| 00:02.13 | joevano | JeffM: set a budget on how much you want to spend and then fit your wedding in it |
| 00:02.24 | joevano | otherwise costs tend to rise |
| 00:03.56 | JeffM | yeah, thats what we started with |
| 00:04.05 | JeffM | you just had to go through that didn't you joevano :) |
| 00:04.16 | joevano | we just got through my daughter's wedding and that seemed to work pretty well... had to be relistic but still got the important things in |
| 00:04.34 | kierra | Baroness just got married in June...when thru it too |
| 00:04.48 | joevano | everyone said it was one of the best they had been to as well |
| 00:05.06 | JeffM | we are going to have it in a later month like late october/november to also get out of "wedding season" |
| 00:05.48 | JeffM | just to see, she priced having it at a hotel at disneyland, 50k+ |
| 00:06.12 | joevano | heck when we started looking some of the places we went looking at the reception hall cost double what we spent on the whole wedding, dress, church, music, hall and meal |
| 00:06.42 | JeffM | yeah that seems to be where the expense is |
| 00:07.05 | JeffM | the curent front runner is a place owned by the city, parks and rec, and would be 5k fixed price |
| 00:07.18 | JeffM | and it comes with tables and chairs and PA and stuff. |
| 00:07.45 | joevano | we had 175 guests, catered dinner, nice hall, music, pictures and everything for under $10 |
| 00:07.58 | joevano | including the dress |
| 00:08.14 | JeffM | yes but you don't live in southern california :) |
| 00:08.47 | joevano | probably a bit pricier out there, but you dont have to spend tons to have something nice |
| 00:08.55 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:09.16 | JeffM | we don't have to pay an officant, we are getting her grandma ordained to do it :) |
| 00:09.24 | joevano | no one is going to care the day after, they are just going to remember having a good time |
| 00:10.06 | JeffM | yeah, I've sadly already done it once. |
| 00:21.43 | JeffM | goes back to testing distributed node services |
| 00:22.20 | the_map | "Thank you for holding..." :P |
| 00:23.04 | JeffM | different kind of services |
| 00:23.49 | JeffM | host and user management |
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| 01:33.04 | macsforme | congrats, JeffM |
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| 02:17.15 | JeffM | Thanks |
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| 05:09.57 | the_map | git commit -m "`git diff`" #for that last one :P |
| 05:11.24 | allejo | I'll probably end up squashing that branch anyways, so... doable :p |
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| 15:50.03 | JeffM | hmmm vps for 12$ a year... how sucky will this be :) |
| 15:59.54 | WarPig | I just had a report that team balancing is broken. |
| 16:00.30 | WarPig | This server is a 4 team CTF. It will not allow three one player teams, it forces 2vs1. |
| 16:00.31 | JeffM | yeah, green tanks are OP |
| 16:01.28 | WarPig | OP? |
| 16:02.22 | JeffM | Over Powered |
| 16:02.39 | WarPig | ah. |
| 16:02.47 | JeffM | should be nerfed |
| 16:03.22 | WarPig | So, should the server allow 3 one player teams on a 4 team ctf? |
| 16:03.43 | JeffM | the auto balance code probalby prefers that a team have more than one person |
| 16:03.45 | JeffM | hence team |
| 16:03.50 | JeffM | meaning more than one |
| 16:04.04 | JeffM | I'd turn off auto ballance |
| 16:04.08 | JeffM | if that's your goal |
| 16:04.21 | JeffM | or write a 1v1v1v1 preference plugin to override it |
| 16:04.54 | WarPig | Eh. Not my server.. I was just curious. Thanks for the answer |
| 16:05.54 | JeffM | it's not really a "bug" just the way the code was done, it's a depth first vs breadth first algorithm choice. |
| 16:06.48 | JeffM | It prefers 2 v 2 instead of 1 v 1 v 1 v 1, since that actually required teamwork in a team game :) |
| 16:06.51 | WarPig | So, it assumes it would be better to have 2vs2 than 1v1v1v1 |
| 16:06.54 | JeffM | yeah |
| 16:07.01 | WarPig | makes sense |
| 16:11.51 | WarPig | $12 VPS will be a 386SX with a 486 upgrade adapter installed... and 512K of ram. |
| 16:12.18 | WarPig | ...no matter what the marketing slick says. |
