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| 15:09.01 | blast007 | galileo: need help with something? |
| 15:09.41 | blast007 | galileo: support/development channel for BZFlag |
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| 17:51.18 | JeffM | casts See Invisible |
| 17:52.02 | blast007 | :) |
| 17:52.14 | JeffM | attacks the darkness |
| 17:52.35 | blast007 | You are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
| 17:52.56 | JeffM | I have a dagger of grue slaying it's +15 against grues |
| 17:54.20 | JeffM | blast007: do I have a public key? |
| 17:54.42 | blast007 | I can check when I get home. Don't have access from here. |
| 17:54.46 | JeffM | k |
| 17:55.03 | JeffM | actualy it may be better to try private first :) |
| 17:55.35 | JeffM | thinks his server is ready for someone other than him to try it |
| 17:55.43 | JeffM | Early Access Yo! |
| 17:56.36 | blast007 | does it include janky ragdoll physics and do buildings fail to load in ever 15 rounds? |
| 17:56.54 | JeffM | yes |
| 17:57.01 | JeffM | and you can fly through a moon |
| 17:57.37 | blast007 | take my money! |
| 17:59.43 | JeffM | so the version this will return is 2.4.99.1-libBZFlag_(Debug/Release)_Managed |
| 18:03.29 | allejo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.40 | JeffM | it's called msbuild :) |
| 18:04.28 | JeffM | command line build "should" be as easy as nuget restore BZFSPro.sln | msbuild BZFSPro.sln |
| 18:04.37 | JeffM | I've only ever tried it with mono build. |
| 18:04.50 | JeffM | but I'll also make a bin package |
| 18:05.18 | allejo | I can test when I get home too |
| 18:05.29 | JeffM | ok |
| 18:05.42 | JeffM | I'm going to make a few tweaks to force it to always log :) |
| 18:06.31 | blast007 | I don't know if we'd move to a C# implementation, but I think it's useful work regardless as it will at least give us a clearer idea of what the server does (or needs to do) if we start major refactoring. |
| 18:06.58 | JeffM | yes, it asks the hard questions :) |
| 18:10.14 | allejo | I have an excuse to refresh my C# so there's that too |
| 18:10.19 | blast007 | I want to start working on the new web management portal. That'd be for, initially, organisation management (server keys and groups). Is there any specific features we'd want for organisation management? |
| 18:10.42 | JeffM | a self serve portal for group owners :) |
| 18:11.01 | blast007 | For server keys, I plan to have them assigned to an organisation instead of an individual, and provide a migration option for user own legacy keys. |
| 18:11.24 | blast007 | would it be useful to be able to share a key with other users? |
| 18:12.03 | blast007 | otherwise I could have it so that only the founder of the organisation can see/modify the keys |
| 18:12.16 | JeffM | maybe have a group member level be "server operator" and only operators can see your org's keys |
| 18:12.43 | JeffM | or let the founder flag a specific sub group as having key access |
| 18:12.56 | JeffM | can an org have multiple keys? |
| 18:13.04 | blast007 | yes |
| 18:14.36 | JeffM | then from a leauge management prerspeciive, it would be good to group server owners at least for key access, they will probalby also want them for other reasons |
| 18:14.42 | JeffM | like sending a group message |
| 18:14.55 | blast007 | ah, yeah, wasn't thinking of something like a league |
| 18:15.27 | blast007 | so definitely want to be able to share a key with a specific user |
| 18:15.45 | blast007 | but leave creation/assignment to the founder? |
| 18:15.57 | JeffM | probably |
| 18:16.32 | JeffM | after the initial transfers are done, you don't want people adding servers with out a founder knowing I'd think |
| 18:16.32 | blast007 | part of creating an organisation will also be reserving their "short code" (the first half of group names) |
| 18:16.41 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:17.05 | JeffM | you will need an unresponsive founder pollicy |
| 18:18.30 | blast007 | for the groups, I was thinking of having group admins that (along with the founder) are able to create/delete groups, modify group settings, add/remove group managers or members to/from groups |
| 18:18.44 | blast007 | group managers are assigned to a specific group and allow them to add/remove members |
| 18:20.03 | blast007 | and I'm planning a option to include/exclude the founders/group admins from membership and one to exclude managers from membership |
| 18:24.02 | JeffM | for the brave of heart, https://github.com/JeffM2501/LibBZFlag/releases/tag/2.4.99.1a_testing_build |
| 18:45.18 | blast007 | Would there be a situation where you'd have a group with several group managers and you only want *some* of those group managers to be "members" of the group? |
| 18:46.33 | allejo | one of those group managers have been naughty and need to be added to that group? |
| 19:55.55 | JeffM | Why keep them as a manager then? |
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| 22:56.06 | JeffM | whee, bug in the unpack of MsgKilled, the shooter always died too :) |
| 23:43.28 | JeffM | there we go, all fixed. https://github.com/JeffM2501/LibBZFlag/releases/tag/2.4.99.1b_testing_build |