| 00:01.55 | WillsParadise | Anyone see something here that looks a bit funky?: http://s14.postimg.org/5rr1f3ty9/Screen_Shot_2014_06_10_at_8_01_02_PM.png |
| 00:12.45 | delusional | looks like defenseman has flag colors |
| 00:13.02 | delusional | or something similar |
| 00:17.32 | WillsParadise | i was noticing he always had wings when i looked at him |
| 00:19.04 | WillsParadise | hmm funny look what I found |
| 00:19.05 | WillsParadise | http://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17849 |
| 00:19.20 | allejo | blast007, ohhh interesting bug you found |
| 00:43.23 | blast007 | I didn't find it, I just reported it |
| 00:45.07 | allejo | oh |
| 00:48.52 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 00:58.51 | WillsParadise | blast007: Thoughts on that flag history? |
| 00:59.05 | blast007 | someone likes to fly |
| 00:59.20 | WillsParadise | you think that's possible without some kind of mod? |
| 00:59.28 | blast007 | do you have any +f in your config? |
| 00:59.32 | WillsParadise | umm |
| 01:00.06 | WillsParadise | +f WG{4} |
| 01:00.06 | WillsParadise | -f US |
| 01:00.06 | WillsParadise | -f PZ |
| 01:00.08 | WillsParadise | -f MQ |
| 01:00.10 | WillsParadise | -f G |
| 01:00.12 | WillsParadise | -f SR |
| 01:00.49 | blast007 | so there will be 4 wings flags that will always respawn as wings flags. possible to track them respawning. |
| 01:01.25 | WillsParadise | hmm |
| 01:03.14 | khonkhortisan | Is there such a thing as a 'shots are too fast' error? I've already disabled speed checks after I gave myself a 'tank too fast error' |
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| 01:03.46 | blast007 | do you have the burrow speed cranked up? |
| 01:04.22 | khonkhortisan | no, just messing with server variables live |
| 01:04.29 | khonkhortisan | breaking stuff |
| 01:04.44 | blast007 | turning off the speed checks means that a cheater could drive as fast as they want :P |
| 01:04.50 | khonkhortisan | just wondering what happens if a shot actually goes faster than it should |
| 01:11.00 | blast007 | I think shot speed gets calculated on the server |
| 01:11.05 | blast007 | lifetime as well |
| 01:12.14 | khonkhortisan | oh good |
| 01:12.41 | khonkhortisan | speed on server, path on clients. Interesting. |
| 01:17.42 | WillsParadise | # permission tag to use to grant "/nag" command permissions |
| 01:17.42 | WillsParadise | # defaults to "NAG" if not specified. |
| 01:17.42 | WillsParadise | permname = say |
| 01:17.48 | WillsParadise | can someone pleas shed some light on that? |
| 01:17.51 | WillsParadise | not sure i understand |
| 01:18.20 | brad | if you have SAY permission you can use /nag command |
| 01:18.31 | brad | SAY is for /say command :) |
| 01:18.42 | brad | basically sends a SERVER: message to everyone |
| 01:18.44 | WillsParadise | oh dont want that |
| 01:18.52 | WillsParadise | would only want an admin to have access |
| 01:19.09 | khonkhortisan | I've seen a few people use it, without knowing exactly what they were doing |
| 01:19.33 | WillsParadise | the readme is so confusing on this plugin |
| 01:19.41 | WillsParadise | OH |
| 01:19.45 | brad | I think /say command is limited by default |
| 01:19.49 | WillsParadise | so by default the permission is "NAG" |
| 01:19.54 | brad | ahh |
| 01:19.55 | WillsParadise | so I add "NAG" to the group I want to have access |
| 01:20.07 | khonkhortisan | if permname = nag |
| 01:20.09 | WillsParadise | I think is what it's saying |
| 01:25.27 | WillsParadise | woohoo it works |
| 01:31.23 | WillsParadise | There's a plugin that just causes a bot to taunt everyone who joins the server? :P |
| 01:34.23 | khonkhortisan | that's easy to make, it doesn't even take a bot |
| 01:34.53 | khonkhortisan | case BZ_ePlayerJoinEvent: { bz_sendTextMessage( |
| 01:51.20 | WillsParadise | oh |
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| 02:38.40 | JeffM | blast007, is that a client issue or a server issue? |
| 02:58.10 | WillsParadise | does git clone actually install or just download? |
| 03:06.07 | JeffM | it puts a copy of the repository on your machine |
| 03:06.16 | JeffM | you don't "install" source code |
| 03:06.53 | JeffM | you only do it once when you first put a repository on your local computer |
