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| 07:21.18 | moravas | hy |
| 07:22.29 | moravas | can everybody inform me when can I buy a cubieboard? |
| 07:25.37 | mnemoc | moravas: in the web site, add yourself to the [notify me] list |
| 07:26.10 | moravas | yes I had added my to the list |
| 07:26.13 | mnemoc | moravas: the second batch was expected for next week, but it will sell out fast |
| 07:26.29 | moravas | but I don't find any information about "when" |
| 07:26.53 | mnemoc | moravas: there is no "when" yet |
| 07:27.19 | mnemoc | but timeframe last week was "two weeks" |
| 07:27.33 | moravas | just wait for reply from cubieboard? |
| 07:27.49 | mnemoc | you can subscribe the mailing list too |
| 07:28.07 | mnemoc | but basicaly yes. wait, and react fast |
| 07:28.19 | moravas | yes, I am read thos also since one week |
| 07:29.00 | moravas | mnemoc: can I take a other question? |
| 07:29.23 | mnemoc | you can ask.... that doesn't mean I'll answer ;-) |
| 07:29.32 | moravas | :) |
| 07:29.46 | moravas | cubieboard has a SATA connector |
| 07:29.52 | mnemoc | yes |
| 07:30.25 | moravas | and I had readed on the wiki peag it have SATA connector plus 5V power supply |
| 07:30.43 | moravas | but a SATA connector does not suply any power |
| 07:30.48 | moravas | only GND and data |
| 07:30.52 | mnemoc | not in this rev. |
| 07:31.02 | mnemoc | next will come with eSATAp afaik |
| 07:31.24 | moravas | pfff :(:(:( |
| 07:31.32 | moravas | but it will more time :) |
| 07:31.58 | mnemoc | boards are shipped with a two-pin-5V to sata power cable |
| 07:32.28 | mnemoc | but it's obviusly limited to the 2A max input of the board itself |
| 07:33.02 | moravas | it doesn' mean problem: I want use the board with SSD |
| 07:33.12 | moravas | on the SATA port |
| 07:33.25 | mnemoc | :) |
| 07:35.09 | moravas | ooh |
| 07:35.13 | moravas | other question |
| 07:35.38 | moravas | can you give me some information about: |
| 07:35.58 | moravas | shipps qubieboard this product to hungary? |
| 07:36.24 | mnemoc | sure, why not? |
| 07:37.48 | moravas | I had read on the aliexpress.com, it doesn' shipp the simple case to hungary |
| 07:37.58 | mnemoc | btw, there is a similar board been designed in .hu at the moment... but no news about it's current state. http://olimex.wordpress.com/tag/a10/ |
| 07:38.29 | mnemoc | moravas: pick a near by country and add a comment |
| 07:38.48 | mnemoc | moravas: in aliexpress sellers need to specify shipping fees for each country |
| 07:39.01 | mnemoc | moravas: and they tend to miss a few |
| 07:41.46 | moravas | how many is this board? |
| 07:42.26 | mnemoc | the olinuxino? afaik it's aimed at 55E+VAT+shipping |
| 07:46.24 | moravas | thanx |
| 07:49.32 | mnemoc | moravas: they have a nice A13-based (A10's little brother) board already on sale if you want to start getting familiar with the family ;-) |
| 07:49.53 | mnemoc | https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A13/A13-OLinuXino-WIFI-DEV/ |
| 07:50.42 | moravas | I wuold like a board with SATA connector |
| 07:50.56 | mnemoc | :) |
| 07:51.30 | moravas | now have I some other boards: NVIDIA or beagle boards also, but they have only USB port |
| 07:52.24 | moravas | so I must tke a decession: I use SARTA or USB for communicationg betwen storage and the board |
| 07:56.44 | moravas | tke->take |
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| 08:04.54 | des2 | Of course, Sata is much better than USB. |
| 08:07.35 | moravas | Yes, I know |
| 08:08.00 | moravas | USB is comfortable |
