_para |
| 17:54.23 | mnemoc | meh, it has a GPIO :< |
| 18:04.53 | hno | mnemoc, we need at least the voltages. |
| 18:06.55 | hno | which are in target, not pmu_para. Only he twi_addr and twi_id is in pmu_para. |
| 18:07.15 | hno | the rest is only needed for battery charging I think. |
| 18:07.39 | hno | and safeguards to not destroy batteries. |
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| 18:10.24 | mnemoc | ok |
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| 21:01.45 | hno | mnemoc, http://fpaste.org/1DwR/ |
| 21:02.07 | hno | boot1 header data found in memory at nand u-boot prompt. |
| 21:04.41 | hno | seems populated properly, probably by livesuit. |
| 21:15.32 | ps2chiper_ | whos in charge of selling these things? |
| 21:16.47 | mnemoc | ps2chiper_: it's out of stock |
| 21:18.16 | mnemoc | hno: can you give me the bin dump? to try to reproduce it |
| 21:18.41 | ps2chiper_ | im from shenzhen if i can pick one up locally, but that is only if it has ts pins exposed |
| 21:19.50 | mnemoc | ps2chiper_: send a mail to tom cubie, mr.hipboi gmail com |
| 21:20.16 | ps2chiper_ | is that the same tom cube that works at allwinner? |
| 21:20.26 | mnemoc | yes |
| 21:21.17 | ps2chiper_ | i wonder why huang doesnt know about it |
| 21:22.54 | mnemoc | tom left allwinner ~2 weeks ago |
| 21:23.35 | ps2chiper_ | I was talking to huang about the a10 being used to replace the dreambox |
| 21:23.47 | mnemoc | ps2chiper_: you can see the pins at http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard#Expansion_ports |
| 21:23.47 | ps2chiper_ | the TS ip has enough bandwidth for dvb-s2 |
| 21:24.20 | mnemoc | but not all are mapped to their A10 names yet |
| 21:24.51 | ps2chiper_ | it says it has ts |
| 21:25.10 | ps2chiper_ | dang it, now I have to make an expansion board with dvb-s2 |
| 21:25.19 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:25.37 | ps2chiper_ | does it have two TS |
| 21:25.50 | ps2chiper_ | if it has two TS inputs then the dreambox is dead |
| 21:26.04 | mnemoc | mail tom about it. i know he wasn't able to ship some units because of the holidays |
| 21:26.23 | mnemoc | so you could pick one of those |
| 21:26.52 | ps2chiper_ | i wonder how many he needs to be built |
| 21:27.17 | mnemoc | it's still a prototype |
| 21:27.29 | mnemoc | last batch had 100 pieces |
| 21:28.27 | ps2chiper_ | its difficult to only build 100 pcs, most companies wont bother to make so little |
| 21:29.19 | mnemoc | someone did :) |
| 21:30.42 | ps2chiper_ | I hope he has one saved for me |
| 21:33.28 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:34.57 | ps2chiper_ | how many i2c does it have? |
| 21:37.24 | mnemoc | ps2chiper_: http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/cubieboard_schematic_2012-08-08.pdf |
| 21:38.31 | mnemoc | i don't know off-hand which pins support i2c |
| 21:38.43 | ps2chiper_ | the i2c pins are dedicated |
| 21:40.12 | ps2chiper_ | i see he doesnt have them labeled |
| 21:40.57 | mnemoc | funny "i2c" doesn't match anything in the datasheet.... what other name might they be using? |
| 21:42.10 | mnemoc | twi |
| 21:43.17 | ps2chiper_ | i see, is there twi0? |
| 21:43.34 | ps2chiper_ | there is 3 |
| 21:44.15 | hno | mnemoc, boot to nand u-boot, then use "md.b 0x42400000" to dump memory. |
| 21:44.28 | mnemoc | :o |
| 21:45.38 | hno | I only dumped the header. Not all of boot1 is intact after boot. |
| 21:45.46 | mnemoc | ps2chiper_: I only see one wired to the extension headers |
| 21:46.09 | ps2chiper_ | odd |
| 21:46.59 | mnemoc | twi0 is going to the pmu |
| 21:47.05 | mnemoc | no clue where twi2 ends |
