| 00:24.04 | allejo | :D |
| 00:52.38 | *** join/#bzflag I_Died_Once (~I_Died_On@69.136.32.149) |
| 03:02.52 | *** join/#bzflag circa7 (~steve@cpe-75-83-222-82.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:06.05 | *** join/#bzflag WarPig (~j-mo@207.235.53.82) |
| 03:25.43 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM (~JeffM@2605:e000:7d02:c700:8df7:3be0:bb89:4b48) |
| 03:34.29 | allejo | am I right in thinking that clip fields in the API are values that can be access from multiple plug-ins? like a bzdb sort of thing but for plug-ins |
| 03:38.24 | JeffM | allejo, yeah thats why they exist |
| 03:38.30 | JeffM | so you can send stuff back and forth |
| 03:39.33 | allejo | cool, was just making sure that I wasn't about to start using them in the wrong way |
| 03:40.29 | allejo | no bool though? i'd assume just store 0 and 1 or "true" and "false" since it's just a string map? |
| 03:40.49 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:41.03 | JeffM | we jus hold data |
| 03:41.15 | JeffM | it's up to you to interpret it |
| 03:41.21 | allejo | fair enough |
| 03:42.00 | allejo | thanks jeff |
| 03:42.06 | JeffM | sure |
| 17:06.28 | *** join/#bzflag infobot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 17:06.28 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || https://www.ohloh.net/p/bzflag || http://wiki.BZFlag.org/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || 2.4.2 Current version http://goo.gl/PI9KFD |
| 17:06.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o infobot] by ChanServ |
| 17:20.55 | *** join/#bzflag khonkhortisan (~Khonkhort@c-71-227-239-229.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:36.52 | khonkhortisan | On X11, bzflag reads keys like asdf and enter by keysym, so they can be moved anywhere on the keyboard by a keyboard layout. It also reads keys like backspace and F12 by keycode, so they're locked in place, regardless of keyboard layout. |
| 17:39.32 | khonkhortisan | This is a problem in cases where: The letter a is moved over backspace, so it has a backspace keycode and letter a keysym, where it might read both, OR backspace is moved over the letter a, so it has a letter a keycode and backspace keysym, where it might read neither. |
| 17:40.05 | JeffM | does it do that using SDL too? |
| 17:41.28 | khonkhortisan | I think it is using SDL. How do I check? |
| 17:41.47 | JeffM | when you did configure it would have said if it was using SDL |
| 17:42.07 | JeffM | when using SDL I don't belive bzflag direclty calls keyboard stuff, we have SDL do that |
| 17:42.15 | JeffM | so any issues would be in SDL |
| 17:42.27 | JeffM | but there is an older native X11 interface in the bzflag code |
| 17:42.36 | JeffM | but that is not supposed to be used when building with SDL |
| 17:42.43 | JeffM | and we want SDL to be our default build |
| 17:43.59 | khonkhortisan | yes, it says SDL. |
| 17:44.09 | JeffM | then yeah that'd be in the library |
| 17:44.17 | JeffM | where did you see the keysym code? |
| 17:45.46 | khonkhortisan | I made a custom keyboard layout that shifts all the keys one to the right. I tested it in xev, which shows the keycodes staying the same and the keysyms moving. When I typed into bzflag, I could tell whether it was responding to the original or moved key. |
| 17:46.08 | JeffM | ahh so you didn't see us call that in bzflag |
| 17:46.13 | JeffM | yeah I'd look into the SDL stuff |
| 17:46.29 | JeffM | we are using an older SDL |
| 17:56.18 | khonkhortisan | yeah, something's wrong. src/platform/SDLDisplay.cxx SDLDisplay::getKey even has it marked as sdlEvent.key.keysym.sym, appearing as if it is keysym, but responding to the original key. |
| 17:59.57 | JeffM | you may want to ask the sdl people about it |
| 18:55.47 | khonkhortisan | How odd. Multiple programs suddenly work better when my current layout is the first in the list, compared to when my current layout isn't first. |
| 18:56.32 | khonkhortisan | Some programs read a secondary keyboard layout, I guess from a base layout, and others from the first one |
| 18:56.58 | khonkhortisan | s/base/on top of/ |
| 18:58.20 | blast007 | so it could even be an issue deeper in the system than SDL |
| 18:59.45 | khonkhortisan | My current guess is that it has to do with how a "partial" keyboard layout is interpreted. |
| 20:35.30 | JeffM | allejo, yeah it can only return an int |
| 20:35.59 | JeffM | what do you want to get back? |
| 20:56.41 | blast007 | bitcoins |
| 20:58.23 | JeffM | bytecoins are 8 times better |
| 20:58.58 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) |
| 20:58.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:24.13 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) |
| 21:24.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:54.36 | khonkhortisan | and longcoins are better yet |