| 16:13.01 | JeffM | how do you check ram in linux? |
| 16:13.10 | JeffM | for 12$ I bought one. |
| 16:13.16 | JeffM | am connected to it now |
| 16:13.40 | JeffM | top says I have a gig of ram and a gig of swap |
| 16:14.14 | JeffM | df says 30 gigs of storage |
| 16:15.28 | WarPig | 'free' is the command |
| 16:15.42 | JeffM | and /proc/cpuinfo says it's a 2 gig xeon |
| 16:16.04 | WarPig | Not bad for $1/mo |
| 16:16.13 | JeffM | well slightly more |
| 16:16.24 | JeffM | I added 3$ a year for an extra core |
| 16:16.55 | WarPig | awesome. Who's that with? |
| 16:17.03 | JeffM | AlphaRack |
| 16:17.10 | WarPig | groovy |
| 16:17.19 | WarPig | scurries off to check it out. |
| 16:17.21 | JeffM | https://lowendbox.com/blog/alpharacks-summer-2k17-sale-master-resellers-openvz-vps-from-8-00year/ |
| 16:17.29 | JeffM | thats where I saw the deal page |
| 16:17.50 | JeffM | they were sold out of the 8$ a year vps |
| 16:18.36 | WarPig | how much ram did 'free' report? |
| 16:18.55 | JeffM | jeffm@alpha1:~$ free |
| 16:18.55 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.55 | JeffM | Mem: 1048576 172656 227804 96916 648116 776240 |
| 16:18.55 | JeffM | Swap: 1048576 123844 924732 |
| 16:18.55 | JeffM | jeffm@alpha1:~$ |
| 16:19.42 | WarPig | one gig. |
| 16:20.06 | WarPig | (those are kilobytes, by default.) |
| 16:22.25 | WarPig | df -h (available disk) |
| 16:22.40 | JeffM | yeah that's how I saw it said 30 gig |
| 16:22.59 | JeffM | plenty of space for .net apps and datbases :) |
| 16:23.05 | WarPig | oh, missed that |
| 16:25.07 | JeffM | installs mono-devel |
| 16:27.31 | JeffM | yay, and SSL unit test works |
| 16:28.57 | WarPig | You prefer monodevel to eclipse? |
| 16:29.18 | JeffM | not the IDE |
| 16:29.22 | JeffM | and GOD YES |
| 16:29.31 | JeffM | eclipse is an abomination |
| 16:29.39 | JeffM | it's nearly unuseable |
| 16:29.46 | JeffM | and buggy as hell |
| 16:29.54 | JeffM | if I am forced to use java, I'll use netbeans |
| 16:30.01 | WarPig | I have no frame of reference, I have only used eclipse. (...and vi) |
| 16:30.17 | JeffM | then you know not the joys of a properly designed IDE |
| 16:30.25 | WarPig | Eclipse is WAY better than vi. |
| 16:30.45 | JeffM | sure, but that's like saying getting kicked in the nuts is better than getting run over by a car |
| 16:31.40 | JeffM | visual studio is the full body massage in that comparison :) |
| 16:31.48 | WarPig | HA! I'll give it a shot. Pretty much all the development I do is PHP, and eclipse has worked pretty well for me. |
| 16:32.00 | JeffM | sure, for php it's probalby fine |
| 16:32.08 | JeffM | you don't need a compiler or debugger |
| 16:32.14 | WarPig | right |
| 16:32.21 | JeffM | the momement it has to deal with a real language it's poops the bed |
| 16:32.42 | JeffM | notepad++ is decent for php, but I use Dreamweaver if I have to do php |
| 16:33.09 | WarPig | Dreamweaver is still around? |
| 16:33.13 | JeffM | yeah |
| 16:33.19 | JeffM | it's part of the adobe CS |
| 16:34.47 | JeffM | but all the code I'm testing now is C#, so it's all VS |
| 16:35.08 | JeffM | it would build in monodev if need be though |
| 16:35.12 | JeffM | not that it needs to be built for linux |
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| 16:43.42 | JeffM | yay, and it looks like it all works :) http://alpha1.hyperdrive.tech:5151/ |
| 16:44.07 | JeffM | except the busted timestamp |
| 16:55.47 | blast007 | openvz lets them overprovision memory |
| 16:57.08 | blast007 | so it might actually be 512MB or 768MB that can "burst" to 1GB (and if there isn't RAM it'll do it in swap) |
| 16:58.42 | blast007 | WarPig: for PHP, try PHPStorm |
| 16:59.01 | JeffM | ahh that makes sense why they can do stuff so cheap |
| 17:02.07 | blast007 | or maybe that was the old way |
| 17:02.19 | blast007 | now they talk about something called vSwap |
| 17:04.17 | blast007 | afaik, with OpenVZ, another difference is that all the virtual environments share the host kernel |
| 17:18.43 | JeffM | well it'll still work for my testing |
| 17:22.49 | blast007 | yup |
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