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| 01:19.58 | r55man | Is there anyone here who could help with a bztank.net IP ban?b |
| 01:20.19 | r55man | Or point me in the right direction for who to contact? |
| 01:20.33 | Snake12534 | talk to the server owner |
| 01:21.12 | Snake12534 | contact benfish |
| 01:21.18 | Snake12534 | what specific map did you get banned from? |
| 01:21.41 | r55man | We were on the roundabout, but apparently the ban extends to all of the bztank.net servers. |
| 01:21.57 | Snake12534 | then you're gonna have to talk to benfish |
| 01:22.21 | Snake12534 | who banned you |
| 01:22.25 | r55man | Do you know how I might reach benfish? |
| 01:22.46 | r55man | The server is saying the ban came from 02cool. |
| 01:22.55 | Snake12534 | ok |
| 01:23.01 | Snake12534 | LouMan owns roundabout |
| 01:23.22 | Snake12534 | But since you are ban from all of the maps hosted by Benfish, you should contact him through forums.bzflag.org |
| 01:23.36 | Snake12534 | If you are not registered, sign up for an account through the forums. |
| 01:23.50 | r55man | Is 02cool a person or some sort of automatic bot detector? |
| 01:24.40 | Snake12534 | I have no idea. |
| 01:24.53 | Snake12534 | How many bots did you used at roundabout? |
| 01:25.45 | r55man | None. The server is reporting that we were banned because of "garden snake", who was thought to be a bot. |
| 01:26.15 | Snake12534 | Does "garden snake" share the same IP as you? |
| 01:26.19 | r55man | That's actually my 5 year old daughter. I play with my kids on these world. |
| 01:26.25 | r55man | Yes, she is my daughter. |
| 01:26.39 | Snake12534 | Then she was doing something that she wasn't suppose to be doing on that map. |
| 01:26.42 | r55man | There are 5 of us on the same IP. Me, my two kids, and my two nephews. |
| 01:26.59 | Snake12534 | One of them were probably doing something they weren't suppose to be doing then. |
| 01:27.04 | r55man | It claimed she was a bot, but we've been playing for months and this has never happened before. |
| 01:27.10 | khonkhortisan | Snake12534, I'm surprised you don't constrain to mousebox, based on your video |
| 01:27.24 | Snake12534 | constrain to mousebox, khonkhortisan? |
| 01:27.39 | khonkhortisan | Your mouse was moving all over your screen instead of staying in the orange box while you were driving |
| 01:27.45 | Snake12534 | Had you asked her if she did anything? |
| 01:28.03 | Snake12534 | Yeah, I do that, and been doing that since I started, khonkhortisan. |
| 01:28.13 | Snake12534 | It looks cool :P |
| 01:28.19 | r55man | She's 5 years old. What could she have been doing? She knows how to drive around, get flags, jump, and shoot. That's about it. |
| 01:28.44 | Snake12534 | She might had been moving in a weird pattern. |
| 01:28.47 | khonkhortisan | ctf flag running? |
| 01:28.48 | r55man | I was assuming that she just played so bad that someone or something decided she was a bot. |
| 01:29.07 | khonkhortisan | I remember being bad at bzflag for a long time |
| 01:29.13 | Snake12534 | Bots aren't decided on their poor quality of skill, but on their unusual movements. |
| 01:29.27 | r55man | She knows not to run the flag, and we all call her out on it if she does it by accident. |
| 01:29.27 | Snake12534 | Not me, khonkhortisan |
| 01:29.33 | Snake12534 | I remember you doing well in a flag server |
| 01:29.46 | r55man | Besides, she's run the flag a lot before and never been banned. |
| 01:30.18 | Snake12534 | If the ban reason saids "I thought you were a bot", then it will have nothing to do with flag running. |
| 01:30.29 | r55man | Is there actually autodetection for bots? Or is that a human making the call? |
| 01:30.43 | khonkhortisan | There isn't. |
| 01:30.54 | Snake12534 | I've never heard of an auto bot detecting the bots, but there's a possibility, unlikely though. |
| 01:31.29 | Snake12534 | http://forums.bzflag.org/ucp.php?mode=register&sid=a148c0835f012fedb6de489784a64435 |
| 01:31.49 | Snake12534 | khonkhortisan, how do I constrain to mousebox? |
| 01:32.21 | r55man | Ok, I'm at the bzflag.org forum. Should I look up benfish and PM, or is there another way that is preferred? |
| 01:32.35 | Snake12534 | PM'ing benfish may be the best option. |
| 01:32.42 | khonkhortisan | Options→Input Settings→Confine mouse: MotionBox |
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| 01:32.58 | Snake12534 | Hi JeffM |
| 01:33.04 | khonkhortisan | ditto :P |
| 01:33.12 | Snake12534 | thanks khonkhortisan |
| 01:33.34 | JeffM | hello |
| 01:34.20 | Snake12534 | ach khonkhortisan, it feels weird! |
| 01:34.37 | khonkhortisan | You can switch direction faster if you don't go past max power |
| 01:34.58 | Snake12534 | True too bad I won't be using it |
| 01:40.13 | r55man | I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how to PM benfish. How do you look up a user on forums.bzflag.org? I click "B" on the member index page, but they are not in alphabetical order. Is there an easier way that I'm missing? |
