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| 03:16.24 | `v | where do I buy one? |
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| 08:39.58 | root_____ | Is the 1gb model ready for shipping (i dont care about the packaging etc. I want the board and the case) |
| 08:53.16 | mnemoc | root_____: send a message on aliexpress |
| 08:53.52 | mnemoc | root_____: the other stoper has been the sata power cable. mention your need (or not need) for that one there too |
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| 10:36.30 | root_____ | mnemoc: okay |
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| 13:06.42 | msb | Has the price been announced yet? |
| 13:18.41 | megal0maniac | $50 |
| 13:18.51 | megal0maniac | On the main website? |
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| 13:28.51 | mnemoc | and shipping to most countries is $8-$10 |
| 13:30.53 | msb | Where on the website is the price, please? |
| 13:32.30 | des2 | If it was $35 it might outsell the Raspberry Pi. |
| 13:38.04 | mnemoc | msb: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/cubieboard-prototype-512M-2012-8-8-revision/511685_633305897.html |
| 13:38.57 | mnemoc | msb: but it's sold out. next batch in two weeks |
| 13:39.04 | msb | At these prices, pretty soon everyone in the world will have Net access. That will make a big difference in politics. Countries like the US won't be able to invade others and murder millions of people without everyone knowing the details. |
| 13:39.21 | msb | mnemoc: Thanks! |
| 13:40.28 | mnemoc | the cubieboard and far more powerful, capable (and open) then broadcom's r-pi |
| 13:40.41 | mnemoc | than* |
| 13:41.12 | des2 | I agree, but it's also $15 more expensive. |
| 13:41.52 | mnemoc | imo the r-pi is expensive while the cubieboard is cheap |
| 13:43.33 | mnemoc | like a $2k bike is more expensive than a $10k car |
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| 13:46.38 | msb | Is there a way to get rid of that yellow pop-up ad for hair (ick!) on that aliexpress page? |
| 13:48.12 | mnemoc | msb: it's sold out. you can't buy it until the next batch is ready, in 2 weeks |
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| 13:50.19 | msb | mnemoc: I understand. But it would be nice to see the details obscured by the popup. It should have a little x in the corner that you can click to remove it. |
| 13:51.38 | mnemoc | msb: for details, http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard and http://cubieboard.org |
| 13:51.39 | msb | I guess aliexpress is hoping I will buy "virgin malaysian hair" in place of a computer. |
| 13:54.10 | mnemoc | they know you can't buy a sold out product, so they try to guess what else you may like ;-) |
| 13:54.11 | msb | mnemoc: Thanks, the link to linux-sunxi.org is easy to find from cubieboard.org. |
| 14:00.47 | des2 | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Promotional-price-Rikomagic-mk802-II-Mini-Android-4-0-PC-Smart-Android-TV-Box-A10-Cortex/625991981.html |
| 14:10.15 | mnemoc | des2: to talk about those A10 devices better go to the #arm-netbook |
| 14:10.47 | mnemoc | des2: you'll find tons of people with mk802s |
| 14:11.31 | mnemoc | this channel is an spin-off of that one |
| 14:11.33 | des2 | A10 seems to be taking over the 50-$100 computing market. |
| 14:11.58 | mnemoc | des2: it already did, since a year ago :p |
| 14:12.38 | mnemoc | but the cubieboard is the first real devkit based on it |
| 14:13.10 | mnemoc | that tv dongle from rikomagic is actually the third generation of the product |
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| 14:33.06 | mnemoc | "The supplier has shipped your order." \o/ |
| 14:33.17 | RaYmAn | for what? |
| 14:33.23 | mnemoc | $topic :p |
| 14:33.27 | RaYmAn | ah |
| 14:33.31 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 14:33.31 | mnemoc | feels the envy |
| 14:33.38 | RaYmAn | I was too slow :( |
| 14:34.20 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: as with the olinuxino, your's will come without hw bug |
