| 00:12.20 | joevano | allejo: mercurial is a GSOC participant... you're proposal could be to fix it so it is exactly like git ;-) |
| 00:13.03 | allejo | hehe |
| 00:13.15 | JeffM | did they announce the orgs? |
| 00:13.29 | joevano | yeah at 4 today |
| 00:13.33 | allejo | yea today's the day |
| 00:13.37 | JeffM | anything intersting? |
| 00:13.38 | joevano | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
| 00:13.45 | joevano | same old same old |
| 00:13.54 | JeffM | techincaly I can apply as a student :) |
| 00:15.23 | joevano | twitter is an org? really? |
| 00:15.45 | joevano | that is surprising |
| 00:16.12 | joevano | they are anything but open at this point IMHO |
| 00:17.26 | blast007 | joevano: http://twitter.github.io/ |
| 00:17.34 | JeffM | anyone can be an "org" |
| 00:18.27 | JeffM | meh.. nothing that turns my crank |
| 00:19.02 | joevano | well yes, I guess I meant to say "open-source project" |
| 00:19.11 | tburn | joevano: fix it using bookmarks? |
| 00:19.22 | tburn | those work like refs IIRC |
| 00:20.06 | joevano | tburn: I'm just trying to start a holy war is all |
| 00:20.11 | JeffM | if manaworld or crossfire were there I'd ponder |
| 00:20.17 | tburn | vim is better! |
| 00:20.42 | joevano | well of course, until you discover emacs ;-) |
| 00:21.03 | allejo | lol |
| 00:21.10 | JeffM | then you grow up and use visual studio for when someone wants to pay you to make code ;) |
| 00:21.32 | tburn | http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/vim-koans/ |
| 00:21.55 | tburn | a git one was posted today too... |
| 00:22.26 | tburn | if your'e into this kind of thing |
| 00:22.29 | tburn | http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/04/git-koans/ |
| 00:23.09 | JeffM | Torque should have applied to SOC |
| 00:24.14 | tburn | the git thing reminds me someone here's thoughts on git zealots |
| 00:29.53 | blast007 | JeffM: maybe they did |
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| 00:30.48 | JeffM | who did what? |
| 00:31.02 | blast007 | torque |
| 00:31.25 | JeffM | but may not have got in |
| 00:31.32 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:31.34 | JeffM | they are relativly new at the OSS |
| 00:32.11 | blast007 | 417 orgs applied |
| 00:32.29 | blast007 | 177 were accepted |
| 00:32.53 | JeffM | maybe supertuxkart needs more work..... |
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| 01:00.38 | JeffM | I assume the list of orgs that applied but did not get selected are not shown? |
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| 01:06.24 | Snake12534 | Evening. |
| 01:08.09 | blast007 | ~ugt |
| 01:08.09 | ibot | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 01:08.29 | blast007 | so.. Good morning! |
| 01:09.05 | Snake12534 | Afternoon. |
| 01:09.24 | blast007 | JeffM: I don't think so, though some hints about who would be provided on the rejection feedback IRC session |
| 01:09.26 | AAA_awright | Good afternoon to you too |
| 01:09.39 | blast007 | Merry Christmas! |
| 01:09.58 | JeffM | ahh was it as bad as that one year with all the name calling? |
| 01:10.13 | blast007 | I don't think they've done the session yet |
| 01:10.30 | JeffM | ahh |
| 01:11.16 | Snake12534 | Sir, I believe no place at 12/25 yet :) |
| 01:12.41 | JeffM | ahhh it's also not full yet |
| 01:12.49 | JeffM | only 118 have profiles |
| 01:12.56 | JeffM | yet 177 were accepted |
| 01:12.57 | Snake12534 | I shall continue PHP Syntax videos on www.youtube.com. G' day. |
| 01:13.07 | JeffM | we don't care |
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| 01:18.39 | tburn | any willing testers in the house? I want to see if my score hack works |
| 01:25.10 | Delusional | tburn ok |
| 01:26.19 | khonkhortisan | me |
| 01:43.36 | JeffM | allejo, the proposal is how they pick yuo |
| 01:43.44 | JeffM | that and how well you communicate |
