IRC log for #bzflag on 20160531

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02:37.44rodent_moo
02:38.34BulletCatcher~moo
02:38.34infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.
02:39.03KaadmY~moo
02:39.03infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.
02:39.10KaadmYcan i spam it? testing..
02:39.13KaadmY~moo
02:39.13infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.
02:39.18rodent_yes, moo package is well known.
02:39.21KaadmYdarn
02:39.23*** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by ChanServ
02:39.27blast007no, you cannot
02:39.35RoscoePColtrainuh oh
02:39.36KaadmYpreps for a kick
02:39.46RoscoePColtraincovers his eyes
02:39.46blast007:P
02:39.49*** mode/#bzflag [-o blast007] by blast007
02:40.06rodent_didn't know about your bot, so don't spam kick ;)
02:40.21RoscoePColtrain~kick
02:40.29RoscoePColtrainyou broke it
02:40.32KaadmY~lart blast007
02:40.32infobotchops blast007 in half with a free Solaris 7 CD
02:40.35KaadmYyay
02:40.40rodent_sol7!
02:40.48RoscoePColtrainwow ... needs updating
02:40.51rodent_9 was best though.
02:40.58RoscoePColtrainno, 9 sucked
02:41.00RoscoePColtrain10 FTW
02:41.11RoscoePColtrainor 8
02:41.12KaadmYthis game is like old enough to *run* on solaris
02:41.17rodent_i still have a sun blade 2000 with 10 in the basement.
02:41.19BulletCatcherI have a Solaris 7 system that reached 4 years of uptime last week.
02:41.27KaadmYwat
02:41.35rodent_oh, and a sub blade 100 with 8.
02:41.36KaadmY"years" "last week"
02:41.41RoscoePColtraineven number releases are best
02:42.07KaadmYsemver is da best
02:42.12BulletCatcherLast week, my one remaining Solaris 7 system reached 4 years of uptime.
02:42.21KaadmYah BulletCatcher
02:42.30rodent_heh. that what suns/solaris are good for;)
02:42.56rodent_i miss dev on sol. should never have retired.
02:42.56RoscoePColtrainand how long does your windows stay up?
02:43.05RoscoePColtraindon't say that rodent_
02:43.07RoscoePColtrainI'm close
02:43.23RoscoePColtrainbut inexorable forces are pushing towards RHEL
02:43.24rodent_ah. grandkids to pass the time, at least? :)
02:43.29RoscoePColtraingot 1
02:43.30RoscoePColtrainso far
02:43.35rodent_xlnt!
02:44.18BulletCatcherSolaris isn't the same since Oracle bought Sun.
02:44.21BulletCatcherI'll be glad to retire my last Solaris system, but I expect that to be several years in the future.
02:44.37BulletCatcherThey keep going, and going ...
02:44.43RoscoePColtrain11 is growing on me, though
02:44.45rodent_yeah, i worked at sun in the 80s/90s. still knew ppl there when oracle ruined it.
02:45.05RoscoePColtrainZFS is the best thing they came up with
02:45.10rodent_was nearly as sad a day as when hubblle's optics were noticed to be flawed.
02:45.20RoscoePColtrainlol
02:45.36KaadmYwonders how many people that play BZ were born in the 21st century
02:45.41RoscoePColtrain3
02:45.47rodent_hah. good q;)
02:45.48KaadmY._.
02:46.01BulletCatcherZones are right up there with best-of-breed technology from Sun.
02:46.17RoscoePColtraintrue, but they are better in Sol 11 than Sol 10
02:46.20rodent_agreed on both.
02:47.03rodent_doors were a nice idea too.
02:47.04KaadmYstarts up BZFlag and joins the AHOD server
02:47.12RoscoePColtrainI don't quite get doors
02:47.47rodent_not that hard. easy ipc method and simpler code design, imo.
02:48.04RoscoePColtrainok, I'll break down and read the docs :)
02:48.41rodent_or search for examples;)
02:48.46rodent_probably have a few.
02:49.20rodent_you guys are making want to fire up the basement cluster now.
02:51.22RoscoePColtrainif I had more disk space I would totally run Sol 11 in Virtual Box
02:51.52rodent_yeah. works in kvm too.
