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| 02:49.42 | macsforme | ooohhhh, Blizzard... cool |
| 02:50.00 | macsforme | please remind them to #DeleteBrig |
| 02:51.02 | JeffM[m] | Heh, I wonât be working on that game |
| 02:51.40 | macsforme | aww |
| 02:52.05 | macsforme | are you able to share what you'll be working on? or at least what kind of department? |
| 02:52.25 | JeffM[m] | Internal stuff |
| 02:53.19 | JeffM[m] | For all games |
| 02:54.59 | macsforme | internal as in their engine? |
| 02:55.39 | JeffM[m] | Yeah |
| 02:55.52 | macsforme | awesome |
| 02:56.00 | JeffM[m] | Internal tools |
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| 05:52.48 | macsforme | blast007: I could go for a switch over to the game controller API... I suppose that would exclude actual joystick users (if there are any), but I can see people actually using controllers, especially if we end up supporting mobile |
| 05:55.11 | macsforme | I'm not sure how far to go in 2.4, though... I might already be pushing it by trying to emulate button presses for the axes |
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| 12:42.58 | blast007 | yeah, I suppose the game controller API is a rather large change that deserves the longer testing cycle of a major release |
| 12:43.31 | blast007 | do we still want to keep non-SDL2 platform code for 2.4.24? |
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| 15:57.33 | JeffM[m] | real joysticks seem relegated to driving and flight/space sims these days |
| 15:58.31 | JeffM[m] | since BZ is a simplified FPS control wise, controllers make a lot of sense for it. |
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| 16:03.21 | JeffM[m] | Put forward/Backward on left stick vertical, and turning on right stick horizontal, shoot on right trigger, and jump on A, and it'll be perfectly natural for more console players |
| 16:03.41 | JeffM[m] | Dpad for menus |
| 16:04.13 | JeffM[m] | well Y to bring up menu, dpad to navigate menu, A to accept B to cancel. |
| 16:04.43 | JeffM[m] | then do like X or B, or LB/RB to drop a flag, dpad in game to select hunt target, that'd be pretty natural for people |
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| 16:13.50 | blast007 | the game controller API is based around the Xbox controllers, and has a bunch of mappings for other gamepads |
| 16:17.09 | blast007 | lets you easily have some sane defaults |
| 16:17.51 | blast007 | SDL2's API is also (at least partially) implmeneted by GLFW |
| 16:18.08 | blast007 | implemented* |
| 16:34.29 | macsforme | can't do jump on A if the right stick is for turning... you won't be able to do spinning jumps |
| 16:36.47 | macsforme | probably right trigger to fire, right bumper to identify/lock on, and put jumping and flag dropping on the left trigger/bumper one way or the other |
| 16:37.46 | macsforme | or else put all the driving on one stick |
| 16:39.17 | macsforme | this is what I did for the GCW Zero (which doesn't have bumpers): http://fairserve.net/~josh/bzflag/embedded/gcw0%20bindings.png |
| 16:45.40 | macsforme | I'm good with getting rid of non-SDL platform code in 2.4... that's at least a straightforward process with a mostly predictable outcome |
| 16:51.10 | JeffM[m] | Jump as A is going to be a big muscle memory for people but I see your point. You may want to have some different presets |
| 16:51.51 | JeffM[m] | Spin jump is more of an advanced technique, jump on A may be better for beginners. |
| 16:59.03 | macsforme | multiple presets is probably a good idea... same thing for mouse/keyboard bindings, for that matter |
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