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| 03:22.53 | allejo | JeffM: it's cool, i'll differ my blame to bzfs then :p |
| 03:23.03 | allejo | I want shootthrough bases! |
| 03:23.08 | JeffM | actualy bzfs should read it, did it give you an error? |
| 03:24.27 | allejo | bzfs reads it no problem |
| 03:24.34 | allejo | just, the client doesn't treat it that way |
| 03:24.34 | JeffM | it "should" just work |
| 03:24.40 | JeffM | then that's a bug in the client |
| 03:24.44 | JeffM | it's sent to the client |
| 03:25.00 | JeffM | it probalby dosn't check the flags |
| 03:25.04 | JeffM | silly client |
| 03:26.10 | JeffM | I fixed issue 7, bases will not start with a valid team, and size |
| 03:26.22 | JeffM | working on the geometry one, it's a bit more tricky |
| 03:26.38 | JeffM | I may need to redo the entire geometry system, something I've pondered anyway |
| 03:27.00 | JeffM | but I need to update unity first |
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| 03:59.55 | JeffM | allejo: this release has both your fixes in it ,https://github.com/JeffM2501/UnityBZWTools/releases/tag/alpha_0.0.08.112316 |
| 04:00.10 | allejo | <3 |
| 04:00.32 | JeffM | I forgot to set the team to a valid color when you hit the button :( |
| 04:00.40 | JeffM | so it was set to NoTeam |
| 04:00.46 | JeffM | they don't have a texture |
| 04:02.09 | allejo | if I would import and obj to unity, and place it on the map, and save the map through your package, would that work? |
| 04:02.25 | JeffM | it currently will not convert objects to meshes |
| 04:02.28 | JeffM | thats one thing I need to do |
| 04:02.59 | JeffM | but yes, that's the idea, import any mesh file, add the BZWMesh component to the object, and then it would save the mesh out to BZW |
| 04:03.30 | JeffM | I haven't done that part of the editor yet, there are some choices I'd need to make regarding material handling |
| 04:04.02 | JeffM | but if you import a bunch of boxes and stuff, and set them as BZWBox it'll export them as boxes using the rotation and scale |
| 04:05.57 | allejo | oh neat, I shall look forward to that feature eventually :D |
| 04:06.07 | JeffM | it'll be a bit hard |
| 04:06.21 | JeffM | unity really wants one material per mesh, bzw supports N materials per mesh |
| 04:06.43 | JeffM | so I'll probalby have to break up a bzw mesh into multiple unity meshes and then merge on export |
| 04:07.23 | JeffM | but if people use it more then I can work on it. |
| 04:07.53 | JeffM | drawinfo is the worst |
| 04:07.54 | allejo | i'm your sole user and bug reporter thus far, sorry :p |
| 04:08.21 | allejo | so unity would want a mesh with an image laid out for uv mapping? |
| 04:08.40 | JeffM | if the material was textured, sure |
| 04:08.50 | JeffM | and yeah it NEEDS UV maps |
| 04:08.58 | JeffM | none of this "let open GL figure it out" |
| 04:09.13 | JeffM | so I'd have to do some kind of automatic UV generatation on import |
| 04:09.17 | JeffM | same for normals |
| 04:09.57 | JeffM | initaly I'd probalby only support reading in meshes from BZW that had been saved from unity in the first place |
| 04:10.03 | JeffM | that would at least be something |
| 04:11.31 | allejo | so if the mesh were imported to unity as an obj, then it'd work? for this beginning support, i.e. |
| 04:11.43 | JeffM | unity doens't care about the format |
| 04:11.54 | JeffM | it reads obj and a BUNCH of other formats |
| 04:11.58 | JeffM | it'll read native blender |
| 04:12.04 | JeffM | once it's in unity, it's a unity mesh |
| 04:12.24 | allejo | oh that's convenient |
| 04:12.28 | JeffM | and from there I know I can generate valid export data and write a single mesh object with a single material |
| 04:12.52 | JeffM | the idea behind unity is you don't care about data formats, the editor does that for you, at runtime it's all unity objects |
| 04:15.45 | JeffM | once you import a bzw file, I actualy build unity meshes for all the geometry |
| 04:16.09 | JeffM | the only way I know it's a box is because I added the BZWBox class to it as a component |
| 04:22.54 | allejo | is that why each object (or most) can be expanded to other "subobjects" (for lack of a better term) e.g. "walls" |
| 04:23.12 | JeffM | yeah, every GameObject can have N children |
| 04:23.29 | JeffM | so I just slap a sub object with a mesh that uses a different material |
| 04:23.45 | JeffM | they are all parented to the box or base object |
| 04:24.34 | JeffM | there is a way I could put all the meshes into a single object but it's a huge pain |
| 04:24.52 | JeffM | spliting them lets the engine optimze them too |
| 04:25.09 | JeffM | everything with the same material gets drawn at the same time |
| 04:28.35 | JeffM | one thing I need to do is re-arange the geometry code that picks materials so that it doesn't use an editor component to find the textures. Then I can read bzw at runtime not just edit time |
| 04:30.21 | JeffM | then I could build an HTML5 map viewer |
| 04:33.30 | allejo | run time for what? |
| 04:33.53 | allejo | also, would it possible to create an options block from your tools in case one is deleted or the imported map file never had one? |
| 04:36.15 | JeffM | it shoudl always add an options item |
| 04:36.33 | JeffM | unity makes exes and HTML 5 sites |
| 04:36.37 | JeffM | that's "run time" |
| 04:36.45 | JeffM | when it runs with out the editor |
| 04:36.57 | JeffM | so I could build an exe or a HTML site that read and draws maps |
| 04:37.02 | JeffM | with out the need for full unity |
| 04:38.41 | JeffM | so like not just an animated GIF preview of your map but an interactive HTML5/WebGL preview |
| 04:42.44 | allejo | oh awesome, gotta test out the options block thing now |
| 04:43.17 | allejo | so live previews could be incorporated on the fourms, in theory |
| 04:51.18 | JeffM | yup |
| 04:52.33 | allejo | :o |
| 04:53.27 | JeffM | assuming it's inherent evilness can be overlooked |
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| 19:57.21 | cods | Can you animate meshes in bzflag? (Move them, transform them, while playing) I don't think it's possible because that would need to update collision tree, and so on. |
| 19:57.34 | JeffM | no, not for stuff with collisions |
| 19:57.53 | JeffM | drawinfo allows some cyclical animations but they are limited to visual only |
| 19:58.18 | cods | oh, I missed that one |
| 19:58.45 | JeffM | you are correct that real animation woudl require updating of the collision volumes and that is not possible. |
| 19:59.26 | cods | thx. I will study that. Looks interesting (for decoration purpose) |
| 19:59.39 | JeffM | it's kind of a pain in the ass to setup |
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