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| 00:14.36 | Andradite | looks like almost everyone got disconnected :p |
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| 00:25.32 | Delusional | I still say the sound-level-drop-per-distance of the ping for teamflag grabs happens too quickly. You only get (something like) 50 percent volume if youâre right next to your teammate grabbing the flag. |
| 00:25.32 | Delusional | And if youâre far away it canât be heard at all, over local sounds. |
| 00:25.35 | Delusional | That sound should maybe be immune to distance considerations. |
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| 00:36.58 | allejo | any thoughts of https://snapcraft.io/ for distributing to *nix distros? |
| 00:38.13 | blast007 | doesn't that mean that then *we* have to manage security updates for libraries? |
| 00:38.50 | allejo | libraries like curl or whatever we use? don't we already for windows? |
| 00:39.08 | blast007 | (we don't) |
| 00:39.34 | blast007 | I don't currently push out a new release when there's a security issue in a library |
| 00:41.20 | allejo | for linux? or just in general |
| 00:41.37 | blast007 | Windows (and somewhat for macOS) |
| 00:41.49 | blast007 | Linux gets security updates as part of the OS |
| 00:42.15 | allejo | ah |
| 00:43.07 | blast007 | even if someone builds their own BZFlag client/server, if they're using packaged versions of curl, ares, etc, those will get updated via the normal package upgrade process |
| 00:43.43 | blast007 | Debian, for instance, will typically just backport the fix to whatever version they have in their stable repo |
| 00:44.09 | blast007 | (some exceptions are the normal browsers, since it's too complicated to backport) |
| 00:48.23 | allejo | ah because bz is just linking to those libraries, right? |
| 00:49.31 | blast007 | yup |
| 00:49.52 | blast007 | with snaps (and similar), I think it's more like static linking |
| 00:51.16 | allejo | ah |
| 00:53.09 | allejo | I'd have to look into it more. seems like it access other snaps and some OS features so not sure if that means it could be linked to OS stuff |
| 00:54.04 | blast007 | they may have a "core" set of libraries that they provide |
| 00:55.23 | allejo | yea seems like there is a core for that |
| 00:55.54 | Zehra | need admin on mofo to reset flags... |
| 00:55.59 | Zehra | green flag is stuck |
| 00:57.11 | Zehra | allejo: ty |
| 00:57.16 | allejo | np |
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| 15:57.43 | the_map | hey macsforme |
| 15:57.50 | the_map | there was this farmer that had 389 cattle |
| 15:57.57 | the_map | but he had 400 when he rounded them up |
| 16:40.14 | JeffM | if anyone has been pondering hardware upgrades in the US, walmart is offering the ryzen 1700X for 355$, and then an additional 60$ off if you pick it up in store |
| 17:02.26 | blast007 | I want a Ryzen + Vega system, but on the other hand I probably have enough computers already... |
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| 18:38.01 | JeffM | My 1700 has been quite nice, once they got the bios updates out. |
| 18:45.32 | blast007 | what I wanted to do was build a really tiny VR capable system with it |
| 18:46.00 | blast007 | though I guess I'd need to use Windows 10 then... *shudders* |
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| 20:03.24 | TD-Linux | blast007, you can always do VM passthrough, or wait for the valve stuff to land |
| 20:04.08 | blast007 | wouldn't a VM still see that it's an unsupported processor and refuse to install updates? |
| 20:05.01 | blast007 | Windows 7/8.1 will supposedly refuse to install some/all updates on a 7th gen Intel or AMD Ryzen processor |
| 20:05.22 | blast007 | been having to dodge around that at work |
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| 20:50.14 | guest3526 | I found a possible reason by why, at least partially, I was not able to get the servers list yesterday (I suppose MOTD is no being cached): I have several command lines to run my servers; some of them are for clients for the private servers, which use -nolist and -nomotd. |
| 20:50.24 | guest3526 | I guess, at some point, I switched from the public scenario to the private one (I run both at once) and, then, I was not getting the typical MOTD errors when there is not connection. Sorry for the (partial) confusion :) . |
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