| 01:43.58 | JeffM | talking to the org now and getting tight with them early helps a LOT |
| 01:45.45 | allejo | I will keep that in mind, thank you jeff |
| 01:54.15 | tburn | thanks guys. getting close here :) |
| 01:57.29 | tburn | given a shot ID, can I look up the shot type? |
| 01:58.10 | allejo | shots aren't handled by the server so I don't think you can |
| 01:59.15 | tburn | ack. I've backed myself into a corner here :-| |
| 01:59.46 | JeffM | shot Ids are not unique |
| 01:59.52 | JeffM | they have to go with a player ID |
| 01:59.58 | tburn | my drop spamming prevention code does not look kindly on deaths where the killer had no flag... so... multi kill SW looks like a cheat to me... |
| 01:59.59 | JeffM | you can get the flag type from the player |
| 02:00.13 | tburn | yeah but I take their flag on the 1st die event |
| 02:00.22 | tburn | so they dont have it any more... |
| 02:00.41 | tburn | so it looks like they spammed drop and fired a normal shot |
| 02:00.42 | khonkhortisan | the shot's flag type is needed |
| 02:00.44 | JeffM | then you are outside of the realm of what the software supports :) |
| 02:00.54 | tburn | yes I am thinking you are right |
| 02:01.03 | JeffM | untill shot manager is done |
| 02:01.08 | JeffM | then it will track them seperately |
| 02:01.10 | tburn | but I do have the flag type that they *used to have* |
| 02:01.12 | tburn | and I have the player ID |
| 02:01.17 | JeffM | then store it |
| 02:01.17 | tburn | and the shot ID |
| 02:01.21 | tburn | I do store it |
| 02:01.23 | khonkhortisan | You could store their last flag, ignore any bad shots until they've all exploded, and then continue as normal. |
| 02:02.06 | JeffM | if you know the shot ID fired after they get a flag you can keep a sense of the shot ID |
| 02:02.23 | JeffM | just know that shot IDs expire and are resued |
| 02:02.29 | JeffM | reused |
| 02:02.29 | tburn | oh interesting |
| 02:02.32 | tburn | that would work! |
| 02:02.47 | JeffM | the max Shot ID is = to how many shots the server allows |
| 02:02.58 | tburn | I'm sure that will be fine |
| 02:03.10 | JeffM | so if the server is -ms 2 then all you will see is 2 shot IDs per player |
| 02:03.28 | tburn | its a little more complex in the code, but it might be the only way for now |
| 02:03.32 | JeffM | I am not sure if the shot end messages are sent on simple expire |
| 02:03.37 | JeffM | you may not be notified when they timeout |
| 02:04.01 | tburn | hmm |
| 02:05.35 | tburn | the API docx say that flagKilledWith is "The flag name the owner of the shot had when the shot was fired. " |
| 02:06.15 | tburn | so if I take the flag after the 1st kill, that should still be populated as others die |
| 02:06.43 | JeffM | if they have not picked up another flag in the meantime |
| 02:07.00 | JeffM | flag pickups are TCP, shots are UDP, they could come out of order |
| 02:07.20 | tburn | I give them another flag after .25 seconds |
| 02:07.25 | JeffM | if you are unable to get it working I can probalby get shot manager to at least do shot creation and expire messages |
| 02:07.39 | JeffM | if you don't have to worry about pickups then it may be simpler |
| 02:07.58 | tburn | well, I kind of avoid pickusp |
| 02:08.20 | tburn | I don't have flags available for pickup on the map (the flag remove idea wouild be even better here) |
| 02:09.47 | JeffM | are you trying to make SW only kill one person? |
| 02:10.21 | tburn | no |
| 02:10.25 | JeffM | k |
| 02:10.28 | tburn | what happens is, when SW kills the 1st dude |
| 02:10.42 | tburn | I take the killers flag and "upgrade" them to the next flag in the sequence |
| 02:10.49 | tburn | which happens to be CL, not that it matters |
| 02:11.18 | tburn | oh. |
| 02:11.33 | tburn | I might have an easy fix :) |
| 02:11.51 | tburn | anyway I'm controlling who has what flag and when |
| 02:12.02 | tburn | so, ppl will try to drop the flag and shoot regular bullets at times |