| 14:34.44 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: I still have the vga bug though |
| 14:34.51 | mnemoc | oh |
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| 14:53.30 | des2 | Have any plans for the prototype board mnemoc ? |
| 14:55.48 | mnemoc | des2: at the moment only kernel development. |
| 14:56.10 | mnemoc | taking the place of my mele |
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| 15:03.25 | msb | As a rough estimate of computing power, can something like a cubieboard play an h264 video of, e.g., 500x1000 pixels, fully expanded on a 1080p screen? |
| 15:04.06 | msb | Using, e.g., mplayer or vlc? |
| 15:04.25 | mnemoc | today, android only |
| 15:04.48 | lsoem | it's not the computing power. |
| 15:05.04 | msb | mnemoc: So it can do it under android but not Linux? |
| 15:05.22 | msb | lsoem: What is it then? |
| 15:05.30 | lsoem | driver porting |
| 15:05.42 | mnemoc | msb: we don't have bindings for the backend of those players yet |
| 15:05.57 | msb | Ah |
| 15:06.37 | mnemoc | https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10 has xmbc support for mpeg and h264 |
| 15:06.57 | lsoem | msb: that's all the fun, hence the "developer board" :) |
| 15:07.05 | mnemoc | it would be awesome if someone does the same for libva or ffmpeg or gstreamer |
| 15:07.34 | mnemoc | lsoem: indeed ;-) |
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| 15:14.04 | msb | So, could xbmc play a video that big on a cubieboard? |
| 15:16.02 | mnemoc | the hardware can. the player, not sure on it's current state. mx player in android does it just fine |
| 15:16.36 | msb | I'm just thinking that that capability would be a big incentive for low-income people around the world to buy an inexpensive system and get on the Net. |
| 15:16.59 | mnemoc | msb: the cedarx video decoder is VERY good |
| 15:17.27 | mnemoc | msb: and as it's a dedicated DSP it doesn't affect the normal operations of the OS |
| 15:29.23 | msb | If someone is going to use such an inexpensive computer, I'd think their screen would more likely be 1000 pixels high than 2000. Also, people may not be doing much else with the computer while watching a movie. So the expense of the cedarx chip may be unnecessary. |
| 15:30.05 | msb | if the ARM chip can decode the movie itself. |
| 15:31.21 | RaYmAn | the cedarx chip is part of the SoC |
| 15:31.42 | RaYmAn | I doubt A10 has any interest in releasing custom versions of the SoCs, plus the chip is fairly cheap as it is |
| 15:32.06 | mnemoc | in a cortex a8 like the a10 you can't decode more than 720p by software |
| 15:32.47 | mnemoc | but as RaYmAn mentioned the cedarx vpu is within the same chip |
| 15:37.57 | lsoem | msb: you might want to read the A10 datasheet http://linux-sunxi.org/images/3/33/A10_Datasheet.pdf for further understanding of the capabilities. |
| 15:38.28 | msb | Thanks! Was just reading about it on wikipedia. |
| 15:50.20 | msb | From the datasheet it's unclear whether the A10 decodes 1080p max or 2160. |
| 15:51.13 | msb | RaYmAn: But you're saying cedarx circuitry is already within the A10? |
| 15:51.24 | RaYmAn | msb: it's inside the SoC yes. |
| 15:51.34 | msb | Wowie! |
| 15:51.47 | RaYmAn | I doubt anyone has tried 2160p videos on it, heh |
| 15:52.12 | RaYmAn | they claim it can though - I doubt it can actually output 2160p though, so it's kind of pointless :P |
| 15:52.44 | msb | Well, 1080p is plenty. |
| 15:52.59 | des2 | Usuallythe largest you find is for 1920x1200 |
| 15:53.09 | RaYmAn | just keep in mind - usage of the VPU outside of android is very much work in progress |
| 15:53.09 | des2 | More than that requires dual link |
| 15:53.17 | RaYmAn | dual link hdmi? |
| 15:53.18 | RaYmAn | :P |
| 15:53.37 | des2 | Dual link DVI, dual link DVI is only a rumour |
| 15:53.48 | des2 | Dual link DVI, dual link HDMI is only a rumour |
| 15:53.52 | des2 | (correction) |
| 15:54.08 | RaYmAn | HDMI 1.4 does support 2160p output |
| 15:54.13 | msb | Since keyboards are less than $10, all that's needed is a 19" display for $50 and the world will light up! |
