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| 00:28.16 | kierra | Who knew snake would be replaced so thoroughly |
| 00:40.15 | JeffM | Zehra: are you an instructor or art critic using a peice for review? |
| 00:42.02 | JeffM | wishes his needing to pack was an april fools joke :( |
| 00:42.27 | JeffM | I did find a valid windows 7 license stuck in the middle of all my DVDs :) |
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| 01:18.34 | Zehra | JeffM: i currently am not in the profession of art critic or instructor |
| 01:19.10 | JeffM | then you would not be able to take advantage of fair use laws in the united states :) |
| 01:19.18 | JeffM | "i could download it" is not fair use |
| 01:19.32 | Zehra | meh =P |
| 01:19.51 | Zehra | needs to find another law to support their claim of fair use |
| 01:20.43 | JeffM | you won't |
| 01:21.08 | Zehra | i used to be good with technicalities at one point |
| 01:22.29 | Zehra | seems age catches up with time =P |
| 01:38.33 | JeffM | no vesion of fair use allows republishing |
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| 01:45.49 | Zehra | true, but the basic idea can be used in theory |
| 01:45.54 | Zehra | like with an engine |
| 01:46.01 | Zehra | someone can make a gas engine |
| 01:46.21 | Zehra | i can copy the idea of the engine and implement it as a steam engine |
| 01:46.29 | Zehra | or an electric one |
| 01:47.59 | blast007 | that's not copyright, that's patents |
| 01:52.21 | Zehra | oops |
| 01:53.04 | Zehra | needs to verify their info before making statements |
| 01:53.18 | spldart | Why is Edison and Tesla running through my head now ;) |
| 01:56.28 | Zehra | rofl |
| 01:57.33 | spldart | Is this all over a texture or model being submitted without permission? |
| 01:58.16 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.21 | JeffM | No it I |
| 01:58.29 | spldart | Oh! |
| 01:58.58 | spldart | Naughty to re-use without permission. |
| 01:59.04 | Zehra | thinks using the options of a map isn't a big deal |
| 01:59.13 | blast007 | what do you mean by "options"? |
| 01:59.45 | Zehra | like the +j, -set _tankSpeed |
| 01:59.50 | spldart | Design you own options for the 'world physics' and 'game rules |
| 01:59.52 | spldart | ' |
| 02:00.15 | Zehra | well some of the options are very nice from some maps |
| 02:00.38 | Zehra | technically this shouldn't be much of an issue as i think it could.... |
| 02:00.39 | spldart | Just play with the variables till you got something you really like for your unique map. |
| 02:01.03 | Zehra | i'm thinking of the amount of /sets i'd have to do |
| 02:02.22 | Zehra | and generally there's quite a few which are around |
| 02:02.29 | blast007 | "I want everyone else to do the work for me" |
| 02:02.55 | spldart | Ok... Pain in the butt setting you options after you set your random or custom map. But once done your done ;) |
| 02:03.13 | Zehra | well, if it's already done, then why do it again... |
| 02:03.30 | Zehra | no need to reinvent the wheel once again =P |
| 02:04.04 | blast007 | the wheel has actually been reinvented alot |
| 02:04.14 | spldart | Frankly... I had a blast setting up my WarTowers map. And I had no problem asking Louman for permissions when I borrowed from him on others. Just give props to the person who created it. |
| 02:04.29 | spldart | Never claim anything you didn't build yourself. |
| 02:04.58 | Zehra | some things really can't be claimed as original |
| 02:05.14 | Zehra | like lets say i add no acceleration limits |
| 02:05.53 | Zehra | it's an option which is well known and probably no one would say i invented acceleration limits |
| 02:06.04 | Zehra | the options are like the color on a car |
| 02:06.18 | Zehra | someone can say they made the car |
| 02:06.30 | spldart | Ok. You decide one variable = 0 and that happens to match some other random server. Your right there. |
| 02:06.32 | Zehra | but unless it's some highly custom color |
| 02:07.00 | Zehra | it's not violating copyrights... |
| 02:07.04 | Zehra | i think =P |
| 02:07.04 | spldart | But are you xeroxing a whole set of variables for a map? |
| 02:07.34 | Zehra | probably many would have to be altered to create a new set |
| 02:07.39 | spldart | ooOOoo ... color is a good one |
| 02:07.41 | Zehra | so it wouldn't be a direct copy |
| 02:08.08 | Zehra | it's like you mixed paint and came up with a new color or something |
| 02:08.37 | Zehra | you wouldn't be saying this color belongs to so and so.. |
