IRC log for #bzflag on 20140903

00:03.17JeffMalpha1-2, just so you know most of the US was on holiday yesterday
00:03.54alpha1-2ohh, which special day?
00:04.46alpha1-2which holiday is today?*
00:04.56JeffMtoday is a regular day
00:05.00JeffMyesterday was labor day
00:05.17alpha1-2oh yesterday, okay, sorry
00:05.47alpha1-2and thanks for telling me
00:06.37JeffMit just may change the time people are free
00:06.42JeffMI am still at work for instance.
00:07.30alpha1-2"it just may change the time people are free"? what do you mean?
00:07.49alpha1-2oh "it" not "I", sorry again
00:07.59JeffMno worries
00:08.05alpha1-2needs new glasses :P
00:08.14alpha1-2(some tired also)
00:10.13alpha1-2you returned your work already? good news
00:10.21alpha1-2at*
00:10.34JeffMyeah I could have gone back after 2-3 days
00:10.45JeffMbut since it was the long weekend I just rested
00:10.49JeffMI had 5 days off
00:10.53alpha1-2ah I see
00:11.05alpha1-2do you feel good, then?
00:11.17JeffMI would not say "good", I'd say "acceptable"
00:11.24JeffMI can manage
00:11.39JeffMthe abdominal binder is itchy
00:12.25alpha1-2oh, sorry
00:13.07alpha1-2but glad of you are better at once
00:13.34JeffMthanks
00:15.38alpha1-2Me trying to throw some Ducati matches. Maybe tomorow I can try in afternoon, surely more Euros available, and some US's can join.
00:33.04alpha1-2Also, it is not necessary to use the real callsigns nor being registered into Ducati (just tell me in-game, we can switch servers), though it would be good. There are public Ducati servers either in USA or in Europe.
00:33.38alpha1-2and in Europe*
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13:51.56alpha1-2hey, that is from Channel Crossing! ;)
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14:07.06kierraducati ftw!
14:11.12alpha1-2new ducati match soon, be alert :)
14:11.37alpha1-2(specially for this channel)
14:11.59mahem1If only I was home... What time-zone are you in alpha1?
14:12.27alpha1-2UTC -3
14:13.15alpha1-2and you?
14:13.31mahem1So this is still around midday for you then.
14:13.37mahem1-4
14:13.50alpha1-2yes 11:13 a. m. right now
14:14.51mahem1So then you are in a -4 timezone. Or am I just in daylight savings time...
14:15.18mahem1Silly daylight savings time, forever ruining the logic between timezonse.
14:15.21kierra-5
14:15.35kierra10:15 :)
14:15.40alpha1-2http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
14:16.24alpha1-2I am -3, Argentina
14:16.59mahem111:15 here.
14:17.09mahem1Yeah, I always feel like humans are idiots when I see that people in the same time zone are an hour apart...
14:17.27alpha1-2and we don't have daylight saving times (lately) except for 1 province if I am right
14:17.52mahem1At least kierra and I are (kinda) in sync.
14:17.55mahem1I see.
14:18.29kierra-3 to -5 is not so bad a time difference
14:18.30kierra:)
14:19.05kierragoes back to work
14:19.33mahem1Not bad at all.
14:19.39mahem1does the same
14:20.08alpha1-2we used to have it some years ago (and maybe before too), just the politics apply it or not sometimes (with the intention of a better use of the daylight preciselly)
14:20.33alpha1-2precisely*
14:21.04alpha1-2but that link has the timezones updated always, I think
14:21.46alpha1-2(made in blast007 ;)
14:22.09alpha1-2(he posted here one time)
14:29.37alpha1-2thinking in a new plugin flag: 1) Is it possible to shoot bullets in a parabolic way (like a cannon)? (Using the same idea of Turret Defence of moving over a pad to aim.) 2) Is it possible to aim upwards also (it only aims downwards)?