| 02:12.19 | tburn | if someone dies and the killer had no flag, I kick the killer back 3 levels and shame them |
| 02:12.39 | tburn | but I think the error might be in my own internal state and not the bz state itself :-/ |
| 02:12.56 | JeffM | the bzstate is quite minimal |
| 02:13.24 | tburn | the docs are correct to your knowledge in that the flagKilledWith really is the flag the killer was holding when the shot was fired, even for like SW? |
| 02:13.39 | JeffM | it's probalby the flag from the shot |
| 02:13.40 | tburn | even if I yank that flag away after the first death? |
| 02:13.44 | JeffM | the killed message has the shot info |
| 02:13.53 | tburn | it has the shot id but not type |
| 02:13.55 | JeffM | each shot has the flag ID of what fired it |
| 02:14.01 | JeffM | the message does |
| 02:14.06 | JeffM | shot type == flag type ;) |
| 02:14.09 | tburn | I think that means I'm out of the woods here |
| 02:15.30 | JeffM | thinks it's a fine day... for SCIENCE! |
| 02:17.26 | tburn | does a SW last longer that .25s? |
| 02:17.39 | tburn | I think i see it :) |
| 02:17.43 | JeffM | depends on the var settings |
| 02:17.56 | tburn | hmm, I guess I could read those and set my delay accordingly |
| 02:18.05 | allejo | JeffM, Dexter? |
| 02:18.22 | tburn | I was thinkin ATHF "GENTLEMEN... BEHOLD!" |
| 02:18.45 | JeffM | netflix seems to have gotten all the cartoon network stuff |
| 02:20.03 | allejo | i love that. that's going to be my life during spring break |
| 02:23.56 | blast007 | "Nooo Dee Dee.... do not push.. that buttttooonnn!" "You mean THIIIIS buuttooonnn??" *lab explodes* |
| 02:25.06 | tburn | well hellooo consumer yes hellooo conssumer drink BEBOP COLA YAAAA |
| 02:35.39 | tburn | khonk still around? |
| 02:35.45 | tburn | or optic? |
| 03:21.21 | I_Died_Once | i learned today... never remote desktop into the same machine you are working on |
| 03:21.31 | I_Died_Once | equivalent of diving by zero |
| 03:23.37 | khonkhortisan | That's like magnifying your screen magnifier |
| 03:24.17 | khonkhortisan | tburn, I saw someone selfkill with laser and then I saw a regular shot come out of them |
| 03:27.56 | allejo | I_Died_Once, haha nice going |
| 03:34.07 | allejo | putting -1 in -mp is supposed to spawn that team's flag right? |
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| 03:48.51 | Snake12534 | What was the XAMMP download link again? |
| 03:49.27 | allejo | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=XAMPP |
| 03:49.57 | khonkhortisan | I was going to post that exact link, but you beat me to it |
| 03:50.18 | khonkhortisan | But you have an extra P |
| 03:50.24 | Snake12534 | No |
| 03:50.28 | khonkhortisan | oh |
| 03:50.31 | Snake12534 | That isn't the link |
| 03:50.43 | allejo | khonkhortisan, nope, double Ps |
| 03:51.03 | allejo | Snake12534, just click the link... We're not going to feed you everything |
| 03:53.45 | khonkhortisan | Also don't remotely mess with the firewall or ssh |
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| 04:55.30 | Snake12534 | Ok, I succesfully downloaded XAMPP 1.8.1 win32 and Notepad++ |
| 04:58.18 | JeffM | ok, this is your last warning |
| 04:58.26 | JeffM | do you understand? |
| 04:58.47 | spldart | More drama on monday? |
| 04:58.57 | JeffM | not really |
| 04:59.00 | Snake12534 | Sorry, I was suppose to report to blast. |
| 04:59.03 | Snake12534 | Sorry sorry all. |
| 04:59.17 | Snake12534 | I remember now : This IRC channel is for tacos and bzflag projects :) |
| 04:59.20 | Snake12534 | Sorry. |
| 04:59.25 | spldart | really? |
| 04:59.41 | khonkhortisan | Yes, tacos have been proven appropriate for this channel. |
| 04:59.52 | Snake12534 | According to JeffM |
| 04:59.53 | khonkhortisan | I don't remember why, but it's in the logs |
| 05:00.01 | Snake12534 | "Cause everyone can talk about it" |
| 05:00.07 | khonkhortisan | oh yeah |
| 05:01.31 | Constitution | snake... |
| 05:01.40 | spldart | ... |
