| 00:10.42 | macsforme | The_Hand_of_Mike: unless you are talking about iTunes eating your ripped tracks (which isn't really stealing... just rip them again), you can download previous purchases again if you need to |
| 00:10.48 | macsforme | because... the cloud |
| 00:20.51 | JeffM | I was able to upload my rips to my amazon account, now I get access to them everywhere |
| 00:24.05 | blast007 | JeffM: even on macs that you could swap the drive, you sometimes had to worry about getting specific drives because of the need for their temperature sensor, iirc |
| 00:24.25 | JeffM | blast007: oh I know, I have had many |
| 00:24.36 | JeffM | and yeah, that was the trick , tracking down a drive that would actualy work |
| 00:25.11 | JeffM | it's not like I coudl truck on down to CompUSA and get one in 1992 ;) |
| 00:26.52 | blast007 | you had hard drives in your computers in '92? fancy. I was probably still sticking 5.25" floppies into Apple II's. :P |
| 00:27.09 | JeffM | yeah, powerbook 160 :) |
| 00:27.53 | JeffM | or maybe it was a 165, I don't remember |
| 00:28.02 | JeffM | I know it has 4 bit grayscale |
| 00:28.04 | blast007 | I didn't have a computer at home until like 95 or 96, and that was a used PC from the mid 80's |
| 00:28.14 | blast007 | though that did have a hard drive, but it was like 20MB |
| 00:28.55 | blast007 | back in the days of knowning nothing, so I would just type crap into the DOS prompt and get wonder what "Bad command or filename" meant |
| 00:29.06 | JeffM | my first mac was a performa 600CD |
| 00:29.06 | blast007 | s/and get/and/ |
| 00:29.13 | JeffM | we got it at sears |
| 00:29.19 | JeffM | before that it was just comodore 64's |
| 00:29.48 | JeffM | it had a 2XCDROM! |
| 00:31.59 | blast007 | oh man, remember the CD-ROM drives where the CD was placed inside a cartridge? |
| 00:32.05 | JeffM | yeah the tray |
| 00:32.08 | JeffM | with a little door |
| 00:32.14 | JeffM | that's what it had |
| 00:35.34 | blast007 | http://myoldmac.net/Sellpicts/Apple-CDdrive-300.jpg |
| 00:35.45 | blast007 | those were the days |
| 00:35.53 | JeffM | yep, that was put in the front of the emachine |
| 00:36.13 | JeffM | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_IIvx |
| 00:36.24 | JeffM | the bay under the floppy held the CD |
| 00:36.44 | JeffM | except since I had a perfoma, it was a IIvx with out a MMU or FPU |
| 00:37.13 | JeffM | I had to get the chip separately and drop it in so I could do floating point maths. |
| 00:59.55 | The_Hand_of_Mike | you guys are a riot |
| 01:00.31 | The_Hand_of_Mike | so, no, macsforme, the issue was that stuff Iâd already bought was removed by Apple because they didnât have a licensing deal from the clearing houses they use for music |
| 01:00.51 | The_Hand_of_Mike | itâs actually not a glitch, there was a whole litany of people that got thusly screwed; google it |
| 01:02.10 | The_Hand_of_Mike | in my case, the thing that brought my attention to it was going to play the new Yeasayer album on my phone, and it said âyou are not authorized to play this content,â and when I got home, the album was gone |
| 01:02.23 | The_Hand_of_Mike | by connecting the phone, it was also deleted from my phone |
| 01:02.49 | The_Hand_of_Mike | seriously, no tinfoilhat stuff, all in all 392 albums deleted since upgrading toâ¦whatever, post-Lion, for sure |
| 01:04.08 | The_Hand_of_Mike | but i digress |
| 01:04.14 | The_Hand_of_Mike | HARD DRIVES! |
| 01:04.27 | The_Hand_of_Mike | man, canât live with them from a sowâs ear, amirite? |
| 01:04.39 | macsforme | I've heard of apple does reach into your song/movie/app libraries and removing stuff over licensing issues... irritating for sure, but I'm sure it was mandated by their contracts... and 392 albums, seriously? |
| 01:04.50 | The_Hand_of_Mike | yep, 392 |
| 01:04.50 | macsforme | s/does reach/reaching/ |
| 01:05.18 | The_Hand_of_Mike | the reason I know this is because I have a shload of CDs, like over 1500 of them, and I randomly grabbed 20 albums and 1 was missing that I had ripped from CD |
| 01:05.49 | The_Hand_of_Mike | so then I checked my NetApp and found 377 that were on the NAS that werenât in iTunes |
| 01:06.11 | The_Hand_of_Mike | the difference was the albums Iâd bought (not on CD) that were in iTunes but hadnât yet been backed up to the NAS |
| 01:06.20 | The_Hand_of_Mike | but I had receipts |
| 01:06.27 | The_Hand_of_Mike | and, no, Apple did not refund me one cent |
| 01:07.21 | The_Hand_of_Mike | we proofed this by replacing Physical Graffitti in iTunes via CD rip |
| 01:07.27 | The_Hand_of_Mike | within 3 days, it was deleted again |
| 01:08.23 | The_Hand_of_Mike | we figured out Apple looks at iTunes and goes down the list of artists and says, âLed Zep? Yeah,w e sell their stuff. Whatâs this, PhyGraf? Yeah, we sell that, but we didnât sell it to himâYOINK!â |
| 01:08.38 | The_Hand_of_Mike | so the next test was to put a space in front of the band name |
| 01:09.07 | The_Hand_of_Mike | now Apple goes, âWhat band is _Ledzep? No idea, so it must be a custom rip or a bandcamp band, donât delete it.â |
| 01:09.37 | The_Hand_of_Mike | Even wrote a script for Dougâs Scripts to rename every band to have a space in front of the name. Stopped deletion. |
| 01:10.15 | The_Hand_of_Mike | Thatâs just the CDs. |
| 01:10.34 | macsforme | are you talking about CDs, or stuff you bought from the iTunes store? |
| 01:10.36 | The_Hand_of_Mike | so for the stuff I bought off iTunes, the things would get deleted that didnât have active licenses |
| 01:10.52 | The_Hand_of_Mike | thatâs only 15 albums, but still |
| 01:10.55 | The_Hand_of_Mike | not one cent refund |
| 01:11.45 | The_Hand_of_Mike | the 392 albums were a mix of things that were on CD, or Amazon or wherever. 15 of them were iTunes-bought |
| 01:12.02 | The_Hand_of_Mike | the albums that WERENâT stolen were albums that I donât think iTunes has ever sold |
| 01:12.32 | The_Hand_of_Mike | a lot of compilations, which is entirely another iTunes-deletes-my-stuff thread for you to Google |
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| 01:41.00 | BulletCatcher | I happened to listen to Physical Graffiti today. It came up in rotation. |
| 01:41.43 | BulletCatcher | Kashmir is as awesome as ever. |
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