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| 02:08.46 | blast007 | just tweak the variables. it's not hard. |
| 02:09.36 | spldart | yeah! that!... I was trying to figure how to say |
| 02:10.14 | Zehra | nice part is it works easily for options like /set |
| 02:10.14 | spldart | Just don't xerox someone elses work. |
| 02:10.40 | Zehra | yup |
| 02:11.18 | Zehra | btw |
| 02:11.27 | Zehra | is there a slash command to add flags |
| 02:11.38 | Zehra | bc iirc there isn't |
| 02:12.01 | Zehra | like /set add geno or laser |
| 02:12.21 | spldart | I only remember a map admin can reset flags... |
| 02:12.36 | Zehra | =P |
| 02:12.41 | spldart | Not change them or add them without restarting server (after edit |
| 02:12.54 | spldart | But I'm old school. |
| 02:13.05 | spldart | that info could be out of date. |
| 02:13.27 | Zehra | i've seen quite a bit of changes |
| 02:13.38 | spldart | indeed |
| 02:14.00 | spldart | And I haven't hosted maps in years :/ |
| 02:14.37 | spldart | hopes to change that soon :) |
| 02:14.52 | Zehra | same here =) |
| 02:15.13 | Zehra | if all goes well... |
| 02:15.22 | spldart | same here ;) |
| 02:15.29 | Zehra | i should be ready soon with a server |
| 02:15.35 | Zehra | and maps =) |
| 02:15.47 | spldart | Well... Good luck to you 8) |
| 02:16.01 | blast007 | an unlisted server |
| 02:16.18 | spldart | ooooo... Modified game play/? |
| 02:16.41 | Zehra | i could modify it via plug-in |
| 02:16.48 | spldart | Mod client/server proto break kinda thing? |
| 02:16.49 | Zehra | tbh no list keys |
| 02:17.12 | Zehra | still a private server which is unlisted is better than none :) |
| 02:17.15 | spldart | oh |
| 02:17.25 | Zehra | when it happens ;) |
| 02:17.49 | Zehra | if i learn C++ i might be able to make mods to it |
| 02:17.50 | blast007 | a plugin which you'll have other people make for you because you don't want to do any of that work either |
| 02:18.28 | spldart | Oh wait.. This was some sort of pipe drea..... Uhm... |
| 02:18.34 | Zehra | i sadly have no programming knowledge to make it... |
| 02:18.51 | Zehra | depends if i take the time to really figure and work things out... |
| 02:19.51 | spldart | Well. Until you learn some code and can break proto and host and advertise your own ver you could stay in the rules and give props where necessary and host public on bzflag list server ;O |
| 02:20.02 | spldart | s/;o/;) |
| 02:20.41 | Zehra | public would be nice, but it's not the best option when a server is being started... |
| 02:21.02 | Zehra | still a lot of things to work out and learn on mastering BZFS |
| 02:21.03 | spldart | Really? |
| 02:21.34 | Zehra | it would be bad if people joined and it crashed =P |
| 02:21.38 | blast007 | no, still needs a key for the current configuration |
| 02:21.50 | spldart | You got all the expertise you could ever want right here in this channel |
| 02:21.51 | blast007 | Zehra: what? |
| 02:22.02 | blast007 | spldart: plz no |
| 02:22.08 | blast007 | :P |
| 02:22.11 | spldart | oh |
| 02:22.12 | spldart | :( |
| 02:22.28 | Zehra | i could do very badly in configs and mess it up so badly so people couldn't spawn =P |
| 02:22.46 | Zehra | so unlisted for now |
| 02:22.49 | blast007 | generally that's just when you add too many flags |
| 02:23.04 | blast007 | you will never get a key |
| 02:23.14 | Zehra | =( |
| 02:23.26 | Zehra | wonders if that changes in 10 years |
| 02:23.41 | spldart | Everything changes in 10 years |
| 02:23.55 | blast007 | what, when you're 40 instead of 30? |
| 02:24.32 | Zehra | lots of things are based on impressions |
| 02:25.18 | Zehra | and some were not the best ones given =P |
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| 02:38.02 | sk8 | yo |
| 02:40.06 | blast007 | hi |
| 02:40.09 | spldart | mmhrm... |
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| 02:43.15 | Zehra | hi sk8 |
| 02:46.29 | spldart | ping |
| 02:46.38 | blast007 | pong |
| 02:46.49 | spldart | XD |
| 02:47.30 | spldart | Well... You do respond to my ping -c 2 ######## |
| 02:50.57 | spldart | packets sent, non received ;~) |
| 02:51.26 | spldart | I'm in such a good mood... Tired but good. :) |
| 02:57.37 | Foo_man_choo | O_o o_O |
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| 03:35.11 | the_map | you playing Go Fish with nicks, to see which one works? :P |
| 03:36.23 | short_circuit | iz rejecting my fav |
| 03:36.55 | Foo_man_choo | THERE WE GO! |
| 03:38.03 | Foo_man_choo | does the stanky leg and the dab |
