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| 01:19.16 | JeffM | allejo: https://github.com/JeffM2501/UnityBZWTools/releases/download/alpha_0.0.05.110416/UnityBZWTools_0_0_5a1_110716.unitypackage that reverses the link glyph sides |
| 01:23.39 | macsforme | is it intentional that not all the developers have access to the other repositories under BZFlag-Dev? |
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| 01:28.40 | JeffM | like you can't commit to them? |
| 01:28.54 | macsforme | right |
| 01:29.04 | JeffM | is it the no cops allowed one? |
| 01:29.13 | JeffM | bzflag_DarkWEBz |
| 01:29.24 | macsforme | be right back with a search warrant |
| 01:29.44 | the_map | no you're doing it wrong |
| 01:29.55 | the_map | you show up with the search warrant, and *then* tell them you have it |
| 01:30.01 | JeffM | I can just see the judge having dinner inturputed "wait... a video game?" |
| 01:30.19 | JeffM | what don't you have access to? deps? |
| 01:30.23 | macsforme | the_map: that approach requires you to actually write a search warrant |
| 01:30.43 | macsforme | deps, tools... haven't tried all of them |
| 01:31.20 | JeffM | probably an oversight, but I coudl see the windows deps one being limited to people that know what they are doing |
| 01:31.22 | BulletCatcher | Which repo do you want push access to? |
| 01:31.34 | JeffM | I belive there is no way to grant "everyone" access to them "all" |
| 01:32.27 | BulletCatcher | I can adjust settings per repo, but I don't see a way to get an overview. |
| 01:32.48 | JeffM | are there user groups? |
| 01:33.23 | allejo | just create teams |
| 01:33.38 | allejo | should already be a developers team |
| 01:33.57 | macsforme | BulletCatcher: tools, to start with... I did do a PR to the dependencies repo with some quotification, but I don't anticipate having to regularly commit there at this time |
| 01:34.15 | allejo | but teams do need to be granted perms on a per repo basis iirc |
| 01:35.38 | blast007 | for tools, are you looking to work on bzwgen? |
| 01:36.14 | macsforme | no, I want to relocate at least some of the tools/ stuff from the main repo there |
| 01:36.27 | blast007 | like what? |
| 01:36.43 | JeffM | bzfs |
| 01:37.42 | blast007 | I'd not recommend putting anything else into bzflag-tools, bzflag-web, or bzflag-archive. Those were more dumping grounds than anything. |
| 01:37.45 | macsforme | probably all of it |
| 01:38.05 | macsforme | well, the main repo needs cleaning up |
| 01:38.33 | blast007 | 'needs' |
| 01:39.29 | blast007 | what does bzwtransform actually do? |
| 01:39.48 | blast007 | some intermediate language? |
| 01:40.07 | JeffM | god I used to know the answer to that question |
| 01:42.37 | blast007 | TextTool2 can be it's own repo |
| 01:42.47 | blast007 | modeltool probably could as well |
| 01:42.55 | JeffM | it's super simple |
| 01:43.10 | JeffM | and reads quake3 maps for some reason.... |
| 01:44.38 | allejo | subtree split! |
| 01:44.41 | BulletCatcher | Its first commit (r339) log message says bzwtransform is a "tool for generating worlds algorithmically." |
| 01:45.09 | BulletCatcher | It implements some sort of meta-language for bzw files. |
| 01:45.21 | JeffM | yeah, it takes objects and dupe and transforms them |
| 01:45.26 | JeffM | for like making a ring of boxes |
| 01:45.33 | macsforme | why do we have bzflag-tools if it's not a place to put tools? if it's a "dumping ground" all of that stuff could have gone in bzflag-archive |
| 01:45.34 | blast007 | only support 1.7 style syntax too |
| 01:46.24 | blast007 | macsforme: the stuff in archive was just stuff that wasn't tool and wasn't web :P |
| 01:46.28 | blast007 | tools* |
| 01:47.00 | JeffM | do you want each tool to be a seperate repo? if it has the posibility to maintained, and anything else in archive? |