| 15:55.14 | msb | That's big enough to originate content and not just "consume" it. |
| 15:56.41 | msb | Although I love my 27", but it cost $330. |
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| 15:58.02 | lsoem | msb: pff with cubieboard loaded with K5ECG and OpenCV, SkyNet wil rise!! |
| 15:58.06 | msb | KDE3 with fully functional multiple virtual-desktops is very good for reducing crowding on the screen. |
| 15:59.06 | msb | I will have to look those up, but perhaps it would be better to call it EarthNet. 8^) |
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| 16:03.01 | msb | lsoem: OK, I found OpenCV, but what is K5ECG other than somebody's ham radio callsign? |
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| 16:04.30 | lsoem | camera module |
| 16:05.00 | lsoem | make your very own spy drone |
| 16:05.11 | lsoem | sub $100 |
| 16:05.29 | des2 | http://www.armdevs.com/store/Kit-Exynos4412.html |
| 16:05.35 | des2 | scroll down a bit |
| 16:05.45 | msb | Cops are already using them. I think the sales of shotguns are going to rise. |
| 16:06.14 | des2 | Samsung 5Mpixel K5ECG MIPI CSI sensor |
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| 16:22.45 | hno | HDMI 1.3 supports 2160p@30Hz with sufficient good and not too long cables. |
| 16:24.23 | mnemoc | iirc the hdmi controller in the a10 isn't capable of 2160p, so they would be scaled down anyway |
| 16:26.21 | hno | but suspect the Allwinner 2160 is actually 3D resolution, which it does support. |
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| 16:34.00 | hno | normally 2160p refers to 3840 × 2160p (Quad HD). |
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| 18:17.45 | Anton_ | so, did anyone tried to use cubieboard as think client? |
| 18:18.09 | mnemoc | Anton_: no one has a cubieboard yet |
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| 18:22.07 | Anton_ | mnemoc: hm, they say it's sold out |
| 18:22.18 | Anton_ | i assumed someone already had it :) |
| 18:22.38 | Anton_ | but anyway, looks like good thin client platfrom |
| 18:22.52 | mnemoc | Anton_: nope, they still need to ship and then arrive :) |
| 18:23.58 | mnemoc | Anton_: it's pretty powerful on it's own.... but you can still share the rootfs over network |
| 18:24.42 | mnemoc | as thinclient all display rendering would be CPU based, and that will hurt |
| 18:25.02 | lsoem | does it support pxe? |
| 18:25.20 | mnemoc | running natively you will (eventually) be able to use the 3D hw accelerator (mali) and the video decoder |
| 18:25.31 | mnemoc | lsoem: PXE is intel/x86 specific |
| 18:25.44 | Anton_ | mnemoc: why it would be CPU based? |
| 18:25.55 | Anton_ | and anyway, you just said it's pretty powerfull |
| 18:26.03 | Anton_ | so it should be able to handle that |
| 18:27.04 | Anton_ | i think about running some powerfull 2-processor server with free ESXi and using something like cubieboard to load android and then use VMware view |
| 18:27.44 | Anton_ | with such a neglectable price this should be pretty effective money-wise |
| 18:27.51 | Anton_ | for usual office work |
| 18:28.01 | Anton_ | 10-15 people per server |
| 18:51.37 | lsoem | mnemoc: pxe-equivalent feature, UBoot supposedly honours PXE. |
| 18:52.04 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:05.00 | zowtar | pxe would be awesome... |
| 19:09.10 | mnemoc | hno is the u-boot-sunxi maintainer |
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| 19:35.20 | rz2k | Anton_: dont know about vmware-* stuff, but people use remote X servers with A10 devices. |
| 19:36.00 | rz2k | and with Mali-400 DRI2 now working, you can even use DPMS |
| 19:36.02 | mnemoc | i think he wants to run MS software |
| 19:37.52 | hno | don't have a sunxi ethernet driver in uboot yet. |
| 19:38.39 | mnemoc | an small linux+kexec should do the job easier... |
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| 20:58.57 | hno | mnemoc, probably. |
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