| 00:00.14 | blast007 | allejo: when you download the macOS zip, does it open the zip file automatically? and is that only in Safari? |
| 00:00.47 | allejo | safari |
| 00:02.17 | blast007 | so does this sound reasonable? "Download the latest release for macOS. Open the Zip file if it does not open automatically. Drag BZFlag into your Applications folder." |
| 00:02.26 | blast007 | I'll mention brew cask below that |
| 00:03.25 | allejo | JeffM, oh I could see that. can the handicaps be set through bzdb variables or something or are the relative of the speeds/shots static? |
| 00:03.33 | allejo | yea that sounds fine to me, blast |
| 00:04.06 | JeffM | allejo: dunno |
| 00:11.48 | JeffM | allejo: yes, StateDatabase::BZDB_HANDICAPVELAD StateDatabase::BZDB_HANDICAPANGAD BZDB.eval(StateDatabase::BZDB_HANDICAPSHOTAD |
| 00:12.33 | JeffM | _handicapVelAd , _handicapAngAd, _handicapShotAd |
| 00:13.01 | blast007 | there is a fourth one that is used for some of the calculations on the server dealing with the score difference |
| 00:13.13 | JeffM | yes, but the plugin can override that logic |
| 00:13.22 | JeffM | if the API was implemented |
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| 00:33.06 | guest3647 | blast007: then it is not possible to assign the server key just to a registered user? (I think another user just used an IP which seemed to be dynamic like mine) |
| 00:33.49 | blast007 | so you're planning to host from your home connection? |
| 00:34.25 | guest3647 | maybe, I'm not sure still but wanted to start asking for key for now |
| 00:34.54 | blast007 | please just ask for a key when you're *ready* for hosting |
| 00:35.28 | blast007 | how much upstream bandwidth do you have at home? |
| 00:35.58 | guest3647 | 600 Kb |
| 00:37.17 | blast007 | a $5/month VPS from Digital Ocean would have 1 Gbps (though probably not guaranteed, but still far more than that) |
| 00:38.43 | guest3647 | I think mine will be enough :) |
| 00:39.22 | guest3647 | but it is *possible* to assign it to a reg. player, right? |
| 00:39.33 | blast007 | well, in any case, you either need a static IP, or a Dynamic DNS service that gives you a hostname |
| 00:39.43 | blast007 | *all* keys are assigned to a registered player |
| 00:39.59 | blast007 | but they only work for a single assigned IP or hostname |
| 00:41.27 | guest3647 | if I get it well, when my dynamic IP changes, I just have to login into services and get a new one? |
| 00:41.42 | blast007 | no, I would have to give you a new one |
| 00:41.46 | blast007 | not happening |
| 00:42.11 | blast007 | use something like this: http://www.noip.com/free |
| 00:42.15 | guest3647 | why there was a player using an IP and seems it was dynamic? |
| 00:42.24 | blast007 | there wasn't |
| 00:42.41 | blast007 | you are mistaken |
| 00:43.10 | guest3647 | ah must be static then, okay I will check that link |
| 00:43.22 | guest3647 | thanks |
| 00:44.02 | blast007 | you can also register a domain name. namecheap, at least, offers Dynamic DNS service for DNS records. |
| 00:44.38 | guest3647 | yes, okay |
| 00:45.18 | blast007 | and there's also this: http://freedns.afraid.org/ |
| 00:45.43 | guest3647 | thank you |
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| 02:15.44 | Zehra | spam |
| 02:15.51 | Zehra | https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?t=19381 |
| 02:16.07 | Zehra | https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19382 |
| 02:20.00 | Zehra | BulletCatcher:ty |
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| 03:30.19 | BZnotify | [13bzflag.org] 15blast007 pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://git.io/vD7qX |
| 03:30.19 | BZnotify | 13bzflag.org/06master 14988f15d 15Scott Wichser: Add install instructions for macOS and Linux. |
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| 03:31.31 | blast007 | not 100% sure I have all the linux commands right |
| 03:31.49 | blast007 | and have no idea what to say for *BSD, if anything |
| 03:35.31 | allejo | would you want API docs in the updated site too? |
| 03:35.46 | allejo | https://github.com/allejo/bzflagPluginStarter2/tree/master/_events |
| 03:35.57 | allejo | cuz I've got all of that API events |
| 03:38.24 | blast007 | yes |
| 03:38.37 | blast007 | I'd like there to be different documentation sections |
| 03:38.47 | blast007 | the getting started page is just the first one I'm doing |
