| 00:10.29 | JeffM | thinks about how to make an allejo-proof flag cache |
| 00:20.57 | JeffM | thanks the maker for the readonly property :) |
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| 17:00.17 | JeffM | welcome to the least productive day of the year! |
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| 17:57.01 | allejo | JeffM, where thereâs a will, thereâs a way! |
| 17:57.45 | JeffM | allejo: I have a security conscious language on my side :) |
| 17:58.24 | JeffM | though I do allow a TON of more stuff to be overriden |
| 17:58.52 | JeffM | want to make your own spawn code for random flags, install a delegate. |
| 18:00.21 | allejo | :o |
| 18:00.57 | allejo | oh. out of curiosity, any chance you could some zone entering and exiting on your server? |
| 18:01.15 | JeffM | sure, once I get a server state |
| 18:01.26 | JeffM | right now I'm not really using the maps |
| 18:01.36 | JeffM | but I plan to do server side interpolation. |
| 18:01.43 | JeffM | it may not be 100% accurate |
| 18:02.20 | JeffM | the problem is the client doesn't send an update when it enters a zone. |
| 18:02.42 | allejo | yah :( |
| 18:03.50 | JeffM | I could tell you if it's the first update in a zone, that'd be pretty easy |
| 18:09.29 | allejo | player update, i.e. ? |
| 18:11.17 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:12.11 | JeffM | I guess could do 2 events, one for interpolated enter/exit and one for actual enter/exit |
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| 19:10.00 | JeffM | Yay, flag spawning. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EzOYRP4r/Flags.png |
| 19:18.24 | blast007 | neat :) |
| 19:20.35 | JeffM | I didn't do the wacky +f -f stuff that screws everyone up |
| 19:21.50 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:22.49 | JeffM | I figured this should be reasonable for testing. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HBOv7JeZ/ |
| 19:23.21 | JeffM | anything more fancy can use a plugin |
| 19:24.37 | JeffM | also geno is disallowed by default unless you set a specific bool in an outer structure. |
| 19:30.13 | blast007 | UnfunGameplay = true |
| 19:30.15 | JeffM | oh damn.. was server side flag gabs in the 2.99 stuff only? |
| 19:30.43 | blast007 | I think 2.4 only moved the ID flag server-side |
| 19:30.47 | JeffM | bahhh |
| 19:30.58 | JeffM | rethinks his design |
| 19:31.27 | blast007 | you're referring to the client telling the server it wants to grab a specific flag instead of the server saying "you're grabbing this flag"? |
| 19:32.02 | JeffM | I recall that the client just sent out a TON of upates when it was around a flag and the server checked on each update to see if the player was near a flag |
| 19:32.06 | JeffM | and gave it to them |
| 19:32.21 | JeffM | so you could not grab a flag that was far from you |
| 19:32.37 | blast007 | oh yee of little faith ;) |
| 19:32.52 | JeffM | does it do both? |
| 19:33.01 | JeffM | ahh checkPos |
| 19:33.10 | blast007 | no, I mean it probably didn't prevent that any more than our current stuff does |
| 19:33.17 | JeffM | sure |
| 19:33.21 | JeffM | but you'd have to do more work |
| 19:33.31 | blast007 | not really |
| 19:33.46 | JeffM | not a LOT more work ;) |
| 19:33.48 | blast007 | fake your position, grab flag |
| 19:33.48 | JeffM | just some |
| 19:34.15 | JeffM | because the speed checks suck |
| 19:34.25 | blast007 | and teleporters |
| 19:34.40 | JeffM | should always force an update after porting |
| 19:34.48 | JeffM | you can't grab though a porter |
| 19:35.01 | JeffM | I'd also burn an update into the grab message. |
| 19:35.07 | JeffM | make that be contigous. |
| 19:36.09 | JeffM | why would anyone ever want to change flagRadius on the fly? |
| 19:36.21 | blast007 | or at all? |
| 19:36.36 | JeffM | make the game harder? |
| 19:36.36 | blast007 | there's a bunch of bzdb vars that are kinda silly |
| 19:36.57 | JeffM | I could see setting it once and transmiting it to the client |
| 19:37.06 | JeffM | but I'd make that part of game settings, not bzdb |
| 19:37.52 | blast007 | is that the distance to a flag you need to be within to grab it? |
| 19:38.02 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:38.14 | JeffM | flag rad + tank rad + speed |
| 19:38.56 | blast007 | just seems to me like that should be a hard and fast game mechanic, not the whim of a server/map |
| 19:46.05 | JeffM | Sure |
| 19:46.11 | JeffM | I can harcode |
| 19:46.35 | blast007 | doesn't have to happen now. it's something I want to review for 2.6 |
| 19:47.29 | JeffM | Well Iâll do this then, set the bush var at startup and lock it from changes |
| 19:47.56 | JeffM | Bzdb silly phone |
| 19:48.12 | blast007 | Autoincorrect |
| 19:48.37 | JeffM | Iâm not going to actually read the options block from the map, Iâll do a selective upgrade |
| 19:49.11 | JeffM | I want to try a new 2 new map blocks, flags and environment |
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| 23:15.41 | JeffM | is the list server told how many flags a game has? |
| 23:16.52 | JeffM | oh and I added another proto suggestion, split the massages that have different packing on the client and server into different messages. |
| 23:17.06 | JeffM | MsgSendChat and MsgReceiveChat instead of MsgMessage |
| 23:17.38 | JeffM | MsgWantFlag and MsgGrantFlag instead of MsgGrabFlag, etc.. |
| 23:19.13 | blast007 | no, list doesn't know how many flags |
| 23:19.51 | blast007 | beyond player counts, I think it's mostly boolean flags |
| 23:19.58 | JeffM | and shots IIRC |
| 23:20.05 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:46.46 | JeffM | blast007: do you think the height a flag pops into the air shoudl be dynamically settable? |
| 23:48.47 | JeffM | also why have all the stuff for extra flight time on the shield flag, why not just despawn and respawn it on drop? |
| 23:55.11 | blast007 | I think all of the _flag* vars are silly |
| 23:55.29 | JeffM | cool |
| 23:56.28 | JeffM | anything you think is silly but needed for client animation should be moved into settings. |
| 23:56.43 | JeffM | or hard coded. |
| 23:57.05 | JeffM | I could see pole size being a client setting to help disabled people see the pole better |
| 23:57.43 | JeffM | what about the fact that shield pops extra high instead of just zaping? |
| 23:58.05 | JeffM | I belive the idea is to prevent a tank from regrabbing it between 2 quick shots. |
| 23:58.14 | JeffM | zap would do the same thing |