| 08:08.33 | moravas | but it doesn' support perfect sollution for storage connection |
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| 09:32.16 | mnemoc | and burns the CPU :< |
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| 10:02.04 | gzamboni | good morning |
| 10:15.01 | gzamboni | anyone around ? |
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| 10:18.33 | moravas | morning :) |
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| 11:31.53 | gzamboni | How can i proceed to buy a cubieboard ? |
| 11:32.17 | asaru | cant yet |
| 11:32.38 | gzamboni | ;P |
| 11:32.46 | gzamboni | soon ? |
| 11:32.56 | asaru | i have no idea |
| 11:33.14 | asaru | i've been idling here for a while now, and from what i gather, some prototype boards were made and sold to people, but they're all gone now |
| 11:33.26 | asaru | nobody seems to know when they will be available in mass quantities |
| 11:33.51 | gzamboni | oh, ok, thank you. |
| 11:34.07 | mnemoc | next batch should be available in 1-2 weeks |
| 11:34.28 | mnemoc | from there to mass quantities there is still a while |
| 11:34.35 | asaru | oh really |
| 11:34.46 | mnemoc | all other similar boards are made by mega corporations |
| 11:34.50 | asaru | are they all spoken for already? |
| 11:34.53 | mnemoc | yes, the r-pi too |
| 11:34.59 | asaru | i have some rpis |
| 11:35.06 | asaru | they are pretty neat but lacking in some respects |
| 11:35.16 | gzamboni | where is it been manufactered ? China ? do they send it to europe/France ? |
| 11:35.51 | asaru | where do i go to 'get in line' |
| 11:35.59 | mnemoc | gzamboni: the cubieboard is made in china by a chinese entrepreneur/open source hacker |
| 11:36.23 | asaru | next batch going to have rtc? |
| 11:36.24 | mnemoc | asaru: there is a [notify me] form in the frontpage of cubieboard.org, but no queue |
| 11:36.37 | mnemoc | asaru: better ask that in the ML |
| 11:36.43 | asaru | i read somewhere that a future revision of the board would have an rtc |
| 11:36.46 | mnemoc | but the A10 (soc) has an rtc |
| 11:37.40 | gzamboni | it seems to be a very nice board with a very nice price |
| 11:37.47 | mnemoc | it is |
| 11:38.06 | asaru | do you have one? |
| 11:38.10 | mnemoc | yes |
| 11:38.13 | asaru | nice |
| 11:38.24 | asaru | what are you using it for? |
| 11:38.29 | gzamboni | i was prototyping a product with AD Blackfin adsp to assembly it by myself but the price went out to 70 euros |
| 11:38.45 | gzamboni | and it runs over uClinux that doesnt support mmu |
| 11:39.06 | mnemoc | asaru: kernel hacking |
| 11:39.28 | asaru | fun |
| 11:39.42 | asaru | are their distros ready for it? |
| 11:39.56 | asaru | or is everyone just hackign stuff together |
| 11:39.58 | gzamboni | does this chinese hacker published the kernel patch for this board ? |
| 11:40.20 | asaru | sp/their/there |
| 11:40.40 | mnemoc | gzamboni: http://linux-sunxi.org |
| 11:41.49 | mnemoc | gzamboni: it's not board specific stuff. the effort is been made for all a10/a13 devices |
| 11:42.23 | gzamboni | nice, i thought it was specific for eath board |
| 11:42.26 | moravas | is it available ubuntu for the cubieboard ? |
| 11:42.52 | gzamboni | much better working with it then with uClinux... dont have to port drivers and stuff |
| 11:43.38 | mnemoc | moravas: indirectly yes. any distro integration done for one sunxi device can be used with any other sunxi (platform) device |
| 11:43.55 | moravas | I would like install a Ubuntu Server into the board |
| 11:43.56 | mnemoc | just search for info about the allwinner a10 soc |
| 11:44.09 | moravas | if it is possibility |
