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00:28.29The_NoahI know I have asked this question in the past, but I can't remember what the answer is. I am trying to compile BZFlag 2.5 on Windows 10 using Microsoft Visual Studio 2017. However, I get a bunch of errors saying "Cannot open include file 'config.h': No suck file or directory" any ideas?
00:36.18JeffM<PROTECTED>
00:36.32The_Noahbzflag
00:38.51JeffMAnd you are building from the git master branch?
00:39.05The_NoahYes.
00:39.14JeffMHas that directory ever been built on Linux?
00:39.20The_NoahNo.
00:39.28JeffMThat’s odd
00:39.38blast007is this a clean clone?
00:39.47blast007(from our repo, not a fork)
00:40.13The_NoahNo, from a fork. Let me get it from the repo
00:40.37JeffMThere should be a config.h in the msvc dir
00:42.06The_NoahThere isn't.
00:42.23The_NoahI'm grapping the original repo.
00:43.01blast007MSVC/build/config.h
00:43.46The_NoahOh, it's there.
00:43.59The_NoahThe one from the original repo is compiling!
00:44.19The_NoahWhat software is used to compile the released version for Windows?
00:45.00The_NoahOops, forgot to change to master :D
00:46.15JeffMIt’s in msvc/build
00:46.35JeffMVisual studio is used for windows builds
00:46.47The_Noah2017?
00:46.58JeffMIt will be for 2.6
00:47.03The_NoahOkay.
00:47.16JeffM2.4 targets 2015
00:47.28The_NoahWill this be in a release? https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19961
00:47.56JeffM<PROTECTED>
00:48.01The_NoahYay!
00:48.04blast007I think 2.4 targets 2017 too
00:48.17JeffMThere is a skin selector under team
00:48.25The_NoahJeffM will it be in the next release of 2.4?
00:48.30JeffMYeah for the last relapse of 2.4
00:48.43JeffMThe_Noah: oh god no
00:48.44The_NoahIt's really awesome to see!
00:48.52The_Noah:D
00:48.55JeffMThere are no more planned 2.4 releases
00:49.04JeffMIt is incompatible with 2.4
00:49.12The_NoahOh, okay.
00:49.13JeffMIt requires network changes
00:49.22JeffM2.4 is done
00:49.33The_NoahSo the next release will be 2.6?
00:49.53blast007yes
00:50.03JeffMYes unless there is major security bug in 2,4
00:50.11The_NoahOkay.
00:50.18The_NoahAny idea when it might be released?
00:50.25blast007no
00:50.29JeffM9 to 12 months
00:50.37JeffMMaybe more maybe less
00:57.22The_NoahI get the fallowing errors when compiling (the release build of) 2.5. https://pasteboard.co/HwavmLC.png
01:10.26The_NoahAny idea what's wrong?
01:55.01JeffMI will look after dinner
02:09.54The_NoahOkay, thanks!
02:24.37JeffMso The_Noah you have no mods in place or anything? it's clean code?
02:26.09JeffMit's possible that someone broke it
02:26.32JeffMnix isn't as strict as needing to include algorightms as VC is
02:33.02JeffMworks for me, with a clean checkout of master branch
02:33.38JeffMmy guess is you have some of your hud mods in there, and you didn't #include <algorithm> or <limts>
02:37.35JeffMor you did't install one or more C++ components when you installed 2017, C++ is not enabled by default
02:38.56The_NoahIt is a clean source, no mods.
02:39.30JeffMwhat target did you pick?
02:39.35JeffMdebug 32 bit?
02:39.35The_Noahmaster
02:39.42JeffMnot branch, target in visual studio
02:39.47The_NoahRelease 32-bit.
02:40.38JeffMok, let me try release
02:41.33The_NoahWhat's the difference between Debug and Release?
02:41.46JeffMdebug is debuggable in the debugger
02:41.50JeffMit has debug info
02:41.54JeffMrelease does not
02:41.56The_NoahOkay.
02:43.08JeffMyou didn't muck with the config.h did you?
02:43.15The_NoahNo.
02:43.21The_NoahI didn't touch anything.
02:44.18The_NoahIs your code the same as in the screenshot?
02:44.48JeffMyeah
02:44.56JeffMyou have C++ installed?
02:44.59The_NoahYes.
02:44.59JeffMhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FHdZHWv4/image.png
02:45.06JeffMthat version?
02:45.29The_NoahOne moment...
