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| 19:30.30 | JeffM | well I just pre-ordered an Oculus Rift DK2, have to see how that goes later this year |
| 19:42.56 | brad | you got one for me too, right?! |
| 19:45.10 | JeffM | sure, assuming you pay may finders fee |
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| 20:10.24 | blast007 | JeffM: as tempted as I've been to just throw money at the screen, I think I will try to hold off for the comsumer version on this one ;) I probably wouldn't do enough with a dev version to justify the cost.. |
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| 20:11.08 | JeffM | yeah I was balanced between that and dev kit |
| 20:11.09 | JeffM | I was not willing to do DevKit1 |
| 20:11.29 | JeffM | but kit 2 seems much more robust and at a decent price point |
| 20:11.29 | JeffM | 350$ |
| 20:11.31 | blast007 | I see this one has a motion tracker as well |
| 20:11.39 | blast007 | and 1080p |
| 20:11.43 | JeffM | yeah, that's what got me over |
| 20:11.43 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:11.54 | JeffM | it's what I think the comercial one will be |
| 20:11.58 | JeffM | or very close to it |
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| 20:12.36 | blast007 | should be pretty amazing as I think the motion tracking has been one of the main downsides I've heard people talking about (as in, the previous ones didn't feel quite right when you moved around) |
| 20:12.50 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:13.03 | JeffM | I was bummed to learn the first one didn't have that |
| 20:13.12 | JeffM | and the fact that it needed an external box |
| 20:14.51 | JeffM | Unity also has support for it so that makes me happy |
| 20:15.20 | blast007 | Unity also announced WebGL support, though I am not sure if that can work with the rift |
| 20:15.34 | JeffM | yeah for Unity 5 |
| 20:17.31 | blast007 | I managed to get BZFlag 2.6 to work with my external dependency pack :) |
| 20:18.31 | blast007 | Not sure how we will handle it for OSX though. Is there some "osx-ish" way to do something similar there? |
| 20:19.31 | blast007 | and Linux/*nix still need a bit of autoconf love to detect when required dependencies are not available and disable building. |
| 20:22.09 | JeffM | yeah I dunno what OSX would do |
| 20:22.19 | JeffM | at least with out the platform chagnes I spoke of |
| 20:22.26 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:22.35 | JeffM | the platform changes for windows, could also be used to do native stuff for OSX |
| 20:22.44 | blast007 | if we made use of more native APIs on OSX, problem solved |
| 20:24.17 | blast007 | The Windows changes aren't as necessary now as I do have our deps working, even with SSL support. Seems libcurl can use the Windows HTTPS API, so no need for OpenSSL (which also needs Perl and NASM to configure/build). |
| 20:24.33 | JeffM | cool |
| 20:24.43 | JeffM | hopefuly that means it'll use the system CA cache too |
| 20:24.43 | blast007 | for 2.6 I want SSL to be required :) |
| 20:24.52 | JeffM | encrypt everything! |
| 20:25.09 | blast007 | well, not all the things, but all the things that send password data, yes. |
| 20:25.22 | JeffM | EVERYTHING! |
| 20:25.26 | blast007 | :P |
| 20:25.27 | JeffM | NSA is watching |
| 20:25.36 | JeffM | crypto the key presses before they hit the game lib |
| 20:25.45 | blast007 | well, if it's the NSA we're worried about, then HTTPS doesn't help ;) |
| 20:26.59 | JeffM | well I'm sure the NSA doesn't care about 40 people playing |
| 20:27.55 | blast007 | they may care about 40 people playing a war training game! |
| 20:28.17 | blast007 | terrorists! gotta catch 'em all! |
| 20:28.33 | JeffM | it would not be a very good war |
| 20:28.47 | JeffM | 3 seconds, everyone has died once, war over |
| 20:39.33 | JeffM | Well BZFlag is now a project on the OculusVR dev site |
| 21:06.17 | blast007 | heh |
| 21:07.30 | blast007 | I imagine it would take a significant amount of work to make BZFlag work with the rift, right? would it need us to be based around a much newer OpenGL? |
| 21:08.05 | JeffM | nope |
| 21:08.18 | JeffM | we already can split the view |
| 21:08.24 | JeffM | it'd just be API hooks for the camera |
| 21:08.31 | JeffM | and choices for what to do in the GUI |
| 21:08.43 | JeffM | like I'd mod the GUI to be locked to the tank |
| 21:08.57 | JeffM | so it's a reference for your view |
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| 22:45.46 | JeffM | blast007, did you see that Unity is working with Mozilla to have an HTML5 export option? |
| 22:46.16 | blast007 | yeah, that's what I had been referring to with the WebGL version |
| 22:46.21 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:46.40 | JeffM | I had just seen the webGL as one of the line items in the press release |
| 22:46.45 | blast007 | asm.js and whatnot |
| 22:46.54 | JeffM | I didn't realize it was the whole shebang |
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