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| 16:23.50 | JeffM | is zehra banned from the list server? |
| 16:26.20 | blast007 | no |
| 16:26.38 | blast007 | he plays the game authed just fine |
| 16:29.26 | JeffM | I was curious if the plug-in request was to get around some kind of ban :) |
| 16:41.12 | blast007 | it's probably to get around his inability to get a server key |
| 16:44.14 | JeffM | a reasonable request |
| 16:44.34 | JeffM | really there isn't any reason the server can't just always try to validate users with tokens. |
| 16:44.43 | JeffM | no harm in it |
| 16:51.21 | blast007 | I'm just not sure if that kind of thing will work in whatever system we replace IP-assigned tokens with |
| 16:55.40 | JeffM | are you going to desupport the weblogin? |
| 16:55.49 | JeffM | or make the game use a different system than it? |
| 16:55.56 | blast007 | that might change |
| 16:56.31 | JeffM | as long as you support some kind of weblogin/auth then the game can do the same thing wiht out being public. |
| 16:57.20 | blast007 | not necessarily |
| 16:57.43 | JeffM | well if the game uses a different token system that is |
| 16:57.58 | JeffM | or there arn't really "tokens" |
| 16:58.11 | blast007 | like, if we used OAuth2 for the web stuff, that wouldn't be what the game uses |
| 16:58.36 | JeffM | yeah that's do it |
| 16:58.59 | JeffM | tho, could just implement OAuth2 in game too |
| 16:59.11 | JeffM | then there would only be one protocol to maintain |
| 16:59.12 | blast007 | I'd just rather not add the feature now when in the next major release we're gonna have to gut the system and redo it |
| 16:59.22 | JeffM | sure |
| 16:59.37 | blast007 | we really should be supporting IPv6 :) |
| 17:01.55 | JeffM | wait and see if it holds up |
| 17:02.06 | JeffM | bzflag is all about stable APIs |
| 17:02.12 | JeffM | thats why it uses GL 1.2 |
| 17:02.24 | JeffM | 1.3 is just too new |
| 17:03.54 | blast007 | technically we may be 1.3 now, since we support multisampling on some platforms :) |
| 17:04.15 | JeffM | only via an extension IIRC |
| 17:04.27 | JeffM | GLEW manages that right? |
| 17:05.15 | blast007 | SDL_GL_SetAttribute(SDL_GL_MULTISAMPLESAMPLES, samples > 0 ? samples : 0); |
| 17:05.20 | blast007 | we don't use GLEW anymore |
| 17:06.05 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:06.17 | blast007 | we had been using GLEW to check for a single extension, so we replaced it with a simple check instead of pulling in the whole GLEW |
| 17:06.22 | JeffM | that will probalby use 1.2 and an extension if that's all it had. |
| 17:06.41 | JeffM | not that anyone has a 1.2 only driver ;) |
| 17:07.28 | blast007 | I still write all the bits out by hand for my Windows 98 SE machine |
| 17:08.24 | JeffM | magnets! |
| 17:08.42 | blast007 | I use trained butterflies |
| 17:11.57 | JeffM | I use social engineering to affect how you train the butteflys to add in vulnerabiities |
| 17:12.29 | blast007 | I have decoy butterflies |
| 17:13.13 | blast007 | or something |
| 17:13.16 | blast007 | :P |
| 17:13.31 | JeffM | are they in a honeypot? |
| 17:13.46 | blast007 | I tried that, but they kept getting stuck in the honey |
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| 19:47.33 | JeffM | house hunting sucks..... |
| 20:07.37 | blast007 | the worst part is having to drag it out of the woods once you get one |
| 20:07.55 | JeffM | yeah, wont' fit on the hood of a truck |
| 20:08.34 | JeffM | but if I can get one in a place that has 150/150 internets :) |
| 20:09.19 | blast007 | that's more bandwidth than I have at work for 800+ users :) |
| 20:09.28 | JeffM | yeah me too |
| 20:09.39 | blast007 | (though we going 1Gbps soon) |
| 20:11.49 | JeffM | if I can get it, i'll do it, should be like 90$ a month and include TV stuff the pretty lady wants. |
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| 22:12.42 | BulletCatcher | I suggest implementing our next authentication system as a plugin. |
| 22:12.43 | BulletCatcher | Then it will be even easier to implement the one after that. |
| 22:13.02 | JeffM | on both the client and server side? |
| 22:13.25 | BulletCatcher | Hmm. I was just thinking about the server. |
| 22:14.13 | BulletCatcher | We'd have to create a client-side plugin system if we wanted to make that modular, too. |
| 22:14.13 | JeffM | server for sure, but if the input from the client needs to chagne, you'll need some way to insert new code into that workflow |
| 22:14.21 | JeffM | or scripting system |
| 22:14.48 | JeffM | the vast majority of bzfs functions could/should be modularized into plugin like things |
| 22:14.54 | JeffM | like every / command |
| 22:15.05 | BulletCatcher | every flag, etc. |
| 22:15.16 | JeffM | every blade of grass! |
| 22:15.37 | JeffM | or does that oops the oop? |
| 22:16.00 | BulletCatcher | Yeah, you've gone too far again. |
| 22:16.17 | JeffM | I have played god and been burned by the fires of heaven |
| 22:17.12 | JeffM | learn form my mistakes.... |
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| 22:32.49 | the_map | *JeffM is now known as Icarus |
| 22:33.30 | JeffM | no, the sun is not heaven, it's a ball of fusionable hydrogen |
| 22:33.41 | JeffM | atomic fire in the sky |
| 22:34.53 | the_map | "ok, how about "Poseidon" then?" "No, go fish" |
| 22:36.27 | JeffM | I am a Jedi |
| 22:36.50 | the_map | Jedi Jar-Jar! how youussa been? |
| 22:37.12 | JeffM | so racist |
| 22:37.18 | the_map | I heard you were betrayed by gollum |
| 22:37.32 | JeffM | they did finaly put a cannon ending to jar jar |
| 22:37.47 | JeffM | he ends up a lbind clown on some backwater planet |
| 22:39.19 | the_map | oh, with the klingons? |
| 22:39.34 | JeffM | no, they were retconed out |
| 22:41.29 | JeffM | why do people need lights on RAM? |
| 22:42.11 | the_map | because it's illegal to drive a vehicle without lights |
| 22:42.27 | JeffM | https://promotions.newegg.com/corsair/17-1764/index.html?cm_sp=Homepage-Top2016-_-P5_corsair%2f17-1764-_-%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fcorsair%2f17-1764%2f1920x360.jpg&icid=391736 |
| 22:52.26 | blast007 | hides his computer that has lights on the RAM |
| 22:53.10 | blast007 | though mine is just a white LED that barely shows |
| 22:53.47 | blast007 | my keyboard, mouse, and GPU have RGB lights |
| 22:57.15 | blast007 | I also don't see how a plugin based authentication system really solves the problem. You'd still have to have matching server/client/services for it to work together. |
