| 00:09.41 | blast007 | it's not calling OpenGLFramebuffer::initFramebuffer when you start the client windowed |
| 00:15.02 | blast007 | OpenGLFramebuffer::initContext gets called, but within there OpenGLGState::getMaxSamples() returns 1, so it bails out of the function and never calls initFramebuffer() |
| 00:16.13 | blast007 | I'm not clear why freeContext and initContent in OpenGLFramebuffer have that getMaxSamples check |
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| 00:28.04 | blast007 | (lines 122/123 and 135/136 in src/ogl/OpenGLFramebuffer.cxx) |
| 00:45.12 | allejo | i take back what I said. i've something for 2.4.14 real quick |
| 00:48.11 | allejo | maybe... |
| 00:51.05 | blast007 | when launching fullscreen, we end up running OpenGLState::initContext() twice, so it masks the problem (since by the second time we've already run initGLExtensions and know what the maxSamples should be) |
| 00:51.35 | blast007 | allejo: what are you wanting to add? |
| 00:52.13 | macsforme | I think the getMaxSamples() is a sanity check, because OpenGLGState::ContextInitializer::executeFreeFuncs() gets called just before the context gets initialized |
| 00:52.28 | allejo | for bz_eServerShotFiredEvent (added in 2.4.13), I want to see if I can let plug-ins override the flagType of the shot fired |
| 00:52.42 | RoscoePColtrane | mmmmm. Race conditions |
| 00:52.42 | allejo | similar to how bz_eShotFiredEvent allows it in a broken fashion |
| 00:55.09 | blast007 | allejo: what would that be used for? so a plugin could alter the world weapons defined in a map file? or so that one plugin could alter the world weapons of another plugin? |
| 00:55.36 | blast007 | macsforme: can we init GL extensions prior to having a context? |
| 00:55.43 | allejo | blast007: my current use right now would be the latter |
| 00:55.59 | RoscoePColtrane | does that even make sense? |
| 00:56.52 | blast007 | RoscoePColtrane: is that regarding my question about extensions? |
| 00:56.59 | RoscoePColtrane | yes |
| 00:57.17 | RoscoePColtrane | I'm not up on the initialization sequence |
| 00:57.18 | blast007 | I don't work with OpenGL, so I don't know how that works |
| 00:57.23 | RoscoePColtrane | me either |
| 01:03.10 | blast007 | k, I'm thinking "no", because (const char*) glGetString(GL_EXTENSIONS) returns a null pointer when that's all I call in a program |
| 01:04.17 | allejo | was RoscoePColtrane's question "does that even make sense" directed towards to the openGL conversation or my ww question (sorry about the interruption btw)? |
| 01:04.34 | blast007 | my question about opengl extensions |
| 01:05.49 | allejo | is my change to the bz_eServerShotFiredEvent fine or too specialized to my needs? |
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| 01:06.28 | blast007 | allejo: mostly I'd be wondering why you don't just edit the other plugin that generates the world weapons |
| 01:07.35 | allejo | my current use case is a broken-ish "dmz" plugin. basically any shot fired in a zone would be converted into something else |
| 01:07.59 | allejo | so i'd want this plugin to override other plugin's shots without having to modify the other plugins to respect dmz zones |
| 01:10.15 | allejo | or actually, create a bz_eAllowServerShotFiredEvent instead |
| 01:25.07 | RoscoePColtrane | since shots are processed on the client, is that possible? |
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| 01:26.40 | allejo | this is with regards to world weapons (shots fired by SeverPlayer). so there can be an event that modifies that shot data before it's broadcasted |
| 01:30.43 | blast007 | yeah, that seems reasonable to me |
| 01:31.07 | RoscoePColtrane | that is true |
| 01:32.37 | allejo | :D |
| 01:55.13 | macsforme | okay, so the problem was that all of the context initializers were being called before the extensions were checked, so the multisampling extension was showing not ready when OpenGLFramebuffer was trying to initialize |
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| 02:07.17 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 14d18c7b6 15Joshua Bodine: Fixed an issue where multisampling wouldn't work at first if the client was started in windowed mode. |
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| 02:07.20 | macsforme | okay, that should be it for me for 2.4.14 |
| 02:14.34 | macsforme | the sooner we get rid of our current window initialization routine, the better |
| 02:15.24 | blast007 | yeah, it's pretty bad :) |
| 02:16.22 | blast007 | I have a hunch that it's also the reason BulletCatcher has issues with BZFlag running fullscreen when linking against SDL2 |
| 02:16.58 | blast007 | we repeatedly create/destroy the window something like 8 times when we launch the game full screen |
| 02:20.02 | RoscoePColtrane | sheesh |
| 02:22.26 | macsforme | what could possibly go wrong? :P |
| 02:22.57 | RoscoePColtrane | I had this very discussion at work this week: |
| 02:23.11 | RoscoePColtrane | me: it isn't harder to write good code than bad code |
| 02:23.25 | RoscoePColtrane | co-worker: no, I can write bad code all day long |
| 02:38.19 | blast007 | I'm an expert at writing bad code: I'm a PHP developer |
| 02:38.40 | RoscoePColtrane | not a ringing recommendation... |