| 01:47.22 | blast007 | tools we intend to release and work on should have their own repo |
| 01:47.33 | JeffM | that may make it easier for individuals to maintain small tools |
| 01:47.52 | blast007 | that's why the web stuff is all in one repo. because I don't intend to release or work on any of that old garbage. :) |
| 01:48.17 | blast007 | still an SVN checkout on the actual server for the list server, actually |
| 01:51.07 | blast007 | about the only useful thing in web is the art for the forum icons |
| 01:51.49 | JeffM | that's just the game icon colored and rotated |
| 01:52.06 | JeffM | or do you mean the ranks? |
| 01:52.26 | blast007 | ranks, I think |
| 01:52.37 | JeffM | so old.. so squiddgy |
| 01:52.57 | macsforme | there is also some redundancy between bzflag-art and bzflag/misc/art |
| 01:54.17 | macsforme | I would really like to relocate or get rid of all of the stuff in misc/ as well... much of it belongs on a wiki or something |
| 01:55.10 | BulletCatcher | Just to make it even more complicated, if we want to pull something like bzwtransform out of the bzflag repo, either to let it rest in peace or to continue development, I think we should make the effort to copy all of the relevant commit history to the destination repo so it will be "complete." |
| 01:55.11 | BulletCatcher | My experience in doing the SVN->Git migration can help with that. |
| 01:56.38 | allejo | BulletCatcher, look up a subtree split |
| 01:56.50 | JeffM | sounds like a hand in a card game |
| 01:56.57 | JeffM | or something that happens while bowling |
| 01:57.11 | JeffM | ooo he's got the 3-7 subtree split, that's a tough one |
| 01:57.18 | allejo | lol |
| 01:57.45 | BulletCatcher | Huh, allejo. That may make it too easy. :-) |
| 01:59.59 | allejo | :) |
| 02:00.32 | the_map | you have a 3-7 subtree split? ...in that case, I think I'm going to have to fold |
| 02:00.55 | macsforme | can we just have one bzflag-archive repository with all of the archived projects? or at least rename the others to bzflag-web-archive and bzflag-tools-archive, or something similar, so the names make it clear what they're for? |
| 02:00.56 | JeffM | rakes in all the null references |
| 02:01.55 | macsforme | really, for abandoned code that just has to sit somewhere, I doubt that the distinction between types of archived content makes a difference to any develoeprs |
| 02:08.10 | BulletCatcher | I am relucant to try to encode too much information in repo names. |
| 02:10.18 | BulletCatcher | We could go into a little more detail in the brief description of each repo if that would help. |
| 02:23.35 | allejo | how about something like: bzflag-4587ab0-repo |
| 02:23.57 | macsforme | a name that at least illustrates the purpose or content of the repository, without requiring background knowledge, would seem appropriate |
| 02:24.14 | BulletCatcher | "git subtree split -P tools/bzwtransform" seems to work for the newer commits, but it doesn't follow the directory change at r9789 (070474fd). |
| 02:26.32 | macsforme | I think there were only three commits since the move, anyway... could probably cherry-pick them |
| 02:26.50 | allejo | merge two separate splits? |
| 02:27.25 | BulletCatcher | Purpose has subtleties that are difficult to convey in a very few words. |
| 02:29.06 | BulletCatcher | Yeah, we could probably do two subtree splits, and then rebase the newer on the older. |
| 02:36.26 | BulletCatcher | I got conflicts doing the rebase, but presumably they can be resolved. |
| 02:36.34 | BulletCatcher | Or maybe I just did it wrong. |
| 02:37.06 | BulletCatcher | split, split, rebase still seems like it ought to work. |
| 03:09.06 | macsforme | maybe because the file path is not the same? |
| 03:13.39 | macsforme | no, I guess that should still work, since one of the commits does move the file... |
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