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| 02:08.02 | JeffM | ibot BZDevAgreement is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B-kj3BeFhFghYjIQ6dC81tfLf-ldUYQHOhMPv16Ykmw/edit?usp=sharing |
| 02:08.09 | JeffM | bah |
| 02:08.20 | JeffM | infobot BZDevAgreement is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B-kj3BeFhFghYjIQ6dC81tfLf-ldUYQHOhMPv16Ykmw/edit?usp=sharing |
| 02:08.20 | infobot | JeffM: okay |
| 02:08.28 | JeffM | infobot, who's your daddy |
| 02:08.29 | infobot | YOU are, Mr Sexy Pants! |
| 02:08.38 | khonkhortisan | infobot, who's your daddy |
| 02:08.39 | infobot | YOU are, Mr Sexy Pants! |
| 02:08.41 | khonkhortisan | lol |
| 02:08.51 | khonkhortisan | I thought it would say you again |
| 02:09.01 | unclelightning | now someone ask who his mommy is |
| 02:09.04 | JeffM | if you have github acccess, read that and fill out the form it points to please |
| 02:12.43 | khonkhortisan | infobot, who's your mommy |
| 02:13.16 | khonkhortisan | is it different than the svn license? |
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| 02:15.08 | JeffM | yes, it's not a license |
| 02:15.42 | JeffM | it's an agreement that you as a developer understand that you are giving Tim rights to the code, so you can't take it away form us :) |
| 02:16.03 | JeffM | you still own the work, but you grant the project unrevokeable rights to use it. |
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| 02:17.45 | khonkhortisan | ah. |
| 02:18.00 | khonkhortisan | I can only copy it anyway |
| 02:18.03 | JeffM | the main reason for this is in the case where tim wants to transfer copyight to an org we make, or someone else there is nobody who would block it |
| 02:18.17 | khonkhortisan | can't sue it off you |
| 02:18.20 | JeffM | we have something similar in devinfo |
| 02:18.24 | JeffM | yeah or cause us to remove code |
| 02:18.41 | JeffM | this is just a bit more formal and we can make sure each person who commits agrees |
| 02:18.57 | JeffM | projects have run into issues by not having these things |
| 02:19.15 | khonkhortisan | I haven't been around long enough to see these issues |
| 02:20.03 | Snake12534 | JeffM : Is it possible for if a member of the Reptiles organization group approve of two new liscenes. |
| 02:20.14 | JeffM | Snake12534, huh? |
| 02:20.21 | JeffM | license for what? |
| 02:21.08 | Snake12534 | R.O. |
| 02:21.23 | JeffM | I don't know what that is |
| 02:21.27 | Snake12534 | ##RO link is on topic, JeffM |
| 02:21.45 | JeffM | I do not understand what you are asking |
| 02:21.50 | Snake12534 | Reptiles Organization - Maps for GU League Players |
| 02:21.57 | JeffM | ok, what aobut it? |
| 02:22.30 | Snake12534 | Is it okay if I or a member of R.O. approves of two new liscenses. |
| 02:22.54 | JeffM | what do you mean "approves" and where and licenses for what? |
| 02:23.01 | khonkhortisan | Snake are you talking about a license for bzflag or a license for RO? |
| 02:23.09 | JeffM | or a license for a map? |
| 02:23.10 | khonkhortisan | or a map they release? |
| 02:23.13 | JeffM | you are not being clear |
| 02:23.39 | Snake12534 | for RO. |
| 02:23.59 | JeffM | is that a legal entiy or a website? |
| 02:24.09 | khonkhortisan | afaik it's just a group of people |
| 02:24.15 | Snake12534 | Sorry to bother you, I think I understand now, JeffM Thank you. |
| 02:24.18 | JeffM | people don't have licenses |
| 02:24.20 | khonkhortisan | lol |
| 02:24.23 | allejo | wut... |
| 02:24.32 | JeffM | and honestly if you are under 18 you can't agree to any license |
| 02:25.03 | JeffM | the bzflag project dosn't care what you do on your website with your friends |
| 02:25.03 | allejo | you can |
| 02:25.05 | khonkhortisan | weird two people said wut at the same time on two channels, I got them confused |
| 02:25.08 | allejo | you can't legally* |
| 02:25.24 | JeffM | since a license is legality it has no meaning otherwise ;) |
| 02:25.31 | khonkhortisan | illegally does something legal |
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| 02:26.00 | JeffM | well you can say "hey that's a good idea" and agree with the concept of the license, you can enter into any contract the license describes |
| 02:26.43 | khonkhortisan | you can add an honorary signature |
