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| 04:13.23 | macsforme | my app signing key is down to less than three years before it expires, so I need to buy a new one and also see if the c-ares issue has been fixed... I'll try to post a build tomorrow or Tuesday |
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| 17:49.22 | JeffM | macsforme: how much do keys cost? |
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| 22:36.57 | spldart | Holy poop! lxss and lxcore in Windows 10. Was watching an IT guy ssh'ing into headless linux box from bash in 10! I had no idea. All you got to do is turn Dev mode on in Windows.... IB la duh! So last year.... X~D |
| 22:43.33 | JeffM | spldart: you don't even have to do that with the last update |
| 22:43.40 | JeffM | just install ubuntu from the windows app store |
| 22:44.02 | JeffM | dev mode was when the WSL was in beta |
| 22:44.03 | spldart | o_O Wow! |
| 22:44.22 | JeffM | they have ubuntu, suse, and one other I think |
| 22:44.25 | JeffM | maybe fedora |
| 22:44.59 | spldart | Very interesting move from Microsoft |
| 22:45.15 | JeffM | been around for a few months now |
| 22:46.25 | spldart | Not surprised I'm behind. No windows here. Was hanging with the head of the IT department for a major ISD last weekend and he showed me a few tricks 8D |
| 22:48.57 | JeffM | they just need to finish the native ssh stuff for the regular console and powershell |
| 22:49.00 | spldart | Then again... I guess 'he' is a few months behind from what you just said XD |
| 22:49.58 | spldart | Lindows or Winux :) |
| 22:50.07 | JeffM | the latest update was just a few weeks ago |
| 22:50.15 | JeffM | so I can see IT waiting for it shake out |
| 22:50.25 | JeffM | fall creators update |
| 22:50.49 | JeffM | I don't have it on my work machine yet |
| 22:51.31 | JeffM | they did also open source powershell so it can be on linux too |
| 22:51.37 | spldart | *me* wonders what the future holds for these to OS's |
| 22:51.54 | spldart | s/to/two |
| 22:52.23 | JeffM | microsoft knows a lot of servers run linux, they want to make linux run better on the azure cloud |
| 22:52.36 | JeffM | they also want to make it easier to manage linux servers from a normal windows desktop |
| 22:52.42 | JeffM | thus, all this work |
| 22:52.56 | JeffM | so now if you are used to powershell, install that on your linux VMs |
| 22:53.10 | JeffM | if you are used to bash, use that on your windows machine |
| 22:53.11 | spldart | So... Make it easy to administrate both windows and linux servers from a windows desktop |
| 22:53.23 | spldart | Ah |
| 22:53.24 | JeffM | or use the WSL to build/develop for linux on your windows machine, etc... |
| 22:53.28 | JeffM | yes |
| 22:53.39 | JeffM | all using MS provided services |
| 22:53.41 | spldart | Using win heads and linux heads on the same desktop too |
| 22:53.54 | JeffM | thus they keep selling services. |
| 22:54.01 | spldart | gotcha |
| 22:54.27 | JeffM | now they are doing it smart, by actualy contributing back to the open source proejcts they extend |
| 22:54.43 | JeffM | linux kernel, openssl, etc.. |
| 22:55.13 | spldart | So this compatibilty thing they are doing is open? |
| 22:55.40 | JeffM | the WSL is not open, but changes they make to open source projects are commited back |
| 22:55.45 | JeffM | and they open source parts of it |
| 22:55.53 | spldart | Ah. understood |
| 22:55.58 | JeffM | like .net core, the .net compiler, powershell |
| 22:56.49 | spldart | I may have to stop being quite so anti windows now. |
| 22:57.12 | JeffM | hard position to be in and want to play games ;) |
| 22:57.16 | JeffM | linux hates games |
| 22:57.23 | JeffM | it loves to host them, hates to play them |
| 22:58.02 | spldart | I'm not much of a gamer any more. |
| 22:58.08 | spldart | But your totally right on that. |
| 22:58.56 | JeffM | games don't fit the linux ideology, you can't pipe one game into another |
| 22:59.18 | JeffM | or update them in a timely manner |
| 23:01.32 | spldart | Well.. Except for the internet. All I need is an OS that can get on a network and access a database and not be rebooted but once in a very long while. So I'm a happy clam. |
| 23:02.12 | JeffM | a rasbery pi can do that |
| 23:02.40 | spldart | ... Ok... And occasionally do some video editing/encoding... |
| 23:02.56 | spldart | Did the new pi go 64 bit? |
| 23:02.57 | JeffM | so an iphone |
| 23:03.02 | spldart | lmao |
| 23:03.12 | JeffM | it does what you said you wanted |
| 23:03.28 | spldart | multi gig videos? on an iphone? |
| 23:03.33 | JeffM | sure |
| 23:03.40 | spldart | In 20 minutes? |
| 23:03.42 | spldart | ;) |
| 23:03.45 | JeffM | can even record in 4k |
| 23:03.51 | JeffM | you made no menton of speed |
| 23:04.06 | JeffM | for video processing you want a ryzen CPU |
| 23:04.08 | spldart | honestly though.. I have a personal boycott on apple. so.. yeah |
| 23:10.52 | JeffM | get yourself a nice threadripper and go to town on the cores |
| 23:13.03 | spldart | I do need to build a new machine soon. |
| 23:13.48 | JeffM | I picked up a Ryzen 1700 |
| 23:13.54 | JeffM | it's worked very well for me |
| 23:13.59 | blast007 | the Pi3 is technically a 64-bit chip, but Raspbian is 32-bit |
| 23:14.00 | JeffM | 8 cores, 16 threads |
| 23:14.50 | spldart | I'm pricing now. |
| 23:14.53 | spldart | :) |
| 23:15.03 | spldart | Just need a new bike first. |
| 23:19.00 | JeffM | it does make lightmap generation go faster |
| 23:19.53 | spldart | .. and video encoding go faster? ;) |
| 23:20.17 | JeffM | I don't know, I don't encode videos. but a lot of the reviewers I watched, said it did for them |
| 23:21.24 | spldart | Thanks! I'll keep this processor in mind :) |
| 23:21.52 | JeffM | many of them liked the 1500 for bang/buck |
| 23:22.55 | JeffM | or maybe it was the 1600 |
| 23:24.44 | spldart | Those are my sensible price range. I could spend more when I do this but I've long since said 'goodbye' to my watercooled dual processor uber overclock expensive compy days... Geez! That was like....14 or 15 years ago 8O |
| 23:30.33 | JeffM | just make sure your encoding software can handle that many threads |
| 23:31.11 | spldart | Gotcha... I'll check that now. |
| 23:32.33 | spldart | "scale well up to 6 CPU cores with diminishing returns thereafter." Heck.. that leaves some cores for me to poke around on youtube nstuff ;) |
| 23:33.07 | JeffM | that's what a lot of reviewers said, they were able to game, or watch youtube while videos rendered out |
| 23:33.22 | JeffM | thus making it an excellent task oriented machine |
| 23:33.37 | JeffM | the intel CPUs still win at single threaded tasks |
| 23:33.54 | spldart | Lookout... I'm getting excited! |
| 23:43.40 | JeffM | sooo very tempting... https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/99080 |
| 23:59.56 | spldart | Some good looking models. |