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| 14:13.33 | macsforme | how does low fps cause "shots to miss?" |
| 14:14.15 | macsforme | if anything, I thought it makes the hit zone effectively bigger |
| 14:19.41 | brad | thought it was the other way around. higher fps makes it harder to hit |
| 14:19.52 | brad | lower fps delays the hit |
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| 14:37.44 | macsforme | yeah |
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| 14:50.37 | blast007 | macsforme: because collisions are only checked once per frame |
| 14:50.41 | blast007 | less frames = less checks |
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| 14:51.11 | blast007 | at least, I don't think the segmented simulation code made it into 2.4 from 2.99.x, but I could be wrong |
| 14:53.13 | macsforme | I believe the dt is accounted for in the collision detection, so the hit zone is effectively bigger for a larger dt |
| 14:53.23 | blast007 | [citation needed] |
| 14:54.12 | blast007 | it certainly wasn't for solid objects, which is why players could phase through walls with screenshots before |
| 14:54.52 | macsforme | we're talking about tank/shell collisions, not tank/geometry collisions |
| 14:56.14 | macsforme | and don't tell me [citation needed] when you yourself made the original assertion :P |
| 14:56.20 | blast007 | ;) |
| 14:58.28 | macsforme | this is what An SQUERRILz sent me (not sure where he got this information): |
| 14:58.33 | macsforme | Lower FPS increases your vertical hitbox, both in terms of getting shot but also your landing. Because a flag capture is checked before collisions, lower FPS can plausibly increase your chances of getting the cap, even if you die. In terms of getting shot, due to a physics bug, lower FPS extends your hitbox proportionally to your frame delay and increases your vulnerability to angled shots (climbing vertically) by a non-negligible marg |
| 14:58.33 | macsforme | in. |
| 15:00.24 | macsforme | as for anecdotal evidence, playing at a lower framerate has always felt to me like more shots will kill you at the margin than at higher framerates |
| 15:00.26 | blast007 | that sounds like it's only in the Z axis |
| 15:07.40 | blast007 | the shot collision code is definitely more complicated that I had remembered |
| 15:07.55 | blast007 | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/blob/f54bbdc86b4a859d15f9aff06e0ec13bd6462dfc/src/bzflag/SegmentedShotStrategy.cxx#L195 |
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| 16:07.13 | BulletCatcher | another XKCD comic about BZFlag: http://xkcd.com/1695/ |
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| 20:06.09 | kierra | ~BulletCatcher++ |
| 20:18.04 | RoscoePColtrain | indeed |
| 21:02.20 | kierra | hye RoscoePColtrain |
| 21:02.25 | kierra | hey* |
| 21:02.33 | RoscoePColtrain | hey k |
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