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| 12:58.35 | Delusional | version 2.4.3.20150520 does not like these options |
| 12:58.42 | Delusional | options |
| 12:58.42 | Delusional | -set _skyColor black |
| 12:58.44 | Delusional | -set _drawClouds 0 |
| 12:58.45 | Delusional | -set _drawMountains 0 |
| 12:58.47 | Delusional | -set _drawSky 0 |
| 12:58.48 | Delusional | -set _drawGround 0 |
| 12:58.49 | Delusional | -set _drawCelestial 0 |
| 12:58.50 | Delusional | -set _wallHeight 0 |
| 12:58.51 | Delusional | end |
| 12:59.09 | Delusional | I suspect that RC is the same |
| 12:59.15 | Delusional | on a mac |
| 13:00.27 | Delusional | also⦠loading those options in the world fileâs options block does not seem to work, you have to be an admin and set them via commands. |
| 13:01.07 | Delusional | at which point everything gets sloppy |
| 13:10.24 | blast007 | is there a specific one it doesn't like? |
| 13:18.51 | Delusional | Itâs probably me, blast. hold on |
| 13:19.01 | Delusional | something weird here |
| 13:33.33 | Delusional | yeah.. what I mentioned above does not appear to work when loaded un the mapâs options block |
| 13:34.10 | Delusional | and none of the special material names aka. skyboxes |
| 13:35.31 | Delusional | err, magic material names https://wiki.bzflag.org/Material |
| 13:37.03 | Delusional | hmm.. GroundMaterial is working |
| 13:37.06 | blast007 | that option block worked for me |
| 13:37.19 | blast007 | are you using the same texture URLs for multiple skybox sides? |
| 13:38.33 | Delusional | yeah i was doing that. then tried boxwall.png |
| 13:39.22 | blast007 | I had issues using the same URL for multiple sides. |
| 13:44.39 | Delusional | OK, i got faked out by that⦠the top and bottom images are not often seen, so I duped them |
| 13:44.44 | Delusional | skybox is working |
| 13:45.00 | Delusional | but I still donât have the options block working |
| 13:45.14 | Delusional | wallheight works |
| 13:45.20 | Delusional | none of the others |
| 13:45.31 | blast007 | dunno, I made a world with just that option block you pasted above, and they all worked |
| 13:49.06 | Delusional | not for me⦠Iâm pretty sure Iâm doing it right |
| 13:49.41 | blast007 | start with just that, test, and then start adding stuff in a chunk at a time and test |
| 13:56.00 | Delusional | still no go. even skyColor |
| 13:56.10 | Delusional | other variables in the block work |
| 13:56.30 | Delusional | GroundMaterial is working |
| 13:56.43 | Delusional | but thatâs not in the block |
| 13:57.44 | blast007 | so you just have a world file with that options block, and none of it works? |
| 14:00.24 | Delusional | correct |
| 14:01.16 | blast007 | worked for me though... you sure you're loading the right file? |
| 14:01.23 | Delusional | yep |
| 14:01.42 | Delusional | i can use commands to set them in-game |
| 14:04.32 | Delusional | this is ot the latest RC, itâs dated 05-20 |
| 14:04.44 | Delusional | >n |
| 14:04.46 | blast007 | It worked for me with the RC1 |
| 14:04.56 | blast007 | testing it in Linux now though |
| 14:05.00 | Delusional | you got a mac build? |
| 14:05.06 | blast007 | I don't have a mac |
| 14:12.12 | Delusional | all the material names have tested good |
| 14:17.29 | blast007 | the options block works fine for me on Linux as well |
| 14:27.12 | BulletCatcher | Please try the same world file with the 2.4.2 release. |
| 14:28.30 | Delusional | ok |
| 14:33.51 | Delusional | Constitution: still no go |
| 14:35.13 | Delusional | used 2.4.2 server and client |
| 14:35.45 | BulletCatcher | That suggests that there is some sort of problem in the world file, perhaps with line endings. |
| 14:39.03 | BulletCatcher | It needs to look normal in the output of a "cat -v world.bzw" command in a Terminal window. |
| 14:39.44 | Delusional | ok |