02:52.16RoscoePColtrainI almost installed it on an old PC, but I couldn't get it to read the DvD drive :)
02:53.19rodent_heh
02:56.19rodent_you know, i have sunos4.1.4 abi/elf software which ran all the way to sol10. at sol10, an LD_PRELOAD solved the change the semctl libc interface, so now runs on sol11
02:56.22rodent_try that on linux;)
02:57.28RoscoePColtrainI hate when PHB's say "You need to port to Linux"
02:57.28rodent_someday i might port it from its anicent suncc code base. hah.
02:57.33RoscoePColtrainI say "Why?"
02:57.46RoscoePColtrain"Because all our other systems run Linux"
02:58.31rodent_heh. i was meaning to bring up sol10 on a linode.
03:00.39rodent_open solaris still alive or not?
03:00.46RoscoePColtrainish
03:02.36rodent_okay, i am going to fire up the cluster. all real sparcs;)
03:02.47RoscoePColtrainsweet
03:02.49rodent_egrep -i '(sun|solaris)' /etc/hosts | grep -i sparc | wc -l
03:02.49rodent_11
03:03.30rodent_i wonder how many amps that is;)
03:04.53RoscoePColtrainwe are going to spend 100's of 1,000s of $$ to make ignorant luddites happy
03:04.58RoscoePColtrainand our system slower
03:05.04RoscoePColtrainbecause we NEED ZFS
03:05.33rodent_only really dug into linux for 2 reasons: oracle & the intel core proc line was finally intel's first useful processor.
03:05.41rodent_but zfs works there too.
03:05.48RoscoePColtrainbut not natively
03:05.52RoscoePColtrainit's a hack
03:05.55rodent_yeah.
03:05.59rodent_that i know;)
03:09.01rodent_what else you work with these days?
03:09.26RoscoePColtrainI'm (currently) strictly a Solaris operation
03:09.48rodent_respect;)
03:10.19rodent_(so was my...nearly entire career including sunos ;)
03:11.04RoscoePColtrainI've been doing Sun/Solaris for about 20 years or so
03:11.13RoscoePColtrainfirst Sun box was Sun 3
03:11.40rodent_yeah, me too. 3/60 and 3/260...or was it 3/280 vme box?
03:11.48rodent_sunos 3.5 and network disks!
03:12.01RoscoePColtrainMotorola 68020 :)
03:12.08rodent_yep
03:12.26rodent_was a fun place to work in the 80s as well.
03:13.53RoscoePColtrainhad a Mil-Spec Sun 3-something with an embedded Ivory card (native Lisp processor)
03:14.11rodent_don't recall that.
03:14.17RoscoePColtrainit was basically a workstation encased in a tempest enclosure
03:14.32RoscoePColtrainbig metal box with RF shielding
03:15.18rodent_ah. still don't ;) did some stuff on trusted sol for sunfed once.
03:15.26RoscoePColtrainugh
03:15.33rodent_yeah yeah;)
03:15.42RoscoePColtrainMLS is a pain
03:15.49RoscoePColtrainMSL is the right way to go :)
03:16.29rodent_i forget all the book colors now.
03:16.49RoscoePColtrainOrange
03:16.54rodent_sounds right.
03:17.39rodent_and i discovered my step son uses admin/password for his wifi router's ui.
03:17.40rodent_ahem.
03:17.41RoscoePColtrainsomebody has to do MLS, but it's so expensive to develop/accredit, it has to be limited to gateways
03:17.47RoscoePColtrainlol
03:18.30rodent_yeah. security is an after thought these days, if that. ah well.
03:18.44RoscoePColtrainas the saying goes
03:18.53RoscoePColtrainsecurity must be baked in, not frosted on
03:19.18rodent_yep.
03:19.49rodent_future ai's won't have any troubles whatsover ruling over us;)
03:22.03rodent_time to feed the kittens. bbl, enjoy;)
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06:15.41the_map<rodent_> doors were a nice idea too.
06:15.41the_map<RoscoePColtrain> I don't quite get doors
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13:03.19rodent_map;)
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13:56.07blast007halp, bzflag wont run on my powermac g4 running os 9.0.4
14:08.38the_maphave you tried turning it off and on again?
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