| 03:07.38 | JeffM | you arn't doing a clone for each update right? |
| 03:08.45 | WillsParadise | well i got autoconf installed but automake is being difficult |
| 03:08.56 | WillsParadise | no - im working on putting it on a Mac now |
| 03:08.58 | JeffM | is this a new machine? |
| 03:09.03 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 03:09.05 | JeffM | oh god no no no don't do that |
| 03:09.09 | JeffM | no you will break your computer |
| 03:09.15 | JeffM | a mac is NOT linux |
| 03:09.25 | JeffM | you do not build on a mac like you build on linux |
| 03:09.30 | JeffM | install Xcode |
| 03:09.34 | JeffM | run the xcode project |
| 03:09.35 | JeffM | build |
| 03:09.37 | WillsParadise | i have xcode installed |
| 03:09.42 | JeffM | that's all you need |
| 03:09.43 | WillsParadise | oh.. |
| 03:09.47 | JeffM | do NOT use the command line |
| 03:09.52 | WillsParadise | the readme said to ./autogen.sh |
| 03:09.55 | JeffM | the command line is linux and unix-like systems ONLY |
| 03:09.57 | JeffM | nope |
| 03:10.07 | JeffM | what readme? the mac readm? |
| 03:10.10 | WillsParadise | o compile using the command-line approach, open up Terminal (which is |
| 03:10.10 | WillsParadise | located in your /Applications/Utilities folder) and run the following: |
| 03:10.10 | WillsParadise | ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make |
| 03:10.19 | JeffM | that doesn't work anymore |
| 03:10.23 | WillsParadise | oh..... |
| 03:10.28 | JeffM | if that's in the mac readme it is very very wrong |
| 03:10.34 | WillsParadise | yup |
| 03:10.36 | WillsParadise | Readme.MacOSX |
| 03:10.52 | JeffM | command line builds were broken on OSX with the last OS |
| 03:10.58 | JeffM | just run the xcode proejct |
| 03:11.14 | JeffM | well install the sdl framework then build |
| 03:11.20 | JeffM | why do you want to build? |
| 03:11.25 | JeffM | is your client not working? |
| 03:11.30 | WillsParadise | no just experimenting |
| 03:11.38 | JeffM | it's kinda a pain on the mac |
| 03:11.41 | JeffM | apple keeps breaking stuff |
| 03:11.50 | JeffM | and you are running a beta OS too? |
| 03:12.08 | WillsParadise | yeah - what could possibly go wrong :P |
| 03:12.16 | JeffM | your entire computer could not boot |
| 03:12.18 | JeffM | I am serious |
| 03:12.26 | WillsParadise | thats ok |
| 03:12.38 | WillsParadise | it's just a mac i dabble on |
| 03:12.41 | JeffM | we have not done any work on building in the beta |
| 03:12.50 | JeffM | so we may not be able to help you |
| 03:12.54 | WillsParadise | thats ok |
| 03:12.57 | WillsParadise | ill try it out and see |
| 03:12.59 | JeffM | and even then only a few people here build on mac |
| 03:13.01 | WillsParadise | installing the components now |
| 03:13.10 | JeffM | but I did do it, and it was all via xcode |
| 03:13.19 | JeffM | you need to download the sdl framework |
| 03:13.20 | WillsParadise | yeah i see the xcodeproject now |
| 03:13.26 | WillsParadise | Yeah I see that |
| 03:13.35 | JeffM | apple removed a lot of the command line build stuff |
| 03:13.45 | JeffM | and if you try to install it, it can break your entire system toolchain |
| 03:13.54 | WillsParadise | sdl 1.2 it says |
| 03:13.57 | JeffM | we eventualy abandoned command line builds |
| 03:13.59 | JeffM | yes 1.2 |
| 03:14.05 | JeffM | we have not updated to 2.x yet |
| 03:14.46 | JeffM | apple removed GCC as a compiler, that's the reason people used to be able to build on a mac on the command line |
| 03:14.57 | JeffM | xcode now uses llvm and includes a different set of build tools |
| 03:15.22 | WillsParadise | I take it you don't do any iOS development |
| 03:15.43 | JeffM | we can build on llvm, but the command line build system was built for gcc like toolchains |
| 03:16.00 | JeffM | developing for a single platform is stupid in this day |
| 03:16.15 | JeffM | so no, I don't use objective C and build iOS apps |
| 03:16.23 | JeffM | but I have built things for iOS |
| 03:16.55 | WillsParadise | they have the new programming language now |
| 03:16.55 | JeffM | my bzflag replacement ran fine on iOS :) |
| 03:16.58 | WillsParadise | "Swift" |
| 03:17.06 | JeffM | yeah I don't see the point |
| 03:17.09 | JeffM | var and let |
| 03:17.12 | WillsParadise | dunno |
