| 00:07.17 | blast007 | do we want to see if we can get the build to work for systems with GCC 4.4? (Debian Squeeze, RHEL/CentOS 6.6) |
| 00:32.43 | blast007 | allejo: would you want to re-create your issues from the bzflag-import-3 repo in the new bzflag repo? |
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| 00:33.34 | allejo | I wouldn't mind |
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| 00:36.02 | blast007 | I have the two milestones created again, and added the 'in progress' label |
| 00:36.42 | blast007 | we had an 'up for grabs' on import-3, where I think the default name was 'help wanted'. I like 'help wanted' better. |
| 00:39.44 | allejo | idk if we'll ever want to be a part of this: http://up-for-grabs.net/#/ |
| 00:41.03 | blast007 | we'd have to use a hypenated label then? |
| 00:43.47 | blast007 | oh, nvm, says a different name is also acceptable - so how about "help wanted" ;) |
| 00:44.32 | blast007 | https://github.com/dahlbyk/up-for-grabs.net/blob/gh-pages/_data/projects/albacore.yml <-- and some of them use 'help wanted' |
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| 01:07.33 | allejo | i'm indifferent, help wanted sounds fine to me |
| 01:08.32 | allejo | anything we can back port? mesh bases? |
| 01:09.17 | allejo | horizontal teleporters? |
| 01:09.22 | blast007 | that would have to wait for 2.6 since it relies on client-side handling of what a 'base' is |
| 01:09.39 | allejo | awww damn. the client's still too smart |
| 01:09.51 | blast007 | horizontal, or the 2.99.x thing that allows a mesh face to be a teleporter? |
| 01:09.58 | allejo | yea |
| 01:10.07 | blast007 | same thing |
| 01:10.11 | allejo | figured |
| 01:10.39 | allejo | what about the ban ranges |
| 01:10.51 | blast007 | that would be possible |
| 01:11.14 | allejo | ipv6? |
| 01:11.18 | blast007 | 'push stats' we can probably put off for a while |
| 01:11.54 | allejo | haven't played around with the api, but for sure having the bzfs web server accept post requires. don't know if that exists or not |
| 01:12.05 | blast007 | IPv6 support is a pretty big project, and probably a bit much for a point release |
| 01:13.12 | blast007 | for instance, we'll need to replace our auth system in order to support IPv6 |
| 01:14.06 | blast007 | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-documentation/blob/master/services_design.md#ip-validation |
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| 01:15.34 | allejo | hmm |
| 01:21.35 | blast007 | there was a short discussion about the auth system recently: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/20150415.html.gz |
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| 02:03.40 | blast007 | hrm, for our SDL2 support, we require 2.0.3, but Debian Jessie has 2.0.2 :( |
| 02:07.31 | blast007 | ah, we can probably target 2.0.2 for Linux. The announcement for 2.0.3 says "This is a minor bugfix release to take care of creating an OpenGL context on Mac OS X 10.6" |
| 02:20.43 | blast007 | hrm, though we use SDL2 functions that require a yet to be released version of SDL2 :P |
| 02:30.05 | blast007 | http://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_CaptureMouse Do we actually want to use this anyway? "It is not recommended that you capture the mouse for long periods of time, such as the entire time your app is running." |
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| 04:15.40 | Snake12534 | ping Delusional I_Died_Once |
| 04:16.17 | I_Died_Once | whut |
| 04:16.50 | Snake12534 | I want to use the MoFo map in one of my servers. |
| 04:17.24 | I_Died_Once | oh I can answer that |
| 04:17.36 | I_Died_Once | seek ye the Book of No |
| 04:17.36 | Snake12534 | Yes? |
| 04:17.42 | I_Died_Once | Chapter No |
| 04:17.44 | Snake12534 | Why, what's the problem? |
| 04:17.49 | I_Died_Once | verse no |
| 04:17.53 | I_Died_Once | line no |
| 04:17.57 | I_Died_Once | subsection no |
| 04:18.29 | Snake12534 | and why not? |