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15:17.36alpha1-2Next ducati match in 45 minutes aprox. (16 UTC)!
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15:37.36alpha1-2Hi JeffM, maybe you can answer: thinking in a new plugin flag: 1) Is it possible to shoot bullets in a parabolic way (like a cannon)? (Using the same idea of Turret Defence of moving over a pad to aim.) 2) Is it possible to aim upwards also (it only aims downwards)?
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15:45.44JeffMno, no
15:45.55JeffMshots have no gravity
15:46.21JeffMand there is no aiming
15:46.36JeffMthere is an option where shots will keep whatever vertical velocity the tank had
15:46.57JeffMso if the tank is jumping when it shoots the shot will have that same upward velocity, but it will be a line
15:47.46mahem1thoughfully wonders how GMs work.
15:48.05JeffMthe shooting client sends out an update message
15:48.10JeffMthat changes it's orientation
15:48.26JeffMMsgShotUpdate
15:48.47JeffMit's the only shot that accepts that type of update
15:48.51alpha1-2yes, I know that server option, but have you seen the Turret Defence plugin? It is very original. You stay in a pad with an specific flag and you move over it while you shoot downward aiming.
15:49.02JeffMand it is not automatic, the shooter has to keep sending the updates
15:49.26JeffMalpha1-2, you probably don't shoot those shots, the server shoots them for you
15:49.33JeffMor there is an invisible rico
15:49.34alpha1-2ah yes, true
15:49.39JeffMshots can bouce up or down
15:49.44JeffMbut that is not aiming
15:49.45mahem1I see, so one would need a client side plugin.
15:49.57JeffMthere are no such things as client side plugins
15:50.05mahem1Exactly
15:50.13JeffMall clients woul hae to be moded the same way
15:50.21alpha1-2no, you don't even have to shoot, true. It is a continuos spread like a shotgun
15:50.28WarPigIn Turret Defense the shots are WW.
15:50.32JeffMthen yeah it's the server
15:50.40JeffMshots can travel in any vector
15:50.49JeffMthey are not affected by gravity
15:50.59JeffMthe serve can create shots in any vector
15:51.06JeffMa client has limited vector choices
15:51.22JeffMand GM updates that vector in flight
15:51.55alpha1-2okay then 1) no 2) yes, right? :)
15:52.06JeffM2) no
15:52.09JeffMyou can not aim
15:52.47JeffMif by "aim" you mean "change the fixed angle that is used by the plugin to shoot up" then yes
15:52.47alpha1-2no, talking of the Turret Defence plugin that aim donward, I think it could do it upward the same, right?
15:53.03JeffMI think you are not using the word "aim" correctly
15:53.19JeffM"aim" means that a user picks a specfic direction that is different from shot to shot
15:53.33JeffMyes the plug-in can set any direction
15:53.39JeffMbut the user can not pick that direction
15:53.41alpha1-2oh, no client aiming, I understand that is not posible (no turrets)
15:54.04alpha1-2okay, thanks
15:54.08JeffMworld weapons can be fired in any vector
15:54.36alpha1-2and adding gravity to server would be too hard to do?
15:54.52JeffMit would not be "to the server"
15:55.08alpha1-2like vertical velocity option for example
15:55.09JeffMadding gravity to shots would be a major feature
15:55.14JeffMit's not a server thing
15:55.24JeffMshots are handled by the clients
15:55.52JeffMit would be more then just 'adding gravity'
15:55.54alpha1-2ah, and the server just allow it or not, right?
15:55.58JeffMno
15:55.58alpha1-2allows*
15:56.12JeffMthe server just has the variable that is the setting
15:56.22JeffMthe bzflag server is very very dumb
15:56.43JeffMgravity on shots would make the game less playable with out vertical aiming
15:56.49JeffMsnice you could not hit anything far away
15:56.59alpha1-2and the client request just that value to do the job by themselves?
