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| 01:17.21 | Zehra | anyone have a recommendation for which Linux system to use? |
| 01:17.38 | the_map | yes |
| 01:21.10 | Zehra | waits for recommendation |
| 01:21.57 | Zehra | since i've seen a few screenshots from wikipedia |
| 01:22.24 | Zehra | like what is recommended for a complete newbie to Linux? |
| 01:22.58 | the_map | what kind of system do you have? |
| 01:23.18 | Zehra | i'm thinking of loading my other computer with it |
| 01:23.19 | the_map | 32 bit? 64 bit? also, how much memory? |
| 01:23.34 | Zehra | 64bit and iirc 8 GB ram |
| 01:24.16 | the_map | I would recommend Ubuntu, because that has a pretty good interface for beginners, and has a lot of support online (ie, google, irc, stack exchange, etc) |
| 01:24.39 | Zehra | ok |
| 01:25.00 | Zehra | the_map: ty |
| 01:25.06 | the_map | yw |
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| 01:40.48 | macsforme | JeffM: actually it's an NVIDIA web driver, straight from their web site... although it could theoretically still be limited by Apple's OpenGL API implementation, I suppose |
| 01:41.49 | JeffM | Oh you can get newer non apple drivers? That's cool |
| 01:43.58 | macsforme | yeah, kinda... it's a Thunderbolt eGPU with a GPU Apple doesn't ship, so it doesn't work without the web drivers |
| 01:44.16 | macsforme | the_map: don't forget to recommend the gnome flashback/fallback session :P |
| 01:45.08 | the_map | I didn't forget |
| 01:49.59 | JeffM | Oh it's external? |
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| 02:28.54 | JeffM | thunderbolt has limited PCI-E bandwith, so maybe they limit some features |
| 04:22.30 | macsforme | yes, but it's the exact same machine/GPU/setup that gets 32x MSAA in Linux |
| 04:35.46 | JeffM | that is odd |
| 04:36.01 | JeffM | must be the GL version apple picked like you said |
| 04:37.03 | JeffM | is there an OSX vulcan implementiton |
| 05:03.29 | macsforme | no, macOS now has "Metal," which is its own proprietary low-level graphics API |
| 05:23.43 | macsforme | by the way, I think I figured out a way to support MSAA in a more cross-platform way |
| 05:25.22 | macsforme | the problem now is that when we initialize an SDL context, we can ask for multisample buffers and a certain number of samples, but we don't know if we'll get multisample buffers at all nor our requested samples level |
| 05:25.58 | macsforme | I figured out a way to query the renderer in macOS, but I haven't found a good way to do it on other platforms (which is why it's specific to macOS at this point) |
| 05:30.38 | macsforme | however, if GL_ARB_framebuffer_object is present, we can query GL for MAX_SAMPLES, and then we know we can create a framebuffer with multisample renderbuffers of up to that samples level |
| 05:32.36 | macsforme | so we should be able to initialize such a framebuffer, run all of our existing drawing code, and then blit that framebuffer to the screen... so it shouldn't be too invasive |
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| 16:42.53 | allejo | blast, what did you have in mind with regards to API functions? URL wise vs events? the same? |
| 16:44.07 | allejo | i don't think there'd be any issues with two separate collections using the same URL provided there aren't any naming conflicts if you still wanna go with that |
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| 19:27.01 | Zehra | bzstocks seemed like an interesting idea |
| 19:57.17 | blast007 | allejo: I'd not think there would be naming collisions because they have to be unique in the code, no? |
| 20:11.49 | allejo | you make a good point |
| 20:15.43 | blast007 | :) |
| 20:17.04 | blast007 | macsforme: is it any different (easier/harder) if we target a newer GL version? |
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