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| 12:08.09 | blast007 | I'd like us to look into doing both flatpak and snaps |
| 12:09.09 | blast007 | iirc, one uses selinux and the other uses apparmor, and I don't believe you can mix selinux and apparmor on a system |
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| 17:22.37 | Zehra | The forums got hit with some spam. |
| 17:22.55 | Zehra | https://forums.bzflag.org/search.php?search_id=active_topics |
| 17:22.56 | blast007 | its our new sponsor |
| 17:23.15 | Zehra | :p |
| 17:24.52 | blast007 | deleted - thanks Zehra |
| 17:25.39 | Zehra | ty blast007 |
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| 20:47.39 | allejo | what are the requirements for flatpak and snaps? like what do we have to do? |
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| 21:20.15 | blast007 | from the Flatpak guide "Access to other things, such as other processes, is deliberately not possible." wonder if that means the bzflag.exe can't start bzfs.exe, or if it just means that we can't access unrelated processes |
| 21:23.21 | blast007 | "Sorry, we had to remove the Start Server menu because of Flatpak. Our hand was forced!" |
| 21:26.26 | blast007 | https://build.snapcraft.io/ |
| 21:29.57 | allejo | I wouldnât mind killing off âStart Serverâ :p |
| 21:30.35 | blast007 | :) |
| 21:31.54 | Zehra | I'm not sure, but I think more people press "Start Server" by mistake, than actually pressing it to start a server. :p |
| 21:32.59 | blast007 | it's a very unhelpful menu as well.. when things don't work it gives no detail as to why |
| 21:33.17 | blast007 | and it doesn't get much/any testisng |
| 21:33.20 | blast007 | testing* |
| 21:35.02 | Zehra | If anyone wants, I could remove it and send it as a pull request. |
| 21:35.44 | Zehra | isn't sure if pull request is the correct term though |
| 21:37.08 | blast007 | we're sorta halfway joking right now |
| 21:37.13 | blast007 | maybe for 2.6 though |
| 21:37.35 | blast007 | are we wanting to worry about flatpak/snaps for 2.4? or just wait for 2.6? |
| 21:37.52 | blast007 | the sandboxing might mean we have to adjust some of the paths we write to, for instance |
| 21:39.01 | blast007 | snaps has two sandboxing modes (plus one for dev), one being strict and the other classic |
| 21:39.08 | blast007 | https://docs.snapcraft.io/reference/confinement |
| 21:42.07 | blast007 | might be able to grant access to the home directory for strict with the 'home' interface, though |
| 21:42.37 | blast007 | https://docs.snapcraft.io/reference/interfaces (there's stuff there like pulseaudio, joystick, opengl, etc that we'd need) |
| 21:46.22 | blast007 | flatpak has a similar, less friendly way of that: http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html |
| 21:48.51 | blast007 | for flatpak we might need --socket=x11 --device=dri --socket=pulseaudio --share=network --filesystem=~/.bzf/:create |
| 21:50.03 | blast007 | eventually would be nice for us to dump screenshots into the Pictures folder/library on Linux/Windows (and macOS? dunno what that has) |
| 22:36.01 | allejo | if we can realistically and easily get snaps/flatpaks working for 2.4, I donât see the harm |
| 22:36.22 | allejo | would give us more traffic, and more motivation for 2.6 |
| 22:52.05 | blast007 | would we delay 2.4.14 for it? or would we target a 2.4.16 release? |
| 23:15.36 | allejo | Iâd say target 2.4.16. if anything, I have some plans for color blindness assistance for 2.4.x |
| 23:16.03 | allejo | unless the 2.4.14 milestone on GH takes that long |