15:57.05alpha1-2clients*
15:57.10JeffMit's part of the BZDB system
15:57.24JeffMthe server sends all the BZDB variables to the client
15:57.36alpha1-2ah okay
15:58.47alpha1-2well, it would be nice just thinking in a cannon flag, with plugin development, that instead of straight would shoot with gravity (parabole)
15:59.46alpha1-2some similar to Turret Def. but with gravity. Though, then, gravity would be some hard to include, I suppose
16:01.22alpha1-2or like a bomber plane (WG) that shoot from up to down maybe too
16:01.32JeffMif/when we rewrite shots the server could do shot updates on any shot
16:01.52JeffMin that case a world weapon could be made to act like it had gravity by sending out updates
16:01.59JeffMbut I would not make it a flag
16:02.09JeffMagain, you'd need aiming to make it useable
16:02.18JeffMand we are not adding aiming to bzflag
16:03.17alpha1-2okay, I will re-read all this later to und. it better, thanks (have to throw a Ducati match now :)
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16:10.30alpha1-2Ducati *early* match - for the development spirit: waiting since now, all invited!
16:12.38alpha1-2(nice random map!, have a look!)
16:16.45alpha1-2we are 4 already, observers welcome too!
16:17.10alpha1-2we start in 3 min
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16:28.12blast007development spirit?
16:29.04JeffMit's better then spirit development, too many caskets in that one
16:29.30blast007if there's a development spirit, does that mean development is dead? ;)
16:29.43JeffMoooohohhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooo
16:30.13WarPigThe Jack Daniels folks have a different take on spirit development.
16:30.23WarPig...one that I prefer.
16:30.36JeffMyeah rapid and comercialized :)
16:33.08WarPigJeffM:  I regularly see GMs continue to track after the shooter has died.  Hax or bugs?
16:33.35JeffMis the shooting client still connected?
16:33.38blast007WarPig: packet loss
16:33.44blast007MsgShotEnd is sent UDP
16:33.47JeffMand what do you mean by "track"?
16:33.49JeffMyeah
16:34.08JeffMpart of the tracking is done by the person who is locked on to so it's wierd
16:34.33JeffMthe GM rules were never really thought out well
16:34.36WarPigWell, yesterday, a GM player locked on me and fired.  I shot and killed him before the GM got to me, but it continued to track me.
16:34.38JeffMand are somewhat inconsistent
16:34.48JeffMI belive that is valid
16:35.07WarPigGMs used to reliably unlock if the shooter died.
16:35.25mahem1Yeah, I thought the trick was to kill the GMer then you are just dodging a regular bullet.
16:35.26blast007WarPig: there was also something wacky with that with 2.4.0, iirc
16:35.35blast007think the tracking didn't stop correctly
16:35.44blast007fixed with 2.4.2
16:36.01WarPig...a good reason to downgrade :P
16:36.17JeffManother reason the game is mostly unplayable ;)
16:36.20blast007good reason to kick/ban people running 2.4.0 ;)
16:36.21WarPigheh
16:37.39JeffMrealy the server should manage the GM updates
16:38.57blast007s/GM updates/all the things/
16:47.29alpha1-2well, it was fun, thanks for all who attended (new ones incoming this week)... (5-2)
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16:52.10alpha1-2oh I play with 2.4.0 and it seems GM stops looking at me (though not sure). What happens usally is that it continues straight and if you don't move, you die.
16:52.29alpha1-2usually*
16:57.27alpha1-2just a comment, and take it with humour and constructively: I can't believe that the 2 most active developers are the 2 most negative ones?? :) Come one guys!
