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| 15:06.39 | Zehra | about how much space does one recording take |
| 15:06.55 | Zehra | from the record match plug-in? |
| 15:07.40 | Zehra | and about how much is the different in size when superflags or jumping is added? |
| 15:07.45 | blast007 | about as much data as what the server sends out |
| 15:07.56 | blast007 | well, and receives |
| 15:08.10 | blast007 | it's pretty close to a recording of the packet data |
| 15:08.51 | Zehra | oh ok |
| 15:09.07 | Zehra | thanks Blast007 |
| 15:09.08 | blast007 | how much space does your VPS have? |
| 15:09.24 | Zehra | i'm thinking about getting 40 GBs |
| 15:09.34 | blast007 | that should be plenty |
| 16:32.35 | JeffM | it's one player's worth of data that is sent out. so it'll be less than the full transfer |
| 16:33.07 | JeffM | the acutal server at play time sends outbound packets to all connected users, but the recording only has one set of that data |
| 16:36.29 | Zehra | oh ok |
| 16:36.57 | Zehra | so it's probably going to be a smaller file than i was thinking |
| 16:37.40 | Zehra | JeffM:ty for the added info |
| 16:37.54 | JeffM | in storage at least |
| 16:38.10 | JeffM | the playback bandwith will send out packets for each connected player |
| 16:38.27 | JeffM | so if you record a 1v1 match, you'll save one set of packets for each player |
| 16:38.46 | JeffM | but if you play the recording and 100 people watch it, you'll send out 100 times the data |
| 16:41.19 | allejo | the largest replay I've got is ~16MB and that's a replay for T-roy's memorial event |
| 16:41.30 | allejo | Riker cup replays are about that size as well |
| 16:44.22 | blast007 | yeah, sorry, that's what I meant, though it's *slightly* more than one player's data since it includes all players, not everyone except you. |
| 16:44.34 | JeffM | true |
| 16:44.58 | JeffM | its 1 copy of each unique packet |
| 16:45.13 | JeffM | and a timestamp |
| 16:45.22 | blast007 | and hopefully excludes stuff like the world transfer :) |
| 16:45.51 | JeffM | it should actualy be all the packets one single observer receives |
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| 18:29.24 | Zehra | btw what is a good C++ compiler which is command line for windows? |
| 19:33.51 | blast007 | why would you want command line for Windows? |
| 19:34.44 | blast007 | Why would you want a command line compiler for Windows, that is. |
| 19:36.23 | Zehra | i'm reading a book for C++ and it recommends a command line compiler |
| 19:38.02 | Zehra | i might be able to write a few simple plug-ins if i learn enough |
| 19:39.25 | blast007 | is this book from 1998? |
| 19:41.27 | Zehra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.29 | blast007 | just get Visual Studio Community 2015, which is what we support for BZFlag on Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48146 |
| 19:42.08 | Zehra | ok |
| 19:42.13 | blast007 | (either the .exe for a web install so you can pick out the pieces to install, or the ISO to download it all upfront) |
| 19:45.10 | Zehra | i just hope compiling anything doesn't slow my computer too much |
| 19:45.19 | blast007 | what? |
| 19:45.32 | blast007 | of course it will |
| 19:45.39 | Zehra | mine is 2GB ram and low specs =P |
| 19:45.40 | blast007 | compiling is going to use your CPU |
| 19:45.49 | blast007 | how wouldn't it slow it down? |
| 19:46.21 | Zehra | i had a desktop which had much better specs than the laptop i'm using atm |
| 19:48.26 | Zehra | bad part is desktop died |
| 19:52.14 | blast007 | $200 gets you a refurbished 4C/8T Xeon, 12GB RAM, 250GB disk, with Windows 7 |
| 19:53.09 | Zehra | sweet |
| 19:55.31 | Zehra | will probably be buying it |
| 19:56.13 | blast007 | https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC0F54X9853 |
| 19:56.51 | blast007 | dunno if the power supply in that has PCIe connectors, so you may or may not be able to put a bit beefier GPU in there |
| 19:57.13 | Zehra | i |
| 19:57.26 | Zehra | i'll probably be checking it out* |
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| 20:32.08 | JeffM | Zehra: just installing an IDE won't slow the computer down |
| 20:32.15 | JeffM | compiling takes time, just like any action |
| 20:32.36 | JeffM | but I doubt you'll be making anything too large at first so it should not be an issue |
| 20:33.08 | JeffM | and yes, just use visual studio and make projects for stuff instead of command line |
| 20:33.52 | JeffM | but if you really DO want to learn a skill that will be mostly useless for windows development, you can go through the pain of installing minGW and get a crappy command line compiler on windows |
| 20:34.11 | JeffM | if the book is talored to linux, run a linux VM in windows, it's way easier. |
| 20:37.40 | Zehra | JeffM:thanks for the advice |
| 20:39.20 | Zehra | it seems like almost every document is designed for linux |
| 20:39.30 | JeffM | nope |
| 20:39.37 | JeffM | probably just the ones you looked for |
| 20:40.16 | JeffM | what did you search for? |
| 20:41.26 | Zehra | C++ a beginners guide |
| 20:41.37 | Zehra | it says second edition |
| 20:42.29 | JeffM | it's probalby meant to be very generic and not OS specifcic |
| 20:43.22 | JeffM | but it is from 2003 |
| 20:43.29 | JeffM | so almost 15 years old |
| 20:44.23 | Zehra | time flies |
| 20:44.32 | JeffM | you may want to start with something like this http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ |
| 20:44.42 | JeffM | it has a section that describes compilers |
| 20:44.51 | JeffM | and has a sub section on various OS specific compilers |
| 20:46.31 | blast007 | so I wasn't far off with my 1998 comment ;) |
| 20:46.42 | JeffM | only like 5 years |
| 20:47.23 | JeffM | if it was published in 2003, that means it was writen from 2000 to 2002, using experience from 1995 to 2000 |
| 20:49.41 | blast007 | wonder if it covers Borland C++ and their OWL UI toolkit |
| 20:49.50 | JeffM | such ugly checkboxes! |
| 20:50.00 | JeffM | green OK, red cancel |
| 20:50.24 | blast007 | 'tis what I started on, in 2000. It was great building Windows 3.1 software on Windows 2000. |
| 20:50.57 | blast007 | then a friend brought in a copy of Visual C++ 6.0 :P |
| 20:51.01 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:51.18 | JeffM | I used to do all kinds of cool stuff in MFC on VC4.2 |
| 20:51.29 | JeffM | even wrote a texture mapper for a class. |
| 20:51.37 | JeffM | all that knowlege is now gone |
| 20:51.42 | JeffM | replaced by .net |
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