| 11:44.30 | mnemoc | sure |
| 11:44.55 | moravas | A question: |
| 11:45.20 | moravas | have you better offer as ubuntu server on the cubieboard? |
| 11:45.39 | gzamboni | debian |
| 11:45.41 | moravas | I think so: stability and speed |
| 11:46.01 | moravas | hase debian some server edition? |
| 11:46.04 | gzamboni | whats your goal ? |
| 11:46.30 | moravas | web server + repository over vpn server |
| 11:47.03 | moravas | + build my application from those repositoris... |
| 11:48.21 | gzamboni | debian should do it |
| 11:48.32 | gzamboni | use debian without gui. |
| 11:48.53 | gzamboni | debian is already a distro used for servers |
| 11:50.22 | mnemoc | gzamboni: the only not-yet-free parts of linux support for A10 is the GPU (mali400) and VPU (cedarx), so for low-load server it will work just fine.... |
| 11:51.22 | mnemoc | just be sure to disable mali and video decoding when building the kernel to save the memory |
| 11:54.12 | gzamboni | whats the compiler to compile uboot and linux for the A10? |
| 11:54.46 | mnemoc | I use ubuntu/linaro's 4.6 toolchain |
| 11:55.10 | mnemoc | others succesfully use 4.7 too (from arch and gentoo iirc) |
| 11:55.23 | gzamboni | im new to this arch, im googling it :) |
| 11:55.57 | mnemoc | start on the linux-sunxi.org wiki |
| 11:56.12 | mnemoc | cnx-software blog also have quite a bunch of info |
| 11:56.13 | gzamboni | a10 means arm v10 ? |
| 11:56.34 | mnemoc | no, means Allwinner's chip 10 :) |
| 11:56.38 | mnemoc | it's a cortex-a8 |
| 11:56.55 | mnemoc | so armv7 |
| 11:58.34 | gzamboni | allwinner is the company A10 is the component model and its cortexA8 |
| 11:58.37 | gzamboni | right ? |
| 11:59.03 | mnemoc | yes |
| 12:01.05 | gzamboni | damn, with all the resources this board has it can run xbmc in HD |
| 12:01.50 | gzamboni | 7 dollars for the Allwinner A10. Inbatable price for all its resources |
| 12:02.13 | mnemoc | the VPU has no trouble decoding 1080p at all. unfortunatelly the linux support is still a bit lacky in that area |
| 12:03.33 | mnemoc | https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10/commits/master |
| 12:03.34 | gzamboni | where are you into your kernel hacking ? |
| 12:04.13 | mnemoc | what do you mean? |
| 12:04.50 | gzamboni | are you into some specific area like graphics ? |
| 12:05.17 | moravas | a other question?: |
| 12:05.18 | moravas | contains the shipped cubieboard package power cable betwen board and SATA power connector? |
| 12:05.45 | moravas | or I must buy from other distributor |
| 12:06.18 | mnemoc | nope, "general overview" (as I host the repo) and it's core. there are others (in #arm-netbook) more involved in the graphics part |
| 12:06.31 | mnemoc | moravas: it comes with one |
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| 12:08.34 | gzamboni | i should buy one cubieboard for testing and if it works fine i should buy 100 or more. |
| 12:09.01 | gzamboni | Does anyone knows its temperature range ? |
| 12:09.38 | mnemoc | gzamboni: ask on the ML |
| 12:11.14 | gzamboni | k |
| 12:20.16 | moravas | mnemoc: If I had good understand, you have one cubieboard |
| 12:20.52 | moravas | I wuild like question: when are you subscribed into the list? |
| 12:23.13 | lsoem | he got the board long before there was a list. |
| 12:24.59 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:25.15 | lsoem | that "notify me" you're seeing, first it was "buy me", then "coming soon". |
| 12:26.02 | noname_ | how many boards are there in the new batch? |
| 12:26.15 | mnemoc | no info about it |