16:57.58alpha1-2(or 2 of the most active ones)
16:58.34alpha1-2(not saying names.... :P)
16:59.50alpha1-2hides
17:00.07alpha1-2behind a wall with SB flag
17:02.24alpha1-2This is precisely the intention of this "Renovation of Spirits Week" (through playing matches)
17:09.32alpha1-2was thinking in the Saturday as a good day for several last matches (apart of these every weekdays ones). And, good coincidence, the next day (Sun 7th) there are the Big Monthly Fun Match 19 UTC and the Last Tank Standing Tournament 19:40 UTC (both Ducati style)
17:11.09alpha1-2good events at least to be an observer
17:14.26JeffMdefine active?
17:14.50alpha1-2you could define it better than me :)
17:15.08JeffMactive developer means someone who contributes code
17:16.16alpha1-2yes, but also, discussing here is very important, or giving answers
17:17.06alpha1-2(or the forum)
17:17.15alpha1-2in the*
17:17.53alpha1-2and you both are very active in that
17:19.35alpha1-2everybody is important, from the maintainer to the tiniest one (talking of developers specifically)
17:19.56alpha1-2but all the others also
17:21.29blast007alpha1-2: no, it was 2.4.0 clients that CAUSED the issue, not experienced the issue
17:22.00blast007if it's the issue I'm thinking of, 2.4.0 clients didn't properly end their own GMs when they died
17:22.14alpha1-2ohh... hmm... I will have it in mind then, to check it
17:22.27blast007should upgrade your client
17:22.36alpha1-2one thing that it is common to all (it is a bug still not fixed) is that
17:23.31alpha1-2when you shoot the last GM, you lose your target, unless you look it again
17:23.56blast007you mean when all your GMs end, the target is cleared?
17:24.33JeffMI think he means that when GM has a shot limit
17:24.35alpha1-2yes, it was reported by I_Died_Once I think long time ago
17:24.38blast007that's not a bug, that's how it's specifically coded to work
17:24.41JeffMyou don't send updates after the drop
17:24.44JeffMyeah
17:24.49JeffMthere is a ticket for it
17:24.59JeffMI don't agree with how that works, but that is how it is implemented
17:25.02blast007when there are no GM shots active, the target is cleared
17:25.20alpha1-2oh, but you can look at it again
17:25.27JeffMif you have the flag
17:25.36alpha1-2if I am sure, hard to do, though
17:25.39blast007if you evenly time your shots so that there is always at least one active, the lock will remain without having to retarget
17:25.43alpha1-2right*
17:28.04alpha1-2I look, I shoot, when the missile hits, I lose the target. But with my last one, I lose it inmediately I shoot it, then I have time to re-target it before it hits, if I am not wrong (hard to do, few time)
17:30.19alpha1-2it should be fixed, I think, if you shoot your last missile (targeted) it should keep targeted until it hits, no matter if it is the last shoot.
17:30.33blast007so one of your active bullets goes straight while the others are all following the target?
17:31.29blast007or are you talking about shot limits where you only get a number of shots before the flag drops?
17:31.53alpha1-2all the previous ones works well, but the last one: I look, I shoot, but inmediately the missile goes out, I lose the target then the missile goes almost straight, then I have to re-target it and maybe it has time to hit the enemy
17:32.20blast007what do you mean by "last"?
17:32.25alpha1-2if I am not wrong, I should check it well
17:33.08alpha1-2(dict.)
17:34.19blast007I know what last means.  You are being too vague though.  Are we talking about a flag shot limit, or the normal maximum simultaneous shot limit per tank?
17:34.22alpha1-2yes, "last", if I have 10 GM shots available, when I shoot the last one (the number 10), I lose the target inmediately it goes out
17:34.48alpha1-2oh, it is an adj. not an noun, okay, sorry :)
17:35.32alpha1-2flag shot limit
17:35.39JeffMI think he used it correctly, the only time you can have a last shot is if there is a limit :)
17:35.54JeffMI did not see it as "previous" shot
17:36.25alpha1-2(the other day I used "last" by "latest", yes, some confused :)
17:36.52blast007JeffM: or the last shot until you have to wait for them to reload
17:36.56blast007which is what I'm trying to clarify
17:37.22blast007alpha1-2: yes, flag shot limit is a known issue as well
17:37.25alpha1-2no, no reload issue, flag shot limit related
17:37.47blast007and I do not think you can retarget the last shot since you no longer have the "targeting hardware" ;)
17:37.54alpha1-2that is what I_Died_Once reported long time ago, IIRC
17:38.27alpha1-2but well, it is not tooo serious OFC :)
17:38.53blast007not worth fixing in the current state.  It is something we could look into if we ever get to moving GM movement to the server.