| 14:40.55 | Delusional | looks the same as in my text editor |
| 14:41.03 | Delusional | smultron 7 |
| 14:41.13 | BulletCatcher | hmm |
| 14:41.32 | Delusional | can try saving with textedit |
| 14:42.06 | BulletCatcher | "cat -v" is reliable at showing otherwise invisible characters. |
| 14:42.19 | blast007 | wonky character encoding? |
| 14:44.10 | Delusional | yep itâs me |
| 14:44.32 | Delusional | Iâm using a conf file. |
| 14:44.43 | Delusional | All that stuff is in there too, set to 1 |
| 14:44.54 | Delusional | will you please shoot me now? |
| 14:45.02 | BulletCatcher | ~bzfrag Delusional |
| 14:45.05 | infobot | ACTION makes Delusional feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 14:45.05 | blast007 | heh |
| 14:45.05 | Delusional | why wait any longer? |
| 14:45.26 | Delusional | double fragged |
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| 14:49.37 | Delusional | Iâve got this conf file âbig.confâ that Iâve been using since forever, itâs got a history of every map Iâve tested locally, since forever. three hundred+ lines of -world. |
| 14:50.21 | Delusional | Had to reformat my disk six weeks ago, and this is the first time Iâve mapped since. Thanks for helping me get set up again. |
| 14:52.10 | BulletCatcher | Put the options block after the include line to override the .conf file. |
| 14:53.17 | Delusional | hmm |
| 14:59.14 | blast007 | put -world after the -set's in the config |
| 14:59.48 | blast007 | or if you're loading the map on the command line, put the -world after the -conf |
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| 17:27.33 | alpha1-2 | 19:09.04blast007bleh... on my little mini PC running Windows 8.1, there's no "Change Video Format" option in the display options menu. Is there anyone else with a Windows 8.1 machine that can confirm if that's missing or not? |
| 17:27.35 | alpha1-2 | 19:58.08blast007and it's only happening when the desktop resolution is 1920x1080 (the native resolution of my TV) :/ |
| 17:27.36 | alpha1-2 | I don't understand very well your problem. Can you see the option with other resolutions? |
| 17:28.11 | blast007 | yes, if I change the desktop resolution to anything else before starting the client, I see the option in-game to change resolutions |
| 17:29.56 | alpha1-2 | always desktop and game resolution should be the same, at start |
| 17:30.06 | alpha1-2 | resolutions* |
| 17:31.29 | alpha1-2 | but then game reolutions should accomodate to any other desktop one, you mean? |
| 17:32.10 | blast007 | no, I'm saying the *menu option* to change resolution is not there when I start the game with the desktop resolution at 1920x1080 |
| 17:32.46 | alpha1-2 | it is not hidden 'cause of the bottom of the screen? |
| 17:33.56 | blast007 | no, it's not there |
| 17:34.22 | blast007 | it's failing to get a list of resolutions, so it's not showing the menu option |
| 17:34.36 | alpha1-2 | ah you see a hole/free space then |
| 17:35.11 | alpha1-2 | ah okay, empty list --> no option |
| 17:36.23 | blast007 | I'll probably just bring my TV over to this other computer and see if it's something specific with that screen's set of resolutions |
| 17:37.11 | alpha1-2 | then, you keep client running and you change desktop resolutions several times, and it appears and dissapears every time or you close and restart client every time? |
| 17:37.56 | blast007 | I don't think resolutions are rescanned for mid-game, so I'm closing down the client in between |
| 17:38.41 | alpha1-2 | maybe that resolution is rather new/big for BZ/some libraries code? |
| 17:40.07 | blast007 | I get all the resolutions if I start in a different resolution, so it's not that |
| 17:43.10 | blast007 | and with that same display up to my Windows 7 system with nVidia graphics, it works fine |
| 17:44.35 | alpha1-2 | ah |
| 17:44.43 | alpha1-2 | it works with windows 7 |
| 17:45.08 | alpha1-2 | which graphic card does that other machine have? |
| 17:45.33 | alpha1-2 | windows 8 one |
| 17:45.59 | alpha1-2 | maybe generic? |
| 17:46.10 | alpha1-2 | or Intel/etc I mean |
| 17:47.16 | alpha1-2 | it is an issue of the operating system or of the graphic card/system surely |
| 17:48.23 | alpha1-2 | or a new feature implemented on them wich BZ can't handle successfully |
| 17:49.44 | alpha1-2 | you said you get all the resolutions list, but except the biggest one (1920x1080) right? |
| 17:51.12 | alpha1-2 | maybe you can test other applications with that big resolution to see if Windows 8 can't handle it well still |
| 17:52.02 | alpha1-2 | or test linux on it to see if it is a hardware issue |
| 17:53.27 | blast007 | yeah, it's a somewhat recent Atom SoC with Intel HD graphics |
| 17:54.02 | alpha1-2 | is it a netbook? |
| 17:54.13 | blast007 | and no, EVERY resolution lists when I start the game in a resolution other than 1920x1080 with that display |
| 17:54.37 | blast007 | but when I start in 1920x1080, none of them list (thus no menu option at all) |
| 17:54.50 | blast007 | it's a mini PC |
| 17:55.04 | blast007 | pocket sized |
| 17:55.18 | alpha1-2 | oh nice |
| 17:55.30 | alpha1-2 | even tinier than a netbook :) |
| 17:57.04 | blast007 | http://www.zotac.com/en/products/mini-pcs/zbox-p-series/product/zbox-p-series/detail/zbox-pi320-pico.html |
| 17:57.34 | blast007 | still an atom though, so pretty poor performance |
| 17:58.11 | alpha1-2 | I would test linux on it first (with a reasonable modern distro), but is that possible (dual booting) with windows 8 + hardware still? (secure boot and stuff issues) |
| 18:00.05 | alpha1-2 | that is a hard disc with connectors! :P (it looks like it, joke tho) |
| 18:00.54 | blast007 | secure boot can be turned off on this system, and no, there isn't a hard drive that can be swapped out - it's onboard 32GB flash memory that is soldered to the board |
| 18:03.13 | alpha1-2 | yes, flash memory kind of stuff, I imagined it, just a joke |
| 18:03.36 | alpha1-2 | wow, even a solid disk :P |
| 18:03.41 | alpha1-2 | even not * |
| 18:03.56 | alpha1-2 | pretty smart |
| 18:04.10 | alpha1-2 | you have to use your own external one, I see |
| 18:05.18 | alpha1-2 | "you can bring your computer to everywhere" :P |
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| 20:27.15 | Constitution | should we make an effort to fix all the compiler warnings before the final 2.4.4 release? or is the risk of breaking things not worthwhile? |
| 20:29.38 | Constitution | our DEVINFO does say that bz should compile cleanly :P |
| 20:29.56 | Constitution | but I would tend to think it's not worth the risk at this stage |
| 20:30.57 | blast007 | which warnings? |
| 20:32.00 | blast007 | I don't believe I get any on Windows, and I think our autoconf build system treats warnings as errors, at least for debug builds |
| 20:32.17 | blast007 | (on Windows we do have some warnings disabled, though) |
| 20:39.53 | Constitution | maybe we just need to tweak some compiler settings... I think I get about 30 warnings on Xcode, and I saw a few when I just compiled on my raspberry pi (gcc 4.9.2) |
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| 20:45.16 | Constitution | http://pastebin.com/gKj2z4Uh |
| 20:45.50 | Constitution | it looks like some of that can be corrected with compiler settings |
| 20:46.08 | blast007 | ah, well, for one, we don't build modeltool by default on Windows, and maybe not on linux either |
| 20:50.43 | blast007 | don't quite understand the warning about abs... does abs() only have an int return type on OS X? On Windows, there are versions for float, double, long double, long, and long long. |
| 21:02.02 | Constitution | there is double fabs(double)... |
| 21:03.38 | Constitution | http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdlib/abs/ has only int/long/long long return types... not sure if that's what's in the actual specification or not |
| 21:03.50 | Constitution | (for abs()) |
| 21:29.45 | blast007 | http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cmath/abs/ (we include cmath from common.h, and math.h from global.h [where global.h also includes common.h]) |
| 21:30.08 | blast007 | though I guess we also include math.h from common.h |
| 21:35.56 | Constitution | well, in Xcode, abs() is resolving to the abs() in stdlib.h |
| 21:36.30 | Constitution | it seems like it should find the other one, though |
| 21:36.38 | Constitution | if the signatures don't match |
| 21:39.22 | Constitution | it still does it even if I explicitly #include <cmath> at the top of that file... weird |
| 21:39.57 | blast007 | yeah, you'd think it would use the float one since we're feeding it a float and returning a float... |
| 21:40.32 | blast007 | how does it actually behave? is it truncating it to an integer? |
| 21:52.14 | blast007 | I wonder if Mopar's issue with global auth in 2.4.4-RC1 is because we still (or once again) have a DNS server that is offline for bzflag.org |
| 21:54.24 | Constitution | I can printf("%f") the value and it comes out as a float, but I still get all kinds of warnings in the compiler about it... |
| 21:54.49 | Constitution | I think the compiler is confused |
| 21:57.18 | blast007 | maybe it just thinks differently |
| 21:57.35 | Constitution | ~lart blast007 |
| 21:57.35 | infobot | takes out blast007 with the trash |
| 21:58.44 | Constitution | alright, that was kind of funny |
| 22:01.28 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:02.32 | kierra | Rofl! |
| 22:09.54 | the_map | would printf("%f") print it as a double even if it's an int? it does in python |
| 22:22.09 | blast007 | the_map: python would print 4 as 4.3? |
| 22:24.05 | Constitution | lol |
| 22:25.08 | the_map | >>> print "%f" %1 #output is 1.000000 |
| 22:41.41 | allejo | the std::abs() warning is a tricky one. if I fix it to whatever it needs, then it no longer works |
| 22:46.41 | Constitution | these are the warnings I get with gcc on linux: http://pastebin.com/WXNp1wHe |
| 22:51.43 | blast007 | which version of gcc? |
| 22:57.23 | Constitution | 4.9.2 |
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| 23:09.17 | Constitution | another thought... it seems that SDL 2 has a lot of problems on Linux, and the use of SDL_CaptureMouse() (only available in development code) does not have the desired effect on Linux... since we don't know when SDL 2.0.4 will be released, should we put that block of code inside an ifdef that checks for a recent enough SDL version, and then revert to requiring SDL 2.0.3? |
| 23:10.22 | Constitution | then it seems like it would be more open for more people to test |
| 23:15.19 | blast007 | why not just disable the SDL2 build option in configure.ac until a later time when we can test it better? I don't think there's much of an advantage to SDL2 on Linux right now |
| 23:19.25 | Constitution | I don't see any advantage to that... it's already clearly labeled experimental, and we need the option in the configure script in order to test/improve it at all |
| 23:35.12 | blast007 | I don't get any warnings on gcc 4.9.2 (Debian Jessie) |
| 23:35.32 | blast007 | that's fron just a regular ./configure --enable-debug |
| 23:35.34 | blast007 | from* |
| 23:41.22 | Constitution | okay |
| 23:41.45 | blast007 | were you building non-debug? |
| 23:42.09 | blast007 | (I'm assuming so, since I think it would have errored out at the first warning otherwise) |
| 23:53.21 | Constitution | yes |
| 23:53.35 | Constitution | I'll try a debug build |