| 00:03.36 | macsforme | Zehra: why are you deleting pages and redirecting them? |
| 00:04.54 | Zehra | sometimes the content is outdated or obsolete |
| 00:05.54 | Zehra | i'm not sure if it's helping cleanup the wiki or not |
| 00:06.45 | Zehra | although most of the pages had content which was related to a website |
| 00:07.03 | Zehra | which currently isn't online or anything |
| 00:09.08 | Zehra | like the wings plug-in for bzw files |
| 00:09.48 | Zehra | it's basically not needed since wings was updated to support exporting .bzw files |
| 00:11.41 | Zehra | if it's an issue i'll stop |
| 00:15.31 | Zehra | not sure if i should merge several pages too |
| 00:17.06 | Zehra | btw |
| 00:17.22 | Zehra | should these pages be redirected or kept for reference? |
| 00:17.27 | Zehra | https://wiki.bzflag.org/DevelopmentPlans/2.4.2 |
| 00:17.36 | Zehra | https://wiki.bzflag.org/DevelopmentPlans/2.4.4 |
| 00:40.20 | macsforme | I think it would be better to update the information and refer to it as historical... I don't think people should generally be wiping pages and redirecting them |
| 00:41.20 | macsforme | at least not in their own sole discretion |
| 00:54.33 | Zehra | ok |
| 00:55.24 | Zehra | won't do redirects unless it involves creating a new page |
| 00:58.36 | Zehra | bad part is i'm not really up to date on details with lots of pages |
| 00:59.09 | Zehra | needs to check forums for up to date content on most of the things |
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| 05:02.31 | Delusional | macsforme, Iâve been checking his work for the last month or so, heâs making good decisions and I havenât noticed anything out of line. However, youâre âhistoricalâ suggestion is valid, and something I have not considered. |
| 05:16.19 | macsforme | yes, he has generally been doing good work... this is the first edit I've questioned (probably because I was personally involved in creating this page) |
| 05:18.55 | Delusional | he has asked me a few questions about mapping-related pages |
| 05:26.07 | macsforme | ultimately we do need to consolidate our documentation and trim the cruft... but I don't think the wiki is the eventual destination for that, so when users remove information they perceive as obselete then that information is less accessible later on if the wiki is perused for content to be migrated |
| 05:27.25 | macsforme | in this specific case there was probably no harm done... I just don't like the idea in general |
| 05:31.57 | macsforme | I know blast007 has dropped a few ideas about having our documentation on the main web site... perhaps he could share more details about his plans, so others could give input and could collaborate on some of the work (and so they don't waste a lot of effort going in a different direction in the meantime) |
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| 14:10.21 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Blast * 9430 /BZFS2_prototype: Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Zehra|Zehra]] ([[User talk:Zehra|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:JeffM2501|JeffM2501]] |
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| 14:13.05 | blast007 | macsforme: I don't plan on using information from the wiki for the official documentation |
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| 21:45.41 | Zehra | would it be alright if i'd merge some pages? |
| 21:49.13 | JeffM | what pages? |
| 22:06.05 | Zehra | wiki pages |
| 22:07.00 | JeffM | yeah I figured that.... what wiki pages? |
| 22:08.44 | Zehra | the ones which are related to the game client |
| 22:09.27 | JeffM | I think you should state exactly what pages you intend to merge and why |
| 22:09.33 | Zehra | ok |
| 22:09.38 | JeffM | instead of such a blanklet statement |
| 22:10.41 | Zehra | i'm thinking of observer mode, radar, scoreboard and heads up display |
| 22:10.58 | Zehra | probably a few others too |
| 22:11.10 | JeffM | how long will the resulting page be? |
| 22:11.39 | Zehra | probably about 2-5 pages long |
| 22:11.52 | Zehra | 2 if there's lots of redundant content |
| 22:11.56 | JeffM | it may be better to have a summary of those items on the client page with a link to the more detailed page |
| 22:12.18 | Zehra | was thinking of that |
| 22:12.35 | Zehra | oddly it seems a client page doesn't exist |
| 22:12.47 | Zehra | there's BZFS and BZAdmin |
| 22:12.57 | Zehra | no actual BZFlag page |
| 22:12.58 | JeffM | I'd think the client shuld be a category with a summary category page |
| 22:13.07 | JeffM | BZFlag is a loaded word |
| 22:13.16 | Zehra | yes |
| 22:13.19 | JeffM | the entire project is bzflag, the client is bzflag, etc... |
| 22:13.33 | Zehra | i was thinking of a new page |
| 22:13.45 | Zehra | like "BZFlag (game client)" |
| 22:13.48 | JeffM | it may need a disambuguation page then |
| 22:14.10 | JeffM | but I could see use in a summary page |
| 22:14.20 | JeffM | I'd think there'd be too much data for just one page on the client |
| 22:14.35 | Zehra | yup |
| 22:14.43 | JeffM | 5 pages would be a bit big for a single article |
| 22:14.58 | JeffM | and people may search for things like HUD |
| 22:15.05 | JeffM | so having a hud page is benifitial |
| 22:15.19 | Zehra | well redirects will help |
| 22:15.27 | Zehra | if used |
| 22:15.28 | JeffM | redirects are anoying |
| 22:15.46 | JeffM | I searched for a thing, but you showed me something else |
| 22:16.17 | Zehra | yes |
| 22:16.22 | JeffM | I'd think something like what wikipedia does would be better, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket#Components |
| 22:16.32 | JeffM | engines and propellant have summaries, and links to main articles |
| 22:16.47 | Zehra | yup |
| 22:17.45 | Zehra | although |
| 22:17.59 | Zehra | most articles are actually pretty small |
| 22:18.26 | JeffM | are they just small right now? or small because the subject doesn't have a lot of info to tell? |
| 22:18.48 | JeffM | small because they arn't complete is a differnet reason, that means they will get bigger later |
| 22:19.00 | Zehra | some don't have much content to say |
| 22:19.42 | Zehra | as it can be explained in small page |
| 22:20.09 | Zehra | generally about .3-.5 of a page in size |
| 22:20.42 | JeffM | then combining those may make sense |
| 22:20.42 | Zehra | and could be expended to about very max 2 pages or so |
| 22:21.07 | Zehra | that's what i'm thinking |
| 22:21.34 | JeffM | I'd write the new page first, and see how it comes out |
| 22:22.10 | Zehra | ok |
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