17:39.29alpha1-2okay
17:40.05alpha1-2I will check it anyways cause I could at least re-target, though not hit, IIRC
17:40.26alpha1-2not sure
17:40.28JeffMahh, I don't see that as the last shot
17:40.31JeffMcus there will be more :)
17:40.51alpha1-2it is the last GM shot
17:40.56alpha1-2with that flag
17:41.01blast007does 2.4 have lockon markers?
17:41.21alpha1-2yes, in Experimental quality only, I always use it
17:41.38blast007yeah, that was the issue
17:41.38alpha1-2(and I use 2.4.0 cause it says STABLE)
17:41.45JeffMoh that's a joke
17:41.57JeffMit received the same testing as 2.4.2 :)
17:42.01blast007alpha1-2: you serious?
17:42.05JeffMdebian just made us put that on there
17:42.10alpha1-2oh yes?
17:42.11JeffMyou should run from GIT code
17:42.12JeffMyeah
17:42.16JeffMthose labels don't mean anything
17:42.19alpha1-22.4.2 said MAINT
17:42.22blast007it's just because we didn't change the label back to 'stable' before we released 2.4.2 ;)
17:42.31blast007but yeah, pretty meaningless
17:42.39blast0072.4.0 has more issues than 2.4.2
17:42.43JeffM2.4.2 "popcorn eyeglasses"
17:42.47blast007and 2.4.3 has fewer than 2.4.2
17:42.49alpha1-2I should believe what I read on there, shouldn't I? :)
17:42.59JeffMbuild from source
17:43.24blast007we should just label everything "UNSTABLE" :P
17:43.26alpha1-2I do it
17:43.35JeffMnaw "Fantastic!"
17:43.37blast007alpha1-2: are you on Windows?
17:44.15alpha1-2I always build from source, JeffM, then I get the code to see at once
17:44.22JeffMbuild from the current source
17:44.28blast007do you print out the source code too?
17:44.55blast007JeffM: remember nn, the guy who printed out our source so he could read it easier? ;D
17:45.06JeffMheh
17:45.08alpha1-2but I also like it to be most stabl as possible, don't like the snapshots
17:45.14JeffMprobalby on the green and white dot matrix paper too
17:45.18alpha1-2the most stable*
17:45.20blast007hehe
17:45.25JeffMwe don't do snapshots
17:45.41alpha1-2blast007: I use linux almost always
17:45.42JeffMbut alpha1-2 we don't have a QA group, so all the codebases have the same testing
17:45.57JeffMthe 2.4.x branch is for code that is compatable, it's safe to use
17:46.06JeffMwe don't put breaking things in there, what is what 2.5.x is for
17:46.29JeffMso it's better to say you want the code with the "Most bug fixes"
17:46.35JeffMand that is the 2.4.x github code
17:46.44JeffMolder code has more bugs
17:46.44blast007~bzgit
17:46.44infobothmm... bzgit is git clone --branch v2_4_x https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3.git bzflag
17:46.50JeffMor more unfixed bugs
17:47.11alpha1-2should I build from the master branch mainly or from the latest release?