| 02:39.19 | blast007 | :) |
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| 02:40.32 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 1484731d0 15Vladimir Jimenez: Introduce new bz_eAllowServerShotFiredEvent |
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| 02:40.47 | RoscoePColtrane | oh dear .... that was fast. |
| 02:40.51 | RoscoePColtrane | fully tested, I'm sure |
| 02:41.10 | allejo | who tests code nowadays! |
| 02:41.18 | RoscoePColtrane | all the cool kids |
| 02:41.22 | blast007 | chants "agile" |
| 02:41.23 | RoscoePColtrane | with automated tests! |
| 02:41.41 | allejo | i was never allowed to sit at the cool kids table :( |
| 02:41.47 | blast007 | yeah, our code doesn't really work well with unit tests.. because there's no units.. |
| 02:42.46 | RoscoePColtrane | gives allejo cool shades |
| 02:43.01 | allejo | squees |
| 02:43.14 | RoscoePColtrane | that sounds messy |
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| 02:50.56 | BZnotify | [13bzflag.org] 15allejo pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://git.io/vp4bC |
| 02:50.56 | BZnotify | 13bzflag.org/06master 14d9bb5c3 15Vladimir Jimenez: Document bz_eAllowServerShotFiredEvent |
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| 02:51.29 | RoscoePColtrane | ohh. Documentation is good. Especially if it is accurate |
| 02:52.04 | allejo | might as well document it right now or else i'd forget :) |
| 02:52.32 | allejo | but yea, I tested the new event before I committed :D |
| 02:57.30 | RoscoePColtrane | I recently started working at a new company ... "immature" software development is an understatement |
| 02:57.37 | RoscoePColtrane | so this feels right at home :) |
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| 03:56.10 | allejo | having documentation makes you feel at home, RoscoePColtrane? or were you referring to the SDL2 struggles/inconsistencies? lol |
| 03:57.06 | RoscoePColtrane | just a general comment on the commit. USEFUL documentation is awesome. Docs by the pound are useless |
| 03:57.45 | RoscoePColtrane | the immaturity of the BZFlag development makes me feel at home (although this is miles ahead of my work) :) |
| 04:01.43 | allejo | glad I can do my part in bringing immaturity around here :D |
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| 17:02.57 | macsforme | can we release 2.4.14 today? |
| 17:26.08 | tupone | I have updated my GL1.5 branch. If someone want to test it. Not related to 2.4.14 |
| 17:41.25 | blast007 | macsforme: maybe - I'm gonna do some shopping and another errand, and then I want to go through and see if anything was missed in the ChangeLog |
| 17:43.43 | macsforme | okay |
| 17:44.23 | macsforme | make distcheck and dist does work with no errors... thanks BulletCatcher |
| 17:59.55 | BulletCatcher | Someone should update the copyright dates before releasing. |
| 18:08.14 | BulletCatcher | For the record, I still can't run fullscreen with SDL2. |
| 18:36.04 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: we're hoping that re-doing the window/display initialization code for 2.6 will fix that |
| 18:50.03 | macsforme | I'll work on the copyright update |
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| 19:20.12 | allejo | is there a release name set? |
| 19:22.07 | JeffM | Snape kills dumbledoor |
| 19:23.08 | spldart | heh |
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| 19:30.39 | macsforme | some of the previous release names do not strike me as particularly creative :-P |
| 19:30.50 | macsforme | e.g., BZFlag 2.0.12 "The release without a name." |
| 19:32.12 | spldart | "Creating a better future" sounds good :~p |
| 19:32.19 | macsforme | "April showers bring May flowers" |
| 19:32.55 | spldart | XD |
| 19:46.52 | macsforme | "This is the song that never ends..." |
| 19:47.09 | spldart | "Birds of a feather" |
| 19:50.32 | spldart | Looking through stargate oneill quotes.. How about "Kumbaya" |
| 20:06.32 | macsforme | lol |
| 20:23.53 | spldart | "The next cliche" *ducks and runs away* |
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| 21:23.06 | Zehra | I looked through the source of the zombie plug-in, and there was a few few features outside the API in it. |
| 21:23.26 | Zehra | I'm not sure, but is there any ideas of adding per-player variables? |
| 21:23.31 | Zehra | (in 2.6) |
| 21:32.41 | JeffM | Itâs more than variables, but yes itâs been discussed |
| 21:33.11 | JeffM | And yes some poorly written plug-ins use bzfs calls directly |
| 21:33.26 | JeffM | They are not portable to all systems and will be broken |
| 21:33.59 | JeffM | âThe one where everyone diesâ |
| 21:41.29 | Zehra | I've seen a few which would be really nice if they used the API. :/ |
| 21:41.48 | Zehra | It mostly seems to prevent Windows from using them always. |
| 21:42.15 | Zehra | (team switching, per-player variable changing...etc) |
| 21:42.19 | L4m3r | how about "Thanos kills Batman" |
| 21:45.49 | spldart | Wowzers. I am watching SG1 ep "Fallout" and they were just talking about the goauld Thanos XD |
| 22:18.59 | I_Died_Once | That scene... where they reveal that Thanos' mother is named Martha, too... |
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