02:46.04The_NoahVisual Studio Installer has to update....
02:46.19The_NoahI have compiled 2.5 on this machine and the same Visual Studio before.
02:46.56JeffMit's possible release needs help, I'm still building
02:47.16The_NoahI tried also doing a Debug build, that had the same error.
02:48.32JeffMwell there are issues in release for sure, at least on the server
02:48.51The_NoahMy version of VS and C++ are slightly older, I'm going to update them and see if that fixes it.
02:51.25JeffMthe cxx file technically should have #include <functional> in it.
02:52.22The_Noah?
02:52.40JeffMstd::greater is defined in functinal
02:52.50JeffMas part of the STL standard
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02:56.51BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://git.io/fN0Ai
02:56.51BZnotify13bzflag/06master 14dc4bdc4 15Jeffrey Myers: array size must go outside of unused macro for release builds to work
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02:59.08JeffMmisses incredibuild so much.....
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03:00.07BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://git.io/fN0AQ
03:00.07BZnotify13bzflag/06master 148231f3a 15Jeffrey Myers: include functional for std::greater
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03:03.53The_NoahShould that fix my problem?
03:04.25JeffMpossibly
03:04.34JeffMsince I can't duplicate your problem I can't be sure
03:04.50JeffMbut that is the technical solution to the reported error.
03:05.05JeffMdo you have 2015 installed as well?
03:05.07The_NoahWell, there is no option to cancel updating so if it works for me we won't know if it's because of updating or your fix.
03:05.29JeffMsure you can, don't update your source code untill after you try to build ;)
03:05.58The_NoahToo late :P
03:06.04JeffMwell that was stupid
03:06.08The_NoahI guess I could just comment out the line and try compiling.
03:06.19The_NoahIsn't there a way to go back?
03:06.33JeffMsure, get at at a different commit number
03:06.50JeffMdo you have 2015 installed as well?
03:06.54The_NoahAlright, I've done it. VS is still updating.
03:07.11The_NoahBut for some reason Git thinks I have made a change to the source!!
03:09.12The_NoahOh, never mind.
03:15.51The_NoahI tried, but according to Git I'm where I was before you made the commits, but according to the files I'm not.
03:17.01JeffMwhatever, if it works it works
03:17.21JeffMthe change I made is technically correct so I'm fine with it staying in there.
03:18.32The_NoahNever mind, I was able to revert.
03:19.04JeffMwere you using a version older than 15.6.x ?
03:19.22The_NoahDiscord really needs to tell Microsoft how to update products quickly.
03:19.24The_NoahYes.
03:19.29The_Noah15.5.x
03:19.43JeffMthere were some signifigant changes in 15.6
03:19.47JeffMso that may be it
03:19.53The_NoahOkay.
03:20.06JeffMdiscord runs interpreted code
03:20.17JeffMdiferent beast alltogheter
03:20.33JeffMthe discord "app" is really a very fancy web browser
03:20.55The_NoahYa, I know that last part.
03:20.58JeffMand it's a lot smaller than visual studio, and doesn't integrate into the core OS at a system level :)
03:32.20The_NoahFinally done installing!
03:41.51The_NoahWhen I compile, I get the fallowing error: cannot open input file 'glew32s.lib' - any ideas?
03:42.08The_NoahI also got the same error when trying to compile for 2.4.
03:42.08JeffMyeah you need to build the master branch of the dependencies
03:43.05JeffMthe zip version doesn't have all the stuff for master
03:43.06The_NoahI have, but that was a while ago. I'll grab the latest version and do it again.
03:43.11JeffMyeah
03:43.16JeffMit needs updates
03:45.58The_NoahWell, it's pretty late for me here. Goodnight.
04:01.19The_NoahEverything compiled. However, when I launch the EXE, I get 2 dialog boxes with theses errors: "SDL2.dll and zlibd1.dll was not found" even though they are in the same folder.
04:03.59The_NoahWell, I really must be going. I will see whatever you send in the morning.
04:04.28JeffMyeah, you can't run from the build dir
04:04.52JeffMit copies to the bin_Release_Win32 dir
04:04.55JeffMrun from that dir
04:04.58JeffMit has all the DLLs
04:05.15JeffMor bin_debug if you build debug
04:08.03JeffMif you are using the debugger, you can set the debug paths in the project properties, https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/axpjFKtZ/image.png
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14:35.47JeffMSo blast007, I guess the next question is how am y of those 400 a day show up again on other days.