17:47.30blast007try building from the master branch.  I dare ya.  ;)
17:47.31JeffMwe don't have a branched named ether of those names
17:47.47JeffMyeah the master branch does not have any bzflag code in it
17:47.52JeffMyou want that URL infobot spit out
17:48.04alpha1-2what? :P
17:48.10blast007see what infobot said
17:48.25blast007it gives you the *entire* command to get the latest 2.4.x code
17:49.00alpha1-2okay, but I still read "master" in that page (so I know I have to run the command line)
17:49.19blast007that's because you're going to that page instead of RUNNING the command that infobot gave you
17:49.38blast007git clone --branch v2_4_x https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3.git bzflag
17:49.50alpha1-2oh yes... this is for CONSOLE guys only ;) (@JeffM)
17:49.56JeffMthe URL is to the entire repository, the clone command tells it to get a branch form that repository
17:50.10JeffMalpha1-2, no I can paste that into my git client and it will work
17:50.24blast007alpha1-2: I can run that command on my Windows box too
17:50.33alpha1-28and not the first time notthe first project I run the "git -clone" command BTW
17:50.40alpha1-2nor*
17:50.56JeffMit should be quite common these days
17:51.06JeffMour repository is not set up like other projects
17:51.08JeffMfor some reason
17:51.47alpha1-2well, fix the web page then! hehe
17:52.21alpha1-2it is confusing or what? sourceforge linked still? sorry, don't und. well (if want to explain it)
17:52.59JeffMjust use that command
17:53.22alpha1-2okay, okay (*some confused still*) :P
17:53.22JeffMthe git import team did not want us to change the default branch on github
17:53.27JeffMyeah you will be
17:53.30JeffMbecause it is confusing
17:53.42JeffMI argued for it and was shot down
17:53.49JeffMso it's going to be weird
17:54.20alpha1-2okay, and the SF code is still on right? (NP for me, though)
17:54.26JeffMno
17:54.30JeffMthat is a very old copy
17:54.33alpha1-2okay
17:54.34JeffMdo not use sourceforge
17:54.38JeffMsourceforge is evil
17:54.46alpha1-2I like it :P
17:54.48JeffMnobody should use SourceForge for anything
17:54.52JeffMthen you like evil
17:55.24JeffMthey ask open source proejcts to put closed source addware inside installers
17:55.39alpha1-2hehe, it was the first and/or most famous one, and it must be for something, I respect this
17:55.57JeffMit's also a horrible interface
17:56.01JeffMthe bug tracker is useless
17:56.11JeffMthey can't decide on a consistent interface
17:56.39JeffMthe only thing they had/have going for them is distrobution mirrors, but that is less of an issue now
17:56.51alpha1-2after a long time, cause of lack of maintanance according to some of you said time ago (I don't know)
17:58.13alpha1-2well, but thanks again, then, no unstable code let's say on this branch?
17:58.29JeffMwhat does "unstable" mean to you?
17:58.46JeffMwe do not develop software like debian does
17:58.50alpha1-2that is the most safe version to install
17:58.50JeffMso that term has no real meaning
17:58.56JeffMwhat does "safe" mean?
17:59.10alpha1-2less bugs
17:59.46JeffMwe have no count of bugs that have not been found, so that statement does not make sense
17:59.57JeffMagain I think all you can say is "most fixed bugs"
18:00.06alpha1-2it is the best version I can install in all the sense?? :D
18:00.08JeffMand that is the 2.4.x branch
18:00.16JeffM2.4.x as blast showed you
18:00.21JeffMit is the one that has the most fixes
18:00.34JeffMand is still compatable with other 2.4 versions
18:00.45JeffMif there is a change we are not sure about, we put it in 2.5.x
18:00.49JeffMand make it incompatable
18:01.03alpha1-2okay, unedrstood
18:01.08alpha1-2understood
18:07.04alpha1-2and what does the "master" branch mean, then? (if I am allowed to know) I am not a kid, remember...
18:07.15JeffMit is a branch with the name "Master"
18:07.22JeffMit is just a string used as a label
18:08.05alpha1-2just because it needs a "master" name to run?