| 12:26.19 | noname_ | I see |
| 12:26.22 | mnemoc | first had 100 units |
| 12:26.34 | noname_ | that few huh |
| 12:26.40 | noname_ | hope it's more in this one |
| 12:27.26 | mnemoc | tom cubie is not TI or broadcom |
| 12:27.37 | moravas | has any piece quota on the ordering? |
| 12:27.40 | mnemoc | so production budge is limited |
| 12:27.48 | mnemoc | budget* |
| 12:27.54 | moravas | one person max 10 pieses or other |
| 12:28.20 | noname_ | has anyone tried the limadriver for the GPU? |
| 12:28.40 | noname_ | it'd be cool with a truly open system |
| 12:29.12 | mnemoc | you can perfectly use the system without proprietary libraries |
| 12:29.39 | mnemoc | you only miss 3d and video decoding hardware acceleration |
| 12:29.46 | mnemoc | for 2d hw acceleration we have sources |
| 12:30.05 | mnemoc | so eventually there will be an smooth exa driver for exa |
| 12:30.11 | mnemoc | err, for xorg |
| 12:30.53 | lsoem | does the video encoding work fine? |
| 12:31.16 | mnemoc | i don't know anyone who had tried it |
| 12:31.28 | mnemoc | but the cedarx libs include support for both, at least in theory |
| 12:31.54 | noname_ | but the limadriver has 3d too, correct? |
| 12:33.16 | moravas | can I use this Mali400 GPU for computation too or just only for "video output" |
| 12:33.17 | mnemoc | the lima drivers is a userspace GL driver for mali, yes |
| 12:33.29 | moravas | so it is GPU only or GPGPU |
| 12:33.31 | mnemoc | depends on how far lima gets |
| 12:34.06 | mnemoc | but it's a 3D engine, not video, not display |
| 12:34.34 | lsoem | the new Midgrad arch GPUs going to support OpenCL, good times.. |
| 12:35.02 | lsoem | GPUs _are_ going |
| 12:35.58 | lsoem | *Midgard, dammit one-hand typing. |
| 12:39.19 | noname_ | mnemoc: I see |
| 12:41.59 | moravas | sorry |
| 12:42.09 | moravas | I don't understand |
| 12:42.26 | moravas | A10 has a GPU or a GPGPU chipset |
| 12:42.28 | moravas | ? |
| 12:44.24 | lsoem | AFAIK, GPU only |
| 12:45.51 | moravas | ok :( |
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| 12:48.55 | uNMd | anything new on shipment ? |
| 12:49.27 | uNMd | still no new reply on how things go on on aliexpress |
| 12:53.18 | gzamboni | aliexpress is the only place to buy it ? |
| 13:09.22 | mnemoc | gzamboni: yes |
| 13:09.48 | mnemoc | gzamboni: they have a shop in taobao too, but without stock they can't ship either |
| 13:10.13 | mnemoc | uNMd: send tom a message over aliexpress asking |
| 13:10.52 | mnemoc | uNMd: but be aware that over there "end of the week" include sunday evening |
| 13:27.32 | uNMd | he alrdy wrote at the end of the week |
| 13:27.38 | uNMd | still no shipping |
| 13:28.23 | gzamboni | anyone have already tried the olimex A13-OLinuXino-WIFI-DEV ? |
| 13:29.21 | mnemoc | many people, but #olimex is a better place for that |
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| 17:52.24 | uNMd | anything new about shipment ? |
| 17:52.29 | uNMd | :] |
| 18:00.50 | mnemoc | uNMd: you should really get that anxiety problem treated |
| 18:01.03 | uNMd | :D |
| 18:01.34 | lsoem | "shipment required", eh? |
| 18:01.50 | uNMd | yap |
| 18:02.32 | mnemoc | and what does the count down above say? |
| 18:02.50 | uNMd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.10 | mnemoc | aliexpress' count down |
| 18:03.15 | mnemoc | not tom's message |
| 18:03.33 | uNMd | 24 days |
| 18:04.58 | uNMd | you tried alrdy booting linux on your cubie ? |
| 18:08.53 | mnemoc | nope. but very busy with $work$ anyway |
| 18:09.31 | uNMd | oO how you could get it and didnt try to run linux on it |
