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| 01:32.08 | TANKy | Has anyone seen TimRiker? |
| 01:33.57 | blast007 | he's generally not in the channel |
| 01:34.03 | blast007 | is there something we could help you with? |
| 01:36.53 | TANKy | yes |
| 01:36.58 | TANKy | well no |
| 01:37.03 | TANKy | it's under his jurisdiction |
| 01:37.47 | JeffM | so it has to do with the bzflag domain? because that's about all he deals with |
| 01:37.50 | JeffM | or a license issue |
| 01:38.24 | JeffM | he does not actively maintain the game anymore, that has been offloaded. |
| 01:44.01 | TANKy | http://infobot.rikers.org |
| 01:44.13 | JeffM | I'd send him an email |
| 01:44.17 | JeffM | he responds to those |
| 01:44.29 | TANKy | he said he can be found on irc on this chan as timriker that's why i joined, i'm sorry if i've done something wrong. |
| 01:44.36 | TANKy | i just did. hope he uses pgp |
| 01:44.38 | JeffM | no, nothitng wrong |
| 01:44.54 | JeffM | he just NEVER comes here anymore |
| 01:45.03 | JeffM | and if t was something with the game we coudl help you |
| 01:45.07 | TANKy | oh, how old is he now? |
| 01:45.10 | JeffM | but yeah Info bot is all him |
| 01:45.17 | TANKy | no it's about my privacy and his logging |
| 01:45.24 | TANKy | i've got a static ip |
| 01:45.41 | JeffM | yeah there are channels he logs |
| 01:45.51 | blast007 | including this one |
| 01:45.52 | JeffM | IIRC the owners of the channels requested it |
| 01:45.54 | JeffM | yeah |
| 01:46.09 | JeffM | IRC is not the best about privacy or security |
| 01:47.29 | blast007 | freenode has cloaks you can request from freenode staffers (which you can ensure gets applied before anything else by using SASL) and OFTC has something similar you can set via their nickserv |
| 01:49.09 | TANKy | blast007 your comment is worthless |
| 01:49.32 | JeffM | ahhh, one of those |
| 01:49.54 | JeffM | well he usualy responds in a day or two, so just chill |
| 01:50.00 | TANKy | the problem is, about 4 years ago i accidentaly didn't check if my hostmask before joining a channel |
| 01:50.03 | JeffM | but it's higly likely he'll change logging. |
| 01:50.28 | JeffM | unlikely I mean |
| 01:50.28 | TANKy | likely or unlikely? |
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| 01:51.19 | TANKy | well i'll find out which language he uses and come with a patch(.sh/.php/.cgi) to grep and censure my ip from his logs or my handle or both. |
| 01:51.28 | JeffM | he's just logging the data he sees. |
| 01:51.39 | JeffM | IIRC it's perl |
| 01:51.53 | JeffM | and he doens't have to run that patch...... |
| 01:51.56 | blast007 | the logs are probably just text files though |
| 01:52.12 | JeffM | he didn't send the data he logged :) |
| 01:52.14 | JeffM | you did |
| 01:52.23 | JeffM | if you didn't want it logged or seen, don't send it |
| 01:52.32 | JeffM | ain't our job to ensure your privacy |
| 01:52.46 | TANKy | you don't understand mr Jeff |
| 01:52.52 | JeffM | oh I do.... |
| 01:52.58 | JeffM | probalby more than you |
| 01:52.59 | TANKy | just because i joined a channel doesn't mean i'm in the wrong |
| 01:53.16 | JeffM | you sent the data, if you didn't want to send the data you should not have. |
| 01:53.24 | JeffM | and who says sending that data is "wrong"? |
| 01:53.28 | JeffM | that's your qualification |
| 01:53.33 | JeffM | not the rest of the worlds |
| 01:53.47 | TANKy | you're arguing with me aren't you? :( |
| 01:53.57 | blast007 | in any case, it doesn't sound like there's anything we can help you with |
| 01:53.57 | JeffM | I've writen IRC clients and servers, I know how insecure it is :) |
| 01:54.04 | TANKy | blast007 you're right |
| 01:54.05 | JeffM | no, it is not anything we can help you with |
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| 01:54.09 | JeffM | wow |
| 01:55.07 | JeffM | you logged his IP right :) |
| 01:55.12 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:56.05 | blast007 | just a HE IPv6 though, so probably a IPv6 tunnel |
| 01:56.05 | JeffM | grrrr... why can't I get an explosion to spawn!!!! |
| 01:56.26 | blast007 | have you tried adding more themite? |
| 01:56.40 | blast007 | thermite, even |
| 01:56.47 | JeffM | oddly that was it |
| 01:56.54 | JeffM | I was using the wrong explosion :) |
| 01:57.22 | blast007 | can not tell if serious |
| 01:57.26 | JeffM | I was |
| 01:57.48 | JeffM | ShotOnWorldExplosion is too hard to see at distance, but it should have been using Detonator-Chunks |
| 01:58.16 | JeffM | also ShotOnWorldExplosion is local only so it can't be triggered by the server |
| 01:59.19 | JeffM | Yep.. now it's a big badaboom |
| 02:00.11 | JeffM | now I just need to get remote clients to display current health |
| 02:00.52 | the_map | JeffM, could I request context please? I don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds interesting :) |
| 02:01.02 | JeffM | so I have a tank |
| 02:01.06 | JeffM | I want it t explode |
| 02:01.13 | JeffM | when the server says so |
| 02:01.29 | JeffM | I had the server spawning the wrong explosion object |
| 02:01.38 | JeffM | one that can't be triggered by the server |
| 02:02.04 | the_map | would the purpose of this be to help prevent "God mode"? or something else? |
| 02:02.19 | JeffM | this is a system with an authoritive server |
| 02:03.20 | JeffM | so I have the server checking for death |
| 02:03.27 | JeffM | this server has a full gamestate |
| 02:04.28 | JeffM | and yes, it does not suffer from god mode issues |
| 02:04.59 | JeffM | at least for shots right now |
| 02:05.08 | JeffM | I'm not validating user input in any way yet |
| 02:05.15 | the_map | this sounds like a huge project; is it a complete refactor / rewrite, or is it not as bad as it sounds? |
| 02:05.40 | JeffM | it's not using the bzflag codebase in any way |
| 02:05.42 | JeffM | it's a test |
| 02:05.47 | JeffM | using a different engine |
| 02:05.56 | JeffM | it's like a day or so of work so far |
| 02:06.14 | JeffM | well maybe 2 days, I redid part it of it to make spawning better |
| 02:06.26 | JeffM | two network synced player objects intead of one |
| 02:06.43 | JeffM | one for the player connection, another for each tank they spawn and drive. |
| 02:06.56 | JeffM | tanks are created and destroyed as needed |
| 02:08.11 | JeffM | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RddMUeuj/ |
| 02:12.05 | JeffM | shots with trails look super cool |
| 02:15.05 | JeffM | hmm, need to fix it so explosions don't throw tanks around eather. |
| 02:43.08 | JeffM | does that help you out the_map ? |
| 05:25.31 | the_map | yes, thank you |
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