| 04:19.04 | I_Died_Once | oh I can answer that too |
| 04:19.19 | I_Died_Once | seek ye the Book of Because I said so |
| 04:19.24 | I_Died_Once | chapter Because I said so |
| 04:19.56 | Snake12534 | I want to use it for my bzflagRPG plugin |
| 04:20.02 | Snake12534 | with a switching map mechanic |
| 04:20.14 | Snake12534 | old mofo players could get used to mofo map, it's a voting system |
| 04:20.17 | I_Died_Once | verse Because I said so |
| 04:20.17 | I_Died_Once | line Because I said so |
| 04:20.17 | I_Died_Once | subsection Because I said so |
| 04:20.19 | I_Died_Once | because we are not afiliated |
| 04:20.25 | I_Died_Once | and I don't want you drawing players ona misconception |
| 04:20.36 | Snake12534 | what's your point?? |
| 04:20.48 | I_Died_Once | dude, pretty please with sugar on top |
| 04:21.01 | I_Died_Once | respect my decision and do not use my map without permission |
| 04:21.10 | I_Died_Once | which you explictily do not have here |
| 04:23.44 | Snake12534 | I do respect your decision and I won't be using your map. I just wanted to know why you want to keep it closed; justification isn't needed but "Because I said so" is superfluous. |
| 04:24.06 | I_Died_Once | because we are not afiliated |
| 04:24.16 | I_Died_Once | and I don't want you drawing players on a misconception |
| 04:24.28 | I_Died_Once | same reason I'm not hosting your maps |
| 04:25.01 | I_Died_Once | and when I say my map, I mean my team's map which a lot of people put a lot of time and hard work into making |
| 04:25.06 | Snake12534 | When did I ever ask you to host my maps? |
| 04:25.43 | I_Died_Once | somewhere in the hundred and thirty seven times your begged to be admin |
| 04:26.01 | I_Died_Once | I have nothing further for you on this matter good sir |
| 04:27.37 | I_Died_Once | do what i did and dig something up from the old acrchives |
| 04:27.58 | I_Died_Once | good day sir |
| 04:28.25 | Snake12534 | I haven't talked to you since 2 years ago and now. Good day. |
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| 12:03.55 | blast007 | Constitution: SDL2Display.cxx makes use of SDL_CaptureMouse, which isn't available in a released version of SDL2. Can we just remove that? It also sounds like we're not using it in a way recommended by SDL since we are capturing the input for the duration of the program running. "It is not recommended that you capture the mouse for long periods of time, such as the entire time your app is running." |
| 12:06.11 | blast007 | Constitution: and is there a SDL2 Mac build using the latest 2.4.3 git code that we could have timvisher try to see if the crash, brightness, and graphical issues are resolved? |
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| 18:53.41 | Constitution | blast007: we need it, because otherwise when the mouse is confined to the motion box, if it gets outside the window between frames, the motion will not be detected |
| 18:54.26 | Constitution | there are several things we do which are not recommended, such as video mode changes for scaled resolutions |
| 18:55.16 | Constitution | and we need to wait for the next release of SDL 2 anyway, because the current versions have an issue with the fullscreen toggle on mac |
| 18:57.21 | Constitution | I'll build the latest and upload it so you can copy it to download.bzflag.org for him |
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| 19:03.36 | Constitution | blast007: http://fairserve.net/~josh/bzflag/BZFlag-2.4.3-20150517.zip |
| 19:26.52 | blast007 | done http://download.bzflag.org/2.4.3/mac/BZFlag-2.4.3-20150517.zip |
| 19:31.07 | blast007 | thanks |
| 19:35.17 | Snake12534 | alezakos, is there a mapChange plugin / vote? |
| 19:47.22 | alezakos | yes |
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| 19:57.55 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15blast007 pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02http://git.io/vTLst |
| 19:57.55 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 14b59421f 15Scott Wichser: For building with SDL2, require version 2.0.4 or later. |
