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| 01:37.05 | Flak | are we going to work on a PR campaign? |
| 01:38.58 | blast007 | why? |
| 01:40.12 | Flak | to get more users |
| 01:41.07 | blast007 | you were part of a discussion yesterday about PR... |
| 01:41.12 | kierra | [11:34:40] <blast007> once 2.6.0 is out, I think it would then be worth running some advertisements and pushing it on some more gaming platforms (like Desura, which runs on our three main platforms) and some indie game sites |
| 01:41.30 | Flak | agreed kierra |
| 01:41.56 | blast007 | obviously you don't because you keep talking about the same things over and over |
| 01:41.56 | Flak | i think we need to plan for 2.6.0 |
| 01:42.00 | blast007 | oh my god |
| 01:42.06 | Flak | ? |
| 01:42.19 | kierra | flak, you miss have the discussions here when you log off |
| 01:42.23 | kierra | check the logs |
| 01:42.35 | blast007 | not just that, he forgets discussions he's *part* of |
| 01:42.44 | Flak | ? |
| 01:44.52 | blast007 | you were here when I linked to the 2.6.0 development plans, and you commented on them... "that looks like a good plan" |
| 01:45.52 | blast007 | you were here when I said about doing advertisements and spreading the site on indie game sites, after 2.6.0 is out, and you said "that would work nicely" |
| 01:45.58 | Flak | ah i remember |
| 01:46.25 | blast007 | do you? |
| 01:46.51 | Flak | i tend to look on the news alot |
| 01:47.02 | Flak | then sometimes i may forget |
| 01:47.53 | blast007 | running out of space on the old grey matter root volume? |
| 01:48.04 | Flak | lol |
| 01:48.25 | blast007 | this was less than 10 hours ago :) |
| 01:48.55 | Flak | hey everyone forgets sometimes |
| 01:49.13 | kierra | check the link in topic line for logs :) |
| 01:49.35 | Flak | i checked them :) |
| 01:53.50 | blast007 | and then from yesterday: < blast007> I'd not want to waste PR on a subpar product, though < blast007> there should be some work done before we go crazy with advertising < Flak> agreed |
| 01:55.03 | kaadmy | isn't thisnan old argument again |
| 01:55.42 | blast007 | and also from yesterday, I mentioned that there 158 downloads total (which I split up into each download) in one week |
| 01:56.10 | blast007 | so there's been plenty of discussion about how we *don't* need "PR" right now, we need to improve the game to keep people interested in it |
| 01:58.22 | kaadmy | imo some minor fixes would be nice to keep an audience |
| 01:58.39 | kaadmy | like texturing on pyramids and meshboxes |
| 01:59.17 | Flak | that would be nice |
| 01:59.45 | kaadmy | the ts texturing just bothers me |
| 01:59.54 | Flak | same here |
| 02:07.10 | blast007 | Flak: You just agree with everything everyone says, don'tcha? |
| 02:09.37 | Flak | someways yes |
| 02:09.52 | Flak | otherways no |
| 02:10.38 | allejo | same here |
| 02:10.44 | blast007 | I agree |
| 02:11.45 | Flak | wait what? |
| 02:24.38 | the_map | yeah totally |
| 02:26.15 | Flak | ? |
| 02:26.58 | Flak | is the agreement on the texturing or me? |
| 02:27.05 | the_map | yeah |
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| 05:36.33 | Constitution | I agree with moving ahead with 2.4.4 |
| 05:36.48 | Constitution | the bug is only exhibited on Windows 10, right? |
| 05:57.48 | the_map | W10 with AMD I think |
| 07:01.31 | allejo | I mean 2.4.2 would crash on OS X randomly until that was fixed with 2.4.3. I think it's Windows 10's turn this time around :) |
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| 11:09.01 | blast007 | Constitution: yes, only Windows 10 with recent AMD graphics hardware and not on systems with hybrid graphics (Intel + AMD) |
| 11:14.50 | blast007 | it's more complicated than I thought to throw together a "minimal test case" for the issue :) |
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| 14:05.51 | blast007 | allejo: this isn't a random crash though - it simply won't run at all ;) |
| 14:06.09 | blast007 | I could probably just use SDL2 on Windows and it would work then |
| 14:33.16 | Constitution | Windows 10 does not lack driver problems in general |
| 14:45.18 | blast007 | s/driver // |
| 15:15.11 | blast007 | Constitution: also, looks like SDL 2.0.4 was released on the 2nd. |
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| 15:49.51 | op90- | Windows 10 is a problem in general |
| 16:04.36 | the_map | op90-: I agree |
| 16:04.38 | the_map | :) |
| 16:04.59 | the_map | I just hope linux doesn't take a turn with bzflag not workin |
| 16:05.02 | the_map | *working |
| 16:15.55 | kaadmy | i think most devs(how many devs are there still?) probably use linux |
| 16:16.12 | kaadmy | so bzflag should be pretty stable on linux |
| 16:16.29 | blast007 | Windows had typically been the most stable platform for us |
| 16:16.38 | blast007 | then Windows 10 came in like a wrecking ball |
| 16:17.02 | blast007 | (and Mac OS X has been our least stable platform) |
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| 18:50.31 | kaadmy | how do you find the amount of players on a team? bz_getTeamCount seems to be a little flaky |
| 18:50.47 | kaadmy | seems dead players aren't counted, but maybe not |
| 18:53.31 | blast007 | what values are you passing to bz_getTeamCount? stuff like eRedTeam and eGreenTeam? |
| 18:56.17 | kaadmy | yep |
| 18:56.37 | kaadmy | works, but if i debug it, it comes out as 0 or 1 seemingly randomly when i join or die |
| 18:56.49 | kaadmy | i'll check again though |
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| 18:57.54 | blast007 | 'debug' meaning what? |
| 18:58.47 | kaadmy | bz_debugMessage(0, text) |
| 18:58.59 | kaadmy | 0 so i don't need to enable debugging mode |
| 19:00.11 | kaadmy | well, it should work, so i'll just assume it does for now |
| 19:02.00 | allejo | I've never had any issue with it |
| 19:03.14 | kaadmy | what should i consider enough players for an attack/defend plugin? |
| 19:03.22 | kaadmy | i'm doing 1 attack player, 1 defend player |
| 19:16.10 | blast007 | you could have a David vs Goliath mode where it's 10vs1 :P |