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| 03:47.43 | BulletCatcher | blast007, we'd have to learn how to rewrite Subversion history before we could compare that effort to Git. |
| 03:47.52 | BulletCatcher | http://component-parts.blogspot.com/2013/02/rewriting-history-in-svn-repository.html talks about that, so we wouldn't have to start from scratch. |
| 03:48.25 | BulletCatcher | It looks like it will be messy either way, but a combined approach might get it done. |
| 03:48.34 | blast007 | yeah, that was actually the one I had found that triggered my curosity |
| 03:48.47 | blast007 | curiosity* |
| 03:51.38 | BulletCatcher | My plan for the next import is to start with r1 and go forward, which ought to work well until our branches get complicated. |
| 03:52.14 | BulletCatcher | For that I have an untested idea that involves temporary changes to the .git/config file. |
| 03:54.05 | BulletCatcher | If that technique works then I will just have to build a database that indicates which variant to use for each revision. |
| 04:02.19 | blast007 | okay |
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| 17:35.15 | cz3141 | blast007 you still around? |
| 17:39.01 | cz3141 | disregard. found what i was looking for. |
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| 18:41.18 | blast007 | :) |
| 18:54.07 | cz3141 | got BZWB installed... windows version for now |
| 18:54.34 | cz3141 | variable success opening .bzw files |
| 18:55.12 | cz3141 | on win 7, release 20937 |
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| 18:58.11 | cz3141 | sampling of errors opening files: |
| 18:58.36 | blast007 | yeah, there's no editor that supports every map feature yet |
| 18:59.05 | cz3141 | hm. ok. is there a generation of maps/features that i should stick with when using BZWB? |
| 18:59.58 | blast007 | no idea :P |
| 19:00.20 | cz3141 | heh. cool. don't mean to be tedious, just ignorant mostly. |
| 19:00.23 | blast007 | BZWB was *intended* to be the editor that would do it all, but it was never finished |
| 19:00.41 | blast007 | so it probably has a very mixed level of support... |
| 19:01.38 | cz3141 | i am trying to learn from existing maps out there. licensing issues aside, just trying to learn. |
| 19:02.59 | cz3141 | it seems to be the most complete editor for this task... ? |
| 19:03.14 | cz3141 | have also had variable success importing obj files into blender. |
| 19:03.26 | blast007 | "the task" is too vague ;) |
| 19:03.49 | cz3141 | task = map editing... it = BZWB |
| 19:03.50 | blast007 | Wings3D is a 3D editor that can directly output BZW files |
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| 19:04.05 | blast007 | yeah, but the kind of map is a big factor |
| 19:04.08 | crumb | < titmouse :) |
| 19:04.17 | cz3141 | ah that's one i havent looked at yet. thanks for the reminder |
| 19:04.28 | blast007 | a lot of editors can support the old style 1.7 map format |
| 19:04.30 | cz3141 | fierce little bird |
| 19:04.36 | crumb | so anyone working on a port for bzflag on the gcw zero? |
| 19:05.13 | crumb | http://www.gcw-zero.com/specifications |
| 19:05.14 | blast007 | why would we? |
| 19:05.23 | blast007 | 320x240 screen? pfft |
| 19:05.27 | cz3141 | ok thanks blast. is there a "version" index/key for the unitiated? |
| 19:05.29 | crumb | :/ |
| 19:05.44 | blast007 | cz3141: for what? |
| 19:05.58 | cz3141 | map format... |
| 19:06.02 | blast007 | not really |
| 19:06.33 | cz3141 | thought it might be a spec in the client/server API? |
| 19:06.43 | blast007 | no... |
| 19:06.56 | blast007 | we added new map stuff when making new major releases |
| 19:07.13 | blast007 | *some* stuff could have even been added in minor releases |
| 19:09.01 | cz3141 | ok . thanks again blast |
| 19:09.09 | crumb | so what's the deal with the teleporters on lasermania? |
| 19:09.14 | crumb | i keep getting sealed |
| 19:10.56 | blast007 | crumb: 32-bit linux? |
| 19:11.03 | crumb | yeah |
| 19:11.17 | blast007 | 64-bit linux generally doesn't have that issue |
| 19:11.29 | blast007 | (well, along with a 64-bit build) |
| 19:11.35 | crumb | hmm |
| 19:11.45 | crumb | so why the discrimination |
| 19:11.53 | blast007 | because it's a bug |
| 19:11.59 | crumb | oh |
| 19:12.09 | blast007 | some floating point optimization issue |
| 19:12.12 | crumb | i mean what specifically is causing it |
| 19:12.14 | crumb | ok |
| 19:12.20 | blast007 | probably |
| 19:12.33 | crumb | maybe i'll try to build it with intel ipp |
| 19:13.25 | blast007 | so what's so great about the GCW Zero that would be worth porting the game to it? |
| 19:13.53 | blast007 | GPU seems to have less horsepower than the Raspberry Pi |
| 19:14.07 | crumb | i dunno, i just figured it would be cool to play bzflag on handheld |
| 19:14.18 | crumb | turns out it doesn't support opengl, so nvm about that |
| 19:14.18 | blast007 | you would be surprised then |
| 19:14.33 | blast007 | yeah, would be a LOT of work to port the game to OpenGL ES |
| 19:15.56 | blast007 | pretty much a complete redo of our graphics code, I'd think.. more so because we're using older OpenGL calls, and I think ES 2.0 is more about the shaders |
| 19:18.03 | blast007 | hmm... and some of the specs of that GPU are matching up with pre-GeForce nVidia cards :) |
| 19:19.07 | blast007 | or maybe the GeForce256 |
| 19:19.43 | blast007 | the GC800 is on the low end of their chips: http://www.vivantecorp.com/index.php/en/technology/3d.html |
| 19:22.28 | crumb | oh |
| 19:24.09 | blast007 | hard to actually compare it to a desktop chip, though :) |
| 19:33.37 | crumb | and only 2800mah battery |
| 19:36.22 | crumb | will probably be more fruitful to port it to raspi |
| 19:40.04 | crumb | but raspi uses openmx il |
| 19:50.05 | crumb | so if i were request a group i-flag, i would have to use my player username? |
| 19:50.56 | spldart | Wow! Haven't though of wings3d in a long time |
| 19:51.04 | spldart | Used it for my last two maps. |
| 19:52.52 | BulletCatcher | A good test for the sealed-in-teleporter problem would be to use the clang/llvm compiler on a 32-bit Linux system. |
| 19:53.50 | crumb | hey BulletCatcher :) |
| 19:53.55 | BulletCatcher | Howdy. |
| 19:56.16 | crumb | i miss playing the compound, but l4m3r says he doesn't wanna run it cuz it's not any fun with a few people |
| 19:56.49 | BulletCatcher | Kind of like Lasermania. |
| 19:58.04 | BulletCatcher | The Compound is good with 3 players on each of its 4 teams, but Lasermania needs at least 4 per team to keep the action going. |
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| 20:29.33 | kierra | is titmouse eating crumbs? |
| 20:31.50 | crumb | :/ |
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| 20:42.09 | spldart | :) |
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