| 05:01.55 | Snake12534 | Hi consto. |
| 05:01.58 | Snake12534 | Consti* |
| 05:02.04 | Constitution | did nobody show you /msg yet? |
| 05:02.09 | Snake12534 | yes |
| 05:02.10 | khonkhortisan | I did |
| 05:02.12 | Snake12534 | using it now |
| 05:02.30 | Snake12534 | Consti, msg me? Your name is not working. |
| 05:02.43 | Constitution | sigh |
| 05:06.00 | khonkhortisan | don't forget the caps |
| 05:07.31 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.42 | spldart | fail |
| 05:16.22 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.39 | spldart | Ugh... ok |
| 05:16.40 | spldart | fial |
| 05:16.50 | spldart | kill me now |
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| 05:18.30 | spldart | wow... that's better. |
| 05:18.56 | spldart | Been to long... OBVIOUSLY. |
| 05:19.50 | Snake12534 | hehe |
| 05:20.05 | Snake12534 | 11 minuetes xD |
| 05:20.09 | spldart | so.. now that I have embarrassed myself.... please keep this channel on a strict topic and stuff |
| 05:20.40 | Snake12534 | Yes, I understand. |
| 05:20.58 | spldart | I do love this game and want to see nothing more than it to continue it's growth |
| 05:21.02 | spldart | If at all possible |
| 05:23.27 | khonkhortisan | iiiiiittttttsssss |
| 05:26.54 | khonkhortisan | ~khonkhortisan |
| 05:26.54 | ibot | i guess khonkhortisan is a person who wants you to know your it(')s: http://www.its-not-its.info/ |
| 05:26.57 | khonkhortisan | it worked! |
| 05:27.03 | JeffM | you'll live ;) |
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| 05:29.19 | spldart | I'm so overprotective at times :/ |
| 05:29.34 | JeffM | he's no real threat |
| 05:29.39 | JeffM | just super excited |
| 05:29.46 | spldart | ;) KK |
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| 05:34.52 | short_circuit | works on some notes ;) |
| 06:08.07 | allejo | i never knew short_circuit/spldart was an op here |
| 06:08.19 | JeffM | he can be if needed |
| 06:08.29 | JeffM | in an emergency |
| 06:09.42 | allejo | cool |
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| 11:01.58 | Constitution | ~khonkhortisan++ |
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| 18:57.32 | Snake12534 | Morning. |
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| 20:12.23 | joevano | afternoon |
| 20:13.05 | Snake12534 | Noon*:) |
| 20:15.13 | joevano | 4:14PM here... and yes we live everywhere and I actually believe it is 1:14PM where you are at |
| 20:15.27 | alezakos | ~ugt |
| 20:15.27 | ibot | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 20:16.09 | Snake12534 | Good afternoon. |
| 20:16.24 | alezakos | You're supposed to say "Good Morning" |
| 20:16.38 | Snake12534 | Good evening/night for you alezakos :) ugt |
| 20:16.48 | joevano | its better to just refrain from greeting imo... we saw you come in and you want to be here and we didn't kick you out |
| 20:17.05 | joevano | you are welcome :-) |
| 20:18.31 | joevano | if you must greet then "hi" is more appropriate |
| 20:19.09 | joevano | it makes no assumptions and takes none |
| 20:19.53 | Snake12534 | Ok? |
| 20:22.57 | blast007 | chmod -rwx TachyonLizard |
| 20:25.04 | kierra | Is fastlizard ever known as squished lizard |
| 20:25.38 | JeffM | only when traveling near the speed of light |
| 20:27.17 | Snake12534 | mach 23 |
| 20:28.52 | alezakos | blast007's command did work |
| 20:35.04 | khonkhortisan | "hi" assumes you know english |
| 20:35.20 | khonkhortisan | ick, backslash on a unix path |
| 20:56.20 | joevano | khonkhortisan: as does morning... but given the distribution of english speaking movies, "hi" is about as close as we can get to a universal greeting |
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| 22:39.14 | JeffM | hmm, did our google docs from SOC prior to 2009 get deleted? |
| 22:39.39 | Snake12534 | No idea. |
| 22:40.03 | JeffM | it was not directed at you |
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