| 18:09.32 | uNMd | __ |
| 18:11.43 | lsoem | ... he has bills to pay? |
| 18:12.00 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 18:38.43 | debianin | i read on website cubieboard has 4Gbyte of flash. it is correct? it is usable a "solid hard disk" sithout necessity of memory microSD? |
| 18:40.09 | mnemoc | debianin: yes |
| 18:40.17 | debianin | GREAT!!!!! |
| 18:40.43 | mnemoc | there will be a model without internal nand and with a second uSD slot instead. but not yet |
| 18:40.52 | debianin | i *need* cubieboard! NOW!!!! |
| 18:41.07 | debianin | too bad to wit longer |
| 18:41.15 | debianin | to wait longer |
| 18:41.16 | mnemoc | register in the [notify me] list on the website |
| 18:41.35 | debianin | when new set of board will be avaiable? |
| 18:42.09 | debianin | set = quantity of producton. |
| 18:43.07 | debianin | can i install OS on microSD without write anithing on flash? |
| 18:44.20 | debianin | are avaiable Analog inputs? if yes, how much? how many resolution bits? |
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| 18:52.19 | user_ | sorry mnemoc i lost connection can you repeat? |
| 18:55.02 | user_ | im debianin |
| 19:00.02 | mnemoc | i didn't say anything |
| 19:00.35 | mnemoc | if your uSD is bootable, it will take priority over tha nand |
| 19:00.53 | mnemoc | next batch is supposed to come in 1-2 weeks |
| 19:01.06 | mnemoc | i don't know about analog inputs |
| 19:03.26 | user_ | mnemoc, thanks. about analog input, i read it here http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard so i came in IRC to ask details. |
| 19:05.23 | mnemoc | user_: check the A10's datasheet for the options of each of those pins |
| 19:05.40 | mnemoc | user_: if you can help completing http://linux-sunxi.org/A10/PIO, much better |
| 19:07.01 | user_ | ok i refere to datascheet. im so sorry that web pages of cubieboard are so poor of info |
| 19:08.13 | mnemoc | user_: they are just starting. give them time |
| 19:08.22 | mnemoc | also, most of the info is generic to all A10 devices |
| 19:08.37 | mnemoc | s/generic/common/ |
| 19:08.52 | user_ | ok, i get the meaning |
| 19:10.38 | user_ | cubieboar is so... strong! |
| 19:11.20 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 19:42.50 | uNMd | anyone there with a cubie ? |
| 19:43.03 | mnemoc | come on |
| 19:43.11 | uNMd | i know you have one :D |
| 19:43.19 | uNMd | but you didnt tried linux |
| 19:43.20 | uNMd | :D |
| 19:43.38 | uNMd | how come chatting here and telling you have no time |
| 19:43.44 | uNMd | your on work now ? |
| 19:46.07 | mnemoc | irc is a 100x12 terminal in a corner of my left monitor tiled with other more important terminals |
| 19:47.13 | lsoem | You liar! overly-attached-developer... |
| 19:47.50 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:50.16 | hno | uNMd, I have one, but have not had time to play with it much yet (got it yesterday) |
| 19:50.39 | uNMd | how come ? |
| 19:50.44 | uNMd | does linux boot ? |
| 19:50.46 | hno | how come what? |
| 19:50.56 | uNMd | that you havent time |
| 19:51.12 | hno | Well, I got it yesterday evening, and have been working all day today. |
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| 19:53.02 | hno | can't do wonders in 25 hours. |
| 19:54.51 | hno | Or actually, got it day day before yesterday. But yesterday is kind of lost. |
| 20:08.11 | hno | not sure what you ask. It came with a small Android installed, and you can easily run other stuff. |
| 20:08.38 | hno | but I have not added MMC u-boot support for it yet. |