| 01:40.37 | Snake12534 | Home Page |
| 01:41.01 | Snake12534 | Home Page < New Private Message < Compose Message < To: BenFish < Send |
| 01:41.53 | r55man | Thank you. |
| 01:42.12 | JeffM | Snake12534, how would you know, you don't have a fourm account? |
| 01:42.14 | Snake12534 | Anytime :) |
| 01:42.16 | khonkhortisan | I don't see that user in there. |
| 01:42.43 | Snake12534 | JeffM, I had used the forums before. |
| 01:43.39 | JeffM | benfish is a user |
| 01:43.47 | JeffM | http://forums.bzflag.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=23188 |
| 01:45.36 | khonkhortisan | Ah, the search button on the page is much faster than clicking through 77 user pages and using the browser's search button |
| 01:45.47 | JeffM | yeah :) |
| 01:45.58 | JeffM | thats it's there :) |
| 01:46.30 | JeffM | that's why it's there even |
| 01:47.42 | khonkhortisan | It is even odd how even that oddity is even oddly there, even |
| 01:57.17 | r55man | Ok, now I have a new problem. After registering for the forum with the same name I use in the game, I cannot seem to join any world. |
| 01:57.48 | Snake12534 | Did you enter the password for your callsign? |
| 01:57.53 | r55man | It says "This callsign is registered. You must use global authentication." |
| 01:58.03 | r55man | Oh, no, I didn't. |
| 01:58.03 | Snake12534 | You will need to type your password, then. |
| 01:58.08 | r55man | Thank you again. |
| 01:58.09 | khonkhortisan | right. |
| 01:59.09 | r55man | If I knew I was going to have to type in the password to join the game now, I would have picked a simpler password :P |
| 01:59.28 | khonkhortisan | it saves in your conf, you don't have to type it every time |
| 01:59.31 | JeffM | the point of registering on the fourms is to link the names |
| 01:59.42 | khonkhortisan | and to get into leagues |
| 01:59.48 | Snake12534 | yes that ^ |
| 02:00.00 | Snake12534 | probably one of the few reasons to get a callsign in bzflag in fact |
| 02:01.04 | r55man | Ok, I'm back in now, thanks folks. |
| 02:01.13 | Snake12534 | No problem |
| 02:02.27 | Snake12534 | r55man, go to www.guleague.org and register for an account there |
| 02:02.29 | Snake12534 | sorry( |
| 02:02.31 | Snake12534 | sorry. |
| 02:02.42 | Snake12534 | register for spawn privileges I mean. |
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| 17:30.30 | Not-003 | [02GitHub] Design for failure. |
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| 17:36.17 | blast007 | well, let's see if this works.. |
| 17:36.19 | Not-003 | [02bzflag-dependencies] 07blast007 pushed 031 commit to 03master [+3473/-0/±0] 13http://git.io/MSMeiA |
| 17:36.20 | Not-003 | [02bzflag-dependencies] 07blast007 0394158a9 - Initial import of third-party dependencies and custom build script. |
| 17:36.34 | blast007 | yay :) |
| 17:39.19 | blast007 | seems I didn't need OpenSSL after all as libcurl supports using the native Windows SSL |
| 17:40.15 | blast007 | still need a regex lib (either the one we've been bundling, or a replacement) |
| 17:41.16 | JeffM | you'll have an easier time with the one we were building |
| 17:41.25 | JeffM | MSs regex is "different" |
| 17:41.53 | blast007 | I was thinking about the one in libboost as a possible replacement |
| 17:42.18 | JeffM | can it be used with out boost? |
| 17:42.47 | JeffM | boost itself is quite sizeable |
| 17:43.30 | blast007 | dunno |
| 17:43.53 | blast007 | hadn't checked into it any further than seeing what regex libraries where also in Ubuntu |
| 17:45.49 | blast007 | wow.. I guess it is.. 103MB source zip? |
| 17:46.03 | JeffM | there can be multiple variants of regex syntax so be careful |
| 17:46.10 | JeffM | yeah boost is very cool but not small |
| 17:46.19 | JeffM | and building the libs for it is "odd" |
| 17:46.22 | blast007 | yeah, I was hoping to find a common library for all platforms |
| 17:48.16 | blast007 | I was having trouble finding the upstream source that we got our regex library from |
| 17:50.42 | JeffM | so on windows do your instructions have them put the lib files in a specific dir or did you add environment variables to the project files? |
| 17:51.16 | blast007 | I haven't gotten that far yet. Next step will be updating the Windows build system and instructions. |
| 17:51.40 | JeffM | those are your 2 basic options |
| 17:51.55 | JeffM | using a local dir is probaly good enough to start with |
| 17:52.22 | blast007 | I have a fork of the bzflag-import-3 in my own account that has so far removed src/other/ and updated the *nix build system. |
| 17:52.51 | blast007 | still need to remove some BUILD_* cruft here and there |
| 17:53.37 | blast007 | I will probably just start with a 'deps' directory alongside src and include in the BZFlag source where the files get dumped. |
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| 17:55.12 | blast007 | (and I'm betting my build.bat file in bzflag-dependencies doesn't handles spaces in the path right now) |
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