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| 05:24.47 | allejo | so out of curiosity, is the reason there's no "always day" or "always night" option on the client to set the time of day because no one has written it? |
| 05:27.36 | the_map | my client is always day |
| 05:40.46 | macsforme | I just turned off lighting, so I don't have to worry about it :P |
| 05:43.05 | the_map | "the radar has day/night mode?" |
| 05:45.23 | blast007 | lighting doesn't disable the day/night cycle |
| 07:11.49 | macsforme | it disables the effect of the day/night cycle on world geometry so the lighting doesn't affect your gameplay |
| 08:35.05 | kierra | I play with it night.....but I have to make it so every time I join to play, go from obs to field or switch servers. Having it always night would be awesome. |
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| 20:20.00 | JeffM | how would you feel about letting the map set the desired sky effect? |
| 21:19.03 | allejo | i'd think letting the client have control over it would be better. maps could already control the sky to some effect with skyboxes, no? |
| 21:21.05 | JeffM | yes, but they can't control the dynamic stuff |
| 21:21.18 | JeffM | you basicly have to REPLACE the default sky witha skybox |
| 21:21.29 | JeffM | it doesn't make sense to have different clients in different times :) |
| 21:21.38 | JeffM | if a map is designed for night, it shoudl be able to force night |
| 21:21.56 | JeffM | allowing clients to set the day, is allowing the client to define an advantage over the other players |
| 21:28.18 | allejo | well clients right now are already in different times. the change for maps controlling time of day would have to wait for 2.6, no? |
| 21:28.34 | JeffM | sure I was just saying for future stuff |
| 21:28.38 | JeffM | not a change for today |
| 21:29.13 | allejo | ah, then yea i'd agree it'd be nice for the map to dictate that |
| 21:32.37 | allejo | but for 2.4, letting the client set a time of day would be possible. would there be opposition to that? |
| 21:33.32 | JeffM | I think it can already do that |
| 21:33.38 | JeffM | bzdb var for server time sync |
| 21:34.29 | allejo | my understanding is that it forces clients to use the time of the server, no? i'm talking about individual clients always having night time e.g. |
| 21:34.47 | JeffM | yeah but if you turn it OFF, then the client can set the daytime itself with the keys |
| 21:35.36 | allejo | yea they can, but it resets every time they join iirc |
| 21:37.05 | JeffM | ahh, then yeah, make a bzdb var to force a specific datetime if sync is off |
| 21:37.16 | JeffM | just makes the cheating easier :) |
| 22:16.00 | blast007 | there's already a _syncTime and _syncLocation |
| 22:16.23 | JeffM | for the server to force the time? |
| 22:16.33 | blast007 | yes |
| 22:16.50 | blast007 | and a _latitude and _logitude |
| 22:19.02 | blast007 | and _syncTime seems to be used as the epoch offset |
| 22:31.55 | blast007 | client-side has a fixedTime BZDB variable that gets used if _syncTime isn't set |
| 22:33.56 | JeffM | then there ya go |
| 22:39.02 | macsforme | how could setting the time of day "define an advantage over the other players?" |
| 22:40.03 | JeffM | if the map textures made it hard to see tanks, but at night, the tank lights made it easier |
| 22:48.24 | blast007 | macsforme: do you think the mac issue would happen with an external display on a mac min? |
| 22:48.34 | blast007 | a 2560x1440 display |
| 22:49.01 | blast007 | I'd have to get a mini-dp to dp adapter |
| 22:49.30 | Dracos85 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.58 | macsforme | I've heard there's a way to simulate a retina resolution on a non-retina display, but I don't think you can simulate retina and retina scaling at the same time |
| 22:50.10 | macsforme | so no, I don't think so |