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| 19:29.43 | blast007 | http://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm#e20170301-tg_wlog-10 Is this actually problematic or is the author exagerating the issue? |
| 19:34.41 | JeffM | its an overreaction |
| 19:35.03 | JeffM | basicly github says "you can't sue us for hosting conent that viloates a license, that's your deal" |
| 19:35.47 | JeffM | the article doesn't actualy cite any sections other than "D" |
| 19:36.24 | JeffM | the waiver of attribution rights for instnace, you ONLY waive them against github |
| 19:36.44 | JeffM | it's not githubs job to provide the attribution the author wants, it's the repo manager |
| 19:37.10 | JeffM | "However, you waive these rights and agree not to assert them against us, " |
| 19:37.15 | allejo | exaggeration |
| 19:37.21 | JeffM | that's not the same as dissallowing attribution |
| 19:37.32 | JeffM | that's just putting the onus on the project not the hoster |
| 19:38.02 | JeffM | the TOS is all "you grant GITHUB...." |
| 19:39.14 | allejo | kinda like file hosts say they're not responsible for illegal files uploaded by users, no? |
| 19:39.44 | JeffM | yeah, it's like he didn't read the ENTIRE part of each section |
| 19:39.56 | JeffM | "If you set your pages and repositories to be viewed publicly, you grant each User of GitHub a nonexclusive, worldwide license to access your Content through the GitHub Service, and to use, display and perform your Content, and to reproduce your Content solely on GitHub as permitted through GitHub's functionality. You may grant further rights if you adopt a |
| 19:39.56 | JeffM | license." |
| 19:40.09 | JeffM | he took that to mean "you can't apply restrictions" |
| 19:40.17 | JeffM | yet it states you can apply a licnese |
| 19:40.50 | JeffM | because what that secion says is "You must allow people to use github if you post publicly on github because github isn't going to do your BS restrictions like 'no war'" |
| 19:41.18 | blast007 | "can not be used for evil" |
| 19:41.52 | JeffM | yeah, github can't enforce that, so if you USE github, your license must be compatible with the use cases github provides, as in "can view the content" |
| 19:42.00 | JeffM | it does not imply useage |
| 19:42.13 | JeffM | "By setting your repositories to be viewed publicly, you agree to allow others to view and "fork" your repositories (this means that others may make their own copies of your Content in repositories they control)." |
| 19:42.16 | blast007 | http://www.json.org/license.html "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil." (I was close) |
| 19:42.21 | JeffM | is that person a crackpot? |
| 19:42.31 | JeffM | because they clearly don't understand licensing |
| 19:43.41 | JeffM | the only way to have full controll over your hosting provider is to provide your own hosting |
| 19:43.53 | allejo | agrees with jeff's inquiry |
| 19:44.55 | JeffM | D6 should cover all user concerns, evertthing else in the D section is to protect Github |
| 19:46.31 | allejo | <3s github |
| 19:47.14 | JeffM | now the things they put in that TOS makes it clear they would prefer copyright assingment for each proejct |
| 19:47.26 | JeffM | and some people don't like that |
| 19:51.57 | allejo | i.e. all contributors hand over their copyright for their contributions to the project's copyright holder? |
| 19:52.13 | JeffM | yes |
| 19:52.24 | JeffM | things are much simpler when there is a single enitity that owns it all |
| 19:52.34 | allejo | prevents situations like VLC... |
| 19:52.36 | JeffM | then you don't have to deal with individual attributions all over |
| 19:53.46 | JeffM | the best thing for github would be BSD with a single author |
| 19:54.53 | JeffM | github and really any "source" repository isn't really setup for the CC licenses |
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