| 21:47.23 | ps2chiper_ | Now I need to ask huang if both ts inputs can simultaneously handle 17.5MB/s bandwidth |
| 21:50.59 | ps2chiper_ | uart1 can also be converted to i2c or spi if need be |
| 22:20.02 | ps2chiper_ | http://linux-sunxi.org/A10-OLinuXino |
| 22:20.10 | ps2chiper_ | this one has more pins exposed |
| 22:26.44 | mnemoc | but doesn't exist yet |
| 22:27.53 | mnemoc | there is an #olimex channel here in freenode, but Tsvetan (who makes the boards) doesn't come too often |
| 22:29.53 | ps2chiper_ | i havent been paying too much attention to the a10 scene. |
| 22:30.43 | mnemoc | these are the only two known A10 board with pins |
| 22:31.14 | ps2chiper_ | now that i can play with TS, i am interested |
| 22:31.32 | mnemoc | both have TS ;-) |
| 22:32.06 | ps2chiper_ | now i just need to know what the state of xbmc is on a10 |
| 22:32.11 | mnemoc | but been much larger the olinuxino has plenty room for exposing more chips |
| 22:32.26 | ps2chiper_ | i read they got x.org hacked to work pretty well on a10 |
| 22:32.36 | mnemoc | https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10/commits/master |
| 22:32.41 | mnemoc | but still work in progress |
| 22:33.05 | ps2chiper_ | did they get hardware video acceleration working |
| 22:33.27 | mnemoc | with mali r2p4 there is partial success |
| 22:33.48 | mnemoc | today tom got new r3p1 libs with x11 support enabled |
| 22:34.05 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400 |
| 22:34.15 | ps2chiper_ | I would love to build a dreambox killer with a10 |
| 22:34.21 | mnemoc | we all do |
| 22:34.24 | ps2chiper_ | but i am struggling with routers |
| 22:34.48 | mnemoc | maybe you can convince allwinner to be more helpful |
| 22:34.51 | ps2chiper_ | so unless someone volunteers to fix up the xbmc and support the tuners, its not worth the investment |
| 22:35.00 | ps2chiper_ | i worked in china for 5 years |
| 22:35.08 | ps2chiper_ | chinese copy, they dont invent |
| 22:35.14 | mnemoc | we don't have armhf libs for cedarx |
| 22:35.27 | ps2chiper_ | that hard float issue |
| 22:35.35 | ps2chiper_ | i know it all too well from amlogic |
| 22:35.43 | mnemoc | armel libs are armv4 |
| 22:35.46 | mnemoc | quite a waste |
| 22:35.54 | ps2chiper_ | trust me, chinese people crazy when it comes to software |
| 22:35.58 | ps2chiper_ | they dont value it |
| 22:36.43 | mnemoc | if you should them it's $good$ to fix cedarx support for linux, they will care |
| 22:36.52 | mnemoc | s/should/show/ |
| 22:37.13 | ps2chiper_ | money means nothing to them |
| 22:37.21 | ps2chiper_ | they only care about copying |
| 22:37.30 | mnemoc | ok |
| 22:37.37 | ps2chiper_ | i can explain why |
| 22:37.50 | ps2chiper_ | you can pay them today for the fix on x11 and hard float |
| 22:38.04 | ps2chiper_ | they will worry about tomorrow and will just take the money and not provide |
| 22:38.26 | ps2chiper_ | effectively stealing, and continue on with android |
| 22:38.49 | mnemoc | have to go to sleep |
| 22:38.59 | ps2chiper_ | tired of my ranting |
| 22:39.02 | ps2chiper_ | good night |
| 22:39.04 | mnemoc | nah :) |
| 22:39.14 | ps2chiper_ | believe me they are nuts |
| 22:39.22 | ps2chiper_ | they code linux from windows xp |
| 22:39.29 | mnemoc | just tired |
| 22:39.42 | ps2chiper_ | huang is a good guy |
| 22:39.47 | ps2chiper_ | i never met tom |
| 22:40.58 | mnemoc | try to convince him to help us fixing in the public tree stuff he has already fixed in the gpl-violating one ;-) |
| 22:41.11 | mnemoc | but need to go to sleep |
| 22:41.13 | mnemoc | good night |
| 22:41.15 | ps2chiper_ | good night |