14:36.14JeffMHow many repeat players are there?
14:36.33blast007that'd take a bit more than a grep/sed to figure out :)
14:52.01JeffMYeah
14:52.24JeffMI can write an app to do it if you send me some logs
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15:25.50JeffMbecause if you have 380 a day that only ever play that day and 20 that are regulars, then the problem with bzflag is not getting new players, it's keeping them.
15:26.16JeffM400 a day woudl mean an average of 16 people per hour, if the average play time is an hour.
15:26.30JeffMand that sort of meshes with the data I've seen for average server player counts.
15:26.35The_NoahJeffM I am running it from bin_Debug_Win32.
15:26.56JeffMThe_Noah: from within visual studio or just double clicking?
15:27.03The_NoahDouble-clicking.
15:27.10JeffMis the DLL in that folder?
15:27.16The_NoahYes.
15:27.27JeffMthen it makes no sense why it would say it could not find it.
15:29.58JeffMthe contents after a build should look similar to this, https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NjFwzK3L/image.png
15:31.58The_NoahI only built bzflag and not fullbuild, and this is what mine looks like. https://pasteboard.co/HwgewNp.png
15:32.31JeffMglew should be there
15:33.05The_NoahYa..
15:33.16JeffMthrow it in there and see if that helps
15:33.49JeffMit'll be in the output-debug-x86\bin that was built from the dependencies
15:33.57The_NoahI did a Release build (and it has the same files) and it runs fine.
15:34.17JeffMI don't know what to tell you then
15:34.39JeffMyou did build the dependencies before you updated visual stuido
15:34.46JeffMso you've got mixed versions in there
15:35.31The_NoahI updated VS, built the deps, then restarted VS.
15:35.46JeffMwhy did you restart vs?
15:35.52The_NoahYes.
15:35.57blast007why
15:36.07JeffMread all the words
15:36.25JeffMdid you copy the output dirs to wherever your environment variable was pointing?
15:36.39The_NoahYes.
15:36.45JeffMthen I dunno
15:36.47blast007then why is there no glew?
15:36.51JeffMyou've got something odd
15:36.54The_NoahI don't know.
15:36.56The_NoahBut it runs.
15:37.00JeffMyou'll have to figure it out
15:37.04blast007no, it doesn't run as debug
15:37.04JeffMok
15:37.11blast007it can't run without the glew DLL
15:37.19The_NoahWell, it is.
15:37.25JeffMyou are not the best at accuracy when reporting, so something you are saying is not true.
15:37.27The_NoahI don't know how.
15:37.29blast007this isn't magic, this is programming
15:37.37JeffMhe's probalby running 2.4 or something
15:37.40blast007if you don't have the glew dll, it WILL NOT run
15:37.45blast0072.4 needs glew too
15:37.56blast007(and the 2.4 deps also have glew)
15:38.08JeffMthe release version of glew may be in his path from some other app, and debug may not be
15:38.11JeffMhe can figure it out
15:38.22The_NoahDo you want me to record a small video showing you that I can run it without the glew DLL?
15:38.31JeffMnoe
15:38.36JeffMI don't actualy care
15:38.45blast007you have a screwy system
15:38.48JeffMyeah
15:39.03JeffMyour screwy system is not important to our work
15:39.15JeffMyou'll need to see why it's doing what it's doing
15:39.23blast007there should be a glew DLL alongside the exe regardless.  if there's not, then you're using the wrong dependencies.
15:39.27JeffMI'd start by checking the post build copy step and see why it's fialing.
15:40.15JeffMyou've aleady been wrong about what branch you were running, so something is out of sync
15:53.52JeffMif it was me I'd start by setting up the debug paths in visual studio and running from there, just to make sure the build is working like expected.
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20:13.55JeffMtechincaly he's also violating forum rules #9 and #2
20:14.14JeffMww
20:17.24The_NoahMe?
20:18.20JeffMno
20:18.37JeffMnot about anyone in this channel
20:18.41The_NoahOh okay.
20:18.49JeffMI thought I had a different tab selected :(
20:19.28The_NoahOkay.
20:19.59kierraidiots abound on public forums :D
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23:41.52JeffMblast007: technically some programming is magic
23:42.13JeffMLike serialization libraries, and regex
23:42.43JeffMAnd sometimes a wizard installs my softwares

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