| 03:17.17 | WillsParadise | i downloaded the manual but haven't looked yet |
| 03:17.31 | WillsParadise | Building... |
| 03:17.38 | JeffM | I understand what they were trying to do, but as always they were changing just to change |
| 03:18.00 | JeffM | all the want is vendor lock-in |
| 03:18.10 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 03:18.32 | WillsParadise | ill stick to my html/css stuff |
| 03:18.42 | WillsParadise | i havent done coding since visual basic in high school |
| 03:18.51 | JeffM | that's just presentation layer :) |
| 03:19.02 | WillsParadise | build failed |
| 03:19.10 | WillsParadise | oh well |
| 03:19.13 | JeffM | what error? |
| 03:19.39 | WillsParadise | umm |
| 03:19.43 | WillsParadise | Ywo |
| 03:19.49 | WillsParadise | Shell Script Invocation Error |
| 03:20.04 | JeffM | what did you clone? |
| 03:20.07 | WillsParadise | Building for Intel with Mac OS X Deployment Target < 1`0.4 is invalud |
| 03:20.21 | WillsParadise | 1.4* |
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| 03:20.46 | WillsParadise | huh? |
| 03:20.49 | JeffM | that error is from the old project |
| 03:20.56 | JeffM | how did you get your source code? |
| 03:21.02 | WillsParadise | bzflag.org |
| 03:21.11 | JeffM | yeah... not super helpfull |
| 03:21.18 | JeffM | what exactly did you download? |
| 03:21.18 | WillsParadise | downloaded the .tar.gz |
| 03:21.25 | JeffM | ok yeah that's old |
| 03:21.32 | JeffM | you want to clone the git repository |
| 03:21.37 | JeffM | from github |
| 03:21.49 | WillsParadise | ~bzfs |
| 03:21.50 | infobot | bzfs is, like, the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://my.bzflag.org/w/Creating_A_Server, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 03:21.51 | JeffM | thats why the readme is wrong |
| 03:21.52 | WillsParadise | err |
| 03:21.55 | JeffM | yeah none of that is right |
| 03:21.55 | WillsParadise | whats the shortcut |
| 03:21.58 | WillsParadise | ~git |
| 03:22.11 | JeffM | it's where you got the code for your server |
| 03:22.23 | WillsParadise | yeah looking for url |
| 03:22.29 | JeffM | github ;) |
| 03:22.34 | JeffM | noodle, use it |
| 03:23.09 | JeffM | you want the v2_4_x branch |
| 03:23.19 | WillsParadise | and then use terminal to git |
| 03:23.30 | JeffM | you can use any git client you want |
| 03:23.35 | JeffM | but yes the terminal will work |
| 03:24.16 | WillsParadise | cloning now |
| 03:24.25 | JeffM | did you get the branch? |
| 03:24.32 | WillsParadise | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3 |
| 03:24.46 | JeffM | yes but that contains ALL branches |
| 03:24.52 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 03:25.02 | WillsParadise | so i want this one |
| 03:25.04 | JeffM | but it's ok |
| 03:25.04 | WillsParadise | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3/tree/v2_4_x |
| 03:25.15 | JeffM | you can clone the entire tree and then switch to the branch |
| 03:25.25 | JeffM | yes that is the specific branch you want |
| 03:26.12 | WillsParadise | that just gave me a svn_to_git folder |
| 03:26.30 | JeffM | yeah you need to change to the branch |
| 03:26.46 | JeffM | IIRC it's git checkout v2_4_x |
| 03:27.11 | JeffM | but I don't use the command line so I am rusty at that stuff |
| 03:27.25 | WillsParadise | me neither :P |
| 03:28.15 | JeffM | the internet says that should work |
| 03:28.33 | WillsParadise | i think i got it |
| 03:28.38 | WillsParadise | just from downloading from github direct |
| 03:28.54 | JeffM | then you can't update it |
| 03:29.09 | WillsParadise | i dont see an xcode project anyways in it |
| 03:29.21 | JeffM | it's in a differnet place |
| 03:29.23 | WillsParadise | oh its in its own folder now |
| 03:29.37 | WillsParadise | im ok if i can't update it just kind of messing around and trying to learn |
| 03:29.43 | JeffM | the old one was just a wraper around the command line |
| 03:29.53 | JeffM | we redid it from scratch |
| 03:30.06 | WillsParadise | ah |
| 03:30.12 | WillsParadise | did blast007 tell you bout the bug we found |
| 03:30.24 | JeffM | I saw the report |
| 03:30.35 | WillsParadise | we noticed it playing around on my server |
| 03:30.44 | JeffM | I get emails about all bug reports |