| 03:38.46 | Foo_man_choo | See... Already clearing the room with my 'stank' |
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| 03:58.34 | cmhobbs | is there anyone around that can help with accounts on the forums? |
| 03:58.59 | cmhobbs | i have an old account there and i'd like to use the name again but i haven't signed in in years and i can't remember the email i used for the life of me |
| 04:08.53 | BulletCatcher | blast007 may be able to help with that, but he may be AFK for another 8 hours or so. |
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| 21:31.28 | TheRedBaron | blast007: you are a bad man |
| 21:32.41 | the_map | do tell? did you check the bzflag news page today? |
| 21:33.17 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: thank you :) |
| 21:37.49 | TheRedBaron | blast007: How pleased with yourself are you? |
| 21:41.48 | JeffM | it was a good idea |
| 21:45.42 | the_map | I like how you uploaded a picture of packing |
| 21:45.57 | JeffM | ohhhh I wish that was april fools |
| 21:46.02 | JeffM | I am still packing |
| 21:46.05 | JeffM | I move on the 15th |
| 21:46.14 | JeffM | sooooo much crap |
| 21:46.41 | JeffM | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fkgCibAI/1491169597.JPG |
| 21:47.17 | Foo_man_choo | You call that 'soooo much crap'?! |
| 21:47.42 | Foo_man_choo | *hopefully moving soon too* |
| 21:47.50 | the_map | I mean, if that's all just junk to you, I can take care of some of that for you... |
| 21:47.51 | JeffM | no, thats just what is next to me |
| 21:48.05 | JeffM | no that's what I'm keeping |
| 21:48.11 | the_map | aww :( |
| 21:48.21 | JeffM | I seem to be getting rid of about 1/3 of my stuff this time |
| 21:48.36 | Foo_man_choo | #/me just rescued 2 grand in tools and his long guns from storage this weekend. |
| 21:48.39 | JeffM | tho it'll probalby be less, I have a set of cabinents to sort and I know most of that will stay |
| 21:48.51 | JeffM | I have all my dads tools in the garage |
| 21:48.57 | JeffM | I need to get them ready to go |
| 21:49.10 | JeffM | thankfully the new garage is slightly larger |
| 21:49.18 | JeffM | entire house will be larger |
| 21:49.44 | the_map | can you print a working plane with the 3D printer? |
| 21:49.52 | JeffM | yes |
| 21:49.58 | JeffM | but foam is better |
| 21:50.02 | Foo_man_choo | God I hope this little 2 bdrm in the heights comes through. |
| 21:50.07 | JeffM | thats only one of the printers |
| 21:50.31 | JeffM | I'm moving into a town house, 4 bedrooms |
| 21:50.32 | the_map | dude, if you need to get rid of anything... :) |
| 21:50.45 | JeffM | girlfriend is moving from her apt into it too |
| 21:50.53 | JeffM | so we have some duplicate stuff |
| 21:51.17 | JeffM | I already did a purge of the planes when I cleaned out my dad's house |
| 21:51.22 | JeffM | I had to leave a bunch there |
| 21:51.31 | JeffM | but they were given to his local flying club |
| 21:51.36 | JeffM | so they went to good homes |
| 21:51.39 | Foo_man_choo | Oh! Oculus... funny. ;) |
| 21:51.44 | JeffM | I just kept the ones I'd have a chance fo flying |
| 21:52.01 | the_map | what, foo? |
| 21:52.16 | Foo_man_choo | blast apr jest |
| 21:52.16 | JeffM | he just realised the april fools joke |
| 21:52.41 | blast007 | the initial idea wasn't mine |
| 21:52.45 | Foo_man_choo | Kinda packing too so hadn't kept up. |
| 21:52.45 | the_map | I was like 84% sure it was that |
| 21:53.04 | blast007 | I just took it to the next level, and then JeffM made edits to the press release so it sounded like a proper press release |
| 21:53.14 | Foo_man_choo | You wouldn't believe all the tools I have under the bed right now 8O |
| 21:53.23 | the_map | who had the original idea? |
| 21:53.28 | Foo_man_choo | Yah guys did good |
| 21:53.37 | blast007 | Constitution and another user |
| 21:54.41 | blast007 | the initial idea was just to reskin the weblogin to say it was moving to Facebook logins |
| 21:55.06 | the_map | more than one way to skin a site |
| 21:55.06 | JeffM | how many sites actualy use that thing? |
| 21:55.13 | blast007 | at least two |
| 21:55.21 | blast007 | strayer's site and the league |
| 21:57.08 | blast007 | so for those who missed that, it look like this: http://static.bzexcess.com/april1login.png (and I probably still had the bad grammar in there too. "We will be gradually migrate...") |
| 21:57.46 | Foo_man_choo | XD |
| 22:10.58 | JeffM | tries to remember why he has a front seat from a 1985 BMW 3 series in his office |