18:09.15alpha1-2or label
18:09.22JeffMnope
18:09.29JeffMwe could delete the branch if we wanted
18:10.49alpha1-2okay, then, I just can guess it is empty cause it will be used in the future maybe (and it is not allowed nowadays), then not a techy limit
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18:25.29Levellynhi
18:25.53Levellynanybody here?
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18:28.57blast007yes ...
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19:08.57LevellynYo I am back
19:09.08LevellynStill ther blast?
19:09.14blast007yes
19:09.23LevellynWhoohoo :-)
19:09.24blast007need some help with something?
19:09.48LevellynWell still cant play - guess i have to wait
19:10.15blast007caught in the range ban yet, you mean?
19:10.15Levellynyapp
19:11.09Levellynoh btw thanks 4 the link you sent me, did not know where to check 4 the owners of the servers
19:11.15blast007some server owners are more responsive than others
19:11.19blast007sure, no prob
19:11.27Levellyni figured that out
19:11.33blast007:)
19:11.40Levellyn:)
19:11.57Levellynwhere ya from, if i may ask?
19:12.07blast007Earth
19:12.12Levellynlol
19:12.14Levellynme 2
19:12.23blast007we have so much in common!
19:12.37Levellynhaha yap we can talk
19:12.41WarPigMe too, small world.
19:12.57Levellynyo Warpig :)
19:12.58blast007WarPig: most appropriate use of that phrase ever.
19:13.07WarPig:D
19:13.10kierrablast007 imigrated from mars though
19:13.15Levellynhow r ya doin
19:13.16blast007sssh
19:13.33WarPigI do quite well, for an old guy.
19:13.34kierra:x sry.....nvr tell a woman a secret
19:13.42Levellynr u serious kierra?
19:14.00Levellynblast is from mars ?
19:14.12blast007cannot tell if serious question
19:14.18kierrahe hides it well, Levellyn
19:14.57Levellynoh blast sure does ;)
19:15.19Levellyn@Wrpig - I guess I am the oldie here
19:15.44WarPigheh
19:15.56Levellynyap I am
19:15.56WarPigyoungster, I'd guess.
19:16.14Levellynnope - i call my oldest son youngster
19:16.24Levellynand he is 28
19:16.41Levellyn:)
19:17.17WarPigThat'd make you about.... 45?
19:17.33Levellynolder
19:17.39WarPig49?
19:17.45Levellynyap
19:17.53WarPigyounger than me. :P
19:17.54Levellynalmost 50
19:18.13Levellynnaahhh cant be
19:18.36Levellyntjo bin doch nen kind
19:19.00Levellynquestion: is german allowed here?
19:19.15Levellynor only english
19:19.24blast007English preferrably
19:19.30Levellynah ok
19:20.02blast007preferably*
19:20.04Levellyncouse i saw a german flag on top of the page
19:20.17Levellynso ... i just thought
19:20.29blast007that's probably just whatever webpage you are on
19:20.42Levellynwell british english is ok
19:20.48Levellyn;)
19:21.04Levellynstrayer
19:21.07blast007IRC can be accessed with all sorts of different clients, most of which are *not* a website
19:21.18blast007I'm connecting from a linux terminal
19:21.36Levellynah ok
19:22.04Levellynwell I understand not that much about clients linux and so on
19:22.33LevellynI am just a little pixelpusher with my cs6 and cinema4d
19:22.42blast007:)
19:23.14Levellyngimme an artwork and i make it nice :-)
19:23.52blast007http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html
19:24.47Levellynhahaha ty my dear :)
19:25.06Levellynthat clearifys a lot :)
19:25.33Levellynwow I am getting smarter every day thanks to y'all
19:25.38blast007heh
19:26.14Levellyni gtg cya tomorrow - bb all
19:26.23blast007cya
19:27.02I_Died_Onceoh wow
19:50.52kierray'all are all babes
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