| 03:39.16 | allejo | neat, cuz those files would just need some minor reformating and possibly updates but the bulk of the data for events is there |
| 03:39.20 | blast007 | I'd like there to be end-user documentation and developer documentation, at least |
| 03:39.31 | allejo | config docs too? |
| 03:39.44 | blast007 | config as in what? |
| 03:39.49 | allejo | client config |
| 03:39.58 | blast007 | like, hand editing? |
| 03:40.02 | allejo | yea |
| 03:40.04 | blast007 | no |
| 03:40.21 | allejo | mkay |
| 03:40.32 | blast007 | we should not require hand editing a config file, nor should hand editing a config file provide any extra features or ranges |
| 03:41.15 | allejo | sounds reasonable |
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| 13:21.45 | Delusional | you know what would make a really nice feature for mappers? Overlaying the number of each teleporter link onto each teleporter so you can tell which is which easily. |
| 13:22.12 | Delusional | I think that might be a good feature for players too, with the ability to see the link table. |
| 13:36.46 | the_map | unless the links are random, in which case it kills the mystery |
| 13:37.58 | blast007 | Delusional: you mean in-game? or in the editor? |
| 13:38.17 | blast007 | it would have more use in an editor |
| 13:39.35 | blast007 | but then you really don't need it because your editor can just highlight the linked teleporters |
| 14:00.34 | Delusional | in-game. I donât use an editor |
| 14:04.43 | Delusional | bzedit can display links? i didnât know that. I might find a use for it after all. |
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| 14:35.20 | blast007 | I think bzeditw32 had a visual representation of it |
| 14:35.29 | blast007 | and in any case, I said "can" not "does" :) |
| 14:35.49 | blast007 | map authors should get the info they need right from the editor |
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| 21:24.12 | macsforme | so it looks like I was wrong about the SDL joystick code creating a dead zone... while there is a dead zone, it appears that it's based on the mousebox dead zone size and it's calculated in playing.cxx (not in platform) |
| 21:24.29 | blast007 | ah |
| 21:24.59 | macsforme | SDL platform code does appear to do some kind of exponential scaling, if I'm reading this correctly: https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/blob/2.4/src/platform/SDLJoystick.cxx#L92-L97 |
| 21:27.11 | macsforme | but notwithstanding that, with my configuration at least, the game controller reaches maximum rotation speed (X axis) at about 9%, and maximum forward speed (Y axis) at about 15%, so a lot of precision is entirely lost |
| 21:28.53 | blast007 | is the joystick stuff basing it on the size of the outer mousebox? |
| 21:29.04 | macsforme | I have to dig deeper to see if that's dependent on the mousebox size also... but this appears to be far from ideal |
| 21:30.41 | macsforme | it looks like they are probably related: https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/blob/2.4/src/bzflag/playing.cxx#L909-L946 |
| 21:35.25 | JeffM | yeah bxflag doesn't do sensitivity, the mouseboxes set some odd scaling |
| 21:35.31 | JeffM | I don' t like it |
| 21:35.33 | macsforme | it seems to me that the joystick reading should just directly set your fractional driving speed or rotation... anyone agree/disagree on that? |
| 21:37.15 | macsforme | I could see perhaps scaling it so it's more sensitive either toward the center or toward the edges, but I would have to play with it (probably for a while) to see if there's any benefit to that |
| 21:39.07 | JeffM | thats what axis curves are in the OSs stick profile are for |
| 21:45.39 | macsforme | that's a thing? :P |
| 21:46.03 | JeffM | if the stick supports it |
| 21:46.35 | macsforme | I have a fancy one that works with macs and iToys... it's so fancy, it doesn't work with any other operating systems (I don't think) |
| 21:46.52 | macsforme | but it's quite so fancy as to have controls like that |
| 21:50.40 | macsforme | it looks like the mouse reaches maximum reverse speed halfway to the bottom of the box, rather than at the bottom edge of it, so it's a uniform scale |
| 21:53.12 | JeffM | thats because reverse speed is 1/2 forward but acceleration is constant |
| 21:55.43 | macsforme | yes |
| 22:36.20 | macsforme | what's the timeframe for 2.4.10? I might try to fix this in the next day or two if we could get it in |
| 22:37.30 | blast007 | we can wait for that to get fixed |