| 03:31.20 | WillsParadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.35 | WillsParadise | We were trying to figure out why ChatHistory wasn't working and noticed the privmsg perm |
| 03:33.53 | JeffM | the readme in that code should make more sense on modern systems |
| 03:36.12 | WillsParadise | im building now |
| 03:36.23 | WillsParadise | 12 warnings 0 errors! almost done |
| 03:36.29 | JeffM | cool |
| 03:36.38 | JeffM | it should build a .app file somewhere |
| 03:36.57 | WillsParadise | Build Successed! |
| 03:37.09 | WillsParadise | hmm the question is where |
| 03:37.18 | JeffM | that I don't remember |
| 03:38.02 | JeffM | the project settings may say |
| 03:38.18 | JeffM | I have never been able to understand the xcode gui |
| 03:41.34 | WillsParadise | hah wow i would of never found it |
| 03:42.09 | WillsParadise | Macintosh HD ▸ Users ▸ will ▸ Library ▸ Developer ▸ Xcode ▸ DerivedData ▸ BZFlag-fttqktcyisxjclhhmdjajnlwfngg ▸ Build ▸ Products ▸ Debug |
| 03:42.41 | JeffM | heh |
| 03:53.26 | JeffM | well it's good that apple didn't break the build again ;) |
| 03:53.55 | JeffM | that was the goal of redoing the xcode project the proper way, so we could hold onto upgrades longer |
| 04:04.02 | WillsParadise | :) |
| 04:04.06 | WillsParadise | yep it works fine |
| 04:11.20 | allejo | noodles! |
| 04:11.28 | khonkhortisan | How did you make that triangle character? |
| 04:16.41 | WillsParadise | dunno i just copied from path bar |
| 04:16.42 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 04:16.56 | khonkhortisan | I'm adding it to my compose key, it's missing |
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| 13:17.43 | Not-cdc9 | [02bzflag-import-3] 07kongr45gpen pushed 032 commits to 03v2_4_x [+0/-0/±2] 13http://git.io/5Fjb8w |
| 13:17.44 | Not-cdc9 | [02bzflag-import-3] 07kongr45gpen 03a42ba82 - chathistory plugin: Make sure that the commandline string contains something before parsing it |
| 13:17.45 | Not-cdc9 | [02bzflag-import-3] 07kongr45gpen 0376175ec - chathistory plugin: Fix potential segmentation fault when iterating through the user's messages |
| 13:18.24 | alezakos | WillsParadise: This should fix the issues with chathistory |
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| 14:52.57 | WillsParadise | ahh crap i gotta update again? :P |
| 14:59.45 | blast007 | git pull --rebase && ./autogen.sh -v && ./configure && make && make install |
| 14:59.55 | blast007 | (and then restart your bzfs) |
| 15:01.06 | WillsParadise | thanks |
| 15:01.10 | WillsParadise | i gotta write that down |
| 15:01.51 | WillsParadise | so Im reading my serverlogs from last night |
| 15:02.11 | WillsParadise | and someone was in there saying that he kept becoming unkillable until heconnected to server |
| 15:02.19 | blast007 | ideally you'd do a new checkout in your normal user and do everything there as your normal user, and then just change the 'make install' to 'sudo make install', or instead set a prefix that installs into your home directory so you wouldn't need root at all |
| 15:02.28 | blast007 | s/checkout/clone/ |
| 15:02.58 | WillsParadise | apparently he was on latest build and kept happening until he got 2.4.2 |
| 15:05.45 | WillsParadise | wonder if he was just trolling the guy |
| 15:05.50 | blast007 | You mean until he reconnected? |
| 15:05.54 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 15:06.07 | blast007 | *shrug* |
| 15:06.09 | WillsParadise | i see where he told the guy to shoot him and i guess he wasnt dying |
| 15:06.16 | WillsParadise | then reconnecting and he was killable again |
| 15:07.07 | blast007 | could be wackyness with /set stuff |
| 15:08.28 | WillsParadise | hmm |
| 15:08.33 | WillsParadise | let me go test see if chat history works now |
| 15:09.29 | WillsParadise | hmmm |
| 15:12.28 | WillsParadise | woohoo I think it's working |
| 15:13.22 | WillsParadise | it doesn't show who they sent it too but I guess I can check the log for that |
| 15:15.29 | WillsParadise | Thanks for letting me know he updated alezakos |
| 15:17.11 | blast007 | WillsParadise: kongr45gpen == alezakos (yay, more pings!) |
| 15:17.30 | WillsParadise | oh its same person |
| 15:18.10 | WillsParadise | Thanks for quick fix then, alezakos :) |
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