| 20:09.45 | mnemoc | hno: he is just anxious and comes each 4h asking if we know when will they ship and how's hacking going :) |
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| 20:10.49 | hno | Hm. He ships with PB JTAG enabled, but those pins are not routed anywhere. |
| 20:12.28 | hno | smc? What is that? |
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| 20:32.37 | uNMd | < needs to be up 2 date :D |
| 20:33.44 | mnemoc | ;-) |
| 20:46.18 | uNMd | so how things going |
| 20:46.37 | uNMd | did we can boot from sata ? :] |
| 20:46.46 | uNMd | notice the "we" |
| 20:47.53 | uNMd | you should rename it to wecube like iphone or nintendo wii :D |
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| 20:48.15 | uNMd | hello there |
| 20:59.14 | mnemoc | uNMd: nand or mmc, then the rootfs can be on sata |
| 21:00.03 | uNMd | i mean booting from nand on sata |
| 21:00.17 | uNMd | didnt want to use mmc |
| 21:01.31 | uNMd | you heard the raspberry pi overcloks to 1ghz |
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| 21:08.36 | des2 | So it's a 450 MHz Pentium II not a 300. |
| 21:09.24 | mnemoc | :D |
| 21:10.11 | alcides | LOL |
| 21:10.13 | alcides | really? |
| 21:10.21 | alcides | rpi is comparated to a pII? |
| 21:10.42 | alcides | *compared |
| 21:21.58 | qermit | wow, pII with hdmi :) |
| 21:25.38 | des2 | yes |
| 21:26.05 | des2 | The 300 PII is from their website. |
| 21:27.11 | alcides | i had a pII 350 |
| 21:27.11 | alcides | XD |
| 21:27.23 | des2 | http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs |
| 21:27.27 | alcides | like 15 years ago |
| 21:27.38 | des2 | That is, graphics capabilities are roughly equivalent to Xbox 1 level of performance. Overall real world performance is something like a 300MHz Pentium 2, only with much, much swankier graphics. |
| 21:28.17 | alcides | lol |
| 21:28.24 | alcides | what about a10? |
| 21:28.38 | alcides | pII 500 at least? |
| 21:28.46 | des2 | The A10 is a cortex A8 |
| 21:29.17 | qermit | then A17 must be Cortex A15 |
| 21:29.37 | alcides | qermit what? |
| 21:29.51 | qermit | A10 - 2 = A8 |
| 21:29.55 | qermit | nvm |
| 21:29.55 | alcides | lol |
| 21:30.05 | mnemoc | the allwinner A13 is cortex a8 too |
| 21:30.11 | alcides | yes |
| 21:30.34 | mnemoc | so the -2 rule doesn't apply |
| 21:31.05 | mnemoc | http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/196089.htm <--- about the next soc from allwinner (sun6i) |
| 21:31.21 | mnemoc | G does a pretty decent job translating it |
| 21:31.26 | alcides | i don't read chinise |
| 21:31.34 | mnemoc | neither do I |
| 21:31.42 | alcides | chinese is hard |
| 21:31.47 | qermit | 4core? |
| 21:32.17 | lsoem | mnemoc: we must find the mathematical series then!!! |
| 21:32.44 | alcides | floor of something... or cine |
| 21:32.45 | alcides | try it |
| 21:32.52 | uNMd | i heard of 120fps at quake 3 |
| 21:33.29 | alcides | where? |
| 21:33.45 | alcides | 120fps is pretty good |
| 21:34.05 | des2 | yes quad core seems next from allwinner. |
| 21:34.33 | lsoem | but at what cost? |
| 21:35.12 | alcides | yes |
| 21:35.35 | lsoem | $yes USD? |
| 21:35.42 | alcides | A10 is 7 usd and doesn't need any cooler... |
| 21:36.30 | lsoem | I think the price went up |
| 21:37.31 | alcides | hmmm |
| 21:37.37 | alcides | its bad |
| 21:38.17 | lsoem | http://nwlinux.com/allwinner-a10-cheaper-raspberry-pi/ |
| 21:38.32 | lsoem | >>UPDATE: now $15 (May 2012) |
| 21:38.37 | alcides | http://romanrm.ru/en/a10/nbench |
| 21:38.51 | alcides | wish to know the score at 1.5ghz |
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