| 02:26.57 | JeffM | not in some cases |
| 02:27.05 | khonkhortisan | hmm |
| 02:27.21 | JeffM | physical defacement of a contract may be a crime :) |
| 02:32.37 | blast007 | JeffM: probably related to me telling them not to post their map on the forums because they were using CC-BY-NC-SA (the NC part being the issue) |
| 02:33.07 | JeffM | yeah I guessed that's what he was asking about, map perms on the forums, but he wasn't able to say it so.... |
| 02:33.44 | blast007 | because he has no idea how any of that works |
| 02:33.50 | JeffM | sure |
| 02:34.00 | allejo | can I haz lisense to approve |
| 02:34.46 | JeffM | yeah most kids don't get that the license is FROM the author, it's not like a drivers license that grants you the right to make a map |
| 02:35.45 | JeffM | if someone sees him and cares enough tell him to just have the author pick one of the licenses we methion in the post |
| 02:35.54 | JeffM | there is no approval |
| 02:36.14 | JeffM | and to stop using IRC on the wii |
| 02:36.16 | blast007 | the fun part is that there's multiple people collaborating on the map, and most of them are minors |
| 02:36.27 | JeffM | then they get parents to do that ;) |
| 02:36.41 | allejo | JeffM, but using the WiiMote to type on IRC is fun! |
| 02:36.54 | JeffM | /kick allejo |
| 02:37.00 | blast007 | I have a Wiimote |
| 02:37.01 | JeffM | and sign the form |
| 02:37.05 | blast007 | but I don't have a Wii |
| 02:37.08 | JeffM | you have github access |
| 02:37.17 | JeffM | I may get a wii u just to play some zelda |
| 02:37.30 | JeffM | assuming steam sumer sale dons't kick my butt |
| 02:38.12 | blast007 | I don't think I'll get any new consoles.. I'll just buy old games for the PS2 and N64 .... and the NES, once I replace the power brick |
| 02:38.16 | JeffM | heh, Rage is down to 5$ |
| 02:48.55 | allejo | JeffM, which form? sorry haven't been read the backlog |
| 02:49.28 | allejo | but i mean c'mon. wouldn't you love to flick your wrist to navigate a keyboard on a screen? |
| 02:49.32 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.30 | allejo | signed it |
| 02:55.08 | JeffM | thanks |
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| 02:55.59 | JeffM | just need joevano, BulletCatcher, and Const and we are good |
| 02:56.15 | JeffM | anyone else can sign it, specialy if you want to submit a patch or anything |
| 02:59.35 | khonkhortisan | JeffM, rocks'n'diamonds has two zeldas |
| 03:00.37 | blast007 | Hey! Hey! Listen! |
| 03:00.47 | blast007 | *bang* |
| 03:00.47 | khonkhortisan | listens |
| 03:10.08 | allejo | with the custom objects in the api, can't you theoretically use that to look for map objects and have a plugin know where objects are? |
| 03:10.44 | JeffM | did we backport the map iteration API? |
| 03:11.14 | JeffM | but yes you could redefine the entire map as custom objects and have a pluing track each instance |
| 03:11.25 | JeffM | but 2.9 had an API to get the collider information for every ojbect on the map |
| 03:11.33 | JeffM | it would not be hard to backport that |
| 03:11.33 | allejo | it wasn't backported afaik |
| 03:11.45 | JeffM | that woud be the proper way to do it |
| 03:11.52 | JeffM | just return a collision object for each thing |
| 03:12.00 | JeffM | then the plugin can just query the map |
| 03:12.09 | JeffM | bz_GetObjectsInRadius |
| 03:12.23 | allejo | oh that would come in handy |
| 03:12.44 | JeffM | the bots will need that so we'll have to do it |
| 03:12.58 | JeffM | and it's pretty easy to query the obstacle manager |
| 03:13.04 | JeffM | the server already has all the info |
| 03:13.27 | allejo | goes to look through the 2.99 code |
| 03:13.43 | allejo | needs a distraction |
| 03:18.08 | khonkhortisan | allejo, telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl |
| 03:18.43 | allejo | what do you think I would watch in high school? |
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| 20:53.14 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, fill out the form for this, :) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B-kj3BeFhFghYjIQ6dC81tfLf-ldUYQHOhMPv16Ykmw/edit?usp=sharing |
| 20:53.18 | JeffM | please |
| 20:53.41 | JeffM | and joevano if you are done being cyberized |
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