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| 23:02.17 | Snake12534 | alezakos: can i have a link, please? |
| 23:02.49 | Snake12534 | snake.bzflag.org: 5154 - please test |
| 23:03.44 | allejo | I'm just going to take a wild stab here but I kinda doubt that host is legit |
| 23:04.03 | Snake12534 | it's not ready, allejo |
| 23:04.33 | Snake12534 | I need help, please. |
| 23:04.34 | allejo | you implied it was |
| 23:05.42 | Snake12534 | terminal is giving me syntax error |
| 23:06.03 | allejo | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bzflag+mapchange+plugin |
| 23:07.59 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Allejo * 8864 /Mapchange: Remove contradiction. Mapchange isn't part of the standard distribution |
| 23:09.54 | allejo | like I've mentioned to you before, you're running your server locally no one will be able to connect. you would have to run bzfs on a server or open up a port on your router |
| 23:10.37 | allejo | in addition, simply "declaring" a domain like snake.bzflag.org doesn't mean it will automatically exist. you'd need to have control of the domain to do something like that |
| 23:10.53 | Snake12534 | I will have to pay for that? |
| 23:11.06 | allejo | if you do not own a domain, yes you must purchase your own domain |
| 23:11.26 | Snake12534 | Will I be able to get my own domain: http://bzaddict.net/ |
| 23:11.31 | allejo | it is highly unlikely that bzflag.org will start handing out subdomains to players |
| 23:11.39 | allejo | no, you will not |
| 23:12.58 | Snake12534 | http://fivse.com/bzfs/ - will I be able to get my own domain? |
| 23:13.19 | Snake12534 | I do not understand server development. (yet) |
| 23:14.00 | allejo | no. bzaddict does not provide custom domains. you'd only have hosting.bzaddict.net available to you |
| 23:14.43 | Snake12534 | ah, i get it now |
| 23:15.22 | allejo | and this isn't server development. it's only server configuration if you will |
| 23:15.38 | blast007 | there's plenty of free DNS providers, such as freedns.afraid.org or no-ip.com |
| 23:15.40 | Snake12534 | https://www.godaddy.com/ |
| 23:15.48 | Snake12534 | this stuff isn't cheap |
| 23:16.19 | blast007 | godaddy is one of the worst registrars anyway.. |
| 23:16.51 | allejo | ^ |
| 23:17.04 | blast007 | but it doesn't matter.. you don't have to pay for a domain if you just want a hostname and are okay with it being a subdomain |
| 23:17.26 | Snake12534 | who do I pay for a bzflag subdomain? |
| 23:17.48 | blast007 | are you hosting this from home? |
| 23:18.39 | Snake12534 | yes; that is the goal |
| 23:19.05 | blast007 | but you can't host anyway since you don't have a server key |
| 23:19.54 | allejo | also, with the amount of ddos attacks we've been receiving lately, i'd advise against hosting a home connection |
| 23:20.01 | blast007 | that too.. |
| 23:20.13 | Snake12534 | I can buy DDoS protection. |
| 23:20.21 | allejo | but not a domain? |
| 23:20.38 | Snake12534 | I can buy a domain but I want a bzflag affiliated domain. |
| 23:20.39 | blast007 | DDoS protection for a residental internet connection? |
| 23:20.51 | Snake12534 | I can if I am serious about hosting. |
| 23:21.04 | blast007 | luckily for us, you're not |
| 23:21.14 | Snake12534 | This plug-in in the works is going to change BZFlag, I hope and I think. |
| 23:21.51 | blast007 | you're writing a plugin? |
| 23:22.00 | Snake12534 | It's in the works; yes. |
| 23:22.10 | Snake12534 | It's ready for testing. |
| 23:22.12 | blast007 | is that a no to my question? |
| 23:22.23 | Snake12534 | I answered yes. |
| 23:22.38 | blast007 | so *you* are writing the plugin? |
| 23:22.47 | Snake12534 | Yes. |
| 23:22.58 | blast007 | oh boy |
| 23:23.17 | blast007 | didn't know you knew C++ |
| 23:23.26 | Snake12534 | Me neither. |
| 23:26.37 | allejo